In case the embedded video is not working properly, the site is:
http://www.ted.com/talks/view/
id/767

WTF?

That should be a real shot in the arm for Microsoft stock.

Yet more proof that pinheads should not try to listen to TED talks. It overloads their 3 functioning braincells and they start making shit up and babbling like some homeless guy in a Texas library.

Put you money where you mouth is Mr. Gates. I sspect that were this crapola really economically feasible Microsoft would be on it like stink on sh.......good theater though!

#5 Gates runs a foundation with an endowment of over $35Billion. Hundreds of millions are earmarked for vaccine programs, and they've helped Rotary International on polio plus to help eradicate polio with a promised challenge grant of $355 Million.

It is virtually axiomatic that with better health, third world countries can begin to develop their infrastructures to strive to become 1st world countries. When countries become developed, populations tend to stabilize. In US for instance, population would be stable if not for immigration. Europe is in decline if not for immigration.

I think some of you are being myopic about his statements, and certainly about him putting his money where is mouth is. He has.

I'll give you a hint, dumbass. If you want to reduce the world's population, you don't do it by immunizing third-worlders against diseases that kill hundreds of thousands annually. The tired old piles of garbage you shovel onto this site are utterly nonsensical.

Given how passionate you are about this issue, why haven't you bothered to crack a book and learn a little about immunology? Do you aspire to argue intelligently about the subject, or are you content to captivate an audience of simpletons with incoherent babble?

But by all means, please continue blathering on about how Bill Gates is going to kill us all. The closest he's ever going to come to doing that is with Vista.

Gates said that a 20 per cent reduction in CO2 emissions was necessary by 2020, a 50 per cent reduction by 2050, and ultimately that there had to be zero CO2 emissions globally, a measure that would completely reverse hundreds of years of technological progress and return man to the agrarian age, all in the name of preventing an alleged miniscule temperature increase that has been proven to be based on fraudulent data models in light of the Climategate scandal.

K, wot Bill sed here in terms of linking vaccines to a lowered population was dumb or ill-expressed.

Wot the writer of this piece sed above was totally bat-shiat insane.

Mankind needs to replace it's pollution spewing fossil fuels for clean, green, renewable manufacturing and energy sources.

Even in the absence of AGW this would be true.

Nobody is talking about a return to an agrarian age.

This guy doesn't have the first clue in the set.

Be Well.

#6
A formidable attempt at glazing over the oxymoron, Somoco. Further, is it really "charity" to produce polio in guise of eradication program by a known eugenicist?

#7
I'll give you a hint, dumbass.

Certainly you must be speaking to Gates, the mouthpiece? No? How about to your eugenics ilk? No, again?

Go take a flying leap, hypocrite.

Get help, LR. You're not even capable of articulating a complete though.

I don't get the logic of giving vaccines to children under two. It takes about two years for a blood barrier to develop in the brain. The barrier protects the brain from metals in the blood that may be transfered from the vaccine. Maybe Zombie can explain?

#8 spud
linking vaccines to a lowered population was dumb or ill-expressed. Wot the writer of this piece sed above was totally bat-shiat insane.

Interesting twist there Spud. Liberals protecting their own? What justification do you have that these two statements are actually not just the opposite, as his own words would logically suggest?

#11 z
Really? Hopefully you enjoyed your moment of delusion as if have a single ounce of credibility left to attack anyone on the DR.

#12 | Posted by Ray at 2010-03-01 09:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then why don't you start a relevant thread to discuss it?

How an improvement in health care and vaccines save lives and lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to those that sterilize people, which is the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren's 1977 textbook Ecoscience.

Which vaccines sterlize people?

Specifically.

No semantics.

Further, is it really "charity" to produce polio in guise of eradication program by a known eugenicist?

So "they" are producing poliovirus now and giving it to people? And all for the purpose of "eradicating" a population?

You don't know much about poliovirus, do you?

#11 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-03-01 07:49 PM | Reply | Flag: www.drudge.com

#14 | Posted by L_RContrarian

Continuously reliving your past perceived glories, eh LR?

It's hilarious when you say things like "Is there anyone left on DR that doesn't snicker when you open your trap?" and "Hopefully you enjoyed your moment of delusion as if have a single ounce of credibility left to attack anyone on the DR." It's almost as if you're speaking to yourself....

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if you were/are. You are rather insane.

#9 | Posted by L_RContrarian

You've got some real gems for links there.

The malaria one raised an interesting point though.

The others? LOL

I don't get the logic of giving vaccines to children under two. It takes about two years for a blood barrier to develop in the brain. The barrier protects the brain from metals in the blood that may be transfered from the vaccine. Maybe Zombie can explain?

I don't think that's the only logic you don't get.

They aren't timing vaccine delivery based on development of the BBB (which I'd have to see a source for your two year claim...).

Vaccines are given that young because it is during the 1-2 year mark when maternal antibody (provided by breast milk) begins to wain, leaving a period of time when the infant is completely unprotected against anything they may get.

Sparking the reformation of that antibody-mediated immunity via vaccines is the aim of child vaccines.

Ray,

I can't find a better source for the BBB development, but I did find this.

"The blood-brain barrier is not intact in infants until at least 6 weeks of life. This is why a newborn with a fever must be subjected to a spinal tap to rule out menningitis. Any virus or bacteria that a newborn is exposed to can go directly to the nervous system. This is why the Hepatitis B vaccine at birth is so dangerous. Between 1991 and 1999, when the shot contained thimerisol, giving it at birth would have resulted in mercury crossing into the brain since the blood-brain barrier was not yet intact. As a nurse, I'm concerned that this information about the normal timing of a blood-brain barrier forming is not more readily known. I think this normal delay in the forming of a blood-brain barrier is an important piece of the puzzle and one of the reasons for the surge of autism in the 90's."----Mary Barbera RN, MSN

From none other than quack central whale.to.

It comes out in bits and pieces....

The best way to control population growth is to educate women.

Sure, Bill. Look at how well eugenics politics turned out for Adolph.

I didn't notice that this article was posted!
I hate it when that happens.

Get help, LR. You're not even capable of articulating a complete "though".

#11 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-03-01 07:49 PM | Reply |

Zombieballs cracks me up....

Oh dear, I made a typo. Take care not to piss all over yourself in your fits of laughter.

Look at how well eugenics politics turned out for Adolph.

About as well as that education thing turned out for Diablo.

Actually it wasn't the typo that was funny.
It was the fact that you were attacking LR for not completing a thought, and you couldn't complete your thought in type...
ROFL...Oops! I peed a little.

It is virtually axiomatic that with better health, third world countries can begin to develop their infrastructures to strive to become 1st world countries. When countries become developed, populations tend to stabilize.

Yup. The less miserable and destitute the third world is, the less babies its people will have. Gates gives millions to fight malaria and other diseases. He's not out to sterilize people with vaccines.

you couldn't complete your thought in type

I didn't press the "t" key hard enough. You and LR babble incoherently about shit you have absolutely no understanding of. Big difference.

#18 jpw
Are you her mommy? You have zero credibility of your own, as your hypocrisy reaks putrid. The DR surely is snickering after hearing your vast hypocrisy and humorous 'insane' insult.

You don't know much about poliovirus, do you?

What part about #9 links do you not get? Do I also need to spell it out, before you purposely attempt to distort it (like you did just two days ago)?

#31 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-03-02 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag: Try your other screen name, someone might trust you

Are you her mommy? You have zero credibility of your own, as your hypocrisy reaks putrid.

My hypocrisy?

And you're hilarious if you think YOU have any more credibility.

In fact, why are you so fixated on credibility all the time? Credibility envy?

What part about #9 links do you not get?

There's nothing to get.

The malaria link made good points (if true).

The others were nonsense.

Do I also need to spell it out, before you purposely attempt to distort it (like you did just two days ago)?

Please do. It'd be nice to actually have you show some command of a topic instead of a steady barrage of other people's words cut-n-pasted.

It's also a nice touch when you post links to other threads you think count as some sort of victory for you.

They usually highlight not only your ignorance, but the depth of your stupidity for not even knowing it.

It is virtually axiomatic that with better health, third world countries can begin to develop their infrastructures to strive to become 1st world countries. When countries become developed, populations tend to stabilize.

Thanks Somo for making the premise clearer.

---------

Gates has done everything humanly possible to save lives.

To think otherwise is bizarre.

What part about #9 links do you not get?

What part of producing credible evidence do you not get?

The malaria vaccine article had a smattering of facts in it, though the author seems to be teetering at the brink of the deep end. That's more than I could say for the other two. These people are writing about topics they don't understand and come to inaccurate conclusions as a result.

Try your other screen name

Which is?

Credibility envy?

I think he envies your ability to sleep without having nightmares of black helicopters descending on his trailer park (to de-louse and forcibly vaccinate its inhabitants).

#21 | Posted by jpw
Six months? I'll have to double check that. Because the source, from where I learned it is two years, is a neuroscientist. Yes. It does have bearing on autism.

Six months? I'll have to double check that. Because the source, from where I learned it is two years, is a neuroscientist. Yes. It does have bearing on autism.

That's just what I could find at a quick glance.

I'd be interested to see what the real time frame is.

They aren't timing vaccine delivery based on development of the BBB (which I'd have to see a source for your two year claim...).

That's a careless attitude.
My source is on DVD, a course on the nervous system. So I can't link to it.

Vaccines are given that young because it is during the 1-2 year mark when maternal antibody (provided by breast milk) begins to wain, leaving a period of time when the infant is completely unprotected against anything they may get.

Sparking the reformation of that antibody-mediated immunity via vaccines is the aim of child vaccines.

#20 | Posted by jpw

You calously dismiss the issue of BBB like you do every else that questions the safety of vaccines. It only heightens suspicion that you lack objectivity.

#17 jpw
Which vaccines sterlize people?

You are a complete fraud. You'll probably want to change your screen name as well.

As you know your talking points so well, YOU absolutely could provide hundreds of links within minutes of your surreptitious question. You could provide links of the history of sterilization of unwanted populations, Margaret Sanger ideologies including sterilization/eugenics, vaccine adjuvants resulting in sterilization in testing, tainted vaccines used in third world countries to sterilize, etc, etc,etc.

A more intellectually honest question would be:
which vaccine DOES NOT sterilize people.

#41 | Posted by Ray at 2010-03-02 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag:
where's the thread? why do you provide a means to their own agenda that must distract from this devastating topic into the relatively easier, strawman arguments?

The best way to control population growth is to educate women.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2010-03-02 07:56 AM | Reply | Flag: Best quote of the day on DR!

That's a careless attitude.
My source is on DVD, a course on the nervous system. So I can't link to it.

Why? There's no concrete evidence linking "metals" in vaccines to autism.

Couple that with the fact that what I could find (that the BBB is intact by 6 weeks from an anti-vax site to boot) and I'd say you're fresh out of legs to stand on.

What's the name of the DVD?

You calously dismiss the issue of BBB like you do every else that questions the safety of vaccines. It only heightens suspicion that you lack objectivity.

No I don't. I'm asking you for info and am digging myself. How is that dismissing the topic?

Besides, you asked what the logic was behind administering vaccines in early childhood. I gave it to you. Don't tack on extra conditions and then blame me for why they aren't taken into consideration.

And stuff your suspicions. They're probably as wrong as everything else that dribbles out of your mouth (or keyboard).

Should have included Reference 2 as well. Here's the link:

You are a complete fraud. You'll probably want to change your screen name as well.

Not likely. I'm having way too much fun bitch slapping your pathetic ass around on this one.

As you know your talking points so well, YOU absolutely could provide hundreds of links within minutes of your surreptitious question. You could provide links of the history of sterilization of unwanted populations, Margaret Sanger ideologies including sterilization/eugenics, vaccine adjuvants resulting in sterilization in testing, tainted vaccines used in third world countries to sterilize, etc, etc,etc.

I'm sure I could find links to all the conspiracies you list and more.

However, it is not up to me to do your legwork. Find the info and post it.

The shit you posted does not answer the question whatsoever.

Show me that the poliovirus vaccines cause sterility. Show that the MMR causes sterility. How about the HiB? HepB? DTap?

(continued)

Antifertility Vaccines and the WHO:

In March 2004, Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, Nigeria, took samples of the controversial WHO's oral polio vaccine to India for analysis. Evidence of serious vaccine contamination was found. According to a March 11, 2004 report on www.lifesite.net, Kaita was asked why drug manufacturers would contaminate the oral polio vaccine. He gave three reasons: "These manufacturers or promoters of these harmful things have a secret agenda which only further research can reveal. Secondly they have always taken us in the third world for granted, thinking we don't have the capacity, knowledge and equipment to conduct tests that would reveal such contaminants. And very unfortunately they also have people to defend their atrocities within our midst, and worst still some of these are supposed to be our own professionals who we rely on to protect our interests." Dr. Kaita is demanding that "those who imported this fake drug in the name of Polio Vaccines- be prosecuted like any other criminal."

This is not the first time the WHO has been called on the carpet to explain their surreptitious use of antifertility vaccines. Millions of female Mexicans, Nicaraguans and Filipinos were duped into taking tetanus vaccines, some of which were laced with a female hormone that could cause miscarriage and sterilization. In 1995 a Catholic organization called Human Life International accused the WHO of promoting this Canadian-made tetanus vaccine covertly laced with a pregnancy hormone called human choriogonadotropic hormone (HCG). Suspicions were aroused when the tetanus vaccine was prescribed in the peculiar dose of five multiple injections over a three month period, and recommended only to women of child-bearing age. When an unusual number of women experienced vaginal bleeding and miscarriages after the shots, a hormone additive was uncovered as the cause.

Third-world women who received the laced tetanus shots not only developed antibodies to tetanus, but developed dangerous antibodies to the pregnancy HCG hormone as well. Without HCG, growth of the fetus is impaired. Consequently, the WHO's vaccine served as a covert and unsuspected contraceptive device. Commissioned to analyze the vaccine, the Philippines Medical Association found that 20 percent of the WHO tetanus vaccines were contaminated with the hormone. The WHO has denied all accusations as "completely false and without basis," and the U.S. media never reported on the controversy. Following an eight month boycott, on June 24, 2004, the recalcitrant Nigerians agreed to resume polio vaccinations, under the conditions the polio vaccine had to be manufactured in Indonesia and nowhere else.

#48 jpw
blog listing a bunch of conspiracy shit

No conspiracy has ever been shown to be true? At least none that destroy your clan, right?

That dumbfuck has NO CLUE what he's talking about.

Right, dipshit. We should take the word of anonymous fraud JPW over a PHD, who has NO CLUE.

Time to retire your talking points, shill!

LOL an anonymous blog is your source?

Now you siting it here will give Google another "source" for some other idiot looking for this type of info.

No conspiracy has ever been shown to be true? At least none that destroy your clan, right?

It doesn't matter if any conspiracy has been found to be true. That has NO bearing whatsoever on this topic.

If that's what your argument hinges on in your head, you really REALLY need to think harder.

Right, dipshit. We should take the word of anonymous fraud JPW over a PHD, who has NO CLUE.

You're right, your PhD HAS NO CLUE.

There's also a sweet irony in this, you all of a sudden warming up to blogs written by anonymous sources as legitimate sources of information.

I was at least honest and admitted that it was a poor source when I posted one.

Time to retire your talking points, shill!

What talking points? Oh, you mean real science?

Any more info on your PhD buddy?

All I can find is that he frequents conspiracy nut blogs and radio shows but there's no mention of his actual qualifications or background.

What's the name of the DVD?

Look up Teaching Company (teachco.com?). They have a course on the brain.

No I don't. I'm asking you for info and am digging myself. How is that dismissing the topic?

You have a long history of stonewalling.

Besides, you asked what the logic was behind administering vaccines in early childhood. I gave it to you. Don't tack on extra conditions and then blame me for why they aren't taken into consideration.

??? You told my what I wanted to know. As for the two years, I said I would double check my source.

And stuff your suspicions. They're probably as wrong as everything else that dribbles out of your mouth (or keyboard).
#45 | Posted by jpw

You're very creative at making an ass of yourself with stupid insults. You were also flat wrong about this H1N1 flu of being of consequence. Mercola had it nailed. Even before Mercola, I saw it for a fraud. I told early on, I'm very good at detecting bullshit.

You have a long history of stonewalling.

If not believing every source you can find on Google, then yes, I have a history of stonewalling.

??? You told my what I wanted to know. As for the two years, I said I would double check my source.

Then how was my relating the logic used a callous disregard for the BBB issue?

You're very creative at making an ass of yourself with stupid insults.

Thank you. I strive for excellence in everything I do.

You were also flat wrong about this H1N1 flu of being of consequence. Mercola had it nailed. Even before Mercola, I saw it for a fraud. I told early on, I'm very good at detecting bullshit.

You and Mercola didn't have anything nailed.

You just say no long enough that you eventually get one right.

You remember the ones you got "right" as justification for your behavior. I'm sure everyone else remembers all the ones you've gotten wrong and therefore discount your behaviors.

#53 jpw
You're right, your PhD HAS NO CLUE.

Based on what? Because some anonymous MORON says so? The pattern is clear. Any point that hurts you is either a "conspiracy" or the expert "has no clue".

You would actually have the DR community believe that there has never been tainted vaccines? Bullshit. There are SO MANY on record, that it is completely laughable.

Elements of a crime: Means, motive and opportunity are all established by the historical record. Only by their lobbying ability/power are they not in jail. You must write each one off as a conspiracy theory or you are finished!

LOL an anonymous blog is your source?

Incompetent freaks in the dingy corners of the internet are the only sources that iodine-deficient cretin can scrounge up. You're dealing with an incompetent fanboy obsessed with conspiracy theories.

Why would a paranoid moron like LR bother to defend outlandish statements when it's far easier for him to continuously copy/paste mountains of drivel written by others crackpot?

It's a religious sort of devotion with those types. Their gospel is written by fat slobs living who post youtube videos from their mothers' basements. They find salvation in paranoia - anyone who knows more than they do cannot be trusted. Most importantly, ignorance is a supreme virtue among adherents of this religion... it prevents cherished beliefs from being challenged by any amount of contradictory evidence.

You and Mercola didn't have anything nailed.
You just say no long enough that you eventually get one right.
#57 | POSTED BY JPW

That's good for a laugh.

If not believing every source you can find on Google, then yes, I have a history of stonewalling.

You have a bad excuse for everything. You dismiss the relationship between nutrition and disease for no other reason than arrogance. There's been an explosion of research in that area. You're not qualified to dismiss it because you are totally ignorant on topic.

Then how was my relating the logic used a callous disregard for the BBB issue?

The question is basic and vital to someone who claims to be an expert on the immune system.

Why is it that leftwing douchebag progressives want to control our population?

Sounds a lot like nazis to me.

That's good for a laugh.

Because you know it's true.

The uncomfortable laugh discomfort.

Blind squirrel and all...

You have a bad excuse for everything.

No, I just don't have shady interpretations of science.

You dismiss the relationship between nutrition and disease for no other reason than arrogance.

Bullshit. You're disingenuous as shit if you maintain this to be true.

I just don't believe the bullshit version you push.

There's been an explosion of research in that area.

As I've said MANY times before, post it. Put your money where your mouth is and post the damned data.

You're not qualified to dismiss it because you are totally ignorant on topic.

Never claimed to be anything otherwise.

It's too bad you don't take the clue on vaccines and virology in general.

The question is basic and vital to someone who claims to be an expert on the immune system.

Never claimed to be an expert.

Just claimed to be more knowledgeable than you(Which is painfully obvious).

And your assertion is bullshit. The BBB is not part of immunology to being with. Also, the point of immunizations is to build antibody responses. There's no evidence to suggest it actually causes neurological disorders despite how breathlessly you maintain that there is.

It was a scam. I said it. LRcontarian said it. Mercola said it. Bill Sardi of Rockwell.com said it. Many other of our sources said it. You stonewalled. You insulted. You ignored. People make mistakes. But the way you two did it was especially uncivil.

Oh bullshit.

You based your "calling it" off of nothing more than your typical bullshit naysaying.

I'm sure you'll continue to ignore the fact that most of the "sources" you list "called it" by making ridiculous statements and deflections to past pandemics that flew in the face of mainstream knowledge.

But hey. Who gives a shit about the means so long as the end is met, right?

The Flu Season that Fizzled.
online.wsj.com

There's an entire thread on it.

Thanks for joining the group.

It's clear you didn't read the article based on your black and white presentation of it.

I hereby give you two the Al Gore Hockey Stick Award.

Shove it up your ass.

Is that civil enough for you?

solve 2 problems at once... get India to nuke China.

Viola. Wipe out the excess population, and the resulting nuclear winter should make all the lefties cream themselves.

Gates gives millions to fight malaria and other diseases. He's not out to sterilize people with vaccines.

#30 | Posted by rcade

similar to Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger . . her stated goal was negro REDUCTION

it sounds like Cade is on board?

#68 | Posted by markh

When you streeeeeeeeeeeetch like that, do your joints pop?

It's too bad you don't take the clue on vaccines and virology in general.
#63 | Posted by jpw

You don't have a clue to the relationship between nutritution and disease.

I just don't believe the bullshit version you push.

You can't even define what "bullshit" I push.

I'm sure you'll continue to ignore the fact that most of the "sources" you list "called it" by making ridiculous statements and deflections to past pandemics that flew in the face of mainstream knowledge.

That's why you're a herd thinker and not a critical thinker.

Shove it up your ass.
Is that civil enough for you?
#66 | Posted by jpw

Bad reputations are earned. They can't be returned.

As I've said MANY times before, post it. Put your money where your mouth is and post the damned data.

We've been through that MANY times before. You dismiss it because it doesn't conform to your rigid mindset.

I'm waiting to see what scare-of-the-season the CDC comes up with in the fall.

It was a scam. I said it. LRcontarian said it. Mercola said it. Bill Sardi of Rockwell.com said it.

Adding mickey mouse to that list would greatly increase the anti-vaccine movement's credibility, Ray. All of the people you mentioned in this list are fucking retards who can't support anything they say with empirical evidence. Their "arguments" are nothing more than inaccurate ramblings inspired by other internet crackpots. It's what you get when people become passionate about a subject they know jack shit about.

Ray, when you spread disinformation that compromises others' health and are too stupid to realize it, you should expect to be treated like a maggot. Don't act so surprised.

Bad reputations are earned. They can't be returned.

The next time someone treats you morons like escapees from the looney bin, remind yourself of that.

Zombie
Being offensive is the worst form of defense. You and your poison-peddler partner in crime are two of the most obnoxious people I know on DR.

You can share the Al Gore Hockey Stick Award with JPW. You earned it.

Being offensive is the worst form of defense.

So is making stuff up or supporting those who do.

You and your poison-peddler partner in crime are two of the most obnoxious people I know on DR.

And yet you and LR are the only two on the DR that bring out that side of me.

#75 jpw
Ray, where would you like to go to have a toast?

It was a scam. I said it. LRcontarian said it. Mercola said it. Bill Sardi of Rockwell.com said it.

Don't forget Bani and a host of others before --finally-- even the controlled mainstream media, thoroughly discredited had to admit it.

#76 | Posted by L_RContrarian

Do you think you're making a point by putting your previous drivel on display on an irrelevant thread?

You don't have a clue to the relationship between nutritution and disease.

From some of your past comments I'd say you don't either.

Don't you buy into the whole idea that bacteria don't cause disease, but are a symptom of a dysfunctional microenvironment that is caused by poor nutrition.

Is that about right?

You can't even define what "bullshit" I push.

We've gone in this circle many times.

I think I'm quite familiar with your stance.

Natural "medicine" except in emergencies, then modern medicine is OK.

That's why you're a herd thinker and not a critical thinker.

LOL so simply disbelieving mainstream info makes one a critical thinker? It doesn't matter how batshit crazy one's statements and rationalizations are?

I even completely deconstructed one of the Lew Rockwell guy's columns. You had no response.

But yet I'm the "herd thinker"?

Bad reputations are earned. They can't be returned.

Key to this is the assumption that I care what my reputation is with you.

Particularly since we could meet randomly on the street and you wouldn't have any idea you knew me.

Natural "medicine" except in emergencies, then modern medicine is OK.

Food is our best medicine. Yet you have a problem with that way of thinking.

LOL so simply disbelieving mainstream info makes one a critical thinker? It doesn't matter how batshit crazy one's statements and rationalizations are?

It's not mainstream per se. It's when mainstream thinking becomes dogmatically defended in the face of many failures. The mortality and morbidity your industry gets away with is on the scale of war criminality.
Nutritutional medicine is superior in many respects, not only in effectiveness, but in cost and safety. This is a topic with which I've had over 40 years of positive results with, which you call "batshit crazy."

But yet I'm the "herd thinker"?

You're a product of your training. You can't see beyond that wall.

#75 jpw
Ray, where would you like to go to have a toast?
#77 | Posted by L_RContrarian

I know an excellent cigar bar on the upper east side in NYC.

Besides the poisonous side effects, Big Pharma is pricing itself out of the market. That's a significant reason for the push for Obamacare.

I'm sure you know about the McCain bill to put food supplements under FDA control. Using the law to stamp out competition is another sign of desperation.

Let these to snarl and growl all they want. It's typical of the attack mentality in the industry they come from. They are not going to stop the rise of nutritional medicine.

I even completely deconstructed one of the Lew Rockwell guy's columns. You had no response.

You have no credibility.

Food is our best medicine. Yet you have a problem with that way of thinking.

I have a problem with thinking that it's that simple.

It's not mainstream per se. It's when mainstream thinking becomes dogmatically defended in the face of many failures. The mortality and morbidity your industry gets away with is on the scale of war criminality.

LOL what a drama queen.

Of course you don't mention the overwhelming majority of people who's lives are improved and prolonged by "my industry" (whatever the hell that means).

Have you ever stopped to think that people ate "naturally" for thousands of years and still died young? You don't think it's more than a coincidence that average life expectancy rose as medicine became more advanced?

Nutritutional medicine is superior in many respects, not only in effectiveness, but in cost and safety. This is a topic with which I've had over 40 years of positive results with, which you call "batshit crazy."

No, that's not what I call batshit crazy.

That's what I call anecdotal evidence that has the weight of proton in regards to this argument.

Good for you for eating well and feeling good.

But yet I'm the "herd thinker"?
You're a product of your training. You can't see beyond that wall.

My God you're an arrogant POS.

Of course the more educated person is the wrong one. We'll just claim they can't really think while showing little ability to think ourselves.

You have no credibility.

And there it is. You don't have a response because you have nothing to respond with. You are ignorant as hell and simply deny anything you don't like with a wave of your hand and an accusation with no support.

I have a problem with thinking that it's that simple.

You should be embarrassed to say that. It's basic chemistry: output = input. If we don't ingest food that meets our body's optimum chemical requirements, we're inviting sickness and disease. I won't say all, but certainly most ailments have underlying nutritional causes.

You are ignorant as hell and simply deny anything you don't like with a wave of your hand and an accusation with no support.

Why should I poison myself when there are better alternatives? Life Extension Foundation is one of the best documented sources I know. You can check it out for yourself, but that is probably asking too much.

It's basic chemistry: output = input. If we don't ingest food that meets our body's optimum chemical requirements, we're inviting sickness and disease.

It's not anywhere near that simple.

I've never denied good nutrition is absolutely desirable and should be striven for. Hell, that's exactly what you'll be told by any PCP. However, even having perfect, well tuned nutritional intake will not prevent you from getting diseases, particularly the infectious and genetic kinds.

I won't say all, but certainly most ailments have underlying nutritional causes.

Source source source.

Life Extension Foundation is one of the best documented sources I know. You can check it out for yourself, but that is probably asking too much.

Now we're getting somewhere.

If you post a source, the onus is on me to check it out. Particularly when I've requested you do so.

However, even having perfect, well tuned nutritional intake will not prevent you from getting diseases, particularly the infectious and genetic kinds.

Our bodies are too complex to be able to construct a pefect nutritutional program, not to mention the additional importance of stress management and exercise.
Ultimatately the goal of biological science is aimed at improving the quality and length of life. I've see enormous strides since I've been following the industry.

Treating disease is an ad hoc approach that can't accomplish that goal. Every time we ingest a substance that is foreign to our bodies, it sets off defense mechanism that taxes our body.

Bill Gates in favor of genocide - who knew?

Ok so now that I destroyed the global warming debate. That makes what Bill Gates said evil and unnecessary. No "vaccines" are needed to reduce the population. Although that vaccine would be a poison and not a vaccine. Vaccines cure people not kill them. I don't know of any other way to reduce population other than genocide.

But it's a moot point because I just proved global warming is a fraud and the science is currently being questioned and discredited.

Memorandum submitted by the Institute of Physics (CRU 39)

#82 ray
I'm sure you know about the McCain bill to put food supplements under FDA control.

Sure, I posted the story. Few bothered to comment, including the shills. When posting stories that doesn't SPELL big pharma directly, they apparently stay away hoping that the DR can't see the connection between the FDA, Codex and the globalist agenda for which they are blind apparatchiks to.

#78 | Posted by L_RContrarian at 2010-03-03 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was a scam. I said it. LRcontarian said it. Mercola said it. Bill Sardi of Rockwell.com said it.

Don't forget Bani and a host of others before --finally-- even the controlled mainstream media, thoroughly discredited had to admit it.

#79 | Posted by jpw at 2010-03-03 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you think you're making a point by putting your previous drivel on display on an irrelevant thread?

Wow, you're losing it buddy. I was directly responding and expanding to the point made by Ray. Sorry that the truth HURTS so much! Speaking of irrelevant posing: You STILL haven't even attempted to explain the Bill Gates oxymoron as requested multiple times.

#66 | Posted by jpw at 2010-03-03 04:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

I hereby give you two the Al Gore Hockey Stick Award.

Shove it up your ass.

Is that civil enough for you?

Wow, another thread JPW has lost all civility and shown the true colors.

How many times have you been told? The GIG is UP! Time to hang it up! Your talking points are yesterday's news. The DR is awake, America is quickly catchup up as well.

I sent protest letters to my congressman and senators. If you read the comments on the article posted by drudgereport.com, the commenters were furious almost to the person. These attempts have generated strong protests in the past. So there's a good chance it's still too hot for Congress touch. McCain is toast.

#90 pragma
I don't know of any other way to reduce population other than genocide.

Apparently you've simply jumped into this thread without bothering to read through it. Don't expect the DR to 'comprehend' the threads for you.

Hint/shortcut for ya: Search 'sterilize'.

"Your talking points are yesterday's news. The DR is awake, America is quickly catchup up as well."

Fringe theorists always claim that the target population is "catching on". Yet years later, they remain on the fringe. Odd.

similar to Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger . . her stated goal was negro REDUCTION
#68 | Posted by markh

When you streeeeeeeeeeeetch like that, do your joints pop?
#69 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Sanger Negro Project (Sanger's Eugenic Plan for Black Americans);
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," Sanger said, . . . 'human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning human beings who never should have been born."

that's one nasty bitch ya hold in high regard, Doc

How many times have you been told? The GIG is UP! Time to hang it up! Your talking points are yesterday's news. The DR is awake, America is quickly catchup up as well.

LOL care to start a poll and test your hypothesis?

I'm guessing you'll be disappointed by the results.

Most people ignore you because you're not worth the time to address.

I happen to be a glutton for punishment and punish myself by attempting to engage you in actual discussion.

#97 jpw
You'll just arrogantly keep on truckin'. Just like the ATF,FDA and other alphabet orgs keep doing. They know they're criminal, but they just don't care, because they can.

Well, good luck to you in the DR community. They don't catch amnesia between threads, especially in the more extreme cases like yours & your partner in big pharma apparatchik apologetics.

#97
Most people ignore you because you're not worth the time to address.

LOL, but a formidable, deceptive attempt! Normally, when I get no response, it is a thread/viewpoint that destroys the false left-right paradigm, and nobody has an incentive to tackle the issue. In your case, it just the norm (when you do get responses, as I noted long ago, people are humoring you for your talking points disguised as scientific self-improvement), because everyone is on to your fraudulent complicity. Get used to it. Only losers attempt to displace their problems on someone else. Did you gain back any credibility on this thread?