Why the hell does it seem there is a disproportionate number of sleazy perverted fucks in politics vs. the rest of the general population?

Wow! just Wow.

These things will happen. It just says something about the folks on the "family values" tour bus.

Kudus to R for getting in a hot tub with a young girl and not a young boy. Frankly, I could give a toss about her allegations, since she already got paid her hush money and should shut up. As for this being the domain of politicians, plenty of those in the "general population" have, and would have done, the exact same thing. It's just the media microscope that delineates these details and sells papers, er, I mean, click thrus.

should read, "a R[epublican]"

Though I agree his actions were wrong and I'm not making any excuses for them; the girl (Maher) says that the incident ruined her life and blames Garn for all of her life's troubles. It would seem that this young lady had some serious issues if all it took to completely ruin her was a nude massage in a hot tub with an older man...

I think she ran out of the first $150K and wants to re-up...

Oh yeah: (insert pointless generic partisan rhetoric here)...

I guess this site has turned into a place to dig dirt about anybody and to publish obits. Do we realy need that or are there real issues out there to be concerned about.

their are other topics that can be covered in other treads so stfu on this one

Why hot tub uneventfully alone when you can hot tub naked with a minor, blow $150,000, and ruin your family life and career?

Goodness. People who think like this actually become leaders. Or is it absolute power corrupting absolutely? Either way.

If she was so honorable, she should never have taken the "hush money"---now if she was honorable she should pay it back with interest---meanwhile, what can you say about these politicians---most of them are narcissistic pathetic people.

Why the hell does it seem there is a disproportionate number of sleazy perverted fucks in politics vs. the rest of the general population?

#1 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE AT 2010-03-12 05:37 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Testosterone.

#3 | Posted by regime_change at 2010-03-12 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag: Doesn't have 15 year old daughter

It just says something about the folks on the "family values" tour bus.

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2010-03-12 05:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

What? That some of them are unable to stay on it but the majority are? Your statement has as much credibility as saying "it just says something about black folks" after the OJ murders. Idiot.

Hard to believe this story didn't come out for 25 years. It should have been criminally prosecuted back then.

Goodness. People who think like this actually become leaders. Or is it absolute power corrupting absolutely? Either way.

#8 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar

And this is where the saying and feeling of "character doesn't count" (for politicians) has gotten us---have always felt that people that make these statements don't have much character themselves.

most people with the power and money would do the same. most of the sleaze bags i know are more likely to have money than not.

Do we realy[sic] need that or are there real issues out there to be concerned about.

#6 | Posted by Sniper

If there are issues that you want discussed post a thread. Otherwise, STFU.

"Do we realy need that or are there real issues out there to be concerned about.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-03-12 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: LAZY-ASS NEVER POSTS SHIT

Seems I'm a day late and a dollar short with my retort. Carry on.

Hard to believe this story didn't come out for 25 years. It should have been criminally prosecuted back then.

#13 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2010-03-12 06:09 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Yup. It's very difficult to believe that there was no touching or anything otherwise sexual involved given the circumstances described, and the fact that $150K was paid.

I'm not sure hot-tubbing naked in and of itself is a crime, but this story seems like more cover-up. The atty that drew the NDA ought to be ashamed too. If it was a crime, and someone was paid to keep their mouth shut, I believe that may be a crime as well.

I am not buying that he didnt do anything with her. He gave her 150K and nothing happened?

If he were a famous movie director, Democrat or had the last name Kennedy this would have never come out.

And yet, you know of all of these. Hmmm.

reply to 27

Jesus. 21. Time for a beer.

An older guy made a little egg-drop soup with a young woman.

Big fucking deal.

Nice of her to blame her 'wrecked' life on this incident.
She's 40 now, and still circling the drain.

What a pathetic shakedown artist she is.

Mistake #1. Getting into a hot tub with a 15 year old girl
Mistake #2. Getting into a hot tub with a 15 year old girl
Mistake #3. Admitting to getting into a hot tub with a 15 year old girl.

The retort is becomming a supermarket tabloid.

#17 | Posted by Sniper

When you've got something productive to say about a "real issue" let us know.

15 ain't a young woman. she's a minor with a guy 2X her age who is clearly a perv. me thinks something did happen. if so, that can have a lasting effect. sounds like her hubby wanted to pimp out the episode too (wouldn't surprise me if he spent a lot of that money). while she's likely no angel, i can see how the whole thing wasn't a positive memory.

I'm not sure hot-tubbing naked in and of itself is a crime ...

Even if no physical contact occurred, as he claims, it was still a crime because of her age. Charges like lewdness, indecent exposure and contributing to the delinquency of a minor -- or something along those lines -- though the statute of limitations has run out.

An older guy made a little egg-drop soup with a young woman. Big fucking deal.

She was a kid. If anything happened it was child molestation.

He may never see the inside of a court room due statute of limitations but he is officially retired from public service

15? In Utah that's an old maid. She probably thought he was going to propose, but wife #6 or 7 musta put her bare foot down in the kitchen.

It makes you wonder what her parents thought of it when she started buying all those top brand clothing and accessories that any 15 year old girl would kill to have.

"I can unequivocally tell you there was no physical contact, there was no touching, there was no intercourse, there was none of those things,"

Horseshit. Guys don't pay $150,000 in hush money for sitting in a hot tub nude with a minor. At best he touched himself while the kid watched in horror. What a scumbag.

"Hi mom. Eh, what's wrong?"

"You had $149,701 deposited into your bank account. Explain this now!"

"Well, I bought a Wii for $299 over the weekend. Ain't it cool?"

"Yeah! Let's play."

Even if no physical contact occurred, as he claims, it was still a crime because of her age. Charges like lewdness, indecent exposure and contributing to the delinquency of a minor -- or something along those lines -- though the statute of limitations has run out.

#29 | Posted by rcade

And don't forget--there was a message.

The whole thing is so taudry.

150k was obviously not enough.

Here's the timeline, with commentary:

1985: Sicko takes a hot-tub nude with a minor.

2002: Minor is now 32 years old and married. Sicko runs for office. She threatens to go public unless compensated. He offers her $20K, her pimp husband says $150K. Done deal, nondisclosure agt. signed.

fast forward. Minor is now 40. Her pimp husband and her are going through a nasty divorce and the money is most likely spent. she now wants justice and compensation, according to her own words.

He's a sicko, she's fucked up. her ex got to leak her money for awhile, and when it ran out there was trouble in paradise.

i'd say the event did screw her up, and not just necessarily from the nude hot-tubbing either - although that's pretty bad too.

John Ensign followed a page in this book, having his parents pay off the aide he boffed.

He may very well end up indicted. The biggest problem he wil most likely have stems from overtly attempting to get the husband a job at a lobbying firm that had business before his committee, and who donated to Ensign's campaigns.

While I can't respect anyone who shakes down a guy for 150 and then goes back for more. If it had been my 15 year old daughter Garn would be missing a few man parts. Oh and if you think the law would have stopped me well you don't know me that well.

Note to self: Avoid Tao's daughters until they turn 18.

But on that special day, make sure to have some Viagra handy as the floodgates of sexual repression (and her knickers) come tumbling down.

:)

I guess this site has turned into a place to dig dirt about anybody and to publish obits. Do we realy need that or are there real issues out there to be concerned about.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-03-12 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Dunno, ask Ken Star if we really need this or not...

So the "minor" says nothing until she's 32 years old and then she and her husband shake down the guy for $150,000 and sign an NDA? And now she's going public again? Sounds like the slut has breached her contract and now owes the guy his money back.

You libs forgive Roman Polanski, and he drugged and raped the girl, and charges were brought immediately. These two apparently had no problem until she saw the chance to blackmail him over a decade later.

I thought the libs / dems were convinced it wasn't "RAPE RAPE" when a sick fuck bangs an underage child...

Or is that only if the sick fuck makes movies?

1Libertarian-
I think that's just one chick on the view. By your logic, the conservatives wish to do whatever Mel Gibson said when he was drunk and ranting about the Jewish conspiracy.

Snoofy,

3 years, I'm a dad but guys within three years are safe. Well for the most part :)

I know my daughter and I know guys within three years of her age and she is sneakier than they are so I figure she can hold her own, she also knows 5 ways to incapacitate a man depending on the situation.

Disney I don't forgive Polanski, Garn or any other child molester. I also don't forgive someone who would be paid 150k to sign a NDA and then go back on it. They are both wrong here but her wrong does not forgive Garn's.

re: "You libs forgive Roman Polanski..."

No we don't. Unless 'you cons' can be said to believe that McCarthy was a true patriot.

An honest person understands that one or two people do not speak for entire political/philosophical traditions.

A UTAH Republican Pedophile is caught red-handed and all you right-wingers can say is:

"Big Deal..."

Shit, you wing-nuts have stashed your moral compasses squarely up your asses!

Moral compass??? We don't need no steenkin' moral compass!!! Ted Haggard and Fred Phelps are our moral compass!!!

The Right

Don't you just love the Republican version of morality.

Statutory rape is fine and dandy if the child survives and grows up and 30 years later is not the model citizen all good Rtards grow up to be.

Rape is no different from a speeding ticke.

Rape and murder is to be celebrated if the victim is a peace activist.

There is nothing a Republican can do that is not excusable by another Republican.

Perhaps it's just serendipity that I just finished re-reading Nabokov's Lolita last week. Even desire has an edge. Especially when you take into consideration most 15-year-olds in industrialized nations mature early due to diet, but more-so the relentless exposure to advertising and its insistence on sexualizing everything to hornswoggle the hormonally-challenged with vague inferance of the delicious, forbidden pleasures awaiting you if only you'd buy those jeans, or load up on magic hair products.

I believe it should be perfectly legal to shoot anyone wearing Ed Hardy.

Ah, axehole... it was the DEMS and LIBS that were defending Polanski...

It was the repubs that thought the shit-stain should be tossed in a jail where he got the same treatment he dished out.

Same goes for this guy....

Of course, when she extorted money, her and her husband should be in a cell down the hall.

In Utah they obviously follow the rule:

"If there's grass on the field, Play Ball!!!"

A Republican caught with a 15 year old?

A girl this time?

Well, obviously a RINO then.

Hard to have any sympathy for either side here.

Garn is a lying sack of shiat who obviously did more than take a nude hot tub with his former Sunday school student or he wouldn't have paid her out to the tune of 150,000.

The woman is now trying to assert that Garn ruined her life and set her off on a road towards substance abuse and mental health issues while trying to wring even more money out of the guy.

Neither of them seem capable of taking any sort of responsibility for themselves.

Garn is a kiddie-diddling assmunch and the girl is a cynical, money-grubbing bint.

They both deserve each other.

Be Well.

I guess this site has turned into a place to dig dirt about anybody and to publish obits. Do we realy need that or are there real issues out there to be concerned about.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-03-12 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Dig Dirt???
This guy openly admits he had an inappropriate relationship with a 15 year old girl when he was her sunday school teacher and you call this digging?

Tell us sniper, how'd you feel about the Ken Star report?

Besides, you can always leave if it bothers you.

At least this was a female. Small improvement?

Small improvement?

Hell, this is BIG NEWS!!!!

Shout it from the rooftops: NOT ALL REPUBLICANS ARE GOAT-BOTHERING CLOSET HOMOS!!! SOME LIKE SCREWING WOMEN!!!!

Seriously good news for the Rtards.

We don't know if the guy did it or not. If he did, throw his sorry ass in jail for rape. If he didn't, let it rest.

On to the Ken Starr, bjwillie affair. clit on was a sleezy guy, not just with his sexual dealings but just about everything he did. There was a lot more to that investigation than a blow job and a funny tasting cigar.

It's sad to see people minimize what this dirtbag did. We should all be able to agree that people like this should not be serving in public office, regardless of the letter D or R after their name. He was a married 30-year-old who had been a Sunday school teacher. He knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was wrong to hot tub naked with a 15-year-old child. And if he did anything more than that, it was child molestation.

We don't know if the guy did it or not.

We know that he got into a hot tub naked with a 15-year-old, because he admitted it himself.

We should all be able to agree that people like this should not be serving in public office, regardless of the letter D or R after their name

AMEN

It makes you wonder what her parents thought of it when she started buying all those top brand clothing and accessories that any 15 year old girl would kill to have.
#34 | Posted by greeneyedguy at 2010-03-12 07:42 PM

That's precisely what I was imagining - explaining away all of that hush money might have leaked this to a number of other people who would then also be made aware the she was basically sold for $150,000 underage sex. A variety of people may have been paid.

A Republican caught with a 15 year old?
A girl this time?
Well, obviously a RINO then.
Hard to have any sympathy for either side here.
Garn is a lying sack of shiat who obviously did more than take a nude hot tub with his former Sunday school student or he wouldn't have paid her out to the tune of 150,000.
The woman is now trying to assert that Garn ruined her life and set her off on a road towards substance abuse and mental health issues while trying to wring even more money out of the guy.
Neither of them seem capable of taking any sort of responsibility for themselves.
Garn is a kiddie-diddling assmunch and the girl is a cynical, money-grubbing bint.
They both deserve each other.
Be Well.
#53 | Posted by dethspud at 2010-03-13 07:38 AM

To "recreate the scene" as their mutual punishment?! Icktasm. How strange a world it might be should they actually have to face their awkward accusation without guilt. You hit it on the nose - she wants money from his pious Sunday pocket. I say "give it all".

We don't know if the guy did it or not. If he did, throw his sorry ass in jail for rape. If he didn't, let it rest.

#57 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-03-13 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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From the Article (first paragraph):

"The Majority Leader of the Utah House took a nude hot-tub with a 15-year old employee, then paid her $150,000 and had her pledge to keep quiet, he admitted yesterday"

Reading comprehension isn't your stronger side is it?

We know that he got into the hot tub NAKED with a 15 year old girl because he admits it. Now, what he was doing once in the hot tub is another mystery BUT I tend to beleive they weren't taking a bubble bath.

In my smelly ass opinion there is some indecent behavior laws that would likely apply.
And if he doesn't pony up some more money soon she is going to either tell the world what happened (or make up some lies)either way he's screwed because he admitted he was wrong in the first place..

it just says something about black folks" after the OJ murders. Idiot.

#12 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2010-03-12 06:07 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You're the idiot.

I was talking about politicians who use the "church" and "family forum" to promote themselves in the community and to eventually get elected.

Look at john Edwards. a real fuck up right there.

look at Vitter. there is no difference in the in the acts they decided to commit. But it does say a lot about people who place themselves on MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Of course you don't want to hear that so you make some stupid reference to race following OJs trial.

"Ya, but she looked 17"

- Kevin Garn

I don't believe this story for one second. A Republican politician in a hot tub with a girl?? No Way!! Could she be a chick with a dick?