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A vote FOR health care reform is a vote FOR humanity.
A vote AGAINST health care reform is a vote FOR racism.

The choices are clear: Republicans ARE racist.

Be Well.

Skipped_Getting_A_Brain, that is the most stupid comment I have read in a long time here. You should be honored.

Mitch, I agree that Skipper misses the mark, but reread some of your own posts, or most any of AFLAK's and get back to us...mmmm...ok?

In 2006, the U.S. census reported that 46 million Americans (recently revised downward
to 45 million) have no health insurance.

How true is this statement and what are the real figures?

I don't have insurance. I'm 28 years old. Why do I need insurance?

You need insurace because you are healthy. It is the sick people they don't want.

"Why do I need insurance....?"

I have to agree with MITCH. Some rich son-of-a-bitch needs to get richer because of you.

If you DO, God forbid, get seriously ill right now, you DO realize that you're shit-out-of-luck, don't you?

As has been proven countless times, your Republican buddies are simply going to tell you the following:

1) Possession of money is the best way to apportion health care.

2) People die all the time.

'If you DO, God forbid, get seriously ill right now, you DO realize that you're shit-out-of-luck, don't you?'

I realize that. If I buy insurance, I am betting that I will get sick and the insurance company is betting I won't. I'm not going to bet against myself.

"I'm not going to bet against myself...."

What you're betting is that there will always be laws that mandate your care by emergency rooms. There are people out there that HATE those laws. Few of them are Democrats.

This is a debate, WURSTER, between people who would help you out of ditch if you were face down drowning in one and people who'd call you lazy for having allowed yourself to die.

Wurster, any even small surgury or hospitalization will bankrupt you. Your associates on the right will mock you.

It will be 7 years after bankruptcy till you will have good enough credit even to rent a decent apartment.

Ever ride a bike, play flag football, run, climb stairs, ski. get up on a ladder, dance? Wanna know what it will cost if you blow out a knee?

Any mishap can send you to the emergency room. You will shit a brick when you see the bill. You will also then, be the guy who is freeloading on your fellow citizens who will have to pay for your choice to take the ultimate risk with your financial future.

You are marrying age now. Wanna know what delivering a healthy baby will cost? Wanna know what any difficult delivery will cost? Wanna know what the medical cost of a special needs child over the course of a lifetime will run?

Time to grow up and understand how quickly you can ruin your and your family's financial health.

Get the insurance. It is not a bet against yourself, it is accepting responsibility for your self.

I have insurance to protect my assets in case I get sick or hurt.

That is what insurance should be......a transfer of risk.

Not a "right".

The health care providers around my area know I'm self pay. We work together to reach a financial agreement. I'm always sending the hospital money and I always owe them. As long as I make an effort to pay, they are happy. My wife and I have had two children, both cesarean. I've had pneumonia, a dislocated shoulder, sick kids, eye glasses, dental. I just pay for it and its still cheaper than buying insurance.

I'm 28 years old. Why do I need insurance?

One of your drunken asshole buddies could accidentally hit you with a beer bottle.

Believe me, there are numerous ways for you to have to get medical attention.

When we had both our children, we went to the credit union and got a loan. The hospital gives a 10% reduction for paying cash. It took a few years but I'm proud to say I own both my children.

You'd be surprised to know how well health care providers treat you when you pay them cash.

I realize that. If I buy insurance, I am betting that I will get sick and the insurance company is betting I won't. I'm not going to bet against myself.

#9 | Posted by wurster at 2010-03-21 02:47 PM

what a fool

#14

Well then, you don't need it. Good luck.

When I'm older, I'll need insurance. I should be more able to pay for it as well. But right now, I see it as a waste of money.

Whether I'm right or wrong it is my choice. The federal government has no right to mandate otherwise. Life is risk. Risk is everywhere. I'm not going to live in fear. We all die. One way or another. I'd rather spend my money of enjoying life.

-I'd rather spend my money of enjoying life.

And letting everyone else pay for your ER treatments.

If we're going to pay for it anyway, we'd rather control the costs, thank you ever so much.

'And letting everyone else pay for your ER treatments.'

I've already explained above that I pay for my own health care.

Actually, Skippy,

A vote for THIS BILL is a vote for enslavement to government.

A vote against THIS BILL may force real reform in the health care system.

heck, if you can make things up and present false dichotomies, I can too.

Wurster, a good reason to carry insurance is what if you're in an accident through no fault of your own. Let's say a hit-and-run drunk driver sends you to the hospital.

You'll feel pretty dumb paying $100,000 out of pocket for that. More to the point it could bankrupt you and cripple your future earnings potential. Plus, you won't be earning anything while you're in the hospital, you could lose your house, etc.

I have insurance to protect my assets in case I get sick or hurt.
That is what insurance should be......a transfer of risk.
Not a "right".

Insurance per se isn't a right, but access to health care is indeed a basic human right. Insurance is simply a funding mechanism that allows us to collectively bear the cost of highly expensive yet highly unlikely events such as Wurster getting hit-and-run. As an aside, there are other more predictable events too, like women giving birth. Should women's health care cost twice as much as men's? Their overall costs are about double.

These things are too costly to pay as you go.

Also, successful health outcomes aren't achieved in the same manner in which does something like buying a car. It's a process, not an isolated consumer event.

Not a "right"

Regardless of whether or not it's a "right," it's something we should make a national priority. You don't have a "right" to drive on Interstates, but we still build them. There's nowhere in the Constitution where it says we should go to the moon, but we did it anyway.

The hospital gives a 10% reduction for paying cash.

10% discount = you got ripped off. Insurers get much deeper discounts than that.

Not a "right"

What then is the rationale for laws guaranteeing anyone access to the ER regardless of citizenship or ability to pay?

that is the most stupid comment I have read in a long time here.

#3 | Posted by mitch at 2010-03-21 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You obviously dont go back and look at some of the shit you post on a daily basis.

Snoofy,

I was specifically referring to insurance rather than care. Insurance is still, at its heart, a transfer of risk. Not merely a funding mechanism.

Perhaps that why liberals are so frustrated by insurance. They keep changing its definition

'This is a debate, WURSTER, between people who would help you out of ditch if you were face down drowning in one and people who'd call you lazy for having allowed yourself to die.'

Its also a debate about the tax funding of killing babies.

'I was specifically referring to insurance rather than care. Insurance is still, at its heart, a transfer of risk'

I am more likely to buy insurance for my tools and shop.

Its also a debate about the tax funding of killing babies.

#28 | Posted by wurster

President Obama has an Executive Order ready to sign to double, triple, quadruple the protections already in the Senate Bill to satisfy the right. Stupak and his 6 cohorts are onboard.

I don't think its going to pass anyway.

Au

The right or the funding?

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"LIFE"..

dont miss it...looks great

Any over simplification or opinion backed up up by unfounded charges and insults is the product of a mental midget. You qualify on both counts.

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Insurance is still, at its heart, a transfer of risk. Not merely a funding mechanism.
Eberly, you are right. Well, I would prefer to call it a mitigation of risk or management of risk, but close enough.

Perhaps that why liberals are so frustrated by insurance. They keep changing its definition
I'm frustrated we're talking so much about insurance when this is really about basic human rights. Insurance, in this debate, is just the means to an end.

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I'm getting visions of dancing blue bananas.

"I'm getting visions of dancing blue bananas."

The blue is the psilocybin. Party on!

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