Wow,
Just like many of the middle aged in America. Who knew they had so much in common?

Iraq always was a shithole and always will be a shithole. Welcome to Islamo World.

Wow,
Just like many of the middle aged in America. Who knew they had so much in common?
#1 | Posted by daprof at 2010-03-05 08:15 PM

"Dear youth of Iraq,

Should you decide to take revenge consider focusing upon the Zionists, neocons and Republicans - they want your absolute conquer, submission and separation from national identity. They hate your freedom and your culture and destroyed what little you had left to get at your oil.

Have at them, please - we are sick of them.

Thank you!"

Maybe they should have taken advantage of the billions of dollars that was literally being poured into their country and built a brighter future for themselves... Naaaaaaaaah, it was more fun to see shit blow up and shoot at people who were trying to help.

I hope Iraq is a cesspool for centuries.

Iraq's Young Feel Hopeless About Future

Give em a little Change to go go along with that Hope and everything will be just peachie! -- Barry Obama

Maybe they should have taken advantage of the billions of dollars that was literally being poured into their country and built a brighter future for themselves... Naaaaaaaaah, it was more fun to see shit blow up and shoot at people who were trying to help.
I hope Iraq is a cesspool for centuries.
#4 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2010-03-05 08:57 PM

You make my point all too well - Republicans such as yourself have tried to make the world a cesspool for centuries now. Your people have consistently proven incapable of making correct decisions precisely because all of your brilliant minds "predicted" everything WRONGLY from the beginning. WMD's - lie. bin Laden - lie. Saddam - lie. Democracy - lie. You lied us into multiple wars with no cause and the world knows what to expect from you because not only has that ruined world views of Americans in general, but for generations to come. Way to go, party of racism, lies, genocide and greed! Your day awaits..

"By way of veiled threats though shalt cast aspersions."

america has always done a pathetic job of bullying and beating up the retards at the front of the special bus (vietnam, afghanistan, iraq, etc.).

perhaps the american administration should start thinking about passing the remedial classes it fails each year (like finance 101) so they can graduate so they don't have to ride the special bus anymore.

actually, they'd probably end up DRIVING it for the rest of their lives and send their money overseas to israel or china, lol.

Though = thou, but it doesn't matter really - all you can do is lie your way through life. All Republicans ever do is lie - there isn't one sane or rational member among you.

And here you asshats are wishing for the continuation of war. I really don't believe that we are on the same planet, let alone the same species. You cretins are filthy, but you already knew that.

What they need is what NYC got:

Is this what it means to be on the right. NO one but yourself is important? I'd take a guess only a few even read the article completely.

Rob I understand because I've read his speech about he's only on here to be an asshole.

But then again, what if that was your daughter? Don't you realise that these are people too? They're not monkeys, or apes, or dogs. They hurt, they bleed, they die, just like we do.

And our young people have some of the same problems they do. Where there is no work, kids dropping out of school, after all what are you getting educated for if there isn't something you can do with that education?

I read where she longed for the days of Saddam, where they could go out after dark, where they could go to school. Is it any wonder in their short lives that they turn to hating the US? All they can remember is strife.

At times I am very ashamed we had GW as a president, ashamed of what he did, what he commanded us to do. The buck stops there, he was president.

Me, I hope these young people survive to live a better life. Where they can marry and be happy, and have children. I fear though that the world won't let them, judging from the few comments here, and the comments I see every day about muslims.

I had a friend who used to say I'm not white, I'm human. The day we can all say that will be a happier day for all

"For us as Iraqi youth, we haven't seen anything nice in our life,"

Welcome to Islamo World.

So True......

Now we got the little buggers wishing they were American.... After being exposed to American Soldiers I think it is a no brainer to these kids just how ripped off they got....

It's sad but the Welcome to Islamo World statement is on the money. They have to wake the fuck up and put the Islamo shit away. I think some of them realize that now. Islam = Dead End! American Kick Ass!!!

They need to modernize...... They need to lead...... They need to take down the Islamo World Ride and start thinking along modern lines. I think it has become evident to them that if they don't, their life will always be "Nothing Nice".

I think the guy kind of wishes America would help them out more with industry and jobs before we totally split.

The more Poverty we leave in our wake, The more radical Islam shall we sew.

You do realise they had industry and jobs before the war right? It may not have been much but it was something. Sure it wasn't perfect in our eyes but what about theirs.

And as for the islamo shit, my gawd, can't someone please keep religion out of it, at least on our side. Instead of insisting they become something other than islamists, how bout we try to understand what it's about first. Seems I've seen christians rag on each other, christians rag on jews, christians rag on athiests, need I go on.

i'm pretty sure one of these kids one day will ride a nuke into some downtown american city...

...and of course everyone will be looking round wondering why it happened-- BINGO!!! IT MUST BE THEIR RELIGION! YEEEAAAHH!

You do realise they had industry and jobs before the war right?

Paul Bremmer's predecessor, retired General Jay Garner, tried to get security at Iraqi factories but was turned down cold, so they were all looted and a million people out of work.

Instead of insisting they become something other than Islamists, how bout we try to understand what it's about first

I think I understand it pretty well.... Every Islamic society has the same template... Most of the people live in poverty or just above...

Show me any Islamic country where this is not the case... It's not a racist thing with me... I could care less if it was the green religion. They tend to have a lot of poverty.

Show me any country that is divided along ethnic and tribal lines mixed with religious sects that isn't currently destroyed by war...

Any religion or ethnic affiliation that looks to the 13th century as a guide for today's world is doomed to failure and intense strife...

We have Christians Jews Arabs Republicans Democrats, Italians, Indian, Spanish... Etc in this country... We don't blow up the fucking A&P because we didn't get our way or because the jews or the Sunni Muslim people shop there...

Any ideology that even considers thinking at levels as low as that is ultimately doomed to failure. Being nice and caring and tuchy feeley about the issue of their religion prolongs the agony. They need to modernize and grow the fuck up.

TheMan-
re: Most of the people live in poverty or just above...

Show me any Islamic country where this is not the case

Um...Dubai, Saudi Arabia, etc.

Yes I see you don't understand it well.

Living in poverty, you can't tell me there's no christians living in poverty.

You are right about a country divided along those lines, we are being destroyed by a war we didn't want nor need, and I'm talking about the USA here.

And you're right about a religion who looks to the 13th century as a guide, but actually I think the bible goes back further than that.

No we don't blow up the A&P, we go after the IRS or the Pentagon

And you're right the christians do need to grow the fuck up.

Now I'm sure that wasn't the response you expected. Sorry I didn't have answers to all your questions. I could give a rats ass about being touchy feely to anyone about their religion, I do think however that condemning someone without ever knowing them or even trying to understand how they feel only leads to more hate and anger.

Our biggest problem here in america was the arrogance to think we could change a nation, change their religion, change the way they thought, change the way they lived.

They were not Little America to be raised and groomed like an adopted child.

Dubai, Saudi Arabia

Why didn't you pick Qatar where the per capita is almost 90 thousand a year??

I said countries divided along religious lines and sects.. You know where they blow each other up with body bombs.

Dubai is pretty modern when it comes to Islam... They don't attack other religions there either... So As I said they have grown up for the most part.

The Saudis are faced with the constant threat from Islamic crazies though... They are a constant threat in that country. Not as safe there as you would like to think. Could you go there and walk the streets at night? I doubt it...

I don't think the average person in either country is all that well off.

How about Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Samolia, Jorden, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Algeria, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Berma, Indonesia,

Just go here almost every one on the list is a country you wouldn't want to live in. Islam isn't all it's cracked up to be....

No we don't blow up the A&P, we go after the IRS or the Pentagon

Yes the two nuts out of 300 million of us... Keep going you're convincing me more and more how terrible this country is...

The "Man"

No, you said this, idiot:

Every Islamic society has the same template... Most of the people live in poverty or just above...

...which is bullshit.

Why didn't you pick Qatar where the per capita is almost 90 thousand a year??

That would have been a good one.

Thanks for providing it.

I said countries divided along religious lines and sects..

No, you didn't.

Read "Son of Hamas." The whole childhood of these people is filled with the teachings of DEATH.... Every One of them..... All 2 Billion of them.... Study the Koran every day.... The kid gives you a good view into a world where from day one DEATH TO ALL NON BELIEVERS is the NORM!!!!!!!!

Wake the hell up lady.

"TheMan"-
Here's a good general rule for you:

When you say something stupid you can't defend, it's best to just retract it early rather than digging in further.

Later

Though = thou, but it doesn't matter really - all you can do is blah, blah, blah

#11 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2010-03-05 09:49 PM | Reply | Flag: DIPSHIT

There is no problem defending it... I am correct... Pick apart the details all you want... Some people just can't face reality... You would rather just make your own up... Islam is correct and we are screwed up in your eyes... I get it...

Man we suck.... We should all just hang our heads when we walk down the street...

re: Islam is correct and we are screwed up in your eyes... I get it...

Man we suck.... We should all just hang our heads when we walk down the street...

#31 | Posted by themaniscoming at 2010-03-05 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think your misunderstanding of my position may be explained by the fact that you are a fucking idiot.

REALLY must go...

I think you misunderstand me.

I think this country is great, it's the one I was born in, lived in all my life.

There are things I don't like about it and it's my right to state them.

I don't however condemn other country's just because they don't live the way we do. I could never be that arrogant. I also don't believe we can solve every nations problems, again I think that's arrogant.

I don't walk in their shoes and they don't walk in mine, but I have enough humility to know that I don't know it all, I never will.

I wasn't trying to condemn you for the way you feel, but I was hoping to open your eyes to other possibilities.

On a final note, thats it for me tonight. Good night everyone sleep well

other country's

I'm not talking about countries as much as the ideology on a whole. Read the book.... Hamas Kid is only the latest person to step forward and tell it like it is.. He should be commended.

Not here this late to argue... I got a hot new computer and I just can't shut the hell up I'm so happy...

Iraq always was a shithole and always will be a shithole. Welcome to Islamo World.

#2 | POSTED BY FWTHOM

Good thing we blew a trillion dollars trying to 'fix' them. instead of saving our own country.
Next time neocons recommend something, can we please do the opposite?

Thank all the war drum beaters in the mediacorps, and all you suckers who believed them instead of thinking for yourselves.

Fuck cheney. fuck bush. and fuck anyone who couldnt see them for what they so obviously were.

Ya know, the whole middle east problem is really because of the eco weenies.

If we had been drilling for oil in this country, using the clean coal, drilling off the coast, etc; when Iraq invaded Kuwait, we would have said "too fucking bad... we have our own energy supply". Well, we COULD have said that.

Of course, then we would have Saddam and his sadist in control of Iraq, Kuwait, probably Saudi, the UAE and all the rest. Wonder how many dead Iraqi, Saudi and Kuwaitis? Not to mention the strangle-hold on both the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf. I believe the figure I saw put average dead per year in Iraq based on Saddam's policies at about 350K. I am sure that he would have been nicer to the countries he captured [just ask the Kuwaiti's if you know any who survived the experience].

Would have been a real bitch for the rest of the world but, eh... fuck em.

"we lost a heard of goats...."

Abbott: A heard of Goats?

Costello: Of course I've heard of Goats, I'm not a complete idiot, ya know.

Abbott: No, a Goat herd.

Costello: Wot do I care wot a goat heard? I'm not keeping any secrets from goats.

/Sorry, couldn't resist.

Iraqi youth feel the future is hopeless?

Meh, if yer country was invaded and occupied by a superior military force who killed hundreds of thousands and reduced millions to starving refugees you'd prolly feel the same.

The Iraqi nightmare can't start to end until the US picks up it's ball and goes home.

I had a friend who used to say I'm not white, I'm human. The day we can all say that will be a happier day for all.

~Drgnlady

Strewth.

Only one race.

The human one.

Be Well.

If we had been drilling for oil in this country, using the clean coal, drilling off the coast, etc; when Iraq invaded Kuwait, we would have said "too fucking bad... we have our own energy supply". Well, we COULD have said that.

~1Librarian

You actually think America could become self sufficient in terms of oil by doing more drilling off of the US coast and in ANWR?

Wow, yer dumb.

That wouldn't even make up fer ME oil much less America's other foreign sources of oil.

/Canada, fer example, sells America more oil than the entire ME.

If America had taken the concept of energy independence seriously when Carter first addressed the issue then perhaps more alternative energy sources woulda been in place by now but America fucked up and elected Reagan. Twice.

Morons.

Be Well.

You actually think America could become self sufficient in terms of oil by doing more drilling off of the US coast and in ANWR?

Just by drilling? No. Include coal, include nuclear, include tidal power, hydro-electric. Put wind farms on Kennedy's grave site if they generate energy at a reasonable price.

But EVERY energy project is opposed by the eco weenies. Can't build wind farms, the birds fly into the blades... can't use tidal basin turbines, it might harm the seaweed, can't damn the rivers, etc etc. Bunch of useless fucking weenies.

Wow, yer dumb.

Glass houses, prick.

Canada, fer example, sells America more oil than the entire ME.

And with slant drilling, huge amounts of that would be available from within the US. He he he.

If America had taken the concept of energy independence seriously when Carter first addressed the issue then perhaps more alternative energy sources woulda been in place by now

If that ass-clown carter could have lead a fucking parade, maybe he would have deserved a first term. And, if he wasn't so completely useless, he could have done more than tell people to wear a sweater.

... but America fucked up and elected Reagan. Twice.

Morons.

Thank GOD. Our country was in HORRIBLE shape when Reagan took over. Still, I love how, when the majority elect BO, you think they are so smart, and when they elect Reagan, they are morons. Perhaps they picked the best candidate in both cases? Again, carter was a clown and the dems should have dumped him... but they didn't. The only reason we had Reagan was because of how bad his rabbit fearing predecessor had done.

Just by drilling? No. Include coal, include nuclear, include tidal power, hydro-electric. Put wind farms on Kennedy's grave site if they generate energy at a reasonable price.

You fergot geothermal and solar.

But EVERY energy project is opposed by the eco weenies. Can't build wind farms, the birds fly into the blades... can't use tidal basin turbines, it might harm the seaweed, can't damn the rivers, etc etc. Bunch of useless fucking weenies.

Wot fucking bizarro universe do you live in where greens don't want clean energy alternatives and conservatards are fighting for them?

Other than Kennedy selling out the cause to block wind farms blocking the view of the other spoiled uber riche pricks offa Martha's Vineyard the record is the opposite of wot you suggest.

Carter put solar panels on the WH and Reagan took 'em down.

Our country was in HORRIBLE shape when Reagan took over.

It was in much worse shape when the brain-dead hack left office.

Perhaps they picked the best candidate in both cases?

And perhaps they are only batting 500.

The only reason we had Reagan was because of how bad his rabbit fearing predecessor had done.

Reagan/Bush negotiated with the Iranians behind a sitting president's back in order to affect the election. America fell for his flash and ignored Carter's substance. Also Reagan was unafraid to use the politics of race in order to secure the racist vote in the US putting him well over the top.

Be Well.

Iraq's youth have been feeling hopeless about their future for decades. How sad.

Rob I understand because I've read his speech about he's only on here to be an asshole.

But then again, what if that was your daughter? Don't you realise that these are people too? They're not monkeys, or apes, or dogs. They hurt, they bleed, they die, just like we do.

uh huh... those poor, poor terrorists and savages.

If that were my daughter over there I'd be ashamed that she hadn't packed up and left yet.

I'll never understand the "blame America first" ideology. I just won't. I see a country that was ruled by an asshole plain and simple, and then several countries came along, got rid of the asshole and tried to build up a country where its people would rule. And what did that people decide to do? Roll up their sleeves, and get to work building their country? Fuck no! They decided to start shooting each other and blowing shit up and try to put a halt to any efforts to build a stable society.

Put that situation in our history. Let's say during and just after the Revolution the colonists/new Americans decided instead to start killing any all catholics and especially wanted every French person dead.

I had a friend who used to say I'm not white, I'm human. The day we can all say that will be a happier day for all

#13 | POSTED BY DRAGNLADY

Your friend is a douchebag... every time I stare up at the moon I say, "Go team White," and every time I put peanut butter on a sandwich I mumble, "thanks Blacks."

-And what did that people decide to do? Roll up their sleeves, and get to work building their country? Fuck no! They decided to start shooting each other and blowing shit up and try to put a halt to any efforts to build a stable society.

And this suprised you?

Wait until we leave and they go at it again until another strongman like Saddam takes power to the cheers of the people.

"Of course, in Iraq the Sunnis are just waiting for us to leave so that they and the Iranian-backed Shiites can get it on again unopposed.

They say that the talk in Iraqi coffee shops is that people are becoming nostalgic for Saddam.... anticipating the need for a new strongman to control the political/religious factions once we leave.

Bush's lies, not to mention all that American blood and treasure, all for naught..... OK, all for a second Bush term.

Posted by Corky at 2010-03-04 04:00 PM |"

Show me any Islamic country where this is not the case

Um...Dubai, Saudi Arabia, etc.

#20 | Posted by BetelG

I wouldn't bet on that if I were you. The people that work for the kings and leaders in thoes countries have money but.......... get outside the cities and into the country. It is a different story.

Here's an illustrative graphic: Life expectancy versus health care cost by country.

killed hundreds of thousands and reduced millions to starving refugees you'd prolly feel the same.

I love when they just spit out the numbers like that...

Hey Spuds where did you get these numbers?

Even the AP lists the dead at below 200,000 and most of them died as a result of Sectarian violence... As for the millions of starving refugees, again sectarian violence.

This leads back to my argument that these people need to put the islam and sectarian thinking down if they are ever to have a normal life. Killing one another over suni and shia beliefs is just barbarianism...

The Iraqi Sunis were killing the iraqi shia long before we got there. How do you feel about the millions of refugees in Pakistan fleeing from the Islamic Extremists and the war there... Are the Millions of refugees in Samolia our fault too? How about all the other african countries that you apparently are totally unaware of where millions have been killed due to sectarian violence??

We currently have 2 million Cuban refugees in Florida.... Not worth mentioning for you though because you can't blame it on George Bush I guess... The bitching about Gitmo never ends in here...

The point I was trying to make before the rude people started the name calling in here was: You can not have a Society where Religion and Sectarian beliefs rule. It Fails every time.... I am 49 years old... I have been reading about it and seeing it on the news all my life..... It is noted throughout history... IT DOESN'T WORK.... We are living in the 21st century not the 13th century.

Don't come in here and post the names of countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar as examples that Islam Works..... Because the one thing the people in those countries have learned is that making a living is far more important then weather or not the guy next to you at work is a suni or a shia... They value life more than death. Which is exactly what the hell I was saying in the first place is required. They grew up...

#48 | and that is why I hope to God the next virus/pandemic/chemical or biological or nuclear attack hits a Muslim nation.

That's pretty pathetic, even coming from you.

That's pretty pathetic, even coming from you.
#49 | POSTED BY CORKY

Oh no.... meeeeehhhhhhhhhh... you're fake condescending judgmental post has rocked my world... oh the fake outrage! I'm sooooooooo sorry!

-I'm sooooooooo sorry!

That's a given.

Nobody mentions the 500 Metric tonnes of Uranium we took out of Iraq after we invaded... That's not WMD's? Put a pound in a bag with two sticks of dynamite and detonate that in mid town Manhattan... What you would have is a lot of unusable real estate... And probably several hundred if not a few thousands of deaths from radiation related illnesses...
This notion that Saddam was completely clean is a fucking joke.... We just dug up a chemical laden rocket that was berried in Iraq a few weeks ago... How many of those are the Iraqis going to find?
shhhhhhhhhh... I know it's so much more fun for the leftists to say Bush Lied..... The more Obama's poll numbers drop the bigger of a liar George Bush turns out to be in their world.... I'll keep saying it... That's all they have left...
#80 | Posted by themaniscoming at 2010-03-07 09:08 PM

This is also relevant.

The more Obama's poll numbers drop the bigger of a liar George Bush turns out to be in their world

We already knew Bush and his cohorts in crime were liars. Loooooong time ago.

When Obama reached Bush's historically low 21% we'll talk.