"It's the government's fault!"

-BP, Massey, the usual DR suspects.

"Shit happens."
~Goatman

"It was an honest mistake! Stop being so be mean to big foreign corporations"

- rand paul

...failures of underwater blowout preventers designed to stop oil spills...are not unprecedented, as claimed by BP CEO Tony Hayward.

Hm, yeah, I'll bet BOP failures are "not unprecedented" Tony 'ol boy. As top banana for BP, you ought to know.

Yep and my idea for a failsafe cut off shows I don't have a clue yet the people that do manage to make "failsafe's" that fail.

The fact is that a BOP as currently designed is a mechanical device and prone to failure. My design uses magnatisim which will never fail. Sure the design is based on household valves doesn't mean it can't scale up to oil rigs. Yes it would be much more expensive than current designs but there is no way it would allow a leak like this. The only down side is if there was a failure it would cut the flow even if there was no emergency. So umm yeah I can see oil companies not liking that idea.

While BP must assume the liability for the damage that this massive spill will cause, the government must also assume responsibility for its lack of oversight and allowing what should have been a routine accident to reach catastrophic proportions.

Now be honest. If Bush was still in charge, every Dem here would be all over his ass for the
government's inadequate response. I would too. But why is nobody all over Obama's ass for his weak and failed response? It's been a frickin' month, already!

Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn? Imagine if there was no FAA and commercial airlines were a free-for-all. The government failed spectacularly here, but this is Obama's watch. He paid enough attention to give BP awards, so there's no excuse for his lack of preparedness or his spectacularly ineffective and inadequate action for weeks now.

the government must also assume responsibility for its lack of oversight

True, "but nobodies watching" is hardly an excuse.

#6 | Posted by Dinsey at 2010-05-21 09:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was going to write in Paris Hilton until the morons came up with "bomb bomb Iran" Methuselah and "Bible Spice."

The fatal social bifurcation was the 1973 oil embargo.

I imagine many PhDs in Social Psychology have been awarded since. And for naught.

Too bad the vast majority of the population of the United States is too stupid to get it.

While BP must assume the liability for the damage that this massive spill will cause, the government must also assume responsibility for its lack of oversight and allowing what should have been a routine accident to reach catastrophic proportions.

Can you name one thing the present administration could have done that they did not do that would have changed the course of this disaster?

"Can you name one thing the present administration could have done that they did not do that would have changed the course of this disaster?"

You'll only get the usual rightwing answer to that question RINGMASTER.

They seem to believe that President Obama is clairvoyant and if he didn't take preemptive action it was, no doubt, a first step designed to destroy the entire oil industry and thus, bring America to it's economic knees.

He's a *gasp* communist . . . or haven't you heard.

As far as everything I've read and heard, President Obama has been on top of this disaster from day one and ordered "all hands on deck" to get a handle on the situation. If any due diligence was missing, it was on the part of BP . . . not President Obama.

Even without MMS's lackadaisical oversight, it was BP who decided to roll the dice . . . not the president.

But you'll never convince the racists on this site who would argue you into the ground over whatever minutia crosses their radar.

The usual Bush groupies will be along later tonight to lead the parade.

"Can you name one thing the present administration could have done that they did not do that would have changed the course of this disaster?"

*** YES! They could have ordered that BP bring in Oil Super Tankers (as was done in a massive Saudi Arabia leak) and siphon the leaking oil into these Super Tankers rather than let it drift like an Apocalypse all over the Gulf of Mexico and now into the Atlantic Ocean!
In fact the Obama Govt could have pulled out all the stops and coordinated a large,multi-disiplined task force to stop this "Oil Volcano" and contain it - they could have brought in experts from all over the world - But neither Obama nor the US Congress did anything except leave it up to the Criminals who caused this Catastrophe in the first place namely BP Oil!!! As it is the Obama Govt and US Congress are Equally as "Criminally Complicit" as BP Oil in this easily,preventable Diaster!!!

Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn? Imagine if there was no FAA and commercial airlines were a free-for-all.

ayn paul is dinsey????

anticadillac, what you are saying is absolutely preposterous. First of all, from the very beginning, BP had the remote vehicles already on sight too asses the damage, which they did, and they proceeded to lie their ass off just like that cheap shot goatman did. BP insisted first there was no leak, then for a week it was only a 1000 barrels a day, then, they swore on a stack of bibles that it was only 5,000 barrels a day. Every single day after they insisted a solution was just around the corner. They prevented outside assessment saying it was too dangerous or they had too many vehicles involved already. The blocked the press from taking pictures or obtaining video of the leaks. It wasn't until just a couple of days ago that the videos were released and they admitted they were lying all along and the spill was much worse.

My God, where the hell have you been for the past month? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The only people on the planet with the expertise to do anything at all are already on the scene.

What the hell is a bunch of Navy divers supposed to do? This problem is in 5,000 ft. of water. The only people on the planet with the equipment to do what you suggested are already their. Get your head out of your ass and put the blame where the blame is due.

Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn?

Bad analogy,Sky scrapers?How high do these ladders go?

Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn?

Actually it a pretty damn funny analogy. Fight a fire on the top floor of the Sears tower with a ladder truck would be just about the same as the military trying to plug this leak with a herd of Navy Seals and a beach ball.

Sorry,Ringmaster,I didn't realize you were rebutting the king of what the fuck,Anticrown Victoria.Even though I do love his posts

Excellent dialogue!
These righties including my next door neighbor are still chafed that a black man got elected in this
Honkey dominated supposedly Christian nation!
Power to the People!

I never knew that there were so many engineers on the DR. I used to think that they were just a bunch of whiney libs.

This is the worst fucking spill ever.

The lives of everyone living near Prince William Sound were ruined. Roberts and his four partners in Corporate crime don't give a shit.

Washington doesn't give much of a shit about Louisianna or Haiti either, including New Orleans the birthplace of Cajun cooking and American Jazz.

But what we're facing is the destruction of the Carribbean, including the Florida Keys and possibly the East Coast. At some point the public must react, like when it spoils the quality of 30 million people lives.

That's where this is heading. Forget BP's bullshit number. 70,000 barrels a day and nothings been done.

Can you name one thing the present administration could have done that they did not do that would have changed the course of this disaster?

#9 | Posted by RingMaster

Are you refering to Katrina or the 1 month and counting fucking oil spill?

Are you refering to Katrina or the 1 month and counting fucking oil spill?

#20 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2010-05-22 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag: I got nuttin'

I never knew that there were so many engineers on the DR. I used to think...

Stop right there. It explains everything you believe in. No need to embellish it with sour grape retorts.

Tonto...go back and start from the beginning. No, not when the Indians, Mexicans and Judge Roy Bean ran Texas, the beginning of the thread.