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Sunday, March 14, 2010

It seemed like a good idea at the time. Diabetics are at an unusually high risk of heart disease, heart attacks and strokes, so treating them intensively to sharply reduce blood pressure, cholesterol levels and sugar levels should be highly beneficial. But a decade of studies in thousands of patients show that is not the case.

Two new reports from a major nationwide trial called ACCORD released Sunday show that lowering either blood pressure or cholesterol levels below current guidelines do not provide additional benefit and, in fact, increase the risk of side effects. A third arm of the study, released two years ago, shows that lowering blood sugar levels excessively actually increases the risk of heart disease.

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This is the great thing about science. They keep studying EVERYTHING. Change is constant as they try to understand.

If the conservatives ran science the way the want to run everything else, the only choice you'd have at the doctor's office is leaches or electro-shock.

The results are very disappointing, researchers say, because they suggest that clinicians may have reached the limit for what they can do for diabetic patients without the development of totally new therapeutic approaches.

Based on that I'd say the headline is a little misleading.

Imagine where these people would be without ANY treatment at all.

"The results are very disappointing, researchers say, because they suggest that clinicians may have reached the limit for what they can do for diabetic patients without the development of totally new therapeutic approaches."

Based on that I'd say the headline is a little misleading.
Imagine where these people would be without ANY treatment at all.
#2 | Posted by jpw at 2010-03-14 07:04 PM

They would probably be at less risk for heart disease and also less likely to be on insulin is my guess. The raw food diet appears to alleviate symptoms some fom every type of diebetic. I think it's also less risky than overriding leptin or possibly damaging the liver.

This researcher has a very promising study going:

"Dr. Henry Daniell and his team of 20 bio-medical researchers have worked for five years, experimenting with genetically modified lettuce grown in a lab at the University of Central Florida. The leaves are placed in a machine and injected with the human gene for insulin, then powdered and fed to mice. After eight weeks, the treated mice were producing normal levels of insulin."

I recall a 60 Minutes segment on this. Months later, the mice still had normal pancreatic function.

This researcher has a very promising study going:
"Dr. Henry Daniell and his team of 20 bio-medical researchers have worked for five years, experimenting with genetically modified lettuce grown in a lab at the University of Central Florida. The leaves are placed in a machine and injected with the human gene for insulin, then powdered and fed to mice. After eight weeks, the treated mice were producing normal levels of insulin."
I recall a 60 Minutes segment on this. Months later, the mice still had normal pancreatic function.
#4 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-03-14 08:44 PM

Yes, I found a CBS article referencing that very study:

.. The buzz became almost deafening early this year, when the news program 60 Minutes aired a story suggesting that resveratrol-based drugs may one day succeed in slowing aging in humans.

Found mostly in the skin of red grapes and other dark fruits, resveratrol has been shown to protect against diabetes in studies involving mice, although very high doses of the molecule have been needed.

In the newly published study, Coppari and colleagues examined whether injecting resveratrol directly into the brains of diabetic mice would activate a group of proteins known as sirtuins, which have been shown to have anti-diabetes properties in earlier animal studies.

The UTSW researchers injected one group of diabetic mice with resveratrol, while a second group was given saline-containing placebo injections.

All the mice were fed a very high-fat diet throughout the study.

Despite this, insulin levels in the resveratrol-treated mice dropped significantly and were halfway to normal by the end of the five-week study. Insulin levels among the placebo-treated mice continued to rise.

Resveratrol Activates SIRT1
The resveratrol injections were found to activate SIRT1 proteins in the brain and they reduced brain inflammation related to the mice's high-calorie diets.

The study was published this week online and it will appear in the December issue of the journal Endocrinology.

"The brain appears to be a major player in diabetes," Coppari says. "The treatments we have for diabetes target other organs like the liver. The brain hasn't really been on the map."

If the findings are confirmed, Coppari believes the brain could become a target for not only diabetes treatments, but treatments for cardiovascular disease and obesity as well.

The study is not the first to show that resveratrol can prevent the deleterious consequences of a high-fat diet. In November of 2006, researchers from Harvard Medical School and the National Institute on Aging reported that obese mice fed a diet containing 60 percent of calories from fat lived significantly longer if they were treated with resveratrol.

The resveratrol-treated mice lived as long as lean mice, with a much better quality of life, as measured by motor skills tests.

"After six months, resveratrol essentially prevented most of the negative effects of the high calorie diet in mice," study co-author Rafael de Cabo, PhD, of the National Institutes of Aging says in a news release.

Very promising indeed! Especially the part about pancreas regaining and maintaining normal insulin production.

They would probably be at less risk for heart disease and also less likely to be on insulin is my guess. The raw food diet appears to alleviate symptoms some fom every type of diebetic. I think it's also less risky than overriding leptin or possibly damaging the liver.

So not treating a diabetic, and making them eat raw foods will make them...not diabetic?

Am I understanding you right?

Depending on the severity and type of Diabetes, modification of diet can be enough to keep the disease in check.

Certain plants like prickly pear cactus have been shown to lower blood sugar.

It's a classic case of treating the symptoms while ignoring the underlying causes.

So not treating a diabetic, and making them eat raw foods will make them...not diabetic?

No guarantees, but it's a step in the right direction. The general idea is to eat low glycemic foods to reduce the insulin released by the adrenal glands.

"insulin released by the adrenal glands"

www.otherlandtoys.co.uk

Looks like Ray's knowledge of human physiology is comparable to his knowledge of economics and physics.

Zero.

No guarantees, but it's a step in the right direction. The general idea is to eat low glycemic foods to reduce the insulin released by the adrenal glands.

You're only covering one side of the coin.

What you describe-an over abundance of insulin that is ineffective-is Type II diabetes (I think...).

There's also Type I where the body can't make insulin due to the death of the beta cells in the pancreas.

As far as I know Type I can't be treated with diet alone and requires insulin supplementation.

www.zimbio.com

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