Obviously, yes, AFK, but do take this comment as a takeaway to go back to your political think tank and find the "eugenics" in 'R' sponsored bills.

Eugenics behind obama care ?

Looks like somebody's tether to reality has just snapped.

im just asking the question

but I understand how asking questions will bring to light 'real' agendas from people like obama.

im just asking the question
but I understand how asking questions will bring to light 'real' agendas from people like obama.

LOL

Man the southpark Glenn Beck spoof nails your sick bastards.

It's called Dances with Smurfs.

im just asking the question

Have you been caught masturbating in the library men's room, yet?

I'm just asking the question.

Paging Dr. Mengele, paging Dr. Mengele, you are needed in the E.R.

#4
Certainly the mad science talking points master knows if it there is even a hint at eugenics motivations somewhere within the monstrosity. The oft-used ad-hominems expose the "educated" even more than the pure brainless.

Have you been caught masturbating in the library men's room, yet?
I'm just asking the question.

Because you heard once that retired music teachers do that, right? Just making sure your information is correct, although it may not have actually been aflac?

That's a good question...

Certainly the mad science talking points master knows if it there is even a hint at eugenics motivations somewhere within the monstrosity. The oft-used ad-hominems expose the "educated" even more than the pure brainless.

And the random strings of babble your barf onto this blog certainly expose the "uneducated" as being purely brainless.

"mad science talking points master" was a good one though.

If by that you mean 'someone who actually knows the science behind the topics and isn't just going off of other people's skewed interpretations,' then I whole heatedly agree that I am in fact a "mad science talking points master."

Although it is pretty ironic that you call others talking points masters while addressing issues with 30 second snippets yourself.

im just asking the question

Have you been caught masturbating in the library men's room, yet?

I'm just asking the question.

#5 | Posted by silver_ironist

so if I answer yes...
or if I answer no

I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me or my associates.

#9 jpw
'someone who actually knows the science behind the topics and isn't just going off of other people's skewed interpretations,'

Let's stick to one tiny portion of the bill that you should know intimately. The portion about making any vaccinations the secretary approves as MANDATORY. Since you thoroughly understand eugenics, and were so adept at avoiding the point of Bill Gates' statements even upon being specifically asked multiple times, perhaps you could answer it now since you "know the science".

With your education, you must also know a little history. You must be aware of the more than 100 years of eugenics hard-on policy making from Margaret Sanger, the Ford Foundation to Planned Parenthood to dozens of current day professors, elitist outspoken that we must reduce populations by 80% or more. Even Time Magazine has spouted the elitist propaganda with 'A Case for Killing Granny' (and you know there's tons more where that comes from).

Since the health care bill places so much discretion into the hands of the "secretary", isn't it as simple as having the right elitist "secretary" to administer the health care plan to supplant the generations of wishes of the eugenics cult worshippers?

"If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 per cent." How an improvement in health care and vaccines save lives and lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to those that sterilize people, which just happens to be the methodology advocated by science advisor John P. Holdren's 1977 textbook Ecoscience.

Let's see if your "knowledge of science" and history can translate into honest commentary for once. This is your stage JPW. Imagine the credibility that you can re-gain in just one answer!

scaremongering bullshit. everyone with half a brain can reason their way to the fact that the most effective and responsible form of population control is to not get pregnant in the first place. It's a sad and unavoidable truth that many people who have no business being parents aren't quite smart enough to figure out how to avoid it. It's an infinitely better solution to give the crack whore on the corner a lifetime supply of free birth control than to let her have 15 sick or deformed babies or 15 abortions, but hey, we're only talking about what can rile up the most people, right? Of course, I advocate mandatory sterilization for all closed minded earth hating elitist conservatives as a solution to an increasing global IQ drop, but that's just me.

L_RContrarian

The ugly reality is that religions that promote spreading thy seed oft and as far as possible are responsible for much of the overcrowding and poverty issues. The other side is lack of education. The reason that lack of education is important is because people who are educated are more likely motivated by life and are more capable of making responsible decisions like using birth control.

Statistically speaking educated have less children and therefore consume less resources. Many would have you believe that by doing so we are limiting ourselves in the gene pool and therefore likely to die out. But the reality is that those uneducated and poverty stricken are being struck with the brunt of the suffering. Those of us who educated ourselves and thus rose the standard of our family, our children will have a greater chance of success and therefore will be mostly protected for the suffering that will be imposed on those that choose to breed out of control.

L_RContrarian

The ugly reality is that religions that promote spreading thy seed oft and as far as possible are responsible for much of the overcrowding and poverty issues. The other side is lack of education. The reason that lack of education is important is because people who are educated are more likely motivated by life and are more capable of making responsible decisions like using birth control.

Statistically speaking educated have less children and therefore consume less resources. Many would have you believe that by doing so we are limiting ourselves in the gene pool and therefore likely to die out. But the reality is that those uneducated and poverty stricken are being struck with the brunt of the suffering. Those of us who educated ourselves and thus rose the standard of our family, our children will have a greater chance of success and therefore will be mostly protected for the suffering that will be imposed on those that choose to breed out of control.

oops posted twice

Both sides practice eugenics of a sort in their own ways. Its just a matter of whether it happens before or after birth mostly.

im just asking the question

It's a fucking stupid question. Posed by an equally stupid political hack.

Afkablather a paranoid alcoholic infested with hepatitis C?

I'm just asking the question.

Some people are saying we don't report the facts, but when I say "it is being said that AFK screws chickens," I am not saying he does, just that is what is being said. I am reporting the facts as it is a fact that is what was said.

For the "less educated", consider why avoidance, stall-tactics and ad-hominem attack is the only tools available to them. This can be traced to the "roots" of their 'education', as the professors in the university teach as fervently as a cult religion the very philosophers' world view, from their persective of a utopian elitist totalitarian class rule society, so that if a view were expressed truthfully, it would implicate their agenda.

Two quick examples:

Dr. Eric Pianka, University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert:

"War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. "We've got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. "You know, the bird flu's good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine"

Bertrand Russell writes in a book entitled 'The Impact of Science on Society (1952):

It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. But in his day this was an unattainable ideal: what he regarded as the best system in existence produced Karl Marx. In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship. Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so." 61

L_RContrarian

Educated does not necessarily mean school education. An educated person is a person who takes it upon themselves to create a lifestyle of learning on all levels which would lead to a breaking out of any "brainwashing" that you are talking about.

In fact, it seems to me that there is more propaganda promoting less educated and thus keeping the populous ignorant. In fact, it is not uncommon that religious education turns people into atheists as the teachers are unable to brainwash that students into blind belief and once you start to question then you won't stop until you get the answers.

If you want to know what Pianka thinks, why not judge him by his own words instead of what some idiotic creationist cockroach claims to have heard him say (despite not being backed by anyone else present at the event).

"I have two grandchildren and I want them to inherit a stable Earth. But I fear for them. Humans have overpopulated the Earth and in the process have created an ideal nutritional substrate on which bacteria and viruses (microbes) will grow and prosper. We are behaving like bacteria growing on an agar plate, flourishing until natural limits are reached or until another microbe colonizes and takes over, using them as their resource. In addition to our extremely high population density, we are social and mobile, exactly the conditions that favor growth and spread of pathogenic (disease-causing) microbes. I believe it is only a matter of time until microbes once again assert control over our population, since we are unwilling to control it ourselves. This idea has been espoused by ecologists for at least four decades and is nothing new. People just don't want to hear it... I do not bear any ill will toward humanity. However, I am convinced that the world WOULD clearly be much better off without so many of us... We need to make a transition to a sustainable world. If we don't, nature is going to do it for us in ways of her own choosing. By definition, these ways will not be ours and they won't be much fun. Think about that."

An educated person is a person who takes it upon themselves to create a lifestyle of learning on all levels which would lead to a breaking out of any "brainwashing" that you are talking about.

Learning is anathema to the worldview of the conspiracy theorist and religous fanatic. To those worthless vermin, facts are merely inconveniences to be ignored should they challenge closely held beliefs.

it seems to me that there is more propaganda promoting less educated and thus keeping the populous ignorant

That propaganda is the truth if you manage to get LR talking. "Only in the light of total ignorance will the truth be illuminated," seems to be his motto.

Here we go again. One world government, genocide, death panels, euthanization... why discuss the health care issue when we can run around in circles screaming gibberish?

While there may be a touch of hysteria to the post, Ginsberg thought Roe was driven by eugenics. Nobody's calling her crazy - except me.

#24 z
have you found your strawman? Suddenly you think you found a way to attack. Pretend like your professor(s) role model did not make the quote or throw out the 'out of context' card.

Ok, whatever you say, brainless.

Now that you've failed miserably on your strawman, why don't you take a stab at the bigger picture that dozens of your eugenics cult elite role models have made the same basic statements OR the point of this thread in #12.

#23 richards-Spirit (spirit of who, lucifer?)
education should aim at destroying free will

Educated does not necessarily mean school education.

I'm sure that in 1953, Bertrand Russell was highly concerned about religious education. Post any backing for your nonsense.

Is someone supposed to take YOU seriously? Does someone need to hold your hand for you and post 100 more by these same eugenicists to lock it down for you?

Zat, how hospitable of you to throw one of your professors under the bus to avoid the bigger issue?

Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished.

Educated does not necessarily mean school education. Congratulations, LR. You demonstrate an uncanny ability to take information out of context

Those damn religious schoolmasters of 1953! Do you give a crap that you have destroyed your own crediblity? The DR doesn't forget simply by changing threads.

Zat, Zombie, Richard
I have two grandchildren

Z, Elite scumbags also have grandchildren, moron.

Eric Pianka - MSNBC Video- tries to backtrack his depopulation viewpoint to "sustainability".

#31 | Posted by L_RContrarian at 2010-03-18 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag: doesn't know a physicist from a herpetologist

Never met him.

#22 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2010-03-18 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag: Brainlessly admits to 90% De-Pop?

#21 | Posted by L_RContrarian at 2010-03-18 03:58 PM | Reply | Flag: will be among the 90%

Ah, the truth comes out. Zat sells the global warming mythology in hopes that Al Gore/elitists are watching and will save him into the 10% "enlightened" group.

Guess again, moron. Yours will be coming even WORSE. The elites have even more contempt for their ass kissing minions like yourself.

#24 zombie
why not judge him by his own words instead of what some idiotic creationist [insert incoherent rambling here] claims to have heard him say

Here's WikiQuotes Full Write-Up on 'The Impact of Society' by Bertrand Russell for the intellectually challenged as yourself. So with the full text, what was the lie AND what exactly was out of context, moron???

#24 richard
The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.

Oops. More quotes "in context" that proves you're a complete fraud.

jpw is around, just avoiding this thread after posting an a highly moronic distaction tactic.

Dances with smurfs???

Certainly he knew he couldn't get away with what he knows to be complete BS (#9) and will obviously be called out to defend. Normally very adept at finding each post that attacks his 'talking points'.

Not surprising though, as he made a very determined effort to address everything not necessarily addressed to him in that thread but avoid the one specifically asked of him multiple times which he apparently could not possibly answer (same thing as re-addressed in #12).

why discuss the health care issue when we can run around in circles screaming gibberish?

Because screaming gibberish makes us laugh.

With just one smurfberry...

The health care reform bill has strong maternity care and *does not* pay for abortions, as confirmed by the president of the Catholic Health Association:

L_RContrarian

We are watching you...

It's a sign of how far down the rabbit hole we've gone that Stupak and others think the goal of a universal health care effort is eugenics.

I always wondered if a hookah-smoking caterpillar was writing their talking points. Turns out it was the Mad Hatter.

It's an infinitely better solution to give the crack whore on the corner a lifetime supply of free birth control than to let her have 15 sick or deformed babies or 15 abortions, but hey, we're only talking about what can rile up the most people, right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^

See, things like this make me laugh at the naivete of some people who actually think this shit's a good idea or is even based on reality.

Same type of person who thinks making tougher gun Laws will have an effect on those who ignore the laws.

1. What are the odds of a "crack whore" being responsible enough to regularly take birth control pills? C'mon, its a fucking crack whore.

2. Regarding the first point, having a disabled kid is like winning the lottery, big bucks comming their way for their little "loved" one..all in the name of welfare.

Reminds me of a friend who went to a town meeting to complain about kids speeding through his neighborhood and running the stop sign 3 houses down.

One suggestion was to put up a sign, he stood up and asked what the point of the sign would be considering they're ignoring the other two...the speed limit and stop signs.

What is this? Stop or I'll say stop again?

Same mentality, people have their heads in their asses.

LR, your #12 is a real piece of work, even for you.

But here goes anyway.

Let's stick to one tiny portion of the bill that you should know intimately. The portion about making any vaccinations the secretary approves as MANDATORY. Since you thoroughly understand eugenics, and were so adept at avoiding the point of Bill Gates' statements even upon being specifically asked multiple times, perhaps you could answer it now since you "know the science".

First of all, why would my knowledge of the molecular mechanisms by which vaccines work make me intimately acquainted with proposed policy? It doesn't.

Second, eugenics as a mainstream "science" was discarded decades ago. Given that fact, there is absolutely no reason why I'd learn it (unfortunately we don't lean much history of science...) or be familiar with it's past or present promoters.

With your education, you must also know a little history. You must be aware of the more than 100 years of eugenics hard-on policy making from Margaret Sanger, the Ford Foundation to Planned Parenthood to dozens of current day professors, elitist outspoken that we must reduce populations by 80% or more. Even Time Magazine has spouted the elitist propaganda with 'A Case for Killing Granny' (and you know there's tons more where that comes from).

Again, my education is in molecular biology. However, even if it weren't, I would NOT be familiar with it owing to the fact, again, that it was discarded as mainstream science decades ago.

Besides, the opinions (if that really IS their opinion and not a misrepresentation by your and you ilk) of a few out of thousands hardly makes it something that is legitimately pushed by the scientific community.

(Has it crossed your mind that the Time piece was being facetious and poking fun at the death panel people?)

Since the health care bill places so much discretion into the hands of the "secretary", isn't it as simple as having the right elitist "secretary" to administer the health care plan to supplant the generations of wishes of the eugenics cult worshippers?

Here you're just making shit up to fit your delusional pseudo-reality. eugenics cult worshippers? A little melodramatic don't you think?

And yes, there are so many eugenicists out there just waiting, oh waiting, for their long laid plans to come to fruition...*lighting thunder demonic laughing ect ect ect*

"If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 per cent." How an improvement in health care and vaccines save lives and lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to those that sterilize people, which just happens to be the methodology advocated by science advisor John P. Holdren's 1977 textbook Ecoscience.

I don't know what Gates meant. Neither do you.

You've yet to tell me what vaccines cause sterility.

Let's see if your "knowledge of science" and history can translate into honest commentary for once. This is your stage JPW. Imagine the credibility that you can re-gain in just one answer!

You present a stacked deck and expect me to willingly play? Not only that, but you claim my credibility is staked on that one stacked game?

LOL

You really think you're that clever? That anyone thinks you're some intellectual extraordinaire ridding the world of us evil eugenicists?

m just asking the question
but I understand how asking questions will bring to light 'real' agendas from people like obama.
#3 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2010-03-18 12:01 PM | REPLY |

AFLACK2: Have you stopped dealing drugs? See, I'm just askin the question. And my question is just as legitimate as yours.

Hey, this tea-bagging approach to "journalism" is fun.

im just asking the question

It's a fucking stupid question. Posed by an equally stupid political hack.

#18 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-03-18 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Afkablather a paranoid alcoholic infested with hepatitis C?

I'm just asking the question.

#19 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010

TRANSLATION...uh..duh...er...u
h...I aint got no learning nuff to make a sensible answer to any of this here stuff

Here we go again. One world government, genocide, death panels, euthanization... why discuss the health care issue when we can run around in circles screaming gibberish?

#26 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar

another translation

I dont and cant say anthing bad about the obama takeover because there will be SIXTEEN THOUSAND NEW IRS agents who are going to become the new american gestapo and they might fine me for not doing what iM told on the 'obama plantation'...
zeig heil

Crap I look around and think about 2/3 of the humans walking planet earth should be eliminated from the gene pool.

LR you are right at the top of the list.

Eugenics behind obama care ?
remember when the canidate obama told us that he didnt want women to be 'punished' by having a baby. well is the plan a little further along now?

POSTED BY AFKABL2

You're an idiot.

Are you sean hannity himself? or glenn beck? here visiting the rest of us on the drudge retort.

seriously i hate personal attacks, but your gullibility and stupidity knows no bounds.

Try quoting something that isnt from "REDSTATE" or FOXNEWS or another propoganda outlet.

You make the world worse.

And you're an idiot.

PS this is the same propoganda technique fox uses 24/7. so we definitely know where you learned it.

"I'm not SAYING obama rapes babies. I'm ASKING if he rapes babies. A thousand times a day. Over and over until every idiot in the audience thinks its true"

Idiot.

Putting a question mark after your propaganda talking point doesn't make it less of a propaganda talking point.

Idiot.

Fucking idiot.

Eugenics behind Obama Care?

A classic deflection from the real issue here.

Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?

Inquiring minds wanna know.

Wot Spud did there.

Did u c?

Be Well.

What the crap? All of you fake bloggers bandwagon/tag teaming me on a dead thread.

Richard is watching me? Wow. Should I start quaking? Who is the 'spirit' of Richard? You don't like being exposed as a fraud?

Very hilarious indeed.

What's the matter Booji? You used to be a fan, respecting my strong stand on Creationism. You even agreed completely when I laid out the whole history of eugenics and how it related to Darwinism? What changed Booji? Who do you work for?