There he goes again...

...fixin to double down on stupid.

If he was going to double down on stupid he'd now declare war on Exxon the way Dubya blamed Iraq for 9-11.

but yet he won't drop his golf, tax payer funded personal concerts, or override the unions and allow international help from non-US made ships to assist in oil cleanup.
his only concern is how this disaster is going to impact him not the environment or energy.
2 months and counting.....words.

Remember how you leftwing dipshits used to say that Bush masterminds 9/11 to justify a war? That would be like insinuating that Barry masterminded this disaster to bring an end to drilling for oil

who's broadcasting his speech tomorrow night, comedy central?

"or override the unions and allow international help from non-US made ships to assist in oil cleanup."

Another lunatic that knows more than Thad Allen.
Amazing how many right wing tools think the disaster should be an opportunity to bust unions. Can't have Americans making decent wages.

Amazing how many right wing tools think the disaster should be an opportunity to bust unions. Can't have Americans making decent wages.

#6 | Posted by danni

Danni would rather the oil spread further than let non-union help in there.

Unions are past their prime, they are of no value anymore. The only positive unions do is for foreign countries to get their people employeed.

Unions are past their prime, they are of no value anymore

Yes, Americans should willingly accept lower pay, poorer working conditions, fewer benefits! YEEEEE HAAAAA!!!

Obama is the United State's 9/11.

BO < BP

Yes, Americans should willingly accept lower pay, poorer working conditions, fewer benefits! YEEEEE HAAAAA!!!

#8 | Posted by truthhurts

Typical Liberal, wants someone else to stand up for them in EVERY fight. If you don't like the working conditions, negotiate yourself or leave for a better place.

IFF you have talent, then others will hire you at your desired wage, if you will stand up for yourself.

If you don't have talent and on top of that will not stand up for yourself, then you deserve what you get.

of course the rightwingers of the DR come here with outrageous exagerations with no real solutions.

bust the unions.
yea that'll clean up the oil

be outraged at yourself and the american public if anything for having a destructive appetite for oil.

"Typical Liberal, wants someone else to stand up for them in EVERY fight. If you don't like the working conditions, negotiate yourself or leave for a better place."

uhmm asshole
thats what unions are.
the people forming a group to have more power to get what they need done.

1 man against the corp is the right wing way?

hahaha

1 man against the corp is the right wing way?

hahaha

#13 | Posted by klifferd

Thats right. Rugged individualism. That is what really pays off.
You think those organizers do it for altruistic reasons? You think the Union is out there for YOUR rights? That is what is funny.

"IFF you have talent, then others will hire you at your desired wage, if you will stand up for yourself."

Stupidity flows like the oil spill and has done just as much damage to America.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-14 10:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Knows all about stupid flow... glorifies it when it comes from her King.

Y'all want a suspension of the Jones Act when the peoople in charge have already said that they would do that if it is going to help anything. I suspect your interest has nothing to do with cleaning up the gulf and much more to do with finding fault with the administration as well as union busting. Hate politics before country is what is smells like from here.

Pay the freakin unions to watch the non union ships, and give them their regular wage for all I care, just clean up the oil so that lots and lots of other people "who's rights the unions are fighting for", yet inhibiting are losing work and income from the local economy.

Get the job done, stop whining, everything that is necessary to do this right and quick.

Danni is the one who want's America to fail now, just so King Oba can have is power trip.

And her precious unions can stay nicely in tact, cause its all about the unions, not the people who are suffering.

Yet in another thread she was talking all about suffering people and helping them as soon as possible rather than squabbling over trite issues like who is responsible etc.

We see the true colors.

"Vote with the party line, or get out of the party"
- Danni.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-14 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Danni, here are the facts:

1. Foreign Country
2. Lots of ships
3. Lots of Equipment
4. Eager to help
5. Dependent on Jones Act temp suspension
6. King Oba vetoed
7. More people lost jobs
8. More environmental damage
9. All because of union complaining
10. Unions inhibit people from fair wages through these actions.
11. Danni wrong.

Is it just me or is it just too much of a stretch to think Obama should be listening now to anyone from the "drill baby drill" crowd???
Hard to really consider anything they say now as anything other than just Obama hate. There is such a thing as credibility and they just don't have any.

"All because of union complaining"

Link please, you made an accusation now back it up.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-14 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

I will get you a link. I just hope that after I do so, you can give me evidence that will show that I can trust you will understand the words written there.

"Danni, maybe you can explain to me how having more skimming ships cannot help?"

As Admiral Thad Allen said yesterday, there are already so many vessels out there it is becoming difficult keeping them from smashing into each other. A bad accident at sea is the last thing we need right now.
Now go and pretend he didn't say that, pretend it isn't a real consideration and continue your partisan hate fest.

Too many chefs ruin the stew. If all these people and ships and countries coming to help are willing to be coordinated by one group, then it will go smoothly. If each country is answering only to themselves, then the chaos that would create would be worse in many ways than the spill itself.

Now I'll wait for your explanation how extra oil skimming ships from abroad will not do anything to advance the cleanup operations

Posted by eks at 2010-06-14 11:14 AM | Reply

Ummmm.... gummit incompetence... they can't keep all those ships from playing bumper cars in the tiny little Gulf. I guess Adm. Allen isn't confident in his ability to coordinate the efforts of 'too' many ships (that is, as Kanrei says, they are willing to be lead).

gummit is always the solution, except when it comes to actually solving a problem.

"So I don't think there is a problem with a few extra oil skimmers from overseas working the deep water."

When you are appointed to Admiral Allen's position then you can put your opinion into action.
What a laughable clown you armchair quarterbacks are. As if you have a clue about anything going on out in the Gulf.

As if you have a clue about anything going on out in the Gulf.

#32 | Posted by danni
Thats it, when you lose the argument, call the other person stupid. It has worked so well for the Dems in the past.

What a laughable clown you armchair quarterbacks are. As if you have a clue about anything going on out in the Gulf.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-14 11:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Kinda like the way the left assailed Bush for the Katrina mess created by the mayor and Gov of the Chocolate City.

You are a two faced idiot.

by the mayor and Gov of the Chocolate City.

Racist idiot?

What a laughable clown you armchair quarterbacks are. As if you have a clue about anything going on out in the Gulf.

in addition to political criticism of GWB's administration (fair enough) I have read plenty of criticism of "military" decisions by the left since I have been here. As if anybody here has 1% of the knowledge of 3-Star Generals.......all either made by or ignored by you Danni.

your faux outrage is noted........

......and ignored.

Racist idiot?

#35 | Posted by kanrei at 2010-06-14 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag

Really, so if I repeat the mayor, I'm a racist?

#32...speaking of 'armchair quarterbacks'...

"I have read plenty of criticism of "military" decisions by the left since I have been here."

No you haven't. I criticized the decision to invade Iraq by Bush, Cheney, Rummy, etc. but not the troops or their leadership.

#34

Bush handled Katrina horribly. Criticism from the right has ranged from "let BP do it, they know what they are doing" to "Obummer [sic] should have gotten involved sooner" after the fact of BP's failure to stop anything. And now we're to give BP a pass on paying for damages related to the cleanup? They're 100% responsible! Or, maybe "the government should have been overseeing oil company operations more closely in the first place"?

"Armchair experts aside, danni, do you honestly believe that one ship every 10 square miles is in danger with running into another one?"

Did it occur to you Admiral that the congestion of vessels is because they are all concentrated on the portions of the Gulf where the oil is???

No you haven't.

I've seen Patraeus and Powell thrown under the bus here before....and specifically for military decisions.

#43 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-14 12:15 PM | Reply | Fl

It has already be established that they are not.

#39

The mayor's comments were dumb. New Orleans is not known as the "Chocolate City." Why you felt the need to call it that at that moment you posted it is beyond me, it sidetracks from the point. As I recall, my conservative friend from LA finally decided "enough" with the Republicans after seeing how Bush dealt with the situation.

As I recall, my conservative friend from LA finally decided "enough" with the Republicans after seeing how Bush dealt with the situation.

so the count went from 1 to 0.

So if BP is like the 9/11 attackers (I have no problem with this comparison), will there be a BP when all is said and done? Will anyone be jailed?

In this case, we have easy access to the guilty parties. BP gave alot of money to Obama's campaign. It will be interesting to see how easy he lets them off.

It was Mayor Nagin, a black man, who coined the term Chocolate City. But yes, I believe he has the potential to be a racist idiot

x

#37 | Posted by eks at 2010-06-14 12:03 PM

Did not know that and I retract my "racist idiot" comment directed at Cowboy. I had a "Hymietown" reaction.

Bush handled Katrina horribly.

#42 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2010-06-14 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Other than the 'brownie quote'.

Examples?

In this case, we have easy access to the guilty parties. BP gave alot of money to Obama's campaign. It will be interesting to see how easy he lets them off.

Actually, the Saudis and Bin Ladens gave lots of money to Bush and we see how that went, so expect Exxon to be taken over in retaliation for this.

MId,
The place I blame Bush for Katrina was that Louisiana declared a state of emergency before the storm hit. Once that was declared, it became a Federal response issue under FEMA. As the person in charge, it becomes his fault just like this is all Obama.

It was Mayor Nagin, a black man, who coined the term Chocolate City. But yes, I believe he has the potential to be a racist idiot
x
#37 | Posted by eks
Did not know that and I retract my "racist idiot" comment directed at Cowboy. I had a "Hymietown" reaction.#50 | Posted by kanrei

Either way, Chocolate City was a quote by Mid and not a racist statement from him and my retraction remains.

" If Bush was president and his admiral said we cannot accept overseas help because there was a danger of ships smashing into each other and someone pointed out the absurdity of that with simple arithmetic, would you be defending his decision as vociferously as you are currently defending Admiral Allen?"

I am not "vociferously" defending Admiral Allen, I am just pointing out that the critics here on DR have zero expertise on cleaning up this oil spill and I have no reason to doubt Admiral Allen's expertise. Furthermore, Admiral Allen was in charge during the Katrina operation and the Coast Guard was the one part of that rescue which everyone, me included, said was done very well.

I am just pointing out that the critics here on DR have zero expertise on cleaning up this oil spill and I have no reason to doubt Admiral Allen's expertise.

What was his experience cleaning oil spills prior to this?

#53 | Posted by kanrei at 2010-06-14 12:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Having a bad day kanrei?

Friday, August 26

GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA [Office of the Governor]

GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26. [DOD]
Saturday, August 27

GOV. HALEY BARBOUR DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN MISSISSIPPI [Office of the Governor]

5AM CDT -- KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE [CNN]

GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: “I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.” [Office of the Governor]

FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]

#59,

You just proved what I said, so no. I said Louisiana declared a state of emergency before the storm hit. Once that was declared, it became a Federal response issue under FEMA.

And you posted where she did and where FEMA took over.

Saturday, Sept. 3

* Blanco refuses to give up control of the state's National Guard troops; 12,000 are now on active duty.

Easy timeline for you:

Aug 26 Blanco asks for help

Aug 29 Katrina hit LA

That is before.

tell us what Bush could have done differently?

#62 | Posted by midtowncowboy at 2010-06-14 12:44 PM |

Goalposts moved. Debate over.

your response does not make sense, so I understand why you think the 'goal post' are moved and debate is over. When you are getting your ass kicked it is easy to 'quit the game and take the ball with you'.

The real issue is that 1) residents of NO were told to leave, by talking heads on TV, but not the mayor. 2) the smart residents left. 3) Gov ask bush for help, which was immediately granted 4) with less than 12 hours before the hurricane makes land, the mayor tells everyone to leave. 5) too late, lets blame bush because all of the roads are flooded.

That is before.

#63 | Posted by kanrei at 2010-06-14 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:
So was this:

FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]

Is that FEMA's fault of Bush's? Like some have said here about Obama stopping the oil at the beaches himself - should Bush have gone down there and evacuated the people on his own, or should he have let the so called government professionals at FEMA handle it after he released them to do the above?

Ask the same about the current situation. Except, the gulf does not have an incompetent mayor and governer hindering the process.

Is that FEMA's fault of Bush's?

E Plus,
As I said before: Once (the state of emergency) was declared, it became a Federal response issue under FEMA. As the person in charge, it becomes his fault just like this is all Obama.

When you are getting your ass kicked it is easy to 'quit the game and take the ball with you'.

I quit nothing Mid and you have only kicked your own ass. You blame the Mayor and Gov, then post where they both asked the feds for help and FEMA took over. You disprove your own thoughts, then move the goalposts to "well what could Bush have done different." You are a joke and you declaring victory is one of the best punchlines ever posted here.

There are a lot of similarities about the Bobblehead/Oboner admins...
just a couple of items on the high side..
A continued time of ignoring the fact that Louisiana could not withstand such a hurricane force and no money allocated in years prior (sure, other admins, but 8 long years of Bobblehead).. "don't talk about it and it will go away"... and, BAM-KATRINA...!!!
then, with Oboner, the MMS (under Oboner) continued to give BP a pass and now wants to cry that they are not responsible... BAM-SCREW THE GULF..!!!
These two characters are so much alike, it is pathetic that we have a certain sector of people that continue to support either...!!!

When Obama starts acting like it's a catastrophe, maybe I'll pay attention too. Until then, why bother? Just a bunch of Floridians who never minded oil on beaches before, as long as it wasn't their own, having their surf messed up for a few months.

No biggie.

Think about it. This oil spill covers about 10,000 square miles. There are about 1,000 vessels involved with it. That is one vesel per every 10 square miles or a box 3.3 miles on each side. And they can't keep from running into each other? That's funny. But, OK. Take 5 of the fishing boats out of the equation and replace them with the European's technologically advanced oil skimmers. Smashing problems solved.

This is one stupid ass comment if ever there was one, and this asshole claims to have a A/B Unlimited Z-card? Apparently this jerk has never steered a rowboat much less a super tanker.

They have to start slowing down 20 miles before they enter a channel.

Now we have an armchair political hack (who replaces toaster cords on a drilling rig) telling an Admiral he is full of shit about how many boats weaving back and forth can fit in a square mile.

Get a fucking clue idiot even if you have to pay for it.

Obama is absolutely right. This disaster will change the world just like 9/11 did. Bureaucracy will grow, regulations will be rewritten, and the taxpayers will once again foot the bill. The only difference is that it wasn't an insider planned diversion and the war we will fight won't be preempted.

FEMA took over

Kanrei, this is the error in your thinking. That is not how it works. Just saying...if your assumption were correct, then the following would not have been discussed.

Saturday, Sept. 3

* Blanco refuses to give up control of the state's National Guard troops; 12,000 are now on active duty.

Blanco refuses to give up control of the state's National Guard troops; 12,000 are now on active duty.

This is the first I heard of that, but not denying it at all. If that is the case, then Blanco had no idea what "help me FEMA" means. We, in Florida, know very well. You step back and ask what can you do to help.

In O'bama's comments just a bit ago, he reminded folks that visiting the gulf states and dropping some dough there is a great way to help!

Kudos for the plug big O!

in reality, there is nothing Bsu could have done to lesson the disaster of Katrina, except for passing specific laws requiring the levi's to be of a certain standard(which i think is already a law).

In the same, Obama could/can do nothing to prevent this type of accident in the gulf, except for harsh penalties, tough inspections, ability to fire lax inspectors...

I really don't blame Obama for any of this, including the unorganized cleanup. He is forced to 'act' like he is doing something, when in reality, there is very little he can do with the exception of prevention.

Mid,

I blame Obama the same way I blame Bush actually- it was on his watch. The fact that Obama is taking to the airwaves tomorrow to address the nation for the first time about this is disgraceful.

#77 | Posted by kanrei at 2010-06-14 02:32 PM | Reply |

Maybe so, but all he can really do is use the 'bully pulpit' to make people impacted feel better and hope to 'push' BP into a solution. Eventhough, I seriously doubt the BP engineers are not going at it balls to the wall.

Every American( and a bunch of illegals) bears the responsibility for this one. We want cheap gas, and now we have paid the price....

Mid,
Exactly IMHO. I think he should have been on every station at the least once it became clear how big this was going to be. He NEEDED to tell the nation what was happening, what he was going to do about it, and what he DEMANDED BP do. It was one of the few things I think Bush did right: he used the Bully Pulpit because he knew the power of public opinion.

see, i'm not a crazy racist. I just play one on the Drudge. Someone has to do it.

=D I retracted the racist thing. I screwed up badly on that one.

In reality, neither Bobblehead or Oboner could do anything personally to relieve the issues of Katrina or BP...ie., to make the clean up and responses rectify the situation instantly..
the real problem is in their actions.. neither of these had any real qualification to leadership and their responsiveness in a 'Presidential leadership' role and the perception that goes with it was too late in both cases to even act as if they were concerned..
and, never believe otherwise, that part of the eye of the issue is their own perception of popularity..!!! where am I going to get the most mileage out of this??? and, the only thing we will hear in speeches is more campaign like rhetoric...he does not realize that whatever he says is too late and non-credible from him..
You can rest assured that, as MID suggested, the engineers and the braintrust of technical issues of BP are giving this everything that they have got..
what this and Katrina illustrates, is that the leadership focus on our nation is not in all of the real critical areas of need that have gigantic influence on our people, resources and economy... it is ALL about what issues will get me the most popularity...
Here are two examples of castastrophes that actually, if we had leadership in the WH, could have been prevented to size of the tragedy had this nation focused on the right things...
Think of the funds that could have been put into Louisiana and into the safety of the environment in drilling, in advance, that would have prevented such the loss that we suffer overall for not doing it..
We elect these lamebrains for all of the wrong reasons and wonder why nothing is really getting done...includes congress and senate..
Neither of these two have any one thing that relates to leadership, yet we are screwed more for 12 years by giving them 'the pass'...!!!!

#82 | Posted by drsoul at 2010-06-14 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

nuff said.

Yet, someone has to help sell advertising on CNN, FNN, etc....hence the daily barrage of BS.

The other night I was watching a segment of the Ken Burns documentary of the Civil War on PBS. I couldn't help but think if the media of those times was like it is today, the outcome of the war would have been different. Lincoln would have been crucified...

HEY BARRY

we see through your bullshit here..
make it out to be like 9/11 and then YOu can be a hero..but its too late for that buddy...

AND last nite on huckabee I got madder and madder..the entire hour was one solution after another..
first guess put substance on oil in water...after secounds he SCOOPEd the hard based material up leaving water so clean they BOTH drank some of it...

and yET...OBAMA and white house will barely even talk to any of them..
some waiting on BP to get permission from the white house..

big govt at its worst...

Ken Burns documentary of the Civil War on PBS

They are offering it on Netflix streaming. How was it?

if your into history, it is amazing. Hard to believe it really happened. The carnage was horrible.

"How was it?"

Nearly as long as the war itself.

Plus, it had Shelby Foote, who sounded a bit like a cross between Kay Bailey Hutchison, Colonel Sanders, Richard Shelby, Bill "Bojangles" Robinson, Jeff Sessions, Uncle Remus, Bobby Byrd, Huddie "Leadbelly" Ledbetter, and Butterfly McQueen.

Is that FEMA's fault of Bush's?

Who was it appointed a guy who's entire career was running horse shows to run FEMA?

The man is an IDIOT... A complete IDIOT... You folks on the left thought Bush was bad..

Obama just went on vacation to where? Oh yea Chicago... Now he is standing on a beach eating shrimp out of a paper cup and encouraging Americans to spend their vacations in the Gulf Coast area...

I don't know who his advisers are on this issue but they all need to be fired because they are all retards.

Every politician has been asking that idiot to come down to the gulf and help out for two months... He flies in does a photo op and leaves... The man is completely useless!

We need a new president...

Hurry up 2012... This guy is a no can do moron!

Now he's coming on TV to tell us that the sea food from the gulf is OK to eat????

The man is a complete FUCKTARD!

God I miss George Bush... At least he knows what the hell an oil rig is..

Probably would have at least flown over the fucking thing... Maybe even landed on the relief rig. Not Obama... He's too busy doing photo ops and eating OLD Frozen Shrimp from before the spill...

The problem with Obama is his advisers think the typical American is so stupid that they can say and do anything...

Pull on some boots bitch and grab a rake... Figures we can't get an honest days work out of that useless fucktard.

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Posted by eks at 2010-06-05 05:35 PM | Reply

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Do you really think we are all that stupid and naive goatman?
You are an insult to human intelligence. Get off my back, you lying piece of shit!

#92 | Posted by BLABBERMOUTH

As I type this there are:

5000 boats
26,000 people working on cleanup and recovery
17,000 National Guard mobilized working on cleanup

The Coast Guard has a huge command center in Houma. They've been burning oil miles offshore and spraying dispersant where they cannot burn. The Air Force is flying spotting missions to find the worst, the Navy has every available skimmer in the Gulf. The Coast Guard has leased every available skimmer in the world.

This from a President you suggest is 'doing nothing'. From Day 1, no one waited at the WH to do BP's job - which they proved unable to do.

"The Coast Guard has leased every available skimmer in the world." - AU

Hardly... we haven't even gotten all the ones available in the US.

If the Obama Administration had started earlier, they would have more.... But only NOW have they started ........

Spill response officials increased skimming and beach cleanup activities in Alabama because emulsified oil came ashore in Orange Beach, Gulf State Park, and Bon Secour. More than 400 skimmers are deployed to remove an oil-water mix from the gulf.

If he was going to double down on stupid he'd now declare war on Exxon the way Dubya blamed Iraq for 9-11.

#2 | Posted by danni

Exactly!

I already know what he is going to do. And it ain't no good for Exxon - or anyone else (not in on the take).

How much can you afford in gas per month? You'd better start saving now.

Or, maybe "the government should have been overseeing oil company operations more closely in the first place"?

#42 | Posted by Scrumplet

The bureaucrats were overseeing operations very, very closely.

How else do you think Obama got the largest single campaign dontation ever given by BP?

They took the money, and then let BP do as they pleased. Even gave them a safety award out of the deal.

No wonder Obama is so embarrassed and initially sought to distance himself from this. He is one of the politicians directly at fault for taking BP's money in return for political favors.

I totally disagree this is like noine wun wun.

The oil spill is orders of magnitutdes worse.

This deep open well will have sea water leak into it at high pressure. the minerals in the sea water combined with the heat will catazlyse the oil to form long, thick sticky chains like tar.
Since all oil is connected underground in deep channels (highly secret information) and all link to south america, the catalysis will chain react.

soon all the oil in the world will harden into tar

all major oil wells will stop producing.
Total famine, destruction and war in europe results.

you had better be able to live without oil because there won't be ANY oil or gas for you.

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Posted by eks at 2010-06-05 05:35 PM | Reply

What the fuck?

Where am I? In a class all my own?

Jesus what an oversight.

Wow, if it si like niner oner oner then we invade a resource rich third world country soon!

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Any who ignore Bible verses - bigots.

eks - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Hey eks, let me quote from a few LOOSERS ok?

you are too funny.

Bible quoters are looser? LOL little one.:

Bible, oldest book in existance.
Archeologists use it for their Bible...
Want to find a city not existing? read the bible, estimate its position go and dig and find it
100% accurate, guess you have to be a looser if you are 100% accurate right?
Who auoted Bible?
Thomas jefferson, George wahington President lincoln, Paul revere all loosers right?

Napoleon, Emperor of the French (1804-1814), 1769-1821
“The gospel is not a book; it is a living being, with an action, a power, which invades every thing that opposes its extension, behold! It is upon this table: This book, surpassing all others. I never omit to read it, and every day with some pleasure.”

Pascal, French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662

“I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

Isaac Newton, English mathematician and scientist, 1642-1727

“We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.”

Voltaire, French infidel, died 1778

- said that within 100 years of his time, Christianity would be swept away from existence and pass into the obscurity of history.

-Yet 50 years after his death, the Geneva Bible Society used his house and printing press to produce stacks of Bibles.

Robert Dick Wilson, fluent in more than 45 languages and dialects

Concluded after a lifetime study of the Old Testament:

“I may add that the result of my 45 years of study of the Bible has led me all the time to a firmer faith that in the Old Testament, we have a true historical account of the history of the Israelite people.”

The Cambridge History of the Bible

“No other book has known anything approaching this constant circulation.”

Pope Pius X, 1903

On p. 763 Revision of the Challoner, Rheims version, edited by R. C. Scholars:

“The more we read the gospel, the stronger our faith becomes.”

St. Jerome, Roman Catholic church father

“Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.”

Sir Ambrose Flemming, British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945

“We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

Jean Jacques Rousseau, French skeptic

“Jewish authors would never have invented either that style nor that morality; and the Gospel has marks of truth so great, so striking, so utterly inimitable, that the invention of it would be more astonishing than the hero.”

a few more loosers for eks

funny man.

Patrick Henry, American Revolutionary leader and orator, 1736-1799

“There is a book worth all other books which were ever printed.”

President Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States

“Of the many influences that have shaped the United States into a distinctive nation and people, none may be said to be more fundamental and enduring than the Bible.”

President George Washington, First President of the United States

“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”

Immanuel Kant, German idealist philosopher, 1724-1804

“I believe that the existence of the Bible is the greatest benefit to the human race. Any attempt to belittle it, I believe, is a crime against humanity.”

Robert E. Lee, Civil War General who fought for the Southern Confederacy:

“In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.”

Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the United States, 1809-1865

“I am busily engaged in the study of the Bible. I believe it is God's word because it finds me where I am.”

“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”

Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, 1856-1924

“When you have read the Bible, you know it is the word of God, because it is the key to your heart, your own happiness, and your own duty.”

Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, 1858-1919

“A thorough understanding of the Bible is better than a college education.”

Citations

- There are 32,000 citations of the N.T. in the writings of the Church fathers written prior to the Council of Nice (A.D. 325).

Daniel Webster, American politician and noted orator, 1782-1852

“I believe that the Bible is to be understood and received in the plain and obvious meaning of its passages; for I cannot persuade myself that a book intended for the instruction and conversion of the whole world should cover its true meaning in any such mystery and doubt that none but critics and philosophers can discover it.”

“Education is useless without the Bible.”

people who quote the Bible are loosers
or
Eks is a Biggot and wrong

answer:

Eks is a bigot.

BEST QUOTE OF THE YEAR ON THIS WEB SITE:

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Pascal, French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662

“I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

Go shame yourself eks.

If its the environments 9/11, it would be like Bush reading to the 1st grade class until graduation.

"As I type this there are:

5000 boats
26,000 people working on cleanup and recovery
17,000 National Guard mobilized working on cleanup"

All that and the slick is still hundreds of miles wide.

He should have let the foreign experts in on day one or at least month one... The man is a horrible crisis manager. Brown Was Better!

:5000 boats
26,000 people working on cleanup and recovery
17,000 National Guard mobilized working on cleanup""

Yes... It's One Big Cluster Fuck

They fired Brown because he took three days to react....

Good Job Brownie!!

Horrible Job Mister President

The South was doomed to failure the day they fired on Fort Sumner.
I had ancestors on both sides of the war.
The North was an industrialized entity, The South an Agrarian Society.
The South had brilliant General's specifically Marse Robert E. Lee and
Stonewall Jackson and Jeb Stuart.
Finally Lincoln got competent Generals like Grant Sherman,Etc.
The North had virtually unlimited resources, The South ran out of their resources.
The South was Doomed from the beginning!

He's doing a great job... I don't see any of the folks you mentioned on this beach.... What's wrong with this picture???

I can see a remake of Forrest Gump. Forrest Jr. takes over the Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. and Captain Dan kicks his ass for tying up and taking BP money.

#94 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Needs to read the Rolling Stone article....

So Obama is going to stop drilling--that's what his speech is going to be too.

And this is not 9/11--3,000 people were killed by islamic jihadists.

I can't stand this guy--he needs to go.

I can't stand this guy--he needs to go.

#117 | Posted by MURPHY at 2010-06-14 10:11 PM |

Nobody can stand you either. You need to go.

Needs to read the Rolling Stone article....

#116 | Posted by MURPHY

I did. I linked it so you could read it.

Remember how you leftwing dipshits used to say that Bush masterminds 9/11 to justify a war? That would be like insinuating that Barry masterminded this disaster to bring an end to drilling for oil

When you can show me the PNAC-like document linked to Obama suggesting we need a "Chernobyl level event" to assert a radically different American energy policy, I'll consider this assertion.

Osama bin Laden was recruited by the CIA when George W. Bush's father was head of CIA.
Find me a similar link between Obama and the Gulf of Mexico blowout.

Find me a similar link between Obama and the Gulf of Mexico blowout.

#121 | Posted by snoofy

Hey, I have my Easy Button right here!

Cap N Trade would be the link (if it indeed exists and I'm NOT saying it does. But if there is a link, that'd be it.)

Is it possible? After the Copenhagen disaster; yes. Absolutely it is. Desperate men do desperate things.

I wonder if Obama were still a candidate for office...

...if he would be critical of the oil spill response?

tonight's speech will give obama a chance to push his tax and tax agenda

How much can you afford in gas per month? You'd better start saving now.

#96 | Posted by BENDOR at 2010-06-14 07:12 PM | Reply | Flag

they dont give a fuck...as long as they can 'feel good'....thats all that matters and 'unintended consequences' is just two long words to the left.

AND dont forget about all of the other stuff

HOW much can you afford when trucking industry comes to a virtual standstill without huge increase in prices....

that one third of oil that comes in from gulf of mexico then has to get from the docks to the refinary and then to stations and that doesnt include all of the other shit we use made from oil

AND there is also the matter of the thousands and thousands of support industries and personnel.......

Sunday, June 13, 2010

Oil Disaster Will Be End of Life As We Know It

This is it. It's over. Get ready for the most insane year of your life. 5 years. 10 years. One day you will look back at your life right now and think about how easy it was, how innocent. We are on the cusp of total collapse, right at the precipice.

If you're like most people you probably have already decided that I am exaggerating without knowing why I am saying this. Well let me make it clear that I also wish I was exaggerating. I don't sell survival equipment or gold. My job is not recession proof. I have a family. I didn't wake up today and randomly decide to declare that this is the end of life as we know it. But I do research. I make calls and tune into radio, scouring the internet for news clips and analysis. I make a concerted effort to only quote trustworthy sources. The information that has emerged over the past few days confirms fears that this is actually an "Armageddon" event. I am being completely serious.

Check it: The oil, spewing out at 20,000 to 70,000 psi, and the sediment within it has eroded the very walls of the well itself in several areas. This means that this is now an uncontainable gusher that is literally spewing oil up from dozens of sites across the gulf floor. The massive oil pocket tapped under immense pressure is now spewing out into the seabed. Capping the well does nothing. The oil pocket is tapped, the pipe is eroded and the oil is now spewing up to the ocean floor with intense pressure. Plumes are being generated everywhere. They cannot stop this. Human technology cannot contain a liquid at that pressure, especially at that depth under the ocean. We simply do not have the technology or know-how to fix this. We don't. The relief wells are essentially useless now because the original well cannot be plugged so oil will always flow out of it regardless of how many other wells they dig. They needed to get into the pipe, fill the old pipe with mud and cement and then divert the oil into the new well. But because the tapped oil pocket is sand blasting itself routes to the surface that grow each day in diameter due to the eroding walls and passageways, there is no "well" to fill. That is because whats left of the well is already dissolving. And each day that passes until they drill their so-called "relief wells" will only see the oil finding new routes through the escapes it has carved through erosion of the pipes and rock. Thad Allen, the head of the US Coast Guard, has said that the oil isn't all flowing up the pipe anymore but is now "in communication" with the seabed and the surrounding soft rock formation. It is now blasting its own wells.

Ya, that's bad, but that isn't even the scary part. Hydrogen Sulfide, Benzene, Methylene Chloride, and other toxic gases are also spewing out along with the oil. In concentrations hundreds and thousands of times greater than what is considered safe for humans. Lethal levels. When the hurricanes come they will absorb this toxic seawater and drop it as rain. Literally toxic rain. Let me guess, toxic rain doesn't scare you. The biggest threat is already actualized with the chemicals entering the atmosphere and being carried around by the wind.

“The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher,” the Institute for Southern Studies blog reported on May 10.
...

...

Any one of these chemicals in these concentrations would be lethal. Mixed together it's truly unthinkable.

The fragile US economy, in the midst of a feeble attempt at a jobless recovery, overstretched by war and out of control spending is not equipped to handle a disaster of this magnitude. No country in the world could. Remember how well they handled the Katrina thing? This makes Katrina look like a grade school fire drill. Well I wonder how well they will do this time as they prepare to evacuate entire cities and states. See this and this. Once the evacuations begin the markets will tank. Once people are forced to grasp what is happening around them the global economy will come to a screeching halt as it's engine, the USA, sinks into the throes of the worst environmental disaster in the history of the world. This will cause a dollar confidence crisis. Enraged citizens will riot and loot with no hope of a decent life ahead of them. Martial law will be declared.

They have no way to stop this, only a theory that maybe a nuke would implode the oil pocket. Ya, we're talking about nuking the earths crust under the ocean. Eventually the oil will make it's way around the world as the entire oil deposit is unleashed into the ocean.

Are you buying the crap coming from BP? The bogus press releases and the downplayed assessments? They've been lying through their teeth, censoring the media and destroying evidence. If you trust them, you have some problems.

Source:

" Institute for Southern Studies "

They're just environmental whackos trolling for grant money.
~afkabendoversnappy

hurry and get back to work........need the space for real posts.

" Major oil firms drilling off the US coastline are as unprepared as BP for a large-scale spill, the head of a Congressional panel has said.

Edward Markey told the House energy and commerce sub-committee Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell all have identical response plans to BP.

BP's US chief Lamar McKay is one of five oil bosses giving evidence amid accusations BP took shortcuts. "

Yeah and it was like waterloo, or pearl harbor, or WWII, or Lincoln assasination.

Obama would like it to be a defining moment like 911 was for GW. Problem is, it's defining him as a dufus!

There are 2 alternatives.

1. He can fix the problem. Or

2. He can not fix the problem.

keeping his "boot on their throat" won't fix the problem. Nor will sending in eric holder or janet napalitino. Love the video where he claims he's "been in charge since day one" on jon stewart!

SOLUTION FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!1

Announce an oil spill Czar!

INCREASE TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's so easy to be a TAX and SPEND demoRAT, isn't it?

watching this idiot reading from his teleprompter, looking left, looking right, looking left, looking right, nose stuck up in the air, pointing his bony blaming finger at everyone but himself rest assured its his defining moment at his own personal Waterloo. OILpaLOSER

"President Obama said in an interview that the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico will have the same impact on the US psyche as 9/11."

That just may be the most idiotic and bizarre statement barry has made yet......

Barry's losing it.....no small wonder he's dropping like a rock in the polls

I did not watch until that last 1:30 I finally tuned in, all of which was 90 seconds of a bunch of bullshit about God. I wish we could elect an atheist for president, somebody who will really deal with the reality as it happens instead of hoping for a bunch of spiritual crap. I'm sorry, I was a supporter of Obama, and still am because he is a Democrat, but I'm not happy.

Who's that? Your daddy?

I gotta come back for this one.-)