And.... his job approval polling is trending back upwards with this push.

It ain't over 'till it's over.

He's doing better than Reagan with a worse recession and economic conditions.

AU,

Only 7% of the public blames the economy on Obama.

His meteoric fall has little to do with the economy - even most of his syncophants in the MSM are beginning to realize this.

JEFF

Presidential approval ratings follow unemployment rates during recessions. When people are out of work or fearful of economic conditions Presidential approval ratings fall. Always.

Nate (?) at FiveThirtyEight did a nifty chart on that.

Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, etc. Same story.

You can make some outlandish tie between all the right wing memes, but "It's the economy, stupid" is the rule of the day.

meteoric fall, lol

The meteor is rising again. 2 of the largest polls, including AP, have him at 53 percent job approval, the average 48-49 percent, with only the usual suspect rightwing-owned outlier poll, Rasmussen, bringing the average below 50 with their lowball, "43 percent".

But the article is well informed, well conceived and well written.

"And it has continued on the stump, where Obama has given a series of scalding, Truman-esque speeches that lump congressional Republicans with insurance companies as defenders of an immoral status quo. The effect has been to lift some of the malaise that was afflicting the Democratic base and counter the image of Obama as bloodless and aloof. And the effect has been contagious.

When Obama showed that he wasn't afraid of enraging Republicans by passing health care through "reconciliation," a lot of congressional Democrats decided that they weren't afraid either.

If the White House shows the same fortitude on financial regulatory reform, and exposes Republicans as defenders of the status quo there as well, Obama's political momentum could continue to build."

Reagan's 2nd year during a recession. It's the economy:

Things got worse for Reagan in 1982. The public's view of the economy remained sour, and the president's ratings during 1982 stayed concomitantly low, in the 40% range, ending the year at 41%. The 1982 midterm elections were not good ones for Reagan and for the GOP. The Republicans lost about 25 seats in the House.

Cork,

Obama has the opposite problem of Truman. Obama STILL has solid personal favorability - it's his policies that are so hated by the public.

"When Obama showed that he wasn't afraid of enraging Republicans by passing health care through "reconciliation," a lot of congressional Democrats decided that they weren't afraid either. "

You mean the most intelligent presidents the US has ever seen, has learned what the Greeks took for granted? "You can't lead from the back".

What is sad, is Obama didn't take the bull by the horns at the begining, he let the House, and Senate create a bill, that now has his name on it. If they pass it, kicking the Democrats out of power will be like fishing with dynamite.

- it's his policies that are so hated by the public.

No Jeffy. It's that major reform is complicated and easily caricatured by the opposition.

It's the rightwing caricature of his policies that people hate.

When you break out the major reforms of the Bill, people like each of them.

Which is why the Bill will be easier to sell after it passes.

AU,

The fundamental difference being that Obama truly inherited this recession. As I stated above, only 7% of the population blames this shit on him. He is rightly being given a pass for this.

His agenda sucks shit and the electorate is reacting to it and this revulsion has nothing to do with the economy.

-this revulsion has nothing to do with the economy.

That's just silly, Rabbit.

Which is why the Bill will be easier to sell after it passes.

What a bunch of shit.

So, essentially your position is that the masses are stupid but they will only see the wisdom of your grand enlightenment after this pile of shit is passed.

Jesus.

You are not that smart. Nor is Obama.

Seriously Cork.

This bill is an absolute attrocity. It is so bad that piece-of-crap Republicans, like Paul Ryan, were able to harpoon its bullshit without a cogent rebuttal from the DNC and the mighty Obama.

The public is overwhelmingly against it because it is a piece of shit (my apologies to piles of shit that are offended by the comparison).

Obama had so much political capital and good will this time last year. If JOB or HEALTHCARE was important he should have shoved proposals down congress's throat. He could have had the repub's up at the Whitehouse weekly, while not giving them anything. Appearances are all he needed.

He squandered it this past summer by letting the House and Senate run the healthcare show. Not inviting more bipartisan input, at the begining.

My guess he is a community organizer, and political calculator. Not a leader, he is learning on the job.

I am not saying I agree with any of these proposals, but the emperor has no clothes.

YOU say 'it's a pile of shit', but when the public are polled separately on the various aspects of what's actually in the bill (like no 'death panels' and 'no government takeover' BS) they all score highly in favor.

Right wing nuts have distorted and lied and twisted until the public's totally confused. Again, given the separate details they're strongly for them. A public option never scored less than 57% approval and as high as 78%. But, to hear the right wing nutcases, no one was for it.

The excuses being made about this hack are sickening and exactly what is wrong with this Country.

The excuses being made about this hack are sickening and exactly what is wrong with this Country.

It seems like all the Bushlings have switched sides, doesn't it?

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

When people are polled on this shit in its entirety (and that includes a realistic view of the costs), they are staunchly opposed.

Staunchly.

This bill is a pile of toxic shit.

Jeff and Am,
People support the parts, but when they view the whole, they don't. What is needed is for the parts people like to be separated into a NEW BILL and have that passed, then work on the all the other aspects IMHO.

This bill is a pile of toxic shit.

That's merely your opinion. It isn't what the public think when given the different aspects of it.

Have you read the bills, or are you relying on what someone told you?

The best bill will be one that both Democrats and Republicans are not totally thrilled with as that would probably best represent the needs of the nation as a whole.

(and that includes a realistic view of the costs

So, you'll completely ignore the fact that the non-partisan CBO says it'll save $150 Billion over 10 years and $1 Trillion in the next 10?

You STILL utter that statement? Are you living under a rock?

Then there's the Medicare BS. The only thing it affects is addressing the overcharges private insurers are billing for Medicare Advantage - which is the GOP's private answer to Medicare, and which is definitely taking advantage of the taxpayers.

-So, essentially your position is that the masses are stupid but they will only see the wisdom of your grand enlightenment after this pile of shit is passed.

-No Jeffy. It's that major reform is complicated and easily caricatured by the opposition.

It's the rightwing caricature of his policies that people hate.

When you break out the major reforms of the Bill, people like each of them.

Which is why the Bill will be easier to sell after it passes.

Even your Strawmen are silly today.

It seems like all the Bushlings have switched sides, doesn't it?

#18 | Posted by kanrei

Yeah, the Slaughter Rule was one of his favorite tools while in office. Didn't he use it to go to war in Iraq?

It ain't over 'till it's over.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2010-03-11 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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He's doing better than Reagan with a worse recession and economic conditions.

#2 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-03-11 11:

your enthusiam is so ..sob sob..sniff...inspiring..
of course it sounds like you both have been in some sort of moratorium on tv watching the past week...
lol

Here's some more Mojo...

WASHINGTON The government ran up the largest monthly deficit in history in February, keeping the flood of red ink on track to top last year's record for the full year.

The Treasury Department said Wednesday that the February deficit totaled $220.9 billion, 14 percent higher than the previous record set in February of last year.

The deficit through the first five months of this budget year totals $651.6 billion, 10.5 percent higher than a year ago.

When people are polled on this shit in its entirety (and that includes a realistic view of the costs), they are staunchly opposed.

Staunchly.

This bill is a pile of toxic shit.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2010-

DAMN

dont all you STUPID fellow conservatives GET IT

once this thing passes,,THEN you will know whats in it..

geesh...just listen to nancy will you>??????????
SHE KNOWS whats best for you stupid people....

We have TV's at home. You? In the library? I think not.

#17 | Posted by wisgod at 2010-03-11 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

And the fact the use of terms like hack, socialist, communist, etc. when referring to our President are futher indicators of what is wrong with this country. It's easier to throw out catch phrases and call opponents names than it is to sit down and logically debate.

"Which is why the Bill will be easier to sell after it passes."

That's what Pelosi said....I can't wait to pass the bill to see whats in it...

Wow, bad blackberry, that post should have starte "And the use of terms..."

Even your Strawmen are silly today.

#24 | Posted by Corky

Poll numbers support my "stawmen".

The only thing supporting your arguments are rationializations.

Wow! Large monthly deficits after a year of fighting off Bush's Great Recession?

Who'd a thunk it?

Great Mojo.

January 9, 2009 - Bush "strong disapproval" = 43%
March 11, 2010 - Obama "strong disapproval" = 42%

It's easier to throw out catch phrases and call opponents names than it is to sit down and logically debate.

#30 | Posted by taxman

Sure. Like Elliot Ness sat down to a logical debate with Al Copone.

-Poll numbers support my "stawmen".

No, polling of the separate parts of the Bill do not support your position.

Polling about what the Bill has been easily caricatured as, because it is necessarily large and complicated, is what you refer to.

And the Bill cannot be separated into to those parts for passage, because so many of them are interdependent.

Don't worry, Jeffy. 30 million more Americans with health care is a good thing, not a bad thing.

It's easier to throw out catch phrases and call opponents names than it is to sit down and logically debate.

Tell that to Obama.

Large monthly deficits after a year of fighting off Bush's Great Recession?

In fairness, deficits were a no-brainer. but what has been so infuriorating is that he seems to go out of his way to exacerbate them to the nth degree. Spending has been ratcheted up instead of being curtailed under Obama.

Wow! Large monthly deficits after a year of fighting off Bush's Great Recession?

Who'd a thunk it?

#34 | Posted by Corky

Yeah, bang up job of fighting it off, Corky. You might want to stick your head our of your gated community in Naples and see what the rest of us see in this Paradise he's created.

#27 | Posted by wisgod

Here's some simple math:

You add up dramatically depressed tax revenues in the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression, $700 Billion a year debt service, $150 Medicare Part D, $230 Billion in 2 Bush tax cuts, 15% capitol gains rates, $200 Billion this year fight two wars (DOD's share + supplementals), etc.

What do you get?

Deficits. Amazingly, with recession borne loss of revenues, exactly the amount of the deficits.

I don't want to bring up the "B" word, but this didn't get started last year, bra...

- he seems to go out of his way to exacerbate them to the nth degree

You mean like putting the Bill on Budget and getting good CBO numbers on it?

He could have done what Bush did with trillions in tax cuts for teh rich.... put them on our chidren's credit card.

I keep asking RisR how he likes other poorer people's children paying for his tax cuts.... and apparently he doesn't seem to mind.

"Wow! Large monthly deficits after a year of fighting off Bush's Great Recession?"

I don't want to bring up the "B" word, but this didn't get started last year, bra...

#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

I guess you didn't want to add the $783B to your simple math.

Polling about what the Bill has been easily caricatured as, because it is necessarily large and complicated, is what you refer to.

Necessarily?

This bill exacerbates costs, increases the deficit and adds yet another entitlement when current entitlements are going bankruptp.

It's a piece of shit and the public mood proves that.

You are attempting to spin something that can't be spun.

And can't seem to be passed by the majority in power. Har, har.

-You might want to stick your head our of your gated community in Naples and see what the rest of us see in this Paradise he's created.

What I see is a guy who did the same thing Hil or McCain or any other modern Pres would have done, spend our way out of a recession, Keynesian economics 101.

Now I know that seems counter-intuitive at first, but I would have thought even rightwingers would have caught on by now.

It's already been passed. Twice.

"worst recession since the Great Depression"

Such a stupid talking point. Far, far from the truth. Here's a nice Time article that can lay out a little perspective. Just because some Liberal pin-head labeled, in an election year, that the recession was the worse since Great Depression doesn't make it true.

"Inflation and interest rates, both topping 18%, are so far beyond anything that Americans have experienced in peacetimeand so far beyond anything that U.S. financial markets are set up to handleas to inspire a contagion of fear."

"It's Government that causes inflation, and Government can make it go away by cutting out deficits and stopping the printing of money." -Reagan

Like Elliot Ness sat down to a logical debate with Al Copone.

When talking about Washington I am not sure anyone is Elliot Ness. You should have said it would have been like Al Capone sitting down with George Moran.

-This bill exacerbates costs, increases the deficit and adds yet another entitlement when current entitlements are going bankruptp.

Hmmmm....who to believe? The CBO and top economic forecasters or Jeffy?

Decisions, decisions.

-Now I know that seems counter-intuitive at first, but I would have thought even rightwingers would have caught on by now.

Man, I am an optimist, eh?

Now I know that seems counter-intuitive at first, but I would have thought even rightwingers would have caught on by now.

#46 | Posted by Corky

If you want to defend what the $783 was and is being used for, go for it. Most people with an ounce of common sense can use a good laugh.

who to believe? The CBO
The CBO HAS to use ALL of the assumptions its given. Most of said assumptions are bullshit. There's a reason why the Great BO and his cohorts in congress and the MSM were and still are silent to address Paul Ryan's deconstruction of Democrat-math.

People who still have their jobs because of the stimulus, including teachers, fire-fighters, and police don't need anyone to defend it.

Hmmmm....who to believe? The CBO and top economic forecasters or Jeffy?

They both spell out the truth. The only thing the plan does is to change who's paying the bills. Either way, current system or health scare "reform," costs will rise astronomically.

Cork,

You cite nothing but public jobs.

How much has the lauded 'stimulus' stimulated the private sector?

MOJO BACK

how about the news that arnie duncan is using the 'singleton' education map

the guy who says that individualism is the same as 'cultural racism'...
and that things such as planning ahead are 'white chraracteristics'

why should this guy be a worry.,..he is basically running schools in VA and DC

"People who still have their jobs because of the stimulus, including teachers, fire-fighters, and police don't need anyone to defend it."

Another pin-head liberal talking point. That dog just don't hunt. It's a budget scare tactic to make the public pay more in taxes. It's like telling your wife that the new boat and plasma TV were in the budget, but you need extra money to pay for the kid's dental and clothes.

-Most of said assumptions are bullshit

Yeah, those damn stupid top economic forecasters and CBO Commie pinko Fag degenerates..... hey, Jeffy!

For a moderate, you are catching onto this radical right Teabagger stuff really well!

Cork,

The fundamental flaw with the health-care system is that almost all services are paid-for by a 3rd party. This process naturally leads to accelerated costs. The HSA model is the best way to go. Hell, even if it was government-funded, it would drive down costs.

Sadly, the Dems and the left would never even give it consideration.

MORE MOJO

obama to "RESET" the poverty line

and HOW? plan is said to be to take what people make and COMPARE It to what others make..

does the phrase 'FROM each according to thier ability, TO each according to thier needs" ring a little familiar here...

-How much has the lauded 'stimulus' stimulated the private sector?

Between 2 and 2.5 million jobs saved or created so far, with much of it not kicked in yet, according to top economic forecasters.

But you guys digress. First it was whining about his polling numbers trending up, then whining about the health care Bill about to pass, and now you are back whining about the stimulus?

You guys are going to run out of cheese pretty quickly at this rate.

AND TURBIN DURBIN said YESTERDAY On senate floor

that HEALTH INSURANCE WILL GO UP.........under obama care...

that sure helps the old mojo,dont you think?

AND TODAY when cbo scoring comes out and obama mojo is blissfully celebrated here and on cnn and msnbc
DO NOT FORGET that this scoring takes in MEDICARE cuts which we all know will NEVER happen

AND that dems have four years of PAYING for it before anyone gets anything out of it..

-The HSA model is the best way to go.

No, the single payer model cuts 30 percent off the top.

The REAL problem with the health care system is that insurers are NOT responsible to clients, but to stockholders.

A few deaths here and there and millions uncovered is important to clients, not stockholders.

Between 2 and 2.5 million jobs saved or created so far, with much of it not kicked in yet, according to top economic forecasters.

You guys are going to run out of cheese pretty quickly at this rate.

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2010-03-11 12:30

those numbers are disputed by many....I still hear from people that there is no way to calculate a saved job but I guess they just arent the genius that the left posters here are...

"The HSA model is the best way to go. Hell, even if it was government-funded, it would drive down costs."

Is there one single industrialized nation that uses that system??? My daughter has an HSA with a $2,000 deductible. She needed an MRI, she had to pay for it herself. She's single and makes decent money but what about a single mom with kids, how would she pay for it? I don't think the HSA model is by any means the best, it's great for those with money but terrible for those of us without.

#65 | Posted by Corky

So, you lament an insurance company denying coverage but perform a golf-clap when government denies coverage?

That makes sense.

Regardless, you failed to address the broader point that is 3rd-party pay greatly accelerates costs. An HSA model, even a government-funded one would correct that (see Indiana for proof).

Poll numbers support my "stawmen".

If we run the Federal government on referendum alone national politics will be as vindictive, useless and partisan as local California politics.

Polls numbers never supported nuclear proliferation measures. Polls never supported desegregation. Polls never supported intervention in WWII. Polls never supported the Louisiana purchase. If a poll would have been taken in 1775 revolution would have only seen support in a few New England enclaves.

Polls show most Americans can't find the Atlantic Ocean on a map. You want to hand over one of our most important national security investments to a nation of Miss Teen South Carolinas? Some things are too big and too complicated to entrust to people who answer cold-call dialing services.

You're a smart guy, JJ. When was the last time you took the time to answer a telephone survey?

#68

The point is that Toyota was all over the news trying to make amends for their mistakes because they care not only about their stockholders but about keeping their clients happy, too.

CIGNA or Wellpoint or the others have no such campaign when they kill people or refuse to serve them, as a lawful monopolies, they just drop policies and raise premiums 40 percent while they have record profit years.

People who still have their jobs because of the stimulus, including teachers, fire-fighters, and police don't need anyone to defend it.

#54 | Posted by Corky

You/theycan come up with any trumped up number regarding those who didn't lose their jobs you like. Laughable. I can hardly wait for 24 hours after the Health Care Bill passes when you claim 3M+ didn't die during that period because of it.

also dont forget..some of the numbers of jobs saved are NOTHING OF THE kind but are actually jobs that got raises and these pricks are counting them as saved somehow..

MORE OBAMA SO CALLED MOJO.,.,.which is correct of course...his mojo towards being a LAME DUCK...

REID and schumer....want to abolish filabusters..
figures..ANYTHING dems cant win...talk radio, electoral college...thier answer...do away with it.,

PELOSI tells us...pass it and then you will see whats in it..
AND she ends that speech with
"ITs about diet, not dibetes"
translation...FOOD POLICE NOW FORMING....
dont believe me?>

new york set to BAN salt...already about to ban something called twice fried pies???

AND COKE TAX to help the fat little kids...sure it is..

MORE MOJO TO lameduck...

DOJ hires ex terrorist defenders to NOW prosecute them and white house refused to release names...

WOW..too bad it wasnt bush doing this so the left might think its actually a problem

one problem?? do these LEFTWING lawyers have national security clearance???

I mean EVERYDAY...there is more and more mojo...it almost makes my head spin..

"Regardless, you failed to address the broader point that is 3rd-party pay greatly accelerates costs. An HSA model, even a government-funded one would correct that (see Indiana for proof)."

The thing is Jeff, third pary payment doesn't need to greatly increase costs as Medicare plainly proves every day. An HSA still turns into a 3rd party payer after the deductible is met, right? It would somewhat reduce costs by reducing doctors visits, I don't necessarily think that would be a good thing.

We can hardly wait for his "fireside chats in a cardigan". When will the rabbit attack this time?

If they want my support for the Health Care Reform Bill (not that they really care, but anyway), I would like the following:

1. No pre-existing conditions- I understand not allowing top tier insurance to people with pre-existing, but they need some form of coverage and, when part of a large group, should not factor in.

2. No dropping paid customers- Too many times insurance companies, not Health, but if we are going to reform insurance, let's do INSURANCE, will either drop or raise the rates of a person for a claim. That is wrong and punishes people for using a service they have paid for.

3. Tort Reform- I may have the wrong word for what I am talking about here, but there needs to be a major overhaul of not only the medical insurance end, but also the ability to file lawsuits end and no risk lawsuits must be done away with.

4. Remove the Surgeon General "medical viability of procedure" clause from the bill. It is not a dollar and cents issue when dealing with someone's health- it is up to the doctor treating the patient, not someone in another state to decide.

I am sure there is more

What will piss off rightwingers more, the initial election of President Obama in 2008, or his reelection in 2012?

Look, a rerun of Fantasy Island.

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both parties are in on the corporate health care scam.

neither wants medicare +.

Danni,

Medicare is skyrocketing to bankruptcy AND they reimburse below cost right now. The only way providers turn a profit is to make up the difference by charging private insurers even more. This is what is happening in California with Blue Cross' 40% rate hike. Due to the economy, a shitload more of Californians are going on the Medicaid doles and the providers are demanding a ton more from the likes of Blue Cross in order to cover the losses imposed by government.

Again, end 3rd party pay - a person-to-person transaction not only introduces all sorts of inherent cost-saving measures - "Is this test necessary? Are there cheaper drugs that do the same thing? Etc" but it's also a natural form of tort reform:

Doctor: I think this MRI is necessary for proper diagnosis.

Patient: I don't want to pay for it.

Doctor: Understandable. However, without this test you can not legally hold me liable for failing to treat a problem that you prohibited me from properly diagnosing.

*for those who are HSA ignorant - it's a spending account coupled with catastrophic insurance coverage AND usually well-visits are either free or with a nominal co-pay.

He was missing potatoes?:

"third par[t]y payment doesn't need to greatly increase costs as Medicare plainly proves every day."

What exactly is Medicare proving every day? That government plans can't control costs? That participants have to dig into their own pockets, even after government promises? That rationing is occurring with increasing frequency? That there is not one government program that pays for itself?

-The thing is Jeff

Danni, Danni, where did we go wrong with our young man's edumacation? I blame myself for giving him the Chuck Norris doll when he was 12.....

Retort #70, boy.

-Doctor: Understandable. However, without this test you can not legally hold me liable for failing to treat a problem that you prohibited me from properly diagnosing.

Elements of the Bill address, though not thoroughly, changing the pay incentive for Drs from procedures and tests to results.

Elements of the Bill address, though not thoroughly, changing the pay incentive for Drs from procedures and tests to results.

Which, at the end of the day is meaningless when it comes to utilizing defensive measures to prevent a lawsuit.

There's a reason why the whole 'tort-reform' argument of the GOP was never considered - the Dems are in the pocket of trial lawyers.

Jeebus, Jeffy. If it weren't for crusty old Repube talking points about tort reform and trial lawyers you would be speechless.

Lawsuits are in decline, payouts are spotty at best, and the totality of savings is less than 1 per cent of all costs.

Try to get some newer, more substantive talking points.

And try retorting #70.

Corky, mentioning talking points. That's rich.

I can't help it if Dems repeat what I day, lol.

Corky, mentioning talking points. That's rich.

Amen!

the Democrats will get shellacked this fall no matter what

The question is, will it be like the Clinton years? Or will the repubs just try to shut Obama down even more.

-Amen!

Argh! Defeated by superior logic and irrefutable fact. Hate when that happens.

#90 | Posted by Corky

Touche!

At least it wasn't the Tadpole Rule again.

He's given up the dream that he could transcend the partisan divide.

Thank God.

I gave up that dream about 8 years ago.

"No pre-existing conditions- I understand not allowing top tier insurance to people with pre-existing, but they need some form of coverage and, when part of a large group, should not factor in."

What about pre-exisiting conditions which are preventable? Should they be lumped in with those who have one by no fault of their own?

Mojo my ass..... His poles hit a new low today... What the fuck is this Fantasy land?

The man will never see a second term...

I have to wonder if when Congressman Kennedy is Driving the Big Blue Bus the hell out of town after the November election if he will swing by the white house and Beep and Wave goodbye...

Gonna need a bigger Bus!

If that's his Mojo back, he needs to give Austin Powers a call....

You libbies are living in a fantasy world. Godalmighty. Get out more. Everyone hates this turd of a healthcare bill. Less than a quarter of Americans (22%) strongly support, with his overall approval hitting new lows every day.

I head over to Drudge and see the headline "Obama at New Lows", and I refresh the page, thinking it was the same one I saw on Tuesday. Nope. Fastest decline in history.

Mojo. Funny.

MOJO BACK??? - Just wishful thinking.

MOJO?----yep, it's back----it's on a moped.

the mo-fo and his mo-jo are a no-go

Barack Obama finally figures out that there are no moderates left in the Republican party and that attempts to appease them through watered down legislation is futile?

Good.

Bout bloody time.

Bipartisanship is only doable if both parties are willing to meet each other half way and the current crop of GOPhers quite simply are not.

GObama.

Be Well.

No matter which side of the healthcare debate you are on, there are inescapable facts.

The Amercian people overwhelmingly reject Obamacare. By a 2 to 1 margin, 3 to 1 in some polls. Does the administration care about the will of the people? No.

Reconciliation, or worse the Slaughter Rule, is a loathesome misuse of our Constitutional processes. Does the administration care about our Constitution? No.

What we have is an administration who cares not at all about the will of the people or the laws of our land. Even Democrats must understand that this is not our way.

This administration is without doubt the most corrupt, secretive, unqualified ever to disgrace the White House.

What we are seeing now are the desperate, hopefully futile, flailings of a doomed political agenda. An ego driven rape of our country by an ideology rejected by America many times. We do not wish to become a European style socialist democracy. With good reason.

"We do not wish to become a European style socialist democracy."

Speak for yourself fool. When asked about the provisions in the health care bill individually most Americans approve, therefore after it is approved most Americans will be glad it was.

Speak for yourself fool. When asked about the provisions in the health care bill individually most Americans approve, therefore after it is approved most Americans will be glad it was.

#104 | Posted by danni

Doesn't look like you will be getting your wish. Not enough Democrats interested in retiring this year to pass the bill.

...inescapable facts.

LOL. Here's a clue ...Faux facts from Faux News aint facts.

The Amercian people overwhelmingly reject Obamacare.

The facts are these. The US desperately needs HC reform and the vast majority of Americans favor some form of reform. Most of the resistance to the latest reform efforts comers from the fact that it doesn't do enough. No public option. No anti-trust legislation to break up the virtual monopoly. No national drug buy etc.

This administration is without doubt the most corrupt, secretive, unqualified ever to disgrace the White House.

Were you born yesterday?

Ever hear of a guy called George Bush?

War Criminal, Traitor, totally corporately corrupted shitstain?

Be Well.

BushCo were the worst, most secretive, most corrupt, most unqualified admin EVAR!

Be Well.

MOJO BACK
day before next rasmussion poll showing even lower numbers of approval but more importantly HIGHER numbers of DISSaproval....

and if the 'slaughter solution' goes through to further RAPE the constitution...dems may lose house AND senate.

Speak for yourself fool. When asked about the provisions in the health care bill individually most Americans approve, therefore after it is approved most Americans will be glad it was.

#104 | Posted by danni at 2010-03-12 09:03 AM | Reply

Danni knows all about speaking for fools having had to live with herself most of her adult life...she was not herself from 1998 to 2003 when she was fixated on her past life as a yeast infection.

watching obama, the one, the chosen, "most merciful" LOL, play at being a president and shit on the people with his arrogance....and the coming inevitable fallout.....PRICELESS!

Problem:

There's a BLACK man in the White House...

obstructionists dont want to say it. but it is, what it is.

No.

There's an insidious little Communist fuck in the White House.

That's the problem.

"There's an insidious little Communist fuck in the White House."
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#111 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

Didn't even have to scroll down to know what psycho posted that. Jacque ought to talk to some of his fellow rtards like RubeisRube who think Obama is Bush's 3rd term. Kind of hard to reconcile the two positions on the right, but that's why they're called rtards.

Jacque ought to talk to some of his fellow rtards like RubeisRube who think Obama is Bush's 3rd term

they aren't in agreement. the dislike obama for different reasons. LOL

Kind of hard to reconcile the two positions on the right, but that's why they're called rtards.

those are the 2 positions?

Obama = Bush

or
Obama = communist fuck

pretty narrow list of options Nulli.

No.

There's an insidious little Communist fuck in the White House.

That's the problem.

#111 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-03-12 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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and he happens to be black.... thats the real problem.
Barry is no more Communist that W.

"pretty narrow list of options Nulli."

Just pointing out the most extreme differences among the right. No doubt, there are more reasonable/moderate positions between those extremes, yourself, for example.

Obama is obviously black. But if that was a problem he wouldn't have gotten elected. Even with "strong approval" poll numbers at a minuscule 22% that is still above the black voting population. Obama is probably not really a communist, but is certainly a little socialist fucktard. The real problem though is that he simply does not give a royal fat fuck about what the American people want. With the executive experience of a pin-holed condom Obama can't even get his own party to agree that water is wet and the sky is blue. Ass fucking the American people is neither leadership nor mojo.

Just pointing out the most extreme differences among the right.

we have our extremes...no doubt.

Obama is obviously black. But if that was a problem he wouldn't have gotten elected.

#116 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2010-03-12 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Bullshit. what percent of the population does the teabaggers make up? Not enough to swing the election but still racist. Besides, He was ELECTED and the approval is at twice the numbers of the last President who is a little communist bastard.

Suck it up and live with it. The man was elected to the office.

Ass fucking the American people is neither leadership nor mojo.

#116 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2010-03-12 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Have a little irritation on the ole anus, do ya?

"the approval is at twice the numbers of the last President who is a little communist bastard."

Great argument, except for the fact that Obama has managed to drop his numbers in a single year. It took years of Bush fuckups to equal what Obama has managed to do in 13 months.

"the last President who is a little communist bastard"

Since Obama is clearly to the left of Bush, Obama would surely admit such, you then do admit that Obama is at the least a communist, if not even further left than that?

People support the parts, but when they view the whole, they don't. What is needed is for the parts people like to be separated into a NEW BILL and have that passed, then work on the all the other aspects IMHO.

#20 | Posted by kanrei

Now you sound like the Republicans. ;o)

Rahm and Barry keep their MOJO up by sharing naked locker room chest poking fun.

If your still watching this guy you're probably drinking as much scotch as he evidently is.....

#123 | Posted by themaniscoming at 2010-03-12 08:19 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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take a fucking hike asshole... you are a obviously a partisan hack of shit....

Since Obama is clearly to the left of Bush,

#120 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2010-03-12 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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clearly?

what do you measure with clown?

screw you and your partisan bullshit.

Beinart: Obama Gets His Mojo Back

His MOJO will disappear in November when the Socalists get their asses handed to them for ramming through this steaming turd of a bill.

Barry is no more Communist that W.

#114 | Posted by lfthndthrds

its very clear and with little doubt now that the obama agenda will push us into a western europe style democratic socialism....

and lets make sure we pay attentiont to the riots this week in Greece.
citizens who have GOVT benefits cut back have taken to the streets. a quite logical conclusion to the OBAMA AGENDA.
in other words..watch the videos to see YOUR FUTURE

take a fucking hike asshole... you are a obviously a partisan hack of shit....

#124 | Posted by lfthndthrds at

could you take a moment and reread your last couple of posts...and after I read it and then this one. the childhood phrase,...takes one to know one....came to mind...

its very clear and with little doubt now that the obama agenda will push us into a western europe style democratic socialism....

gets all his retarded talking points from GlennBeckistan

#128 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2010-03-13 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry aflakbabble, I guess i kinda drifted to the darker side... This was a little more outta character for me. I was pissed at TMIC for his remarks about me on another thread.

Do have yourself a nice day and take a little of your own advice...

"We do not wish to become a European style socialist democracy."

Speak for yourself fool.

#104 | Posted by danni at 2010-03-12 09:03 AM

Ah.... finally the Socialist acknowledge themselves.

Burn Everything! Leave nothing for the dogs!

Speak for yourself fool.

#104 | Posted by danni at 2010-03-12 09:03 AM

"Ah.... finally the Socialist acknowledge themselves."

Is it any wonder why danni is a fan of Chavez???

gets all his retarded talking points from GlennBeckistan

#129 | Posted by donnerboy at 2010-03-13 02:37 PM |
Think maybe it is time for a new schtick? You have been playing the GlennBeckistan routine a lot lately, and it has lost its cache. No, I don't listen to Beck. (In case you wanted to say I was defending or touting him.)