"See! I told you Obama was a Socialist!"

Wave good bye to an industry the US could have cornered. So much for American ingenuity.

Drill baby drill.

Drill baby drill.
#3 | Posted by danni

You're just so sexy when you talk conservative.

Drill baby drill.
#3 | Posted by danni

You're just so sexy when you talk conservative.
~pan

uhhhhhh...
hmmmmm...

Wave good bye to an industry the US could have cornered. So much for American ingenuity.
#2 | Posted by taxman at 2010-06-09 05:08 PM

It's a LIE - CAN'T BE DONE! Well, okay, they absolutely have a need for efficiency and lo - the Chinese have adapted. Perhaps we could all stand to be a little more Chinese in some regard.

Drill baby drill.
#3 | Posted by danni at 2010-06-09 05:44 PM

That is the current trend - they are aware that time is limited.

Great! Let's all go buy Chinese windmills and start producing electricity at fossil-fuel prices!

Boy, those people in Cape Cod sure are stupid for NOT buying Chinese!

Leave it to the residents of Taxachusettes to overpay for wind energy....

Wanna talk looney?

Obama wants BP to pay for everyone's salary who is affected by Obama's closing of offshore drilling.

I can see them paying direct damages, but PLEASE what an asshole obama is being.

Guess you heard that 'the commission' which he said recommended a 6 moth closure....those 7 commissioners said Obama is lying and mis-representing them!!!!

and china will built one goal fired plant a month for the next 10 years and has 16 out of 20 the worst polluted cities in the world.

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#10 | Posted by eks at 2010-06-10 06:12 PM

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#10 | Posted by eks at 2010-06-10 06:12 PM

y

Posted by grumpy_too at 2010-06-10 10:02 PM | Reply

z

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#13 | Posted by SHEEPLESHEPERD at 2010-06-10 10:05 PM | Reply

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#13 | Posted by SHEP at 2010-06-10 10:05 PM

You dummy, you didn't get it, did ya?

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#14 | Posted by analingus at 2010-06-10 11:34 PM

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Look
Alternates may be cheap but even china knows theyll never even come close to replacing oil that is why they didnt sign any copenhagen treaty

that doesnt mean they can use a small bit of alternates, it just will never replace oil that is all

It is like a little boy and his lemonade stand.
He can compeate with McDonalds and it tastes better, but just telling him "Son, you know what you are doing, you supply the USA with lemonade" is silly

the kid cannot make enough lemonade for the USA no matter how much he wants to.

if we spent 5 TRILLION a year on windmills it woud take 86 YEARS to replace HALF of our energy needs

it just will never happen

it is like telling the passengers on the titanic to start bailing with dixie cups because a LONG JOURNEY starts with the FIRST SMALL STEPS

its stupid.

it will not save us nor make a difference in the end so dont waste your time when you should be downsizing and getting ready to live off the grid next year.

WE CANNOT REPLACE OUR OIL NEEDS BY NEXT YEAR WITH ALTERNATES SO DONT EVEN TRY get your house in order, better use of your time and money...

#17 | Posted by richardrhine at 2010-06-11 05:16 AM | Reply | Flag

This kind of thinking is exactly why we are going to fail as a nation.

The 2-3% profits China is realizing has made them the worlds bankers, yet that much money will never pay for the cleanup.

Meanwhile, US Corporations that moved factories in exchange for cheap Chinese labor are raking in 30%+ profits while creating a domestic unemployemnt problem. They also required China, whom the US now blames, to peg the yaun to the dollar as a condition to moving their plants.

The agenda of US Global Corporations is contrary to the best interests of the US economy and its people.

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.

Conservatives will be bitching about this for a while, but when the final ramifications of the Great Gulf Oil Spill are finally tallied truthfully, they will all be jumping on the alternative bandwagon and chastising the environmentalists for not being as smart as them and investing sooner. Just you wait and see.

What the article doesn't mention is government subsidies that alternative energy gets. What the article ALSO doesn't mention is that these alternative energies don't provide enough juice to even remotely meet the power demands of a country like China. Nor does it mention that most wind farms only provide about 6% of the power drawn by the area they feed and that they HAVE to be backed up by a coal-based grid.

Green energy is a scam.

The only existing alternative to coal that makes sense is nuclear. The rest is a bunch of feel-good nonsense.

R&D - renewables need a Manhattan Project breakthrough - and we certainly aren't encouraging R&D if we are propping up existing technologies.

Now all they have to do is figure out how to store the wind.

Or how about a solar powered airplane?

"Or how about a solar powered airplane?"

Posted by FreddyK at 2010-06-11 02:36 PM | Reply

The only existing alternative to coal that makes sense is nuclear. The rest is a bunch of feel-good nonsense.

R&D - renewables need a Manhattan Project breakthrough - and we certainly aren't encouraging R&D if we are propping up existing technologies.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ

Damn something we agree on now we just got to convince everyone that nuclear is safe as many still pass around pictures of previous nuclear fall outs.

"Do try and keep up."

#24 | Posted by Zatoichi

Yes I have seen those. Please try to book one of those on your next transatlantic flight. The first one didn't even make it higher than a moderate wave.

#26 | Posted by FreddyK at 2010-06-11 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: said that to the Wright brothers, too

The sailplane has already crossed the continent.

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Samsø: Denmark's Renewable Energy Island

February 19, 2006

By Paul Gipe

Samsø is a 112 square kilometers island off the east coast of Denmark's Jutland peninsula. Home to 4,300 residents, the island is unique in the annals of renewable energy because it was the first to declare its intent to rely on renewable energy for 100% of the island's needs.

The island's proposal won a Danish government competition for communities that wanted to prove that they could live entirely off renewable energy. Within ten years, they've done so.

We were fortunate to hear Søren Hermansen describe the success of the program in the fall of 2005 at a one-day workshop on community renewable power development sponsored by David Toke of the University of Birmingham.

The personable and entertaining Hermansen explained how, without any direct subsidy from the Danish government, the islanders built a 50 million Euro energy system. 80% the capital was raised from local investors, relying only on Danish laws and regulations.

#26 | Posted by FreddyK at 2010-06-11 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: moved goalposts

"#26 | Posted by FreddyK at 2010-06-11 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: moved goalposts"

#28 | Posted by Zatoichi

Sorry, I didn't realize that with some people you have to state the goal is to do it and live to tell about also.

It was and old joke. You see a solar airplane is not very feasible because if a cloud comes over you then you will crash and die. Get it? A joke!

We just don't have the balls to invest in our future. We are going to let China lead the way, while we piss and moan if our gas costs more than $3/gal.

We just don't have the balls to invest in our future.

If you think wind turbines and ethanol are the future, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Wave good bye to an industry the US could have cornered. So much for American ingenuity.

#2 | Posted by taxman

What?

China already gets all of our technology.

We are working on it. They are working on it. We'll come up with something together.

The day you are talking about is over.

#33 | Posted by eks

Wind turbines provide a modicum of energy AND the grid has to be kept up-and-running at all times - wind turbine's reduction of coal usage is so minimal it is almost nonexistent.

This isn't an easy problem. Many things will be part of the eventual solution. Unfortunately, we will be buying the solution for the most part just like we buy our oil today, because we haven't made development of the new technologies a national goal. Way to go repubs.

You miss the point, X. Why can't we have a little bipartisanship? Do the repubs REALLY think we don't need to do anything, or is it just politics. The repubs just want to obstruct and they are very good at it. I wonder how they will explain it to their grandchildren when what we 'should of done' becomes painfully obvious even through their thick skulls.