The gay Muslim organization Salami Likem had no comment.

This will go a long way toward advancing relations between Christian and Muslim bigots.

That was seriously funny, Zombie.

You get an FF flag.

#2 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-03-11 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is unfortunately true, common enemy and all that jazz.

My friend in Pakistan knows I'm gay and have never expressed the least problem with it.

Where you find religion, you find religious nutters.

My friend in Pakistan knows I'm gay and have never expressed the least problem with it.

Where you find religion, you find religious nutters.

#5 | Posted by valis at 2010-03-11 10:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Correction:

Where you find people, you find nutters.

People will be nutters in something, whether it be religion or something else, even with out religion we would have nutters. Religion has very little part in the equation.

Once a nutter always a nutter.

Uh, exprs...religion is a big part of the problem. It ups the nuttiness exponentially. You know, when you can say, "but this is the way God/Allah/Muhammed/etc wants it to be, so it must be so!" and justify your action based on some religious text or exegesis thereof.
Remember, people actually listen to Falwell and others and think of them as being prophets, not just nutters with a high soapbox.

Same with the guy who took out several people after barging into a church in East Tennessee to 'kill some liberals' after listening to a nonstop stream of how evil 'they' are.

(Guys, it ain't the 60's no more)

I don't buy the "Religion has nothing to do with it" argument. If there wasn't a pie in the sky when you die get out of jail free card by saying the magic words 77 virgins and a mule for nutters to believe they get as soon as they die, there would be more thought about immediate consequences.

#7 | Posted by regime_change at 2010-03-11 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag

Question: Were they a nutter before they did that?

Answer: Yes.

It is the case that they are a nutter who happens to be religions and uses that as an excuse for their nuttery, not that they are necessarily religions nutters.

There is a difference.

A nut will make any situation nutty, religion, politics, science, biology, space, time, emotion, actions, thought, writing, work, play. etc.

A nut is a nut is a nut is a nut. What the nut decides to put on the outside does not matter, whether baked, salted, honey roasted, dry roasted, toffee covered, chocolate covered, they would still be a nut without the covering.

So their nuttiness precedes their covering.

The covering is just an attempt to mask their original nuttiness. Others use it that way too. It his case it happens to be religion. It is just a mask, and fellow junior nuts will fall for that mask as being the nut part of the product rather than the covering the nut chose.

Investigators believe the assailants chose the victim because he appeared to be gay. When the men were pulled over, police found a video camera that was used to film the shooting, investigators said.

Clearly, of course, this had to be a Christian right-wing, tea party, anti-government, bigoted homophobe from the South. Right?
Posted by nanc at 12:59 AM

They do possess similarities.

#11 - Like the Bush-hating, potsmoking, Pentagon shooter?

Whats the difference between christian fundos and muslim fundos?

nothing

Same as the difference between theist fundies and atheist fundies.... two sides of the same fundie coin.

Like I said, a nut is a nut, no matter what they cover themselves in

...still searching for info on Christian Fundies murdering gays...

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2010-03-11 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

WHO CARES!

Just look to all the people that hate homosexuals in Christianity. Mostly Fundies, thus, according to Jesus they have murdered "gays" as you call them, or those who are better known as homosexuals.

Didn't have to look to hard to find that.

Clearly, of course, this had to be a Christian right-wing,

Or their twins, the whackjob rightwing muslims. Same God, same stupidity.

Or their twins, the whackjob rightwing muslims. Same God, same stupidity.

No, I think the muslim religiousistas have far outpaced the christian one. No comparison unless you want to go back a few centuries with the Christians.

Muslims have a better organization for their crazies. Christians and Jews don't focus them like the Muslims do.

Like I said, a nut is a nut, no matter what they cover themselves in
#15 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2010-03-11 02:58 PM

Funny flag - my Mormon buddy should enjoy this thread.

"Whats the difference between christian fundos and muslim fundos?"

Let's see, airplanes into buildings? Sawing someone's head off on YouTube? Stoning women to death for going to school? Throwing people off the tops of buildings? Chopping arms off for theft? Execution for being gay? Women not allowed to drive or vote? There may be a few minor differences, it seems, but if the liberals don't mind, why should I?

...still searching for info on Christian Fundies murdering gays...
#16 | Posted by nanc at 2010-03-11 03:00 PM

Do you count KKK, EK and such as "Christian Fundies"?

Any minority can be seen to have been systematically ravaged until they obtain legal equality. Not immediately recognizing all people as equal unconditionally at that moment defines the outcome that we experience today - codifying what constitutes what minority, the deliberate and systematic abuse of providing standards of living and thus economic dependency, lessened opportunities based on insubstantial mythos, preconceptions about our behavior, nature and place in society. It's all been done. We all are guiltlessly interwoven and each strand entangles it's neighbors whom pattern themselves to each other accordingly, blabbity-etc. Multi-chromatic existence with multitudes upon multitudes of infrastructural sub-pattern potentials - all based on what you perceive. I choose color and chaos and orders within borders, March madness purple krokus hokus-pokus there's a fight outside of my apartment just now, six black male, 2 black female - does that make my non-emergency call racist because I identify them based on their appearance? No, but they simply wouldn't take it inside, and I just cleaned glass out from that hedge this morning and somebody still bleeds on it. Irony!

Anything less that full equality is a means of separation from legal protection and fair process.

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot - I had no idea one could still purchase mescaline these days.

You could learn much by watching chickens - toss a weak and small chicken in the midst of some strong and big chickens. Wait a couple of minutes.

Religion has very little part in the equation.

Bullshit.

Religion has a HUGE part in the equation. I'm sorry your pathetic grasp on reality requires you to believe otherwise.

#10 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

Again, what complete bullshit.

You want to deny religion's culpability in spreading hate throughout the world simply because you yourself ARE religious.

There are acts of hate committed everyday that are motivated by religion.

These by no means mitigate the good that is ALSO done by non-crazy religious groups.

You have to take the good with the bad. Key word being WITH.

You could learn much by watching chickens - toss a weak and small chicken in the midst of some strong and big chickens. Wait a couple of minutes.

My God you're one simple bitch, Nanc.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2010-03-12 12:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

It has nothing to do with me being "religions" it has everything to do with logic.

They chose to be religions, they chose to take any religions behavior that they take, therefore, they are the nut in the situation.

Religion cannot make a person do anything, you and those like you who claim that all religion is man made, (which is true)put all culpability on man by saying that man is the one who made the religion, and the nuttery.

So when it comes down to it, the man is the nut, not the religion. The man is culpable, not the religion.

It sounds like you don't want to take responsibility just because you are part of mankind and that would mean that you may be just as much of a nut as any religions nut that every committed nuttery.

Either way, I think we can all agree it comes down to man, since you don't believe in anything greater and think that all religion is man made.

The nut came before the religion.

Clearly, of course, this had to be a Christian right-wing, tea party, anti-government, bigoted homophobe from the South. Right?

No, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Immoral religion based intolerance is not exclusive to Christianity.

Be Well.

Immoral religion based intolerance is not exclusive to Christianity.
#27 | Posted by dethspud at 2010-03-12 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or even "religion" for that matter.

Or even "religion" for that matter.

Can an atheist be intolerant?

Hellz, yeah.

That noted Spud did specify "religion-based intolerance" there.

Be Well.

Can an atheist be intolerant?

See "Under G-d Lawsuit" for example. =D

No, I am saying that immoral religion based intolerance is not limited solely to "religion"

I'm not talking only of atheists, as that is not fair, I am talking of all realms irrespective of religion that show religion based intolerance.

Abstract thought, true description, sad state of affairs.

Muslims Come to Sanfranfreakshow to Gay-Bash

Posted by nanc at 12:59 AM

And, by that headline, you've clearly posted this thread to do the same.

"Whats the difference between christian fundos and muslim fundos?

nothing"

I suppose that depends on what "fundos" mean.

There are many more Muslims who advocate killing people for just not being Muslim than there are Christians who do the same. Violent Christians target abortion doctors and people like that. And most Christian fundies are much more annoying than violent.

Both religions can be taken to extremes but Islam seems much more prone to violent extremes.