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Saturday, July 31, 2010

"Every day I get up, somebody's wife, child, husband is not going to come home tonight. There is nothing that I can say or ever do that will ever change that fact. That is my constant reminder. Someone else cannot breathe for you. You can allow someone else to think for you, and when you do these are the consequences. ... [E]verything has to be repaid" -- convicted Beltway sniper Lee Malvo, now 25

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until they were tracked down at a Maryland rest stop.

Accidentally stumbled upon them is more accurate.

Well feeling remorse is all that is required. Release him.
--- The Left ---

Fry the bastard (don't care about any deals, etc.)
-- A leftie

His brainwasher got executed in Virginia recently. This murderer got prison.

#2 | Posted by KBM

What a stupid fuck you are, kbm.

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Yes--Malvo there is stuff to be repaid and you need to pay for the rest of your life behind bars.

I don't even want to know how Shatner got into this.

Can you really be "brainwashed" to do something horrible?

Our military does it with impunity, and they think it's honorable, deserving of our respect.

This Child - Like Billy The Kid - Is Too Young To Be Held Accountable
For His Actions. KBM Happens To Be Correct; Release The Child Now.

Be Well.

>Our military does it with impunity, and they think it's honorable, deserving of our respect.

You most likely never served. The part of the military that decides and the part that acts are completely different. Those who act are clearly not brainwashed but you have neither the perspective nor intelligence to discern the two. They are heroes deserving respect (there's another area we won't have to lump you into). And if it wasn't for them you wouldn't have this forum to bitch about them.

Life's a circle - Enjoy!

They are heroes deserving respect (there's another area we won't have to lump you into). And if it wasn't for them you wouldn't have this forum to bitch about them.
#10 | Posted by happyending

Bullshit! The military is a magnet for psychopaths and fools. Apparently you are unable to distinguish the difference between defense and imperial aggression. Our military is a threat to every freedom loving American, giving the criminal class the means to initiate war and excuses to curtail civil liberties. It's another symptom of national decay, one major crises away from martial law.

Bullshit! The military is a magnet for psychopaths and fools.

You are an idiot.

Again Ray, no perspective. Buy some.

Enjoy!

Individuals must do jail, Corporations don't hafta, or even admit guilt. It's the whole point of that artificial construct, to create an legal umbrella for the rich to shield themselves, while they steal and kill.

What really galls me about the Mohamad-Malvo story is these two were picked up for shooting guns in their backyard in Washington State, long before their rampage. They were identified as illegal Jamaician immigrants and released back into the community. If our Immigration Laws were actually enforced they would have been repatriated to Jamaica. But the only purpose of our Immigration Laws is political grandstanding. Since 1986 there has nevr been any intent to enforce those laws, in fact new laws have been created under false pretences to increase legal immigration for educated foriegners and the limits placed on those H1-B visas are also ignored. More of the same bullshit is pending.

There are always going to be lunatics everywhere. I think all society can do to combat this is treat others as you would want to be treated. Try saying hi and smiling when passing a stranger. Everyone needs to quit being such strangers. The population is getting larger by the second and people are moving further and further away from moral values. I'm not Christian, but I believe in God and am thankful for Christian ideas such as there being only 1 God and eternal life. That thought was a strong thing to hold on to during the dark ages, when ruthless kings and barbarians roamed Europe and is the reason why it has survived all these years. Yes, people did kill in the name of Christ, but they distorted the message. Man is fallible and always will be. I'm also scientific and believe in the big bang theory, which has basically been proven true, but what was here before the big bang. science calls the big bang particle the God particle. I'm just thankful that I now realize that life is a gift. it is amazing I am able to think and ponder my own thoughts. everyone takes this for granted. you can die at any moment, are you ready? are you happy with your life if it were to end right now because it can this very instant. we must live in the moment. the whole human existence, isn't even the size of a quark compared to the time line, size and scope of the universe. The more we learn the more we realize how much we don't know.

You most likely never served. The part of the military that decides and the part that acts are completely different. Those who act are clearly not brainwashed but you have neither the perspective nor intelligence to discern the two. They are heroes deserving respect (there's another area we won't have to lump you into). And if it wasn't for them you wouldn't have this forum to bitch about them.

You're so full of shit even your type stinks... Historically civilians have done more to defend themselves their country and their freedoms and paid far higher prices than the military... (which is why Afghanistan and Iraq is handing the greatest military(s) in the world their asses)

Of course you are too brainwashed to get that... it was civilians that stopped 9/11 from doing any more damage and civilians that did the bulk of the clean up int he aftermath. The military overrates its self... you haven't decisively won a war since WW2 and even then it was after millions of Chinese and Russian peasants that put up the most resistance paving the way.

R.I.T. - you make a heckuva good point, as always.

Can you really be "brainwashed" to do something horrible?

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they are called 'soldiers'.

You are an idiot.
#12 | Posted by butthole_surfer

Yeah sure. That was real convincing.

Again Ray, no perspective. Buy some.
Enjoy!
#13 | Posted by happyending

No perspective? LMAO. Every empire that lived by military aggression, died by military aggression and national bankruptcy. The military is NOT defending our country; they are aggressors in the service of the ruling class. If you fear a Muslim takeover of this country, you are paranoid delusional. The enemy of the people is Washington.

It's painful to watch that murdering little bastard manipulate you feel-sorry-for-the criminal-libs.
When he and the other worthless SOB was shooting people down in cold blood, you whiners were screaming for the cops to "do something"...You wanted the sonsabitches executed for what they were doing. Your outrage was very evident but we can see that no lessons have been learned at all.

There isn't a person on the planet that hasn't been exposed to some "manipulation". He could have said NO --- Just like millions of law abiding citizens have done.

FTA: "He was a kid who was brainwashed. He was a malleable teenager and lacking love in his life," Shatner said.

According to the article it sez Shatner called Malvo "brainwashed" not Malvo.

Maybe missed that part.

Mohammed was put down like the mad dog he was for his instigation and perpetration of those heinous crimes and Malvo, despite being a youth at the time, deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars pondering his many sins.

KBM is reduced to making straw man arguments again on this thread?

How sad is that?

Be Well.

Can you really be "brainwashed" to do something horrible?

Have you ever read ANY of Doc Sarvis's posts?

Ray, its about as convincing as your statements, including:

The military is a magnet for psychopaths and fools.

And this gem:

Our military is a threat to every freedom loving American, giving the criminal class the means to initiate war and excuses to curtail civil liberties.

Were you raped by a military member or something? Why the contempt for the entire military, from lowly enlisted to high up officers?

#22, Strawman arguments are surprisingly effective.

i would say that most people who enter the military in america these days lack historical cognizance.

It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder. ~Albert Einstein

Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor. ~A pirate, from St. Augustine's "City of God"

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny. ~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Were you raped by a military member or something? Why the contempt for the entire military, from lowly enlisted to high up officers?
#24 | Posted by butthole_surfer

Because there is a polar difference between legitimate defense and imperial aggression. The latter is a complete waste of money and lives, and does nothing but make enemies abroad. It's appalling how people like you justify the death and destruction on nations that are no threat to us. That's how psychopaths think.

>You're so full of shit even your type stinks...

And you must be 12.

The history of the military can not be distilled into what is happening
in your small little microcosm of the world as you know it.

The military is what has allowed you to come to the drudge and bitch.

I don't care whether you get that or not.

Enjoy! (your momma's basement)

The military is what has allowed you to come to the drudge and bitch.
#28 | Posted by happyending

All you're doing is repeating the mindless bullshit drummed into your head. If what was true, what foreign nation is or was more of a threat to our liberties than Washington?

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The military is what has allowed you to come to the drudge and bitch.

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this viewpoint is so full of shit that it's embarrassing just to see it.

everything is owed to the populace.

no organization exists without people.

The military is what has allowed you to come to the drudge and bitch.

#28 | Posted by happyending at 2010-07-31 07:57 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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And here I thought it was RCADE. Funny dat be.

The military is what has allowed you to come to the drudge and bitch.
#28 | Posted by happyending

An ominous choice of words: The military allowed ..., as if it is theirs to allow.

Ominous?

You candy asses have no idea of what has happened before you. You think what happens today is the end all? Finger in the fucking damn, ladies. You wouldn't be shit w/out your vilified military.

Now go back to your "tastes great, less filling" arguments. Real men will be paying for you regardless.

as i said end, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

people do stuff.

the military isn't owed diddly shit.

and as for it protecting us, that is revisionist history.

truth is that every war this country has fought since its revolution has been aggression for the benefit of those in power, not defense.

and the revolution was not won by american military force, but by popular uprising and the french.

wars are never for the benefit of people.

never.

You candy asses have no idea of what has happened before you. You think what happens today is the end all? Finger in the fucking damn, ladies. You wouldn't be shit w/out your vilified military.
#33 | Posted by happyending

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the military is or has saved us from. Mexican immigrants looking for jobs? Haitians invading us in boats? Castro? North Korea? The Kaiser? Hitler? Napoleon? Granada? Communism? Saddam Hussein? The Palestinians? What? Until you do, you're paranoid delusional, another brainwashed drone who hasn't lost a limb yet. You can't even beat Afghanistan. And they don't even have a military!

In recent decades the military has almost achieved its wettest dream, the separation of wars from the American population. The fielding of a small volunteer army prevents the riots on campus that helped to end the adventure in Asia long ago. "Embedding" reporters with combat units pretty much prevents coverage that might upset people. The media for whatever reasons are now complicit, declining to air what really happens on the ground. All of this allows ghastly behavior, which is what wars always produce, to go forward with little opposition.

Ah, but leaks, YouTube, holes in the wall of silence – these pose real threats to the flow of contracts.

If you don't think that contracts – money – have a great deal to do with wars, reflect that all those hundreds of billions of dollars end up in pockets, and those pockets do not belong to soldiers. Makers of body armor, boots, ammunition, helicopters, on and on, are rolling in gravy. All this half-watched loot flows in cataracts at the price of at most sixty dead American kids a month (and lots of brain-damaged droolers, but what the hey). A bargain. Afghans don't count.

Note that the Pentagon's orchestrated screaming has not been about technical data that might in fact get GIs killed, but about revelation of the ugly things the US is doing to people. Consider the footage of an American helicopter gunship killing pedestrians in a city street, and apparently having just a swell time doing it. This didn't reveal military secrets. But it showed the gunship crew as the butchers they are. Bad juju for the military. PR is all.

The pattern holds. Remember when the White House furiously suppressed video of torture? The Taliban would have garnered no tactically devastating details. But men screaming, choking, crying, bleeding, begging – even the patriotic might gag.

Why are the fun and games at Guantanamo kept secret? Watching a man die under torture does not make it easier for the Taliban to ambush Marines. In no way would it endanger American forces. But it would endanger the war. The golden goose...

www.lewrockwell.com

regarding the article, the main story is that there's a country somewhere that can produce an audience for William Shatner - THAT is scary! It seems reasonable to expect schizophrenic psycopaths to pop up frequently.

"Speaking on ABC's "Good Morning America" on Thursday, Shatner said he was fascinated by Malvo's turnabout, "the fact that remorse creeps into his life."

"He was a kid who was brainwashed. He was a malleable teenager and lacking love in his life," Shatner said. "John Muhammad supplies the love and influences him to become a killer, and he becomes a cold-blooded killer at the age of 17. Now he's in jail and now he begins the turmoil in his mind."

Puke :-P

That's why we have suicide bombers,Sounds romantic

Wash brain.
Hang up in strong sea breeze to dry.

Every empire that lived by military aggression, died by military aggression and national bankruptcy.
#20 | Posted by Ray at 2010-07-31 01:22 PM | Reply

Tell us the tales and show us the pictures of the pascifist society that still exists...or existed for longer than an Elizabth Taylor marriage.

Tell us the tales and show us the pictures of the pascifist society that still exists...or existed for longer than an Elizabth Taylor marriage.

I don't think there has ever been a pacifist society... there have been plenty that have claimed to be something like that... like the U.S. always calling itself a "peaceful nation"... pummeling and plundering its way around the planet talking up peace ...pffffffttt...

You candy asses have no idea of what has happened before you. You think what happens today is the end all? Finger in the fucking damn, ladies. You wouldn't be shit w/out your vilified military.

Fuck you ... the military is a self perpetuating disease adored by those afraid to face the inevitable.

Tell us the tales and show us the pictures of the pascifist society that still exists...or existed for longer than an Elizabth Taylor marriage.
#40 | Posted by kirk

There is a successful middle option: peace through legitimate defense against aggression. That was the nature of American foreign policy until the Spanish-American War. Not aggression masquerading as defense. Not subjection in the name of peace at any cost.

There is a successful middle option: peace through legitimate defense against aggression. That was the nature of American foreign policy until the Spanish-American War. Not aggression masquerading as defense. Not subjection in the name of peace at any cost.

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tell it to the native americans and black slaves.

tell it to the native americans and black slaves.
#43 | Posted by Shawn

The principle of legitimate defense still applies. Those were cases of insufficient defense, not pacifism.

bah. you are living in a dream world.

all states behave the same when allowed.

any time an organized group gets an advantage it uses it.

morality is nothing more than propaganda.

deal with it.

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