What the hell. Both were mental midgets. If they're going to pick a leader from the last century, FDR would be better.

What, is Grant chopped liver or something ??

"In polls of presidential scholars, Reagan consistently outranks Grant..."

Is that supposed to be a joke?

Its just a distraction and a time waster. McHenry knows this.

I guess if you're a Republican congressman from North Carolina, getting Reagan on the fifty is the best use of your time.

I agree Hag, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I don't think anyone is complaining about the $50 bill. Also, considering the way the economy is and the fact that people use less and less cash every day, I doubt most people ever see a $50 bill. It's been years since I've seen one.

When you consider that in a few years the dollar will be even more worthless than now, why not wait and put Reagans face in a $5,0000 or $10,000 bill?

Put him on the $3 bill to match his trickle down theories. Isn't a statue to him in Tehran's Useful Infidels Square enough?

This is a slippery slope.... you put Ronnie on the fifty and Zombie Bonzo is going to demand top billing again, his face on a hundred.

"They'll more than likely put massabama on a food stamp in fitty years. Quit your whining!"

101

Ummmm......NO! No discussion. No debate. No chance.

If they put Obama on a bill they'd have to use a darker shade of green I'd imagine.

Grant was just a drunk. I vote for Reagan.

Put the SOB on a prommisory note!

Leave things as they are...no modern day President comes close to the ones on current bills...

as for Oboner, they can name the welfare programs after him, as they will be his 'largest' accomplishment..!!

I vote for barney frank to be on the 3 dollar bill.

And obama with chris matthews humping his leg like a chihuahua to be on the 2 trillion dollar bill.
Welcome to the obamanation of desolation, the latest banana republic, only second to cuba and venezuela.

Tutamen Deus

Put the SOB (Reagan) on a prommisory note!

#16 | Posted by Mista Kurtz

Right on!

If they're going to pick a leader from the last century, FDR would be better.

#1 | POSTED BY RON_KARATE

With the recent crashes the dollar has seen it kind of makes sense to put Ol' Noodle Legs on a bill...

Grant was just a drunk. I vote for Reagan.

#15 | Posted by fwthom

Who spent the last few years of his Presidency counting jelly beans

They are putting Obama's mug on the new addition Monopoly money.

If they're going to pick a leader from the last century, FDR would be better.

#1 | POSTED BY RON_KARATE

Best idea yet

"Grant was just a drunk."

So was Sam Houston.

"Tell me what brand of whiskey that Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals."
~Lincoln

Reagan was an Alzheimer's-addled idiot; Living proof that the majority of Americans are idiots.

I say Nixon

Does anyone else remember Regan's radio programs of the early 60's?

"It's all so simple."

Sure Ron.

"Facts are stupid things."

Sure Ron.

"The bombing begins in five minutes."

Fucking brilliant, Ron.

Best idea yet

#23 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Would Democrats really support putting FDR on our more commonly used currency after he imprisoned Japanese Americans simply because of the their ethnicity and carpet bombed German and Japanese cities killing thousands and thousands of civilians?

I would, but would you guys? That seems hypocritical given criticisms of a fairly recent president.

Living proof that the majority of Americans are idiots.

#25 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI AT 2010-03-03 06:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Why doesn't anyone ever come to my birthday parties :(

The huge new medical complex here at UCLA is called the Ronald Reagan Memorial Hospital. It is gigantic! Given how liberal UCLA is, this might seem a strange name choice to some. But actually, it was a smart fundraising move by the University in terms of getting donations from a wide array of rightwing people and businesses which might normally never donate a cent to the hospital. (Kind of like slapping pictures of Dora the Explorer or Hannah Montana on little girls pink lunchboxes.)

ROB

We'd never been in the situation we were in after Pearl. Live and learn.

FDR was the glue that held this country together through a Depression and world war.

PS: Roosevelt didn't start any wars, unlike that 'recent President' you just alluded to.

PSS: Roosevelt won two world wars while CiC in less time than the one the President you alluded to did.

The Manhattan Project and plans to use the A-bomb on Japan if they didn't surrender were in the queue before Truman took over.

IMO, the A-bomb saved millions of Japanese lives that would have been lost if we'd have had to invade. They were already sending 12 and 13-year-olds to their deaths.

#30 | Posted by moder8

I like flying into 'National Airport' a lot better.

Great Idea. The president who brought us Chesterfield Cigarettes. Truly a great American.

We'd never been in the situation we were in after Pearl. Live and learn.

Sorry but that smacks of partisanship. Roosevelt had thousands of Americans imprisoned for no reason except that they were Japanese. With the screaming fits Democrats have over Gitmo and the way they lose their shit whenever the hint of profiling comes up what Roosevelt did should be unforgivable.

And on top of that is the carpet bombing of cities that probably didn't need to be completely annihilated.

I agree with everything Roosevelt did, but then again, I haven't spent the last ten years crying for Arab Muslims and our tactics on the battlefield.

"PSS: Roosevelt won two world wars while CiC in less time than the one the President you alluded to did.
The Manhattan Project and plans to use the A-bomb on Japan if they didn't surrender were in the queue before Truman took over.
IMO, the A-bomb saved millions of Japanese lives that would have been lost if we'd have had to invade. They were already sending 12 and 13-year-olds to their deaths.

#32 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2010-03-03 06:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG:
"

Hey Biden, Wilson was president during WW1 not FDR

Germany and Japan were both given the option of unconditional surrender years before they did in submission.

Have we rounded up and imprisoned most Arabs in America just for their ethnicity? No, we haven't.

AmericanUnity can you admit that if a President today imprisoned thousands of innocent Americans today because of their skin color, religion or ethnicity you'd be calling for their impeachment?

BTW, interesting (to me) I read last night in a new book:

Himmler carried a Turkish-bound copy of Bhagavad Gita and regularly gave speeches to NAZI generals that lasted 3+ hours.

AmericanUnity can you admit that if a President today imprisoned thousands of innocent Americans today because of their skin color, religion or ethnicity you'd be calling for their impeachment?

After the lessons of the 1940's, sure.

Any comparison to Roosevelt isn't credible. Different times. Non starter.

"Ok.
OK.
Oh-flippin-kay, alright?
Let's put Reagan on the fifty.
One condition: this picture is the one that'll be used.

#11 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2010-03-03 01:12 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Ah,, cute!! Ron is feeding Barry the Chimp

After the lessons of the 1940's, sure.
Any comparison to Roosevelt isn't credible. Different times. Non starter.

#40 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I could argue that like Pearl Harbor we had never seen an event the likes of 9/11 and therefore Bush gets a pass. Now after the lessons of the 2000s we know better.

Roosevelt imprisoned a ton of innocent men and women simply because they had slanty eyes. I see no way today's Democrats can see Roosevelt as anything but a war criminal.

Well, ROB, since the 19 hijackers were Saudi, imprisoning all Saudis would have been the thing to do, no? Attack Saudi Arabia, no? Didn't Bush give special permission for a planeload of Saudis to leave the U.S. when other flights were banned?

Call me crazy, but if we were going to attack an entire country for the actions of a few, Saudi Arabia would have been the logical choice. That's if your premise were logical to begin with.

BTW, ROB, Pearl Harbor was an act of war by a nation. 9/11 the act of a few civilians from a nation.

RobAHole: The internment program by FDR was the single greatest error of his presidency. By any Constitutional standards it was an abhorrent act. Pretty much every honest observer agrees. When evaluating the Presidency and contributions of FDR it is of course important to note that important failure. But having noted it, it would be a mistake to focus solely on that one very bad decision to the point that his truly monumental accomplishments as commander and chief are overlooked.

Well, ROB, since the 19 hijackers were Saudi, imprisoning all Saudis would have been the thing to do, no? Attack Saudi Arabia, no?

Well for starters I think you might want to fact check that statement... the majority were saudi, but I don't believe they all were.

I'm not here defending the Bush Administration, I'm here asking how today's Democrats can support a man who took thousands of innocent Americans and imprisoned them. You can say that he gets a pass because of pearl harbor but I'm 99% a lot of the Rights Americans are guaranteed were written before December 7, 1941.

Sorry, there is no way for today's Democrats to support Roosevelt.

ROB

All 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia

And civilians

But having noted it, it would be a mistake to focus solely on that one very bad decision to the point that his truly monumental accomplishments as commander and chief are overlooked.

#45 | POSTED BY MODER8

I 100% agree with this statement. I think FDR is without question a top 10 president and could probably argue for top 5. That doesn't excuse the fact that what happened was absolutely against a whole bunch of laws and constitutional rights.

Are you guys honestly making the argument that today's democrats wouldn't be calling for his impeachment after he rounded up Americans and put them in jail based on their ethnicity alone? Really? I understand he did a lot of things that Leftists love that are still around today, but he was a war criminal right?

Sorry, there is no way for today's Democrats to support Roosevelt.

Even my staunch Republican parents supported Roosevelt. He was the glue who held together and saved this country in many ways. One mistake does not ruin a Presidency - especially with no precedent beforehand to call the imprisonment of West Coast Japanese into question.

I'd suggest you go to an old folks home and ask them what they think of Roosevelt.

RobAHole: #46: You may be correct. It may well be that in this modern era, knowing what we know and having experienced all we have experienced over the last seventy years, most Democrats would not suppoprt FDR in light of the Internment policy. It was different (arguably less 'enlightened') time in our history when all that occurred. Back then liberals in good faith could mute their criticism to the policy. That could not be the case today. But having said that, if FDR were miraculously able to have the wisdom/experience of the past seventy years back in 1941, I deeply doubt FDR would have sanctioned the Internments.

To put Ronald Reagan on any BILL is a JOKE!!! Ronald Reagan is a Racist, one who opposed the CIVIL RIGHTS an VOTING RIGHTS BILLS, in the mid 1960's. One who when he decided to run for President started his run in PHILADELPHIA, MISSISSIPPI. The place where THREE Voting Rights
advocates were KILLED attempting to get African Americans the right to vote. Nothing in Politics at the Presidential level is done by accident, this was a RACIST ACT, BY THIS FUCKING MORON!!!!! An by people who ran his campaign.....

In the past 50 years no other President has grown the Federal Government as has RONALD REAGAN. All the while running to make Government smaller. The Mantra of the Republican Party, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, this Fuck did the opposite an those clown on Fox treat him like a Savior!!!!

This Bullshit will not stop, next year RONNIE BABY would have been 100 years old an those Fox-Republicans will be out every day trying to change History an saying nothing about REAGAN SELLING ARM TO TERRIORIST(FUCKER SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED FOR THAT ALONE)....Plus his Racist Past....HYPROCRIT!!!

ROB
All 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia

#47 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

One mistake does not ruin a Presidency

Watergate?

I'd suggest you go to an old folks home and ask them what they think of Roosevelt.

#50 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I've never said the people from that generation didn't support him or that he wasn't important to him.

I'm saying there is no way TODAY'S Democrats can support him... Okay, well they can, but they're hypocrites if they do.

(Celisary: Honest, non-snarky criticism. If you are going to type an invective in large letters and follow it with multiple exclamation points, make sure you spell the word correctly. The word is "hypocrite", not "hypocrit". May not seem like a big deal, but it actually makes your anger seem juvenile and knee jerk.)

Celisary you're last post made me love Reagan even more! I never knew any of that about him... Reagan ruled!!

Did Roosevelt preemptively invade Japan or Germany? No, he didn't. Did he resist getting us involved in Europe until the first attack by the Axis powers on U.S. soil? Yes, he did.

Did Bush invade the right country, if the premise we should have invaded the country 19 civilians and their masterminds came from were even valid? No.

One mistake does not ruin a Presidency

Watergate?

#54 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Roosevelt trying to protect a nation and Nixon trying to protect his own ass are two entirely different things.

AU, I'm not here defending Bush. I'm not even talking about him. Bush has nothing to do with this. Except that if he went around the country rounding up Arab-Americans like FDR rounded up Japanese-Americans, the Demcrats would be screaming for impeachment.

There is no way you or pretty much any other Democrat can say they are a fan of FDR given the past 10 years or so of Bush bashing. Sorry, the only label you guys can put on FDR is "war criminal."

Roosevelt trying to protect a nation

How does rounding up tens of thousands of innocent AMERICANS protect AMERICA?

if the premise we should have invaded the country 19 civilians and their masterminds came from were even valid? No.

The 19 hijackers were not all from Saudi Arabia.

AQ's number 2, Ayman Al Zawahiri, is Egyptian

The "Mastermind" of the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was born in Kuwait and his parents were Pakistani.

Whatever you say, ROB. Somehow you see logic in your premise. I don't for the reasons given.

Whatever you say, ROB. Somehow you see logic in your premise.

Can you just answer me how taking thousands of innocent Americans and locking them in interment (nice way of saying concentration) camps protects America?

ROB

See the difference between 'the 19 hijackers' and any other participants or planners? You know, the 19 'hijackers' who actually 'hijacked' the planes?

See the difference between 'the 19 hijackers' and any other participants or planners? You know, the 19 'hijackers' who actually 'hijacked' the planes?
#65 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Huh?

Can you just answer me how taking thousands of innocent Americans and locking them in interment (nice way of saying concentration) camps protects America?

#64 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Yawn

Yawn

#67 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

If you don't have an answer and can't explain why its okay to imprison thousands of innocent Americans, no trials, no lawyers, no juries just be a man and say so.

See the difference between 'the 19 hijackers' and any other participants or planners? You know, the 19 'hijackers' who actually 'hijacked' the planes?

#65 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Huh?

#66 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Answer honestly: Are you drunk? Extremely sleep deprived? LOL Anything but a 'Yes' will not be taken as a serious reply.

Guess I'll go watch the shrimp broil.

Answer honestly: Are you drunk? Extremely sleep deprived? LOL Anything but a 'Yes' will not be taken as a serious reply.
Guess I'll go watch the shrimp broil.

#69 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I didn't understand your question. I've read it several times and just don't get it. All 19 hijackers were not from Saudi Arabia, and at the time 2 of the top 3 AQ leaders were not from Saudi Arabia. So I don't get the question.

AU: You understand, don't you, that not all the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?

AU: I don't want to make a big deal about it, but you are mistaken about the nationalities of the 19 actual hijackers. Many were from Saudi Arabia. Not all.

Reagan on money?

What a joke!

Who wants to wipe their ass with money?

I think toilet paper would be more appropriate.

Someone already had the right idea:

ROB

You're right. I just checked. Only 15 of the 19 were from SA. I stand corrected.

Did Bush invade the right country, if the premise we should have invaded the country 19 civilians and their masterminds came from were even valid? No.

You are crossing the streams... show me where Bush invaded Iraq because he thought the mastermind behind 911 was there.

Of course, using the logic oft posted above regarding the japanese internment camps, Lincoln's whole legacy as a president should be thrown out because he suspended Habeus Corpus! Throw the bum off the $5 bill!!

And, I doubt you will find anyone in the Dem party NOT saying what happened was wrong in terms of the internment camps, though it IS interesting that the ONLY person writing that the camps were a good thing is the right wing writer Michelle Malkin!

Reagan was transformative alright.....as he ushered in the rise of the emerging countries such as China and India at the expense of the USA. We are seeing for the first time in history a decline in the US middle class and the blame can be laid at the feet of the free traders and trickle down philosophy.

Put Reagan's face on something that represents the decline of the USA so we can all remember exactly what he has done to our nation.

What? Reagan? Half the time the guy was asleep and just delegated authority and casually signed off on junk.

A lot of folks credit Reagan for the defeat of communism and the break up of the Soviet Union. That wasn't Reagan so much as the Sov's were simply outspent. They'd of caved eventially and old Reagan just happened to be the dog in the white house at that time.

But beyond that MOST of the financial meltdown we have today and the junk media we have can be directly traced to Reagan and his deregulation circus.

About the only thing appropriate for Reagan is to just put his face on an I.O.U!

Besides, what are they gonna call it? Series 'ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
?

#75 | Posted by bph320

Fighting Al Qaeda there was reason #19 after the first 18 didn't work out.

FDR was a great man, and a great but not a perfect president. Grant was a great man, but not a good president at all.

Let's see what people think of Reagan at least twenty-five years after he's dead. Lack of administrative ability aside, however, it's already clear Grant did much more for the Union than Reagan could dream.

Grant keeps the $50 as far as I'm concerned.

" But actually, it was a smart fundraising move by the University in terms of getting donations from a wide array of rightwing people and businesses which might normally never donate a cent to the hospital."

Fuck that. UCLA doesn't need any hospital named after Reagan. Reagan didn't give a shit about public health or private healthcare or anything else that didn't affect him or his cronies.

"Reagan didn't give a shit about public health"

It's interesting he nominated Koop, who was arguably one of the better Surgeons General, but Koop quit.

Compared to now we were damn near out of debt when you fools elected Reagan.

One reason Koop quit was that Reagan and his staff were completely happy to not confront AIDS for five full years. He said the attitude around the WH was "it's a gay and IV drug user disease. They get what they deserve."

About the only thing appropriate for Reagan is to just put his face on an I.O.U!

#78 | Posted by Massai

Actually, since Reagan contributed strongly to our paper money into an I.O.U. to foreign owners, maybe putting his face on it isn't such a stretch.

Takin' a Dump an Thinkin of You Ronnie!!!

Make It Manditory to put Ronald Reagan's Face on Paper.....Toilet Paper that is!!!!!

Reagan was one of the best Presidents this country has ever had.

The Alzheimer President, who really got the war on the middle class going.

Remember Eisenhower, he tried to save us, but we wouldn't listen.

Mchenry is an idiot. He uses this to rouse the rabble in this neck of the woods.

why not wait and put Reagan's face in a $5,0000 or $10,000 bill?

So true my friend... wait until a loaf of bread is $149.95 put Reagan on the 5000 dollar note and Bush 2 on the 10,000 dollar note. On the back of the Bush note, instead of in God We Trust they could put."Do You Miss Me Yet?"

Hold on folks the real shit storm isn't even here yet.....

ROB

You're right. I just checked. Only 15 of the 19 were from SA. I stand corrected.

#74 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY - FLAG: argues for hours without actual facts

Reagan on the Fitty? Feh!!

It's all about Taft, babies!

He was a sex machine to all the chicks!

Sorry, wot's that?

Spud being informed that he's mixing up Taft with Private Detective John Shaft again.

An easy mistake to make, really.

Never mind.

Be Well.

I just want some $50 bills....don't care who is on it....

Dap has a good point. A few dozen fifties would be nice...

Reagan was an Alzheimer's-addled idiot; Living proof that the majority of Americans are idiots.

#25 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2010-03-03 06:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

And you're at the head of the line. Reagan did have Alzheimer's to blame for his lapses in memory and judgement, what's your excuse?

How's the pool temp ZAT?

Just out of curiosity (and for the moment sidestepping the issue of whether Reagan deserves to be put on the 50 or not), why do we have to take Grant off? Why can't we have two series of 50 dollar bills, one with Grant, one with Reagan?

from near the top...

In polls of presidential scholars, Reagan consistently outranks Grant..."

Amongst Republicans ONLY...

most Democrats view him with a slightly
less enamoured point of view...

Reagan did some good things, but at the
time, he also gave us the largest deficit
by far of any President that had come
before. In fact, larger than ALL of the
Presidents that had come before...

personally if he's put on the 50 that will
be a good reason for me to stop using them...
the 20 and the Benny shall suffice.

this is just more Revisionist History Editing
done by the G.O.P. to try to make young kids look
up to them...most adults know better...

What is the point of a Fifty dollar bill?

"What is the point of a Fifty dollar bill?"
#98 | Posted by sitdown at 2010-03-04 10:54 AM | Reply

Well, when I pay for a loaf of bread with a 1,000 dollar bill, it makes the change a lot easier to manage...

Yeah and people in hell want ice water. Chances are about equal.

FDR provoked Japan into a war. There's enough history and "released long after the war" records to show that the US was taking steps that was a provocation.

FDR's programs didn't get us out of a depression.

It was Amendment XXI which did it in 1933.

"It was Amendment XXI which did it in 1933."

Riiight.

"It was Amendment XXI which did it in 1933."

Riiight.

Reagan's portrait should be placed on ketchup bottles.
After all, Reagan and ketchup are both types of vegetables.

"After all, Reagan and ketchup are both types of vegetables."

FF on that one.

What? Ray-gun?
Shoulda nominated nancy's astrologer...SHE was the one making policy during the 1980s.