Assclown.

Bunning wanted to force Democrats to find ways to finance the bill so that it wouldn't add to the deficit

Exactly what was wrong with paying for it from unspent TARP funds, like he wanted? Reid is totally without blame in this scenario?

Headline should be "Bunning's Cunning Stunt"

Bunning is your typical loser republican.

#5 | POSTED BY JACKASS

Yeah, your typical loser republican that stood up to the majority of his own party and made damn sure the media covered exactly how congress feels about borrowing money. I don't see the problem here.

Where was Jim Bunning when his president was pissing away billions on a bullsit war Cheez-whiz?

Being a little bitch. So what if it takes not running to grow balls, at least he did something.

Ah Cheez-whiz. You're such an Alaskan retard.

What?

Bunning was just trying to make himself look like a bigshot instead he made himself look like a foolish ass. This is typical behavior for republicans. Especially a guy that calls himself cheese whiz.

You're such an Alaskan retard.

Speaking of Alaskan retards. One on NBC right now.

Bunning was just trying to make himself look like a bigshot instead he made himself look like a foolish ass. This is typical behavior for republicans. Especially a guy that calls himself cheese whiz.

Jackass... calls me a foolish ass! Comedy Gold!

Bunning was just trying to make himself look like a bigshot instead he made himself look like a foolish ass.

I think The Ass has nailed it right here...

I know, I know...

#11 | Posted by jackass

That last one needed a post citation to make sense.

You guys are projecting a motive on the man. Unless you are part of his inner circle you have no idea why he did this and no reason not to take his words at face value. So, at worst he delayed passage of the bill by a couple of days and called attention to just how willing both R's and D's are to ignore their own rules when it comes to spending. I just don't see the problem.

" Unless you are part of his inner circle "

Pinkie is extended on the handshake.

You should totally be a comedy writer.

Get me that pitch and I'll nail it.

Oh, no doubt.

Just like most Congressional Republicans, Bunning just saw Jesus and became a deficit hawk.

This after he served in the GOP majority while they grew government and the national debt to the largest in world history all by themselves.

He had the audacity to say he'd be checking off 'hypocrites' off his list. Hope he started with himself.

This after he served in the GOP majority while they grew government and the national debt to the largest in world history all by themselves.

So, you're saying that Obama has shrunk government? He's lowered the debt?

Your, and others who think like you, inability to see politics in a fluid motion just amaze me. Everything resets to "0" at the changing of the Presidency for you. The initial after the winners name is the deciding factor in how you will argue your politics for the next 4 years. Kinda pathetic, if you were to ask me. So don't ask.

Politicians are hypocrites, no shit! Never would've guessed...

Still, what's the problem? Even if he did it for the most selfish reasons imaginable, still looks like a net positive to me. Now, if the real problem is that he has an R after his name, one would do well to remember that the Republicans hardly have the market cornered on being greedy, lying, corporate cock sucking, hypocrites.

Exactly what was wrong with paying for it from unspent TARP funds, like he wanted? Reid is totally without blame in this scenario?

Other than wanting to use Stimulus funds, not TARP funds, nothing.

Yeah, your typical loser republican that stood up to the majority of his own party and made damn sure the media covered exactly how congress feels about borrowing money. I don't see the problem here.

Stood up and lost. Even that wasn't really based on any principles that Jim Bunning has. He's not running for re-election, so he can finally take on the appearance of being a principled man. He's a hypocrite. He should be taken out in shackles like the rest of the hypocrites.

Then, we can put them in the stocks and throw fruit and vegetables a them. One American at a time. Jim Bunning gets to go first.

just how willing both R's and D's are to ignore their own rules when it comes to spending

Jim Bunning voted against Pay-As-You-Go. Was this development of a conscious over a long period of time or did it occur when a democrat was elected to the Presidency?

Mr. Bunning was a much better pitcher than a Senator and a human being....

Axiom,
Your point is that even though using the stimulus money was the right thing to do, Bunning was wrong to bring it up because he's not pure of heart? And you're basing this on a projection of motive, right? Although hurling veg at congress sounds appealing, Bunning goes first because he finally manned up and did something correctly? So, everyone in congress should just keep their heads down and continue to vote to screw the American people, because that's what they've always done and to change that is worthy of ridicule. Sounds like a totally reasonable plan. D=GOOD, R=BAD 2010, just so long as we keep blowing up brown people and spending China's money, whoo-hoo!

"He should be taken out in shackles like the rest of the hypocrites.'

Just curious who is the bigger hypocrite? The Majority leader who presented the paygo legislation? Or the POTUS who signed the paygo legislation? Seeing as was it passed a couple of weeks ago and the first bill to come up subsequently violated that legislation, who has more egg on their face?

another FUCKED headline..
he MADE The goddamn democrats show themsleves for the lying hypocritical fuckers they are...

here's hoping that EVERYTIME some dickhead democrat tries to pull shit like this that a republican stops them and makes them come up with a way to pay for it..

and THEN after november 2, 2010...the gop better goddamn not do the same fuckin thing

#29 | Posted by afkabl2

thanks doc...just the image made me feel better..

I did sort of have a potty mouth now that I look back at it

so to all of you offended people by such language who I know just are so tender and sweet and would NEVER even think of using such language..
I apologize if I offended any of you by talking about the godda** demorats M**herf*ckers..

*...see that means that I didnt REALLY call them that..remember...LOL

You sound calmer. And your pupils are returning to near normal. I'd say we've made some progress today. Please see Nurse Ratched on your way out and set up your next appointment.

Your point is that even though using the stimulus money was the right thing to do, Bunning was wrong to bring it up because he's not pure of heart?

No. My point is that Jim Bunning tossed the word Hypocrite around like it was fucking parade candy and he forgot to point the finger at himself.

And you're basing this on a projection of motive, right? Although hurling veg at congress sounds appealing, Bunning goes first because he finally manned up and did something correctly?

Bunning goes first because it took him this long to finally man up and do the right thing.

So, everyone in congress should just keep their heads down and continue to vote to screw the American people, because that's what they've always done and to change that is worthy of ridicule. Sounds like a totally reasonable plan. D=GOOD, R=BAD 2010, just so long as we keep blowing up brown people and spending China's money, whoo-hoo!

Nice attempt at assigning me a label. You're new here, so I'll forgive you for not realize that I have zero affiliation with either political party. It's called cynicism. See, I don't think any politician in office is capable of doing anything honest. Time and time again, I've been proven right by their actions.

Jim Bunning has nothing to lose, at this point, by bucking the system. He is the patsy for Republican obstructionism.

As a self-described libertarian, I find it humorous that you're defending Bunning's epiphany so near the end of his political career. Are you one of those libertarians that became a libertarian because it's so unpopular to be a republican?

Just curious who is the bigger hypocrite? The Majority leader who presented the paygo legislation? Or the POTUS who signed the paygo legislation? Seeing as was it passed a couple of weeks ago and the first bill to come up subsequently violated that legislation, who has more egg on their face?

More? I argue they have equal amount of egg on their face.

thanks.....until next time.....and dont forget that I dont lay on the couch with no pants on like all of your other male patients...

here's hoping that EVERYTIME some dickhead democrat tries to pull shit like this that a republican stops them and makes them come up with a way to pay for it..

They didn't stop them.

The obstructionism wasn't based on any principles. It was based on politics for ammo to point at later on and say "see there, we toldja".

fucking sheep.

Or the POTUS who signed the paygo legislation? Seeing as was it passed a couple of weeks ago and the first bill to come up subsequently violated that legislation, who has more egg on their face?

first time was FOUR DAYS after barry signed it..the original jobs bill from reid was not paid for as I understand it.

these asses dont care about any of that...they ALL make laws they have no intention of following.

thats not right axiom..

this HOPEFULLY is the first one that comes up EVERYTIME a democrat tries to pull this shit.
its the DEMS who wanted to spend MORE money we dont have in order to protect votes..
and I say they kept this going longer for PURE political reasons because of so many people who only know what katy curik tells them...

and it amazed me when his vote on paygo is broughtup like that makes some sort of fuckin difference....so now dems are going to tell you that you cant vote someway because of a law THEY PASSED but based on your vote on it.
thats just silly

not sure I explained my position in that last paragraph

it doesnt make any difference if he voted against paygo...when NOW he just made the DEMS actaully abide by THIER LAW..

it doesnt make any difference if he voted against paygo...when NOW he just made the DEMS actaully abide by THIER LAW..

can you point out where in the article, or anywhere else for that matter, that it states that the democrats decided to use stimulus money to pay for the measure?

You can't because he didn't.

That means his grandstanding was for naught.

Am1st

Take what I type literally. The "so, you're saying..." is just a convenient way of ignoring why we're running massive deficits.

Had the GOP actually done what they said they stood for when they had the whole enchilada we wouldn't have a national debt or be running deficits right now.

But, of course now that the Dems are in power suddenly deficits are all their fault. Hogwash. Clinton left a plan to pay off the national debt. He never proposed one multitrillion dollar unfunded program or tax cut after another that required us to borrow the money.

Obama's frozen discretionary spending, government salaries, and ordered by Executive Order a 'Deficit Commission' the GOP were for before they were against it.

"No. My point is that Jim Bunning tossed the word Hypocrite around like it was fucking parade candy and he forgot to point the finger at himself."

Soooo.... He's not pure of heart, right?

"Bunning goes first because it took him this long to finally man up and do the right thing."

As opposed to the people continuing to do the wrong thing?

"Nice attempt at assigning me a label. You're new here, so I'll forgive you for not realize that I have zero affiliation with either political party. It's called cynicism. See, I don't think any politician in office is capable of doing anything honest. Time and time again, I've been proven right by their actions.
Jim Bunning has nothing to lose, at this point, by bucking the system. He is the patsy for Republican obstructionism. "

By worrying about the man and not the act, you've allowed yourself a justification for supporting the status quo. Thus assigning yourself a "position". I could give two shits if Bunning did this because he thought it would cause a rise in baby seal clubbings and rectal bleeding, it's a positive thing to have the TV cameras on when our elected officials give us the finger.

"As a self-described libertarian, I find it humorous that you're defending Bunning's epiphany so near the end of his political career. Are you one of those libertarians that became a libertarian because it's so unpopular to be a republican?"

You find it humorous that a libertarian would support using money we already borrowed as opposed to borrowing more, really? As for my voting record, never voted republican outside of local elections and voted dem more often than big "L" Libertarian for Pres.

Please quit puffing out your chest and acting like you're the first person to discover that men who aspire to power tend to not be good people. That's exactly the type of bullshit emotional response that keeps ANY progress from happening. Small victories are better than none.

Doc- got any Novocaine or vicodin? Just reading the Rethugs here defend this political grandstanding crap gives me a headache!

axiom
did I say the money was coming from tarp...or did I suggest that or stimulus..since we NOW KNOW 300 billion is going overseas including to CHINA..
I mean are thier workers more important than OURS?????????

I hope he is only the FIRST one to do this and make the dems ACCOUNTABLE>...with the consent asked of him,, NONE OF THE DEMS would have had to justify MORE spending on the 'charge card' when they JUST bragged about thier paygo law...

I just dont see how you libs can be SO BLIND AND PARTISAN To this shit..

and make NO MISTAKE about it...as I have already said..
IF gop does this after this..then they are fuckers too...........

same question to you donner

how can you justify FOUR DAYS after signing this into law..dems trying to ignore it
as bunning himslef said

if not now

when?

AU,

You're basically saying that because the republicans fucked up royally, that the best response is for the democrats to continue to do the exact same shit?

Doc- got any Novocaine or vicodin? Just reading the Rethugs here defend this political grandstanding crap gives me a headache!
I feel like I have just been Bunninged!
#43 | Posted by donnerboy

Join the club, Donner, but you'll have to take a number!

same question to you donner

how can you justify FOUR DAYS after signing this into law..dems trying to ignore it
as bunning himslef said....

AFKBABBLE - do you even know what you are asking? So to pass this bill we would have to cut spending somewhere else. Do you even know who is first on the list to be cut?

Medicare.

"If the uniform percentage calculated under the prior sentence exceeds 4 percent, the Medicare programs described in section 256(d) of BBEDCA shall be reduced by 4 percent and the uniform percentage by which the budgetary resources of all other nonexempt direct spending programs are to be sequestered shall be increased, as necessary, so that the sequestration of Medicare and of all other nonexempt direct spending programs together produce the required outlay savings."

Now if the first thing to be cut was salaries of Members of Congress, the President and his Cabinet and Administration or maybe the Bankers that made billions off of the taxpayer's backs then I would be all for it.

This is an emergency situation. This is an extension of current benefits and funding to hard working Americans who are out of work through no fault of their own and existing pay check to pay check.

They are living on the edge and you want to play games with their lives.

Disgusting...you have lost your way.

When you are lost and confused and faced with a tough decision and don't know what to do anymore ask yourself this question:

What would a REASONABLE PERSON DO IN THIS SITUATION?

What you are asking Congress to do is not reasonable in this situation BL2.

"If not now when?"

You know it is so funny that you RETHUGS are all up in arms about this.

Let me ask you a question.

How many Republicans even voted for PAYGO?

...and with that, Aflakbibblebabble's head exploded and made a godawful mess in the Kiddies Reading Shack in Looneyville's Small Animal (Rodent) Meat Locker, Amonia Refueling Depot, Mentholatum Suppositorium & Libarry.

You're basically saying that because the republicans fucked up royally, that the best response is for the democrats to continue to do the exact same shit?

#46 | Posted by ChezWegro

I said exactly what I typed.

Think about it; $700 Billion of this year's deficit is debt service, $150 Billion Medicare Part D, $200+ Billion Bush income tax cuts on the wealthy, $150 Billion Capitol Gains tax reduction, the Iraq War, the unfinished Afghanistan war (8 years on), several hundred billion loss of revenue from recession, and so on.

Now, to blame Democrats for deficits that wouldn't have been without all that unfunded legislation the GOP rammed through is disingenuous at best.

Donner,

The democrats pass a bill requiring accountable spending, but include language that requires overages to be taken from medicare first, effectively giving themselves an excuse to ignore their own law, and the only problem here is with the republicans? That's the best you've got... wow.

AU

The only honest thing to do is blame both parties. Republicans ran up huge deficits(some of it with the help of a dem congress!), but the Democrats are not only continuing the shit policy of the the previous eight years, but piling more on. So, fuck what you think you're saying... what it boils down to is, war is ok for Obama but not for Bush, deficit spending is ok for Obama but not for Bush, foxes guarding the hen house is ok for Obama but not for Bush, torture is ok for Obama but not for Bush... you get the point.

We have to finish what we started in Afghanistan or it'll be what it was pre-9/11. You know that.

Most of the deficit for FY 2010 is directly because of GOP policies of borrowing to pay for legislation that didn't really benefit anyone but those at the tip top of our income ladder.

It's been said too many times here: Clinton left a plan to pay OFF the national debt by last year. Instead we're paying $700 Billion a year on that ALONE.

Obama HAS to do deficit budgets. The GOP did NOT have to.

They were handed surplus budgets, but chose to enact tax cuts that required trillions in borrowing, a pitifully planned "$50 Billion War" that's cost us $2 Trillion, and other unfunded legislation like Medicare Part D.

To hear them NOW whining about the deficits we wouldn't have without their actions is pitiful.

BTW, Afghanistan was back to 80% control by the Taliban when Obama was sworn in. That war was poorly fought too so they Bush WH could have their debacle in Iraq. The "$50 Billion/6 month" war that lasted years, cost 4000 American and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and cost trillions because of their bumbling arrogance.

ONLY because of the 2006 elections was Bush forced to fire Rumsfeld and change course rather than 'stay the course' as they'd done far too long.

"Forgetfulness" is a real problem with Republicans.

Had the GOP actually done what they said they stood for when they had the whole enchilada we wouldn't have a national debt or be running deficits right now, and had the Democrats stuck with Pay-Go like they said they would when got power back, we might well be on way to reducing the debt.

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-03-03 01:43 PM

One more time; Bunning = Crotch Pheasant.

It's impossible to finish what we started in Afghanistan and no matter when we leave it's going to go back to at least the way it was pre-9/11, probably worse the longer we stay. Remember, the Taliban came to power as a response to our dicking around in their country. Took power with weapons we gave them, too. Sneaky little bastards. They did do a good job of making sure we had to get our smack from Latin America though, got to give them some credit for that.

Clinton deserves credit for his work on the debt. But, let's face it, he achieved this by acting in a more fiscally conservative manner than either Bush, Obama, or Reagan for that matter. Then again, I voted for Clinton and not for W or Obama.

Obama does not have to run deficits. He has to make tough choices and provide leadership in fixing our governments financial situation. Problems caused by unrestrained spending are unlikely to be solved by more spending. On the other hand, ending military adventurism and empire abroad would surely save us enough money to get rid of federal income tax, boosting the economy, and single-payer HC so cushy every doctor visit could come with a full-body scan, lavender bubble bath, and a hand-job. But, you're probably right, we should just keep bombing, borrowing, and name calling. It's bound to work eventually.

#51 | Posted by ChezWegro

yeah but I wonder how that happened.

Not gonna look it up but I will take a wild guess. They had to pick someone who couldn't raise a stink and I would bet they put it in there to get the Republicans to support it.

Unfortunately, it didn't matter cause it didn't work.

AFKBABBLE is busy cleaning up his exploded head but i will tell you the answer to my question:

'How many Republicans even voted for PAYGO?'

ZERO

So no republicans voted for the bill that required overages to be scalped from Medicare as opposed to coming from the stimulus slush fund, the democrats did, and the problem lies solely at the feet of the republicans? Your depth of insight is truly mind-blowing!

It's impossible to finish what we started in Afghanistan and no matter when we leave it's going to go back to at least the way it was pre-9/11

With a trained Afghan Army it's possible. The people don't want the Taliban, but to this point they've been helpless to keep them away.

Obama does not have to run deficits.

Unfortunately, he does. You can't avoid the $700 Billion in debt service, the $150 Billion in Medicare Part D, or any of the other statutory liabilities enacted by the GOP without a single score by the CBO. The Bush WH threatened to fire the actuary who wanted to testify to the true projected cost of Medicare Part D. He wasn't allowed to testify before Congress in the end.

He has to make tough choices and provide leadership in fixing our governments financial situation.

Which is what he's been doing; freezing non-security discretionary spending, freezing government salaries, creating a Deficit Commission the GOP were for before they were against it once he was on board. He's been far more concerned with deficits the past year than the GOP glaringly were when they had power.

The GOP borrowed us into the next century, but now want to pretend they had nothing to do with what they whine about.

Fixing the health care system will go a long ways towards avoiding deficits in the future.

We wouldn't be running deficits right now if the GOP had practiced what they used to preach before and after they had the whole enchilada.

If they want people to have unemployment benefits because they need the money...

why do we tax unemployment benefits?

Wouldn't the money go farther if it wasn't taxed?

'How many Republicans even voted for PAYGO?'

ZERO

#59 | Posted by donnerboy

Shame! Shame on you for telling the truth! - Republicans

So no republicans voted for the bill that required overages to be scalped from Medicare..

The Republicans Medicare Advantage has been taking advantage of the taxpayers by overcharging the taxpayers 13% a year. Scalping that is a good idea.

'How many Republicans even voted for PAYGO?'

ZERO

#59 | Posted by donnerboy

Shame! Shame on you for telling the truth! - Republicans

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-03-03 04:13 PM

"With a trained Afghan Army it's possible."

Right, that worked pretty well when we tried it to get rid of the Russians.

"The people don't want the Taliban, but to this point they've been helpless to keep them away. "

We can't waltz around the world toppling every crappy government. We can't afford it and it only sticks when the people are strong enough to support it.

"Which is what he's been doing; freezing non-security discretionary spending, freezing government salaries, creating a Deficit Commission the GOP were for before they were against it once he was on board."

He's pissing in the ocean.

" but now want to pretend they had nothing to do with what they whine about"

And the Democrats act like the only choice they have is continue what they cry about. Both parties are full of shit.

"Fixing the health care system will go a long ways towards avoiding deficits in the future."

We need to fix the financial situation so the have the money to fix the health care situation and actually do a good job of it. Finding a doctor isn't a top concern if you can't buy food.

"We wouldn't be running deficits right now if the GOP had practiced what they used to preach before and after they had the whole enchilada."

Once again, the old "my guys doesn't have to be accountable because the last guy sucked so bad" excuse. So refreshing!

"The Republicans Medicare Advantage has been taking advantage of the taxpayers by overcharging the taxpayers 13% a year. Scalping that is a good idea."

Then why exclude this bill?

I hate quitters.

#67 | Posted by ChezWegro

Chez, that's exactly why that problem is addressed in the HCR bill. The part they're calling "Medicare cuts".

That makes absolutely zero sense. Ignore a bill you just passed with language requiring cost over-runs to be cut from a program you find wasteful, because you'd rather address it in another bill you haven't passed yet and might never pass.

Pussy. This type of spinelessness is what's wrong with DC. He should have sent that bill to the grave with a hardcore filibuster.

Now, to blame Democrats for deficits that wouldn't have been without all that unfunded legislation the GOP rammed through is disingenuous at best.

#50 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

this defense of dems is beneath you

if SOME of you would bother to read or watch more than the regurgitations of olberman, cnn, or abc you might seen the report showing that SINCE paygo passed the dems have added ONE HUNDRED THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS to the deficit...

two thirds of the reid job bill was NOT PAID FOR..

and bunning just said that he had an argeement with reid to end it with a simple UP OR DOWN VOTE>.you remember what that is...thats what barry wants to use to takeover your whole fuckin life...

and what did the noted goddamn, asshole, lying, hypocritical, sonof a bitch do....he said NO..
and WHY...easy answer...cause he saw the political capital that the whores from abc and cnn and others were giving them based on pure lies.

and here is a little link for you reading the headline

Limiting access to publicly funded library computers to say, an hour or two a day, would be a good start.

That would be a local issue....

Your ideas lack any form of substance, but the jokes are seriously top-notch!

ha ha

thats a good one...
I AM limited to one hour..but I get special priviledges...Im old....

HEY AU....caught any american idol..
not real impressed with any of them yet...how about you?

AFKABL2

I haven't watched it yet. Got caught up in the Olympics. I might watch once they narrow down the field to just a handful. At this point, it's painful to sit through off key performances and the like.

there is a guy with long hair that does pretty well but I tried to watch it last night and some other guy they had on sounded........

well he sounded like me......

well he sounded like me......

#78 | Posted by afkabl2

Link? LOL

If anyone was wondering, my win cookie... Delicious!

"Forgetfulness" is a real problem with Republicans.

#55 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

"Forgetfulness" is the real problem with AU.

FTFY..

The extension means if an individual was about to exhaust their state benefits and about to exhaust a tier of emergency unemployment compensation, they are eligible to apply to move up to the next tier. However, if an individual is about to exhaust their final tier or extended benefits, this will not help them.

"This does not add more weeks of benefits, it just extends the deadline in which people can qualify for either Emergency Unemployment Compensation or extended benefits," says Judy Conti of NELP in Washington. (Monitor report on states hardest hit by delay on unemployment benefits

I love the argument that if Bunning didn't vote for the bill he shouldn't try and enforce it...

So, if a cop didn't vote for the speed limit, he can't right you a ticket? If the judge didn't vote for the drug laws, he can't put you in jail for selling smack?

That is liberalism at its most basic. If you aren't perfect, then you can never criticize anyone for anything [unless you are a fellow lib].

Do I think this was the best bill to stand up on? No, probably not... not because it wasn't a good idea to stand up to the horseshit in congress, but because it gave the assclowns on the left some ammo to call repubs 'mean'. Course, if it were lefties holding up a military appropiations bill under Bush, the right would have made hay as well. There is enough Congressional Horseshit for both parties to fling.

During Bunning's 24 years at the trough he's watched while the debt rose from 2 trillion to almost 12 trillion making his sudden conversion into a "fiscal conservative" here a bit of a non-starter.

His "principled stand" here is nothing more than cynical show-boating fer the TP set.

Be Well.

Wasn't Bunning a labor organizer during his baseball days?

Is there some part of "it wasn't a filibuster" that isn't clear?

well he sounded like me......

#78 | Posted by afkabl2

Link? LOL

#79 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

hope you understand that I meant that noone ever has or ever will mistake me for a singer,...

and today we know to what depths the asshole reid will go to make a gop look bad.
this AM bunning told us all again that he had a deal for a vote worked out with harry and reid screwed him because harry knew he could get more politics out of NOT putting thier vote where their mouths were.
DEMOCRAT PARTY OVER COUNTRY one more time and ignored and lied about by national media and retorters..

It's only politicizing the issue when you disagree with the demoRATS.....

When dems disagree with republicans...it's the highest form a patriotism....

As Obama says the time for disagreement is over. The Lord has spoken......

WHY would the dems have to abide by their own recent paygo rules???????

Funny how most everyone here agree that we should throw out the incumbents and elect new blood, ones that arent beholden to the PAC money.

Isnt that exactly what Bunning did in his stance on boworring more money instead of using existing borrowed money? Isnt this exactly the type of representation we are looking for these days?

While I agree that he should have taken this stand long ago during the Bush years. It would be really something to have seen everyone D,R, or I get behind this guy if we really wanted to send a message to the current feeders at the trough, both R ans D!

If he has a "R" next to his name, the lefties will all run around like he proposed raping their children, whatever is proposed.

If he has a "D" next to his name, the righties will all run around the exact same damn way.

The only purpose is to distract the citizens while both parties are picking your pocket... and your children's pockets, and your grandchildren's pockets, etc.

Posted on a different thread:

For the record, I agree with Jim Bunning, and believe he should've held out regardless the consequences. The problem is his hypocrisy: cheerleading when the spending was coming from an (R), and condemning when the guy had a (D) after his name. But I can't think of one good reason not to use the stimulus funds for that...IF it's a good investment (which I don't believe it is).

So 2,000 DOT workers get laid off? That's the least of our problems. And before long, it'll seem positively benign.

2,000 DOT workers missed a couple days of work.

And a couple hundred thousand lost unemployment and have to refile.

Maybe the dems should have thought about that before they decided to exempt this bill from their own rule. Some people having to refile seems pretty insignificant compared to borrowing billions of dollars instead of using what we already borrowed. I don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as obviously the only thing you want to hear is that what ever party you side with is totally blameless and the other guys are just big meanies. I swear half the people on this site must sit in front of their computers in diapers and bonnets, arms crossed, and stamping their feet.

About the only thread you've posted on here is this one.

From KY? Have an agenda we should know about?

Oh, now I remember.

Go Retro 176!

See CHEZ

The thing about Bunning that gets my goat is his hypocrisy. He voted for nearly every budget busting item the GOP laid out in front of him without a peep, but now wants to stand in the way of people getting unemployment and whines about deficits.

Hypocrisy is the problem.

It's as though the GOP are all in prison and found Jesus all of the sudden.

Dude, insult my mother all day, but don't call a Hoosier a fucking Kentuckian.

Bunning calls out the dems for exempting a bill from their own rules and the only hypocrisy you can see is in the GOP. You've got to be kidding me...

Every time that congress tries to pull shit like this, someone should stand up and make a fuss. And it doesn't matter one little bit what their motives are or how big of a douchebag they may be.

Dude, insult my mother all day, but don't call a Hoosier a fucking Kentuckian.

LOL

Thank God I didn't do that!

When a White House statement refers to a "bedrock principle," it means something slushy and soft and not really a principle at all, but a gimmick, still one more fraud to fool the public, a joke of the kind that must keep presidential aides rolling on the floor in laughter at all the fools who cheer them on.

The "principle" referred to was what would bind Congress if it passed a pay-as-you go law: It could then "only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar elsewhere." But when the legislation actually became law and Sen. Jim Bunning of Kentucky tried to have Congress observe its provisions, the Democrats were outraged and Vice President Joe Biden portrayed the Republican in one reported interview as inhumane.

It's impossible to finish what we started in Afghanistan and no matter when we leave it's going to go back to at least the way it was pre-9/11, probably worse the longer we stay. Remember, the Taliban came to power as a response to our dicking around in their country. Took power with weapons we gave them, too. Sneaky little bastards. They did do a good job of making sure we had to get our smack from Latin America though, got to give them some credit for that.
Clinton deserves credit for his work on the debt. But, let's face it, he achieved this by acting in a more fiscally conservative manner than either Bush, Obama, or Reagan for that matter. Then again, I voted for Clinton and not for W or Obama.
Obama does not have to run deficits. He has to make tough choices and provide leadership in fixing our governments financial situation. Problems caused by unrestrained spending are unlikely to be solved by more spending. On the other hand, ending military adventurism and empire abroad would surely save us enough money to get rid of federal income tax, boosting the economy, and single-payer HC so cushy every doctor visit could come with a full-body scan, lavender bubble bath, and a hand-job. But, you're probably right, we should just keep bombing, borrowing, and name calling. It's bound to work eventually.
#57 | Posted by chezwegro at 2010-03-03 03:55 PM

The Taliban are Pakistani nationals trained by CIA and ISI who are actively fighting our own troops. After the British moved out the Taliban surrounded Kabul and Kandahar flooding in from Pakistan - it should have become obvious to you we are there for the heroin.