By "child abuse"--do they mean detention and corporal punishment? I'll read the article.

Yep. Which means that Rein is just getting his rocks off the news again.

Hmm "Seclusion" so I guess now even time-outs are too rough for our schools?

How do some of the idiots on here get pro-rape and pro-child abuse out of this. Oh wait....... The partisonship on here is just too wacked out.

The hatred the liberals on here have for Rebublicans is very disturbing. I have to wonder if these people live their personal lives with such vitrol. If so, you must be very lonely. To get anywhere in life you have to comprimise in both your personal and business lives. Get use to it.

Welcome to the Drudge Retort, EM, where the liberals here represent liberals as a whole.

And, yes, they hate everybody. They live their own lives that way, and they've never gotten anywhere in life.

Reinheit is actually mild compared to Axe and Celisary, though.

Restraining students to the point of suffocation

Umm duh and there are already laws to deal with it.

"It's quite apparent that emoguy has his head buried in the sand."

Congrats Reino, you are now on the same level as Boob when it comes to skewed headlines. Pro rape and pro child abuse? Because they know there are already laws in place against abusing kids? Even better is the fact there were several dems who also felt this was just another waste of creating a needless law. Sadly, this sums up you and the stupidity of the authors of the pathetic article you linked:

"Perhaps not so shocking after all: In a country that condones torture not only in its military detention centers, but in its state and federal prisons, immigration jails, and juvenile detention centers, it was only a matter of time before it trickled down, even into our schools."

"Rape Repugs Are Also Pro-Child Abuse"

Broad brush, broad brush

Geeze.

Umm duh and there are already laws to deal with it

Because they know there are already laws in place against abusing kids

Actually, there are 23 states have no laws against the use of restraints. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

Most of the objections to the H.R. 4247 refer in one way or another to states' rights, and to the "dangerous" precedent the bill could set for a federal takeover of schools. "It's one thing after another after another after another," says Iowa's Steve King, "and pretty soon its a national curriculum with federal mandates, and imposing cultural impositions [sic] at the school level in every accredited district in the country." Texas's Louie Gohmert says the bill sends a message that states and local school boards are "a bunch of morons" because they "can't figure out that sitting on a precious little child and killing em is inappropriate."

Unfortunately, nearly half of the states in the union (23) have no laws against the use of restraints and seclusion on schoolchildren, and several others (7) have weak or spotty laws. A detailed breakdown is provided in a chart created by attorney Jessica Butler, accompanying her article on the subject on Wrightslaw.

Rhein I really try to be passive on here but you are pissing me off. Restraint to the point of suffocation, not just restraint. 2 Very different issues. If you want to talk about restraint then say that and leave out the suffocation but don't move the bar after you make a statement.

How does one argue or debate anyone who finds elected leaders are in favor of rape and child abuse because they vote no on a bill? Not that I surprised it is another whack job akin to Boob, I am surprised Rcade allowed someone to skew a headline that has zero truth or accuracy.

Although GAO could not determine whether allegations were widespread, GAO did find hundreds of cases of alleged abuse and death related to the use of these methods on school children during the past two decades. Examples of these cases include a 7 year old purportedly dying after being held face down for hours by school staff, 5 year olds allegedly being tied to chairs with bungee cords and duct tape by their teacher and suffering broken arms and bloody noses, and a 13 year old reportedly hanging himself in a seclusion room after prolonged confinement.

Pro-War.

Pro-Rape.

Pro-Torture.

Anyone surprised that these immoral fuckstains are Pro-Child abuse as well?

I am surprised Rcade allowed someone to skew a headline that has zero truth or accuracy.

Couple of things.

First, there is both truth and accuracy in the headline whether you acknowlege it or not.

Second, the blog-god doesn't change the headline and lede until after it's been greenlit to the front page and this one hasn't yet.

The pro-rape charge was discussed in a previous thread.

Here is a better headline:

Stupid Demos are also idiotic.

Broad brush, broad brush

Geeze.

#8 | Posted by CalifChris

This is just Reinheitsgebot being Reinheitsgebot, an idiot. I would expect nothing less from him.

Hey Member, we all know you loathe women with an almost Lykos-like tenacity but where did yer hate fer kids come from?

Or are you arguing that some kids need solitary confinement, being duct taped up, bungy corded to chairs or being held face down till they die?

Wot kid of lesson does that teach?

Be Well.

Umm duh and there are already laws to deal with it.

#6 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Why dow we need Federal laws to deal with this? This is the problem with having a Federal Department of Education, which Republicans used to want to repeal back when they were real Republicans.

This is an issue for states to deal with. I dn't think education is one of the enumerated powers in article 1 section 8. These power-hungry tyrants ignore and rape the Constitution every single day, especially when they vote for such Federal laws.

Dethspud, read my #16.

It figures you think I hate women. Whenever anyone disagrees with Liberals about women they are labeled misogynist. What you think about me is irrelevant.

Member: The problem is, while what Dethspud or any other individual blogger thinks about you is irrelevant, the fact that many people who read your posts have reached the same conclusion should give you pause. Maybe you are a misogynist and genuinely have never examined your thoughts or feelings closely enough to realize it. Self reflection requires discipline and the willingness to see inner ugliness without flinching.

Moder8, your attempts at amateur psychology fail miserably. Just stick to your day job, I am sure you are good at that.

Uh, why the fuck are the feds involved in this issue at all? There are plenty of state laws in effect already, and I'm not so sure that the commerce clause can be read broadly enough to make this a federal crime in the first instance.

So, if a kid gets corporal punishment (read assault dipshits), the feds now come in and prosecute a federal fucking case over the local DA prosecuting under state law?

Where in the Constitution would the feds have jurisdiction to do this? Sure, it's easy to say we all want to protect our kids, and if you don't vote for this, you like child abuse. That's a pretty cynical and twisted view of it. It's overreaching is what it is.

Reinbutt, its liberal judges who keep letting child molestors out of jail or giving them probation. Its also liberal lawmakers who keep opposing megans law.

This is why Bill O'Reilly keeps pointing out your libtard judges who do this.

Jesus H. Christ.

Reihn and Spud, on this thread alone, join forces for the douchebag of the month award.

Truly pathetic.

By "child abuse"--do they mean detention and corporal punishment? I'll read the article.

Yep. Which means that Rein is just getting his rocks off the news again.

#1 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-03-07 11:29 AM | Reply

Maybe you should have actually read the article.

Examples of these cases include a 7 year old purportedly dying after being held face down for hours by school staff, 5 year olds allegedly being tied to chairs with bungee cords and duct tape by their teacher and suffering broken arms and bloody noses, and a 13 year old reportedly hanging himself in a seclusion room after prolonged confinement.

#23. and are you saying that the teachers face no criminal inquiry or consequences should the allegations prove to be true under existing state laws?

How do some of the idiots on here get pro-rape and pro-child abuse out of this. Oh wait

Technically the reactionaries are just not anti-rape or anti- child abuse.