when one party feels for the unemployed,

Krugman is getting more and more hysterical. After that big article last week, I'm starting to think he doesn't even write anymore--his wife does. Either way, he's so far off the deep end he's starting to sound like a lunatic. He used to write about things like economics. Now it's one Obamania screed after another.

"getting more and more hysterical....I'm starting to think he doesn't even write anymore--his wife does."
#2 | Posted by rightisright| Flag: Douche

I actually read the article here last week. He writes his pieces, then his wife makes the edits. I know he's a big hero of yours. Why not give credit to where it's due?

I really think you're stupid, Doc. Do you actually read the articles that are on here? Or is that too much trouble?

I really think you're stupid
#4 | Posted by rightisright

You'd undoubtedly be rendered practically paraletic, damn near poleaxed, if you knew just how little weight what you think carries.

RisR is as predictable as the sunrise.
He writes his own posts but he is provided with the ideas to put in them by whoever it is that pays him to post.

You're on to me.

"#2 | Posted by rightisright| Flag: Douche"

Yes, how dare you not admire and worship the "Nobel laureate Paul Krugman". I know I do. You should hang on to every word this genius utters. He should infatuate your mind. And if you have any admiration left it should go to Frank Rich. For he is yet another windbag that needs a clue.

How can people who have to work for a living think they are the "constituents" of people who are seeking more than the current (death tax) exemption for couples up to $7 million?

Most people who identify with the GOP brand have several zeros less and they consistantly vote against their own interest. Talk about delusional.

But hey, you can't beat the GOPs salesmanship!

It would suit me to keep the death tax, and to repeal every single estate and trust designed to shelter money. Inherited money turns recipients into liberals. Bill Gates Foundation--gone. Warren Buffett's big tax evasion at death--poof! Rockefeller and Ford and Kennedy and Kerry and all those foundations--zippo.

When you die, you give it all back. Save the children from liberalism. Make it a $1mm exemption--that leaves out most small businesses--everything else gets taxed away.

and they consistantly vote against their own interest. Talk about delusional.

#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2010-03-05 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's not in my interest to punish the hard work and success of others.

That's where you and I differ; I have my own business and work hard every day. You sit on your ass and want to take away the wealth other people have created.

"Bill Gates Foundation--gone."

Yeah, the Gates foundation is just a tax dodge just like those others you mention.

"You sit on your ass and want to take away the wealth other people have created."

Actually I work hard every day helping the owners of the company I work for get a little richer. Of course though, they aren't greedy assholes who screw their employees out of every benefit, every nickel they can and so I and the rest of the crew enjoy helping them. Funny, I never hear them WHINING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH because they have to pay more tax than I do.

"You're on to me."

I have been for quite a while.

This is two countries. The hatred of the right for the left is worse than the hatred they feel for Osama. It gets more obvious every day--with every post from the right. Too badd they don't have the courage to just form their own country. There wouldn't be anyone who would stop them. Take the southern States, including Florida and Texas, just like the Civil War split. The splitting of countries has been done many times. The American Revolution is a prime example. The South never really was on board with the American concepts of Freedom and Justice for all, from day one. Even today, they consider themselves to be Southerners before they consider themselves to be Americans. Texans are even worse. The put Texas first--then the South--then America. No one on the right has ever given a valid reason to remain one country when they could have their own country.

Stop BB Stop!!

Don't go there!

lol

Another gasbag article from Paul...

*sigh*

another windbag that needs a clue.
#8 | Posted by KBM

As sure as the sun rises in the east at day's end and sets in the west at the start of a new day, to say Dems and Reps live in different universes is nothing but a bunch of raptorshit.
~ Michael "Stewball" Steal

Buffalo bullshit...

You need to wake up, man. Their has NEVER been the level of hated from the right to equal what has been thrown at Bush.

As for splitting the country? If you allow people a reasonable time to move, then I could support that.

All those who like right-to-work go south, all those who are union-only go north. If you have a job, move south... if you get welfare, move north.

A year after the split, everyone in the north would have died from starvation, riots and lawlessness... then we can recolonize.

Might take a while to get rid of the liberal stench, but I am sure that we hard-working types would manage.

And, if not, who needs places like Detriot anyway?

That dampness you're picking up? Either your rightoid wet dream was a (transient) success or one of the other kids put your hand in a bucket of warm water while you were skulking around the Land of Nod. In either case, just go back to sleep.

"The hatred of the right for the left is worse than the hatred they feel for Osama."

No, no, no...we don't hate the left. In fact, you and your little friends are damned entertaining, Boob. What would we do for amusement without y'all? The thing is, you're all a litle goofy with power if and when you get in office which doesn't happen often, thank God. We need an occassional four years with y'all running things every now and then just to remind us of how you can fuck things up. The problem with this administration is that we didn't know the actual number of clowns that would be occupying the White House and now that we've been shocked back to reality, we're starting the House cleaning. "House" cleaning...get it, Boob?...LOL. It's all OK, things will kinda settle in 2011 and get back to normal after 2012. THEN, you and your little friends can go back to your regular harmless comedy routines.

While both parties remain corporately overly-influenced the fact remains that the right side of the political spectrum both pols and their supporters have morally and intellectually bankrupted themselves while simultaneously economically bankrupting the country.

While Obama isn't doing enough by Spud's lights he's at least making some progress and taking steps in the right direction while the GOPhers seem to be continually wrong about practically everything.

It's all OK, things will kinda settle in 2011 and get back to normal after 2012.

LOL!

A return to GOP rule in 2012 would pretty much be the final nail in the coffin of American economic hegemony.

Be Well.

Actually I work hard every day helping the owners of the company I work for get a little richer. Of course though, they aren't greedy assholes who screw their employees out of every benefit, every nickel they can and so I and the rest of the crew enjoy helping them. Funny, I never hear them WHINING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH because they have to pay more tax than I do.

#12 | Posted by danni

They might not whine...

...but they might lay you off if their taxes...

...are raised.

Then who would be whining?

"...but they might lay you off if their taxes...

...are raised."

Actually, if their taxes were raised that would increase their incentive to keep me working so they could still deduct the business expense.
When all else fails the Republican defenders of the Bush tax cuts which have bankrupted America resort to the fear card as always.

Krugman is a hack like Al Gore and Obama, each receiving a Nobel prize from those numbskulls in Oslo. Krugman is starting to panic because he knows that starting in November his party will be out of power for generations and the GOP will ride their ass like a young bride.

"...but they might lay you off if their taxes...

...are raised."

Actually, if their taxes were raised that would increase their incentive to keep me working so they could still deduct the business expense.
When all else fails the Republican defenders of the Bush tax cuts which have bankrupted America resort to the fear card as always.

#24 | Posted by danni

ok

"While Obama isn't doing enough by Spud's lights..."

Pud should just spread his "lights" amongst his little Canadian friends and see if any of THEM much give a shit. Probably not...or you wouldn't be trying to impress the less well educated down here.

Incidently, I'm not at all proud of the GOP, in case you think I am. Both parties have been spending us into oblivion for decades in efforts to buy votes. The present administration, however, has doubled and tripled down on spending and sped up the trip to ruin at an unbelievable pace. I sincerely believe also, that Obama will be gone after 2012 and I can only HOPE that the dinosaurs have been thinned out in the House and Senate as well. Maybe with a couple of decades of TRULY conservative leadership we can get back on an even keel. Won't happen in MY lifetime though.

Forget what our clown politicians say. Consider only what they do (nothing in the Senate). Then the only conclusion one can draw is different color, red/blue, black/white, SAME SHIT.

Krugman correctly recognizes some differences in rhetoric, but not in two really important matters involving money and war. On that front, Washington has abandoned its people, for narrow selfish reasons.

"Bipartisanship is now a foolish dream."
Did you get that part, Mr. President? It's time to execute the will of the majority, repubes be damned.

The right is trying to justify being the pricks on this thread.

"... one party feels for the unemployed, while the other weeps over affluent victims of the 'death tax'?"

An over-simplification but it does essentially highlight the difference beween the two parties although all Republicans are not like Bunning, Cheney or Rove and some Democrats, in their own way, are just as bad. The perception though is that the Republicans are too much concerned for those Americans at the upper income levels at the expense of those Americans lower down while the Democrats view things the other way round.

The Estate Tax debate is a good example. Republicans say that it is unfair and that it is a horribly punitive tax that inhibits growth but since only 2% of the population pays tax on any of it, it's hard to figure out how when measured against the needs of the other 98% of the country. The Republican position is inconsisten when they say that extending unemployment benefits to millions of previously employed people now unemployed through no fault of their own is a disincentive for them and we can't afford it but extending inheritance benefits to people, many of whom did nothing but be lucky enough to be born fortunately, will incentivize them and we can afford that.

Democrats want to keep it at $3.5 million exemption and a 45% tax while Republicans want it to be $5 million and 35% and propagandize it as a Death Tax. Most people not demagogued to death would surely agree that an inflation adjusted $3.5 million on money that may have never been taxed in the first place and 45% on the remaining is fair.

I haven't seen recent polls on it but Bush era polls showed that most people agreed with the Republicans back then. Like many another Bush era policy that led us into today's mess this was presumably rejected in the 2008 landslide against most everything the Bush era GOP stood for.

"[W]hile the blockade [by GOP Sen. Jim Bunning] is over, its lessons remain," writes Nobel laureate Paul Krugman.

But what he doesn't say is........... If we keep going, unemployment bennifits will last until the person reaches the age of 70.

paul krugman
enron consultant

'nuff said"

Wonder how Krugman feels about 'saved or created' job numbers? Or is that "Created or Saved or Estimated or Assumed" jobs?

This Senate crap all started when we decided to allow direct election of Senators by the people. Founders wanted the states to choose their own reps, however the individual state wanted to do it.

By allowing the people to choose Representatives and Senators there is no practical difference between them.

How many people really know what the difference is between a Senator and a Representative?

...but they might lay you off if their taxes...

...are raised."

Actually, if their taxes were raised that would increase their incentive to keep me working so they could still deduct the business expense.
When all else fails the Republican defenders of the Bush tax cuts which have bankrupted America resort to the fear card as always.

#24 | Posted by danni

High tax jurisdictions actually attract employers looking to hire?

Who knew?

Looks like the POLS in Chicago were business geniuses after all...

...something else must have a caused the worst unemployment in the country then.

Just imagine how bad it would be in Chicago if the POLS hadn't thought to raise taxes to keep and attract more business?

that's right, Centrist suck.

#2, RiR, claiming the old boogey "women are hysterical", good on ya.

if you knew just how little weight what you think carries.

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I guess in your little world dok.

While Obama isn't doing enough by Spud's lights he's at least making some progress and taking steps in the right direction while the GOPhers seem to be continually wrong about practically everything.

#22 | Posted by dethspud

Since you live in Canada, who gives a shit what you think about little o.

YEAH SPUD...

how about obamas plan to take gas prices to seven bucks a gallon for GREEN jobs...
report out today...yeah buddy theres nothing to get all those delivery trucks out on the road like 7 bucks a gallon for gas and that will really get the economy and jobs going then wont it?????

YEAH SPUD...

how about obamas plan to take gas prices to seven bucks a gallon for GREEN jobs...
report out today...yeah buddy theres nothing to get all those delivery trucks out on the road like 7 bucks a gallon for gas and that will really get the economy and jobs going then wont it?????

#42 | Posted by afkabl2

There are some here that believe increased gasoline taxes...

...will provide more incentive to businesses to buy more gasoline.

Something about providing them with additional more tax deductions...

Will the pontification ever end. Yes, repubs don't get it, are immoral, are incapable of feeling, whine whine whine. When will the never ending stream of elitist condescending whining from the left ever stop. The libs do not need anyone from the right to enact their socialistic utopia -- it is amongst yourselves where there is stalemate. Please, do whatever you must and just stop the blaming and whining.

Krugman -- didn't he win an award from the same brain trust that gave one to Gore for global warming? It all starts to become clear ...

Krugman is another one of the Marxist "useful idiots."

What ever he writes, believe in the opposing point of view and you will be correct in your thinking.

Who's the money machine for the GOP? It's the Chamber of Commerce.

Who does the Chamber of Commerce represent? Small businesses.

So when a small business owner passes away, they don't want the death tax to get in the way.

This is why the Republicans constantly bring the death tax up, their voters are affected by it.

Everyone wants a Utopia.

Its just that conservatives understand that when Utopia is reliant on Big Governments, those same Governments always eventually run out of money.

In a microcosm, the comments on this thread prove Krugman's entire point. And of course, in keeping with these two universes, rightwingers will deny it and fail to recognize it.
On another level, what Krugman points out has been obvious for a long time. We see it articulated in different ways here on the DR all the time. (The most obvious being BBob's call for two countries.) The rightwing view of reality and the liberal view of reality are completely separate with little patience or respect for the other. Be it in politics, popular culture, science or core values, there is little middle ground remaining.

What a Load of Fertilizer...

Truth is..There isn't a Dimes Worth of Difference between the Democrats and the Republicans...

They are all OWNED..by the Special Interests/Banksters/Oligarchs that really run this country

Glen2gs: Wouldn't you agree that Dems and Republicans totally disagree on healthcare reform? Wouldn't you agree that they are on polar opposite sides of the GW phenomena? Wouldn't you agree that on an array of issues including taxes, job creation and corporate regulation their positions are pretty much incompatible? If you stop to think it through honestly, how can you say there is no difference between them? That sounds like empty rhetoric.