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Monday, March 01, 2010

Dubai's police chief said Sunday the secretive Israeli foreign intelligence unit Mossad "needs to be ashamed" after the January killing of a Hamas leader in a Dubai hotel. "I am now 100 percent sure that the Mossad is behind the assassination" of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, said Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim. "I used to say 99 percent but now I can say 100 percent."

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Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback. It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this.

Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback.
It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this.
#1 | Posted by jackass - FLAG: jackass logic

a) "Mossad sees soaring popularity

Global media reports about Israeli secret service's involvement in Dubai assassination have created unprecedented hype, flooding the agency with job applications and career inquiries . . . Mossad's new popularity causing sales of T-shirts & apparel with Mossad logos to skyrocket would-wide . . . "

b) AP) "Son of Hamas founder was top Israeli agent"

JERUSALEM "The son of 'Hamas' founder served as a top informant for Israel for more than a decade, providing top-secret intelligence leading to arrests that helped prevent dozens of suicide bombings and other attacks against Israelis"

"Mosab Hassan Yousef, dubbed as "the Green Prince" by his handlers, was one of the Shin Bet security service's most valuable sources" . . .

If what passes for police in Dubai had felt that a man who organized the kidnapping and murder of two Israeli soldiers had acted properly, there would have been no need for Mossad to have.

So here's the message: anywhere you go in the Muslim world, the Mossad can get to you. And if you don't want Israeli assassins prowling over your country, do a better job of keeping terrorists out.

If America had balls it would hit Israel with an attack so hard that it would make Israel never use Mossad again. Israel is only as strong as we allow them to be. I pray we eventually elect leaders that see Israel as instigator nation that only exists to create chaos.

If America had balls it would hit Israel with an attack so hard that it would make Israel never use Mossad again. Israel is only as strong as we allow them to be. I pray we eventually elect leaders that see Israel as instigator nation that only exists to create chaos.

#4 | Posted by jackass

jackass, go You-Tube & view "Seinfeld, The Opposite" (#68) . . .

as YOUR every instinct is wrong, it should be helpful

thx in advance

Dubai is just pissed because Mossad killed the only paying customer in their fancy hotel.

I pray we eventually elect leaders that see Israel as instigator nation that only exists to create chaos. #4 | Posted by jackass

I will join you in that prayer... They have 200+ secret nukes but yet don't have to answer to the IAEA. WTFO? Double standards galore.

You could also pray to get Muslim extremists to quit killing innocent people.

You could also pray that Jackass finds love for the Jews, even though he's still smarting from that beatdown at the dojo by a JAP.

So here's the message: Israel will steal any country's passports to do what they want. Fucking with the security or sovereignity of another country is Israel's right.If any citizen of that country happens to get killed in response, or that country gets blacklisted by another country, big fucking deal. It's not like breaking international law is any big deal or anything.

Like if North Korea uses fake American passports to kill South Koreans, RIR will be happy. Or the KGB uses fake American passports to kill uppity Georgians...

Israel targeted and killed a known terrorist. We do it all the time via Predator drone. At least they didn't kill a bunch of civilians in the process. Good for Israel.

"Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback. It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this."

I'm pretty much indifferent to Israel but I have to say this comment only reveals that you don't know what terrorism is.

Blowing up a market full of innocent people in order to get Mossad to change its policy would be terrorism.

Killing the head of Mossad so that he can't order any more hits would be assassination.

See, Israel did not kill a bunch of random people to get this Hamas honcho to stop attacking them. That would have been terrorism.

They killed him so he can't bug them anymore, which was assassination.

Hamas does not engage in assassination. They only engage in terrorism, which is less humane and much less effective. That is one of the many reasons why they suck.

If God didn't have His hand on Israel they would not exist as a people. How many Hittites or Edomites or Jebusites do you know?

b) AP) "Son of Hamas founder was top Israeli agent"
JERUSALEM "The son of 'Hamas' founder served as a top informant for Israel for more than a decade, providing top-secret intelligence leading to arrests that helped prevent dozens of suicide bombings and other attacks against Israelis"
"Mosab Hassan Yousef, dubbed as "the Green Prince" by his handlers, was one of the Shin Bet security service's most valuable sources" . . .
#2 | Posted by markh at 2010-03-01 08:51 AM

Wow, I was right all along.. which means that there is every reason to reconsider the alleged missile attacks inside of Israel throughout their 2000-2009 genocide campaign.

There is a reason the IDF target Palestinian police first..

Israel targeted and killed a known terrorist. We do it all the time via Predator drone. At least they didn't kill a bunch of civilians in the process. Good for Israel.
#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2010-03-01 02:35 PM

And this type of post is exactly why I fear that America will suffer for having Zionists in our Pentagon and controlling the highest government officials.

Did you ever consider why there were no consequences to the IDF missiling the United Nations building in Beirut which killed Americans? Since the Israeli are so "precise" it's obvious that not only was the UN building the target, but so were the Americans inside.

"Wow, I was right all along.. which means that there is every reason to reconsider the alleged missile attacks inside of Israel throughout their 2000-2009 genocide campaign."

There is much for which Israel can be crticized in a sensible manner.

Unfortunately, that doesn't happen on this site. People sensationalize and destroy their credibility in the process.

So people like Jackass make statements indicating they don't know what "terrorism" means. And in this case, Redlight shows he has no idea what genocide is.

Hint: Given that Israel has the means to wipe out 95% of Palestinians living in the occupied territories within a week and that Palestinians are actually outbreeding Israelis, it isn't reasonable to accuse Israel of genocide. If they were really guilty of genocide over a 10 year span as you allege, there would be very few Palestinians left.

If God didn't have His hand on Israel they would not exist as a people. How many Hittites or Edomites or Jebusites do you know?

The edomites assimilated with jews and bacame in part the israelites. the jebusites became the palestinians. the hitites moved around and assimilated as well.

you can't blame them for being as self-absorbed as the israelites.

Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback. It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this.

-------

live by the sword, die by the sword.

you reap what you sow.

The difference here is Israel is attacking a known terrorist. No one complains when we go after Bin Laden. This is the same thing. Of course Israel has a right to protect itself from would be attackers.

The Mossad should have been hired by the Bush Administration to go an KILL Saddam Hussein. This would have been easier that the deaths of maybe a Million people an a TRILLION DOLLARS, so BABY BUSH COULD PROVE A POINT!!!!!!

Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback. It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this.

#1 | POSTED BY JACKASS

How would the murder of innocent women & children in a market be a valid response to this "murder" and not terrorism? If you had said that it wouldn't be terrorism if they attack some Israeli soldiers or find some Mossad agents I'd be on the same page as you that its not terrorism. But I'm not getting how setting off a bomb in a crowded civilian market wouldn't be terrorism under any circumstance.

It seems more like you're just trying to justify supporting a future attack on women and children.

If America had balls it would hit Israel with an attack so hard that it would make Israel never use Mossad again. Israel is only as strong as we allow them to be. I pray we eventually elect leaders that see Israel as instigator nation that only exists to create chaos.

#4 | POSTED BY JACKASS

America's top general just apologized to the people of Afghanistan for an attack that lead to the deaths of more than 2 dozen of their citizens. So if Al Qaeda comes to America now and blows up a shopping mall food court full of women and children that isn't terrorism according to you?

Or is it just okay to kill Jewish women and children?

"So if Al Qaeda comes to America now and blows up a shopping mall food court full of women and children that isn't terrorism according to you?"

Hopefully the mall they blow up isn't the one you work in Rob. "Auntie Anne's" patrons would be devastated.

NerfLogic

Jews targeted killing of Muslim Hamas terrorist mastermind = Bad

Muslims blowing up cafe full of Jewish women and children = Good

Given that Israel has the means to wipe out 95% of Palestinians living in the occupied territories within a week and that Palestinians are actually outbreeding Israelis, it isn't reasonable to accuse Israel of genocide. If they were really guilty of genocide over a 10 year span as you allege, there would be very few Palestinians left.

Fascinating footnote...as long as you don't kill as many people as your arsenal allows, you aren't committing genocide.

"NerfLogic

Jews targeted killing of Muslim Hamas terrorist mastermind = Bad
people like moder8 = Good"

In a nutshell, no. But you are close, damn close, in kinda a "Voyager II is still close to the solar system from a universal perspective" sort of way.

Keep firing away. Eventually you'll stop shooting yourself and hit me.

"Fascinating footnote...as long as you don't kill as many people as your arsenal allows, you aren't committing genocide."

I was pointing to the fact that the evidence obviously indicates Israel is not guilty of genocide. Israelis kill Palestinians a few at a time. They aren't systematically exterminating anyone despite having the means to do so. The Palestinian population is growing, you fool.

If the best you can do is misrepresent what someone else said, then just shut the fuck up.

"Wow, I was right all along.. which means that there is every reason to reconsider the alleged missile attacks inside of Israel throughout their 2000-2009 genocide campaign."

There is much for which Israel can be crticized in a sensible manner.
Unfortunately, that doesn't happen on this site. People sensationalize and destroy their credibility in the process.
So people like Jackass make statements indicating they don't know what "terrorism" means. And in this case, Redlight shows he has no idea what genocide is.
Hint: Given that Israel has the means to wipe out 95% of Palestinians living in the occupied territories within a week and that Palestinians are actually outbreeding Israelis, it isn't reasonable to accuse Israel of genocide. If they were really guilty of genocide over a 10 year span as you allege, there would be very few Palestinians left.
#16 | Posted by Sully at 2010-03-01 03:24 PM

Okay, partial genocide. If it were outright they would have taken over the entire West Bank during our securing the Haifa pipeline.

Palestine is shrinking into nothing through continual Israeli expansion outside of their borders and into neighboring Palestine. What kind of campaign do you call that? An open-air prison?

Considering the Israeli have been caught red-fisted stealing Palestinian organs I'd consider their "genocide" to be more of a "culling". Either way, it's ghoulish for them to do so, yet it's probable that if you are a Palestinian imprisoned by Israeli and you are a match for a wealthy transplant recipient your days are numbered. Keeping herds of humans to harvest their organs from is something less demeaning than outright genocide?

The CIA and IDF have been experimenting on the Palestinians with chemical biological weapons - because they have the Palestinians best interests at heart? Again, doesn't qualify as genocide unless there are UN investigations into human rights violations?

The systematic and deliberate eradication of all Palestinians from Israel already happened 2003-2004 - so what makes their slow, methodical eradication from within Palestine any less genocidal?

I was pointing to the fact that the evidence obviously indicates Israel is not guilty of genocide. Israelis kill Palestinians a few at a time. They aren't systematically exterminating anyone despite having the means to do so. The Palestinian population is growing, you fool.

Not the Sully definition, but it could be argued they do under the ICC definition.

..any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II

If the best you can do is misrepresent what someone else said, then just shut the fuck up.

Kiss my ass Sully...normally you are a level headed individual. But when Israel gets the least critical mention, you go from 0 to GZLives in 4.2 seconds. Watching you squeal like a pig is hilarious.

Considering the Israeli have been caught red-fisted stealing Palestinian organs I'd consider their "genocide" to be more of a "culling". Either way, it's ghoulish for them to do so, yet it's probable that if you are a Palestinian imprisoned by Israeli and you are a match for a wealthy transplant recipient your days are numbered. Keeping herds of humans to harvest their organs from is something less demeaning than outright genocide?

How about walling off entire settlements from their employers and resources?

Sully - was gassing the Kurds by Saddam Hussein an act of genocide? Wasn't he attempting to wipe them all out with the assistance of Republicans selling him the biological and chemical weapons? Would that make those Republicans in league with Saddam guilty of assisting genocide or crimes against humanity?

"Considering the Israeli have been caught red-fisted stealing Palestinian organs I'd consider their "genocide" to be more of a "culling". Either way, it's ghoulish for them to do so, yet it's probable that if you are a Palestinian imprisoned by Israeli and you are a match for a wealthy transplant recipient your days are numbered. Keeping herds of humans to harvest their organs from is something less demeaning than outright genocide?"

How about walling off entire settlements from their employers and resources?
#30 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2010-03-01 04:54 PM

Right - the Israeli starvation blockades killed thousands of innocent civilians. Even Christian aid organizations and the Red Crescent were attacked by IDF. Destroying the Palestinian parliament building was intended to force Hamas into position - and as it turns out was also part of the Israeli plan for wiping out all government cohesion.

Destroying the Palestinian parliament building was intended to force Hamas into position - and as it turns out was also part of the Israeli plan for wiping out all government cohesion.

It's the Mossad circle of life...

"Destroying the Palestinian parliament building was intended to force Hamas into position - and as it turns out was also part of the Israeli plan for wiping out all government cohesion."

It's the Mossad circle of life...
#33 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2010-03-01 05:08 PM

It perpetuated the "non-negotiations" to the point where Hamas is generally equated with Al Queda.

So they killed a known terrorist with no innocents harmed, what's the big deal? They probably even paid their hotel bills. There are worse things to worry about in the world right now, if you ask me.

So they killed a known terrorist with no innocents harmed, what's the big deal? They probably even paid their hotel bills. There are worse things to worry about in the world right now, if you ask me.
#35 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-03-01 05:21 PM

The Israeli murdered a member of the Palestinian government. They have also been known to imprison an American government official as well. The Israeli are more than likely exaggerating any Palestinian links to terrorism. And it's quite telling Zionists would have their own organizers inside of the Palestinian Hamas government - just as they do the American and French governments.

I've always suspected those thousands of Qassam missiles magically appearing to be fired from Gaza were in fact a false flag operation - and now we find out that's probably the case.

A Hamas bozo killed? Someone say it ain't so!

My heart bled copious amounts of purple piss when I read this tragic news.

You would think that eventually Hamas would figure out that maybe being Iran's proxy in the fight to destroy Israel ain't working out so well for them. And eventually, Israel is going to be placed in a situation that they will have to take on Iran directly. Then there will be real fireworks.

#20 | Posted by celisary

You have a point--but the US own policy is that we don't do or hire people to do assasinations.

Now--if we had straight up paid Saddam and his filthy sons to leave the country--that would be allowed.

So which one in the photos got this guy in bed and smothered him after drugging him?

Why have 26 people?

And this guy is now 100% sure??

He didn 't know the Hamas guy was a terrorist and let him into the country.

But he is positive Mossad is responsible.

And they photos of guests taken by cameras and point to this as proof?

He should get the Pink Panther Award!

Hopefully the mall they blow up isn't the one you work in Rob. "Auntie Anne's" patrons would be devastated.

#23 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

Why do you care so badly that Israel killed an enemy of theirs? They didn't hurt anyone else, so what's the big deal. Hamas and Israel are at war, even if it happens to be somewhat quiet at the moment. Neither recognizes the other's right to exist. Why so vehemently against Israel?

"The Israeli are more than likely exaggerating any Palestinian links to terrorism.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot"

I could be wrong, but I thought this dude admitted that he smuggled weapons into Gaza. That doesn't sound like the proper duties of a member of a legitimate gov't.

So which one in the photos got this guy in bed and smothered him after drugging him?

#40 | Posted by MURPHY at 2010-03-01 06:35 PM | Reply | Flag: SNUFF FILM FAN

It is funny how seemingly good, ordinary people can delve into justifying criminal acts when the outcome suites their perspective.

As the saying goes "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

Was Al-Mabhouh a soldier, criminal or terrorist?

Did Mossad act as soldier, criminal, or terrorist?

It's all perspective.

It's all perspective.

#44 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

Not really. There is war in that area because the Palestinians and Arabs want it. They're the ones that keep attacking Israel.

I wonder what Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank would look like if they just stopped funding the fighters and the rockets and the bombs and the guns and put that money into schools and infrastructure and just building up their society as a whole.

Rob,
It would seem that those question are better left for the Knesset. They are the one's responsible for the the lives of those poor innocent people trapped in the Gaza and West Bank under UN Guidelines for occupying forces. The Gaza is a virtual outdoor prison, while the West bank is being further divided and east jerusalem is losing it's arab population.

Lebanon is a modern ancient country whom is allowed to ally with whichever nation state they desire even if the US or Israel object.

As I said before, it's all perspective

The Gaza is a virtual outdoor prison

With rockets and enough AK-47s for a small army... just like prison.

Lebanon is a modern ancient country whom is allowed to ally with whichever nation state they desire even if the US or Israel object.

that is absolutely their right to ally with Hezbollah and Iran and anyone they want... and they also have no one to blame when Israel crushes them because that support lead to war.

Its not all about perspective. The Palestinians and Arabs surrounding Israel live in a world of shit because they are so focused on hating and trying to destroy Israel they've forgotten to live their own lives.

If the Palestinians and Lebanese put down the guns and picked up a book or a hammer life would be better for them in months. Hell they could also try signing a real peace agreement with Israel and normalizing relations with them, then establish commerce and everyone can benefit.

Nah, best just to call Hamas "freedom fighters" and blame the Jews for everything.

SNUFF FILM FAN

#43 | Posted by mOntecOre

Is that what those are??

Never seen one and wouldn't want to.

"The Israeli are more than likely exaggerating any Palestinian links to terrorism.
#36 | Posted by redlightrobot"

I could be wrong, but I thought this dude admitted that he smuggled weapons into Gaza. That doesn't sound like the proper duties of a member of a legitimate gov't.
#42 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-03-01 06:52 PM

Probably not an exaggeration, but in all likelihood isn't what it seems. Those weapons were probably brought in by someone sympathetic to IDF - giving them further "excuse" for annexing Palestine. Then again, I wouldn't have this lingering doubt if it weren't for the fact that Hamas has Zionist operators.

Otherwise, I do rail against the Israeli, but it's obvious there is everything stinky regarding their actual motives, violent actions and de-humanizing methods. For a people of such varied capability I'm disturbed they blindly hate the Palestinians. That seems purposeful and useful - to Zionists.

I don't have time to look at the weapons smuggling immediately, but I'll post something late tonight after I've assessed the available data.

It appears that Egyptian government is allegedly imposing the closed-border policy and openly opposes Hamas but unofficially criticizes Hamas for slowing weapons smuggling into Palestine indicating a potential conflict of interest. The Egyptian government operates to some extent along side of the Muslim Brotherhood who apparently have a branch in Palestine. They also allegedly use the Bedouin to move weapons obtained in Egypt - I'm working on that one, but Iran is obviously considered the common local Kalashnikov manufacturer, but parts might be shipped in separately, possibly from Israel or China.

"The real Muslim Brotherhood is not the fanatical sheikh with his equally fanatical following, nor is it even the top mullahs and ayatollahs who lead entire movements of such madmen; Khomeini, Qaddafi, General Zia are exquisitely fashioned puppets.
The real Muslim Brothers are those whose hands are never dirtied with the business of killing and burning. They are the secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchical elite, with smooth business and intelligence associations to the European black nobility and, especially, to the British oligarchy.
And the Muslim Brotherhood is money. Together, the Brotherhood probably controls several tens of billions of dollars in immediate liquid assets, and controls billions more in day-to-day business operations in everything from oil trade and banking to drug-running, illegal arms merchandising, and gold and diamond smuggling. By allying with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Anglo-Americans are not merely buying into a terrorists-for-hire racket; they are partners in a powerful and worldwide financial empire that extends from numbered Swiss bank accounts to offshore havens in Dubai, Kuwait and Hong Kong." (19)

Which is explained:

Mahmoud al-Mabhouh: To Kill a Terrorist - Exclusive Analysis.

Mabnouh had become a key figure in the weapons smuggling network between Hamas and its Iranian backers. Meanwhile Dubai has become an vital link in the chain of international terrorist operations. Its global import-export connections combined with the support of UAE leader Sheikh Zayed for Hamas, and Dubai's proximity to Iran make it a mecca for terrorist smuggling operations.

If you want to do business with Iran, the best way is to use a proxy in Dubai. This makes Dubai a perfect center for Iranian links to terrorists around the world. Dubai is a legitimate business destination that will raise the fewest suspicions of just about any Middle Eastern destination. The UAE rulers are very friendly to Iran and to such groups as Hamas. Last month Sheikh Zayed met with Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, who had also been the target of an Israeli assassination attempt. Dubai serves as one way for Iran to move money and goods over to Hamas through front organizations that are actually Iranian run, through banks that do business with Iran while pretending to do business only in Dubai, and through ports controlled by Dubai Ports World, which is itself a subsidiary of the government.>

This is interesting:

The Globalists and the Islamists: Fomenting the "Clash of Civilizations" for a New World Order

"Well, I [really] laugh when I hear the FBI talking about Al Qaeda as an organization of bin Laden... [It's really a] very simple story. If bin Laden is to receive Arabs from Saudi Arabia and from Kuwait--from other regions--he is [to] receive them in the guest house in Peshawar. They used to go to the battle field and come back, without documentation... There [was] no documentation of who has arrived. Who has left. How long he stayed. There's only [a nice general reception]. And you go there. And you join in the battle field... Now, he was embarrassed by many families when they called him and ask what happened to our son. He don't know. `Cause there's no record. There's no documentation. Now he asked some of his colleagues to start documenting the movement of every Arab coming under his umbrella... It is recorded that [they] arrived in this date and stayed in this house... Many of them had come only for two weeks, three weeks and then disappeared. That record, that documentation was called the record of Al Qaeda. So that was Al Qaeda. There's nothing sinister about Al Qaeda. It's not like an organization... I don't think he used any name for his underground group. If you want to name it, you can name it 'bin Laden group.' But if they are using the term Al Qaeda ... Al Qaeda is just a record for the people who came to Peshawar and moved from there back and forth to the guest house. And moved back to their country." (11)

Did bin Laden purchase 9/11 at Dubai Discount? The neo-cons and oil corporations he threatened in the Presidential Daily Memo are all still in power and highest profits ever = utter fail.

Makes me imagine Dubai as one of the terrorists of holdover destinations.. like a Mos Eisley casino resort.

"Kiss my ass Sully...normally you are a level headed individual. But when Israel gets the least critical mention, you go from 0 to GZLives in 4.2 seconds. Watching you squeal like a pig is hilarious."

That's complete bullshit. I respond to idiots who misuse words like "terrorism" and "genocide" and who hold the Palestinians to absolutely no standards of sensible behavior. The reason it irks me is that the dumbing down of the situation by these means is a large part of the reason it will never be resolved.

I've said many times on this site that I don't think the US should give Israel a dime no matter what they do and I hate the settlers and their supporters. Doesn't change the fact that the Palestinians are currently putting up the biggest barriers to reaching a deal. They can't even send someone to the negotiating table who can deliver on any deal that is reached - which is the minimum standard for even starting negotations. Dumbshit apologists for the terrorists who have painted the Palestinians into this corner annoy the hell out of me.

"Sully - was gassing the Kurds by Saddam Hussein an act of genocide? Wasn't he attempting to wipe them all out with the assistance of Republicans selling him the biological and chemical weapons? Would that make those Republicans in league with Saddam guilty of assisting genocide or crimes against humanity?"

Translation - I know I was wrong in what I said and you called me out on it. I am now going to change the subject and attack the GOP because I assume you are a Republican.

Guess what? I hope the GOP falls apart completely. Find some other idiot to play this game.

The only deal the right in Israel wants is the expulsion of the Palestinians. They can talk nice as they want but that is their goal. They just have to do it slow enough that it doesn't raise any eyebrows.

Hey Israel lovers, don't call it terrorism when Palestine responds to this. It'll be payback. It'll be worse though because it'll be a crowded market with women and children that will suffer for this.

#1 | Posted by jackass

hey dipshit, they have suffered b/c of this man, are you that fucking stupid?

If America had balls it would hit Israel with an attack so hard that it would make Israel never use Mossad again. Israel is only as strong as we allow them to be. I pray we eventually elect leaders that see Israel as instigator nation that only exists to create chaos.

#4 | Posted by jackass

your name is perfect dude, perfect

"The only deal the right in Israel wants is the expulsion of the Palestinians. They can talk nice as they want but that is their goal. They just have to do it slow enough that it doesn't raise any eyebrows."

Israel is not the party that renegged when they actually had a deal worked out. That wouldn't be the case if what you were saying were true. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

I don't to what extent people who encourage Palestinians to refuse a deal from overseas have an effect on the actual process. But you idiots aren't doing the Palestinians any favors. But you know that already, its more about feeling like a "rebel" than wanting to see their lives improve for people like you. I wouldn't want to see the Palestinians consider a losing fight through failed strategies unless I hated them.

#47 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Sorry for the late response,

So you are saying that the Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to protect themselves from encroachment regardless of the method (Israel is the originator of terrorism, they are victims of their own creation )?

But Israel and the US not only have the right but the obligation to it's citizens to have the strongest military money can buy?

Again perspective is needed.

Imagine yourself living in Gaza. Locked in, with NO open boarders. Where would you turn?

"The only deal the right in Israel wants is the expulsion of the Palestinians. They can talk nice as they want but that is their goal. They just have to do it slow enough that it doesn't raise any eyebrows."

Israel is not the party that renegged when they actually had a deal worked out. That wouldn't be the case if what you were saying were true. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
I don't to what extent people who encourage Palestinians to refuse a deal from overseas have an effect on the actual process. But you idiots aren't doing the Palestinians any favors. But you know that already, its more about feeling like a "rebel" than wanting to see their lives improve for people like you. I wouldn't want to see the Palestinians consider a losing fight through failed strategies unless I hated them.
#57 | Posted by Sully at 2010-03-02 12:46 PM

The Nazi called it "lebensraum" - literally "living space". The Americans called it "manifest destiny". The Israeli call theirs an "occupation".

"The Nazi called it "lebensraum" - literally "living space". The Americans called it "manifest destiny". The Israeli call theirs an "occupation"."

This doesn't mean anything. You're just babbling.

"Imagine yourself living in Gaza. Locked in, with NO open boarders. Where would you turn?"

With Gaza being run by Hamas, who is intent on continuing a strategy that has only resulted in failure, death and misery? I'd focus my energy on leaving. My grandparents left their homelands for much lesser reasons than this and their families are much better off for it.

What people like you fail to realize is Hamas' way has been tried and is a proven failure. Only suicidal idiots would continue to follow Hamas. Even from the perspective of eventually realizing the pipe-dream of "driving them into the sea", it makes the most sense to cut a deal now. Build an infastructure. Gain some respect and forge alliances (right now, many Middle Eastern nations want nothing to do with Palestinians and their self destructive ways). Collect taxes. Purchase military grade weapons. Let Israel soften up during a period a peace. Then you have the element of surprise if you want to start another war.

The dumbest thing the Palestinians can possibly do is to continue along a path that is proven to bring them nothing but loss and misery. People who tell them they have no other option but to continue doing the stupidest thing possible are not their friends. From a pragmatic standpoint, they are enemies undermining any chance Palestinians have at improving their lives.

"The Nazi called it "lebensraum" - literally "living space". The Americans called it "manifest destiny". The Israeli call theirs an "occupation"."

This doesn't mean anything. You're just babbling.
#60 | Posted by Sully at 2010-03-02 02:13 PM

Wiki: Lebensraum

Lebensraum (helpinfo) (German for "habitat" or literally "living space") served as a major motivation for Nazi Germany's territorial aggression, was a reinterpretation of the by then century-old concept of Drang nach Osten. In his book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler detailed his belief that the German people needed Lebensraum for a Grodeutschland, land, and raw materials and that it should be taken in the East. It was the stated policy of the Nazis to kill, deport, Germanise or enslave the Polish, and later also Russian and other Slavic populations, and to repopulate the land with reinrassig (racially pure) Germanic peoples. The entire urban population was to be exterminated by starvation, thus creating an agricultural surplus to feed Germany and allowing their replacement by a German upper class.

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