I thought all this socialist shit (i.e. Obamas agenda)the libs want was being done by 60's kids/radicals? Can you say bill Ayres?????

FTA...

Jim Spencer and Curtis Ellis are Democratic political consultants based in Boston and New York, respectively

Well, there ya have it. Nothin' but a hit piece.

Most Progressives Pushing Their Agenda Are Boomers Reliving The '60s

What a crock of Republican Base.

There aren't a dozen college degrees in the entire Tea Party that aren't paid agents of the billionaires footing the bill for the 'grassroots' movement.

The new Boogieman for the left. I guess Palin is washed up.

Boomers,
You are the people who gave us AIDS. You are all spoiled pieces of shit who indebted the lives of all after you. I hope that coke was good. Your free love? You make me sick.

I don't care whether a 'Boomer' is right or left. I cannot wait for you people to either die or become senile.

You all pissed away the future of your posterity. Our Nation will be bankrupt, thanks to you. Drink your wine and smoke your dope.

Thanks a lot! You will rot in Hell.

re: Can you say bill Ayres?????

#1 | Posted by em385guy at 2010-02-25 09:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can you spell it?

Thanks a lot! You will rot in Hell.

don't mention it tard..

Most Tea Party Followers Are Boomers Reliving The '60s

Oh I agree. The acid must be worse than I thought. These people must be on drugs if they believe they can force the GOP to change and to become a Constitutionally Conservative party. Time and time agains the GOP has slapped us in the face and even though they may be saying what the Tea Partiers want to hear, once they get into power they'll start loving big government again.

This article belongs in The Onion.

This article belongs in The Onion.

#10 | Posted by Dave

Except this one is true.

Wanna hear something funny. There is an engineer at my office, great guy, very smart, very competent. he is latino and about 60 yrs old.

You cannot imagine how funny it is to listen to him recite the Rush/Palin credo chapter and verse and talk about how the Liberals are ruining our country. He also thinks Beck is a genius.

I think the article would be accurate if you took Tea Partier to mean the earlier group who were followers of Ron Paul and at C-Pac he did win their straw poll for president. Those people fit the description the author describes and do seem to be identifying with a common sense of themselves involved in some noble cause. If they are going to conduct a revolution though, they better get started because it will be hard to do it when all the revolutionaries need walkers. It's also going to become more difficult to convince others to march against things like taxes while receiving Medicare.

The Tea Partiers in Naples are Rolex wearing, SUV driving, facelift-stretched Boomers who are mostly protesting the end of Bush tax cuts.

"The Tea Partiers in Naples are Rolex wearing, SUV driving, facelift-stretched Boomers who are mostly protesting the end of Bush tax cuts."

Nail on the head.

Or in the head, more likely.

I think you all have it wrong. The tea partiers aren't reliving the 60's, they are finally PROTESTING the 60's. The folks who were "protesting," smokin' pot, practicing free love, avoiding bathing, and attending Woodstock are now teaching in the universities, leaders in the Democrat Party and serving in the Obama administration. They all want "free stuff."

The Tea Partiers are NOT of the "ME" generation which started the "if it feels good, do it," and, "do your own thing," mentality that exists in our country today. They are protesting AGAINST all that.

Reliving the '60s? They must be stuck in the part of the decade where they acted like paranoids lunatic after taking seven hits of the dreaded brown acid.

and libs destroying the country are drugged out hippies trying to relive the 'feel good do it' days of yesteryear...

AND as new thread will explain

the 'feel good do it' days of yesteryear...

...have been replaced by the "feels good, bomb it" days of the previous 8 years.

There isn't a dumpster in the world large enough to accomodate the heap of rightwing filth stinking up this country. Perhaps you fools will have the decency to dump yourselves at sea. I don't expect the potential environmental consequences would bother you.

The tea partiers aren't reliving the 60's, they are finally PROTESTING the 60's. The folks who were "protesting," smokin' pot, practicing free love, avoiding bathing, and attending Woodstock are now teaching in the universities, leaders in the Democrat Party and serving in the Obama administration. They all want "free stuff."

The Tea Partiers are NOT of the "ME" generation which started the "if it feels good, do it," and, "do your own thing," mentality that exists in our country today. They are protesting AGAINST all that.

#17 | Posted by jestgettinalong

a) they DO understand . . . and in another one of their panic modes, they attempt to neutralize the threat from "regular working Americans as they "shout down", mis-lead, name-call, and generally disrupt just as they did in the 60's

ps- the shout-down/disruption crap also makes their numbers seem larger than the small minority that they actually are - -
which in turn attracts "sheeple followers" incapable thinking for themselves

psII - zombie,
history shows that it will end badly for the radicals & their sheeple . . .
it ALWAYS has, and will continue to do so

I don't follow the Tea Party to know its details. But I do think critics are missing something important. The Tea Party movement is symptomatic of a growing dissatisfaction with government oppression, corruption and incompetence.

To take one case. To save an amount in the low billions, millions are going to lose their unemployment benefits in a couple of months. Yet Washington doesn't hesitate to spent trillions to keep bankers employed. That has got to piss off a lot of people.

Jim Spencer and Cutis Ellis?? -- Ha ha.
Jeez, I wonder whether there was a pre-conceived "take away" to this story.

No shit the average "tea partier" is more affluent. The bulk of liberals have a vested interest in the unfettered growth of government - and unending handouts, courtesy of those of us with anything left in our steadily diminishing bank accounts.

I love this line - "...endowed by his creator with possessions, opinions and certain inalienable rights..."

What f-ing joke and an insult! My "creator" and by parents endowed me with a f-ing work ethic, and a belief that achievement is rightly (no pun intended) based on effort and MERIT.

JM

If you are a boomer you are full of shit. Your parents gave you everything and you never grew out of it. I'm with wurster on this one. The boomers need to just go the fuck away already. You have looted our treasury and now demand that we pay you benifits that would be avalible if you hadn't already looted them. You drove up real estate prices to where a young family can hardly start anymore. You inflated the dollar to the point that a single income family is a joke anymore. Your whiny enviornmental sensabilities have made it impossible to start a business. The boomers are a plague of locust on our country.

Work ethic my ass.

Sounds about right from all of the photos and videos I have seen on teabaggers. But I don't see them as protesters of the 60s, there were surprisingly few of them but it is talked about due to the novelty of it.

These guys are in their 50s and 60s and are scared shitless about their future because they are basically geezers getting old. They barely made a nugget in life and are so proud of it but love to look down on the poor who are only separated from them by a trivial cash flow interruption. They just love the tough talk and about their Harleys.

Amen, Tao.

A lot of self-absorbed boomers I know are still libs who smoke wacky tobaccy and put their grey hair (what's left of it) in a pony tail with a red rubber band around it.

The Tea Partiers are NOT of the "ME" generation which started the "if it feels good, do it," and, "do your own thing," mentality that exists in our country today. They are protesting AGAINST all that.

How many Tea Partiers are willing to sacrifice one dollar of their own Medicare or Social Security benefits to improve the fiscal condition of this country? My guess is almost none. They are against the growth of the federal government except for the parts they like, such as their own benefits and massive military spending.

I could see the appeal of a Tea Party that was really about a Ron Paul-style shrinking of government. But from what I see, it's just Republicanism under a new name. If their candidates get into office, I think they will borrow and spend as much as Bush did.

I could see the appeal of a Tea Party that was really about a Ron Paul-style shrinking of government.

What makes you think it isn't?

Jeff,

It was once, it's not now and hasn't been for a while. The best that can be said about the current Tea Party is that it is Republicans without the wacky religious zealots. Sadly even that is a stretch.

What makes you think it isn't?

Show me where Tea Partiers take on massive military spending and the desire to station troops all over the planet.

Show me where Tea Partiers take on massive military spending

Hmmm....if one supports a strong military then they are incapable of being serious about reducing the size of government?

3 programs make up roughly half of the budget - Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

I don't know what can be done about Medicaid, but the age of eligibility for the other 2 programs needs to be raised to 70.

Hmmm....if one supports a strong military then they are incapable of being serious about reducing the size of government?

If one doesn't have a word to say about massive defense contractor welfare or the stationing of thousands of American troops in 130 countries, then no. You're not truly serious about reducing the size of government. Ron Paul is serious. He takes on all aspects of government bloat. I can respect that.

I wonder how Jim Spencer and Curtis Ellis would describe the liberal left... Generalizing a group of people interested in re-enforcing the constitution is a good thing. But alas, the progressives have moved us way past this idea decades ago.

Is there a chance we can discuss our ideas without the bombardment of personal attacks? After reading these posts today, I think not.

RCADE-
The TPers are for limited government. There are many issues (abortion, for instance) where those views aren't put forth to any great degree. This is, instead, about a return to limited govt, smaller taxation, regulation, etc.

I think the issue of continued worldwide military presence would probably be supported by most TPers... since they'd lump that issue under "national defense" - one of the few areas where the Founding Fathers saw the need for some centralized strength.

The TEABAGGERS, are BABYBOOMERS alright but they are the BABYBOOMERS that chose to sleep thru the 1960's. They chose to use their deferments an support the Viet Nam War. They chose to study American History and the Constitution but chose not to March for Civil Rights. When they chose to fight what they fought for was against the EQUAL RIGHT AMENDAMENT.

GEORGE W. BUSH, DICK CHENEY, DAN QUYALE this is the GENESIS of the TeaBaggers. The 1960's losers who while other Students were Marching to end the War chose to support the War all the while choosing not to serve......Who while African-Americans were being denied the right to VOTE an were being beaten in the street, chose not to support the Civil Rights Act an the Voting Rights act in 1964 an 1965.....

The Election Of President Barack Obama is what the TeaBaggers are all about, does anyone really believe that if the REPUBLICANS had won the election the TeaBag movement would even gain any traction, NO FUCKING CHANCE!!!!!!!!

This is about a Fox-Republican Racist Party using the Network to try to destroy an AFRICAN AMERICAN THAT WAS LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT. That is what the TeaBaggers is all about, make no mistake just go attend one of their meeting, check out their leadership (ALL FUCKING REPUBLICANS).

Only a Fox-Republican an a viewer of Fox news would take these clowns serious.....

Yeah what he said.

Rcade,

That is part of the reason I am so disapointed in the Tea Party, it grew out of Ron Pauls run then was co-opted by the usual suspects. Sometimes I wonder if the people in the Tea Party every actualy heard Ron Paul speak?

Oh and more on the rant against boomers.

So would you all retire already? 12 years in the work force and I have not received one meaningful promotion in my life because there is always some aging boomer in the way. Retire already! The only way for my generation to make more money is lateral moves then you accuse us of not being loyal to a company. Now not being satisfied with destroying your childrens chances as you finaly do retire you take your SS benifits and go to work doing the jobs your grandkids should be doing. My daughter can not get the job I had as a 15 year old kid because grandma is baging the groceries to keep her from being boared in retirement. She can't mow lawns because of illegals. She can't deliver the paper that job is held by a boomer too. My god you want us to teach your grandkids to be responsible but the ones willing to work can't find a job thanks to you. At least when you retire go away quit hanging around taking up the few jobs teenagers could do.

Instead of getting themselves "back to the garden," they get off the grid and, like the Bill Ayers crew, indulge in fantasies about armed rebellion against the establishment.

Tell michelle to get her hired help out of the fake garden, and back on the front lines with 'Bill Ayers crew'!

TAO

Retirement age is usually 65 in this country.

How many Tea Partiers are willing to sacrifice one dollar of their own Medicare or Social Security benefits to improve the fiscal condition of this country? My guess is almost none...

#30 | Posted by rcade

How would you know? What a laugher. The holier then thou attitude of the left, ha!

Obama's call for volunteers has gone unanswered...he's got to pay them to sign up. Talk about myopic self absorbed demoRAT party....this web site specializes in denigrating the right and the center on a regular basis. Just another group for you and your messiah to blame for your own failings

STENWILLY....JOHN KERRY is a true American War hero, a fucking CHICKENHAWK like you couldn't even understand what WAR was like, so deal with the Facts, an spare us you ignorant analysis. WHY IS IT THAT YOU CLOWNS JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH FACTS!!!!!!!

"Hmmm....if one supports a strong military then they are incapable of being serious about reducing the size of government?

3 programs make up roughly half of the budget - Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

I don't know what can be done about Medicaid, but the age of eligibility for the other 2 programs needs to be raised to 70.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ"

And a vast majority of the US military spending is about either supporting US corporations (how many nuke missiles are really needed to destroy the world) or expanding the American business empire. (the US now has 800+ overseas military bases)

Medicaid and Medicare actually bring real value to the American people unlike many of the missions of the military outside of defense.

"Defense Department" What a joke of a name.

And the point is, the left would clearly sacrifice someone elses dollars.

While, if you read the retort regarding budget compromise ideas a few days ago, you would have seen almost all of the conservative posters voicing support for entitlement modification....which includes ours..not just yours

There isn't a dumpster in the world large enough to accomodate the heap of rightwing filth stinking up this country.

#21 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-02-27 01:16 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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And 99% of them call themselves "christ-like"

what a fuckin' shame

You forgot to add, moronic, uneducated, ignorant, myopic and devoid of any true knowledge of our Nations history.

On the other hand, most of the problems we have with our economy in the past 15 years have been caused by greedy boomers.

"There isn't a dumpster in the world large enough to accomodate the heap of rightwing filth stinking up this country."

Sorry but you are wrong, it's called Texas.

AU,

Thats my point half the boomers out there are still a decade away from retierment the half that have retired are taking all the starter jobs. All the while each half is as large as my entire generation.

"I guess that explains why John Kerry was so popular at the American Legion."

We love 'im at the VFW too. His picture is posted right alongside Jane Fonda's.

"JOHN KERRY is a true American War hero,..."

Damn sure is...got more medals in the less than four months he was in-country than a REAL war hero normally gets in a year. If he had stayed only three more months he woulda ended up more highly decorated than Audie Murphy and Chesty Puller put together. Too bad he threw all them medals over the White House fence. (I knew it was a lie from the beginning because all them medals he "won" woulda weighed too much to throw over a fence.)

JESTGETTINGALONG can't stand it that John Kerry got it right the day he threw those medals. He was one of the many who came home from Vietnam completely disillusioned about America's willingness to kill MILLIONS of innocent civilians in a country that never posed any threat what-so-ever to us. The fact that George Bush had just drug the country into another hugely expensive, unnecessary war in Iraq never caused them to question his judgement and thus they incredibly and stupidly voted for him a second time.
But somehow repeating the disproven lies of the Swift Boat Lying Scum justifies those two votes in some twisted way.

"John Kerry is not a hero to us at the American Legion. I know life long Dems who voted for Bush in 2004 just because of Kerry. It is not a coincidence that the only asshole who didn't get on stage with Kerry at the DNC convention was Steve Gardner. He served longer with Kerry than any of the prositutes on stage with him.One of the Kerry cock suckers served with Kerry for two weeks. When you think that Kerry only served on Swift Boats for three months. Shit I know guys who spent more time in the brig

#56 | Posted by StenWilly"

StuntedWilly, I believe he was on them for about four momths before being re-assigned. I would love to hear abut your combat experience especially considering you seemed to hang out with losers who spent time in jail rather than combat. You sound like a REMF.

"I know life long Dems who voted for Bush in 2004 just because of Kerry"

#56 | Posted by StenWilly at 2010-02-28 12:37 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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That made a lot of sense. "lets vote for a draft dodging administration, that'll show 'em"

Bush ran a nasty campaign, one that most refused to answer back at simply because it was deeply personal.

Just ask McCain. You know, the traitor, the one with the black kids in S.C.

Bush never had a landside either. 2000 was decided by the supreme court and 2004 was a very thin margin.

"JESTGETTINGALONG can't stand it that John Kerry got it right the day he threw those medals."

Maybe had you ever served and received a combat medal, you would understand the tremendous insult to thousands of Vets who undertsand their meaning and signifigance.

That made a lot of sense. "lets vote for a draft dodging administration, that'll show 'em"

1992?

STENWILLY....JOHN KERRY is a true American War hero,

#45 | Posted by celisary

damn, you'r right. That grain of rice in his ass to get him an early ticket home realy clenched it for me. Then he out-did himslef by throwing other peoples combat awards over the fence and keeping his. What a MAN!!!!!!

1992?

#62 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2010-02-28 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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???

"Maybe had you ever served and received a combat medal, you would understand the tremendous insult to thousands of Vets who undertsand their meaning and signifigance.

#61 | Posted by crispee_oc"

Which is why protesters like Charles Liteky should be listened to rather than derided. They know and lived the reality of conflict and have the medals to return to prove it.

Which is why protesters like Charles Liteky should be listened to rather than derided. They know and lived the reality of conflict and have the medals to return to prove it.

Charlie Liteky was upset over our Latin America policies and had nothing to do with my point. It had nothing to do with the "signifigance and meaning" of what they did to earn them.

Teabaggers are frightened white males, I get that. But they are NOT former civil rights protesters or former Haight Ashbury hippies.

Civil Rights, Environmentalism, and the Peace Movement were vital contributions of the so-called boomer generation and none could have occurred without the sacrifices that included imprisonment and worse. These two nitwits who claim to be experts have reduced this to people "socializing" or "yammering for attention".

AU,

Thats my point half the boomers out there are still a decade away from retierment the half that have retired are taking all the starter jobs. All the while each half is as large as my entire generation.

#53 | Posted by TaoWarrior

As pension funds have been slashed, company 401K contributions slashed or eliminated in many cases these days, and health care premiums continuing to rise at many times the rate of inflation look for people to be working longer and longer into their 60's just to get by and hang onto whatever health insurance they have if nothing else.

The GOP war on the middle class has many ramifications, at least one of which you're witnessing right now.

"By the way, I was part of a group in Pa. and NJ that donated copies of "Unfit for Duty" to local high schools in 2004."

Most of my friends in college were returned Vietnam Vets and the one's I knew applauded Kerry and were actively protesting against the war themselves. In hindsight, Robert McNamara came to his senses and admitted on national TV that the US committed war crimes in Vietnam. We left Vietnam dishonored as a nation and the invasion of Iraq added to that dishonor. Not surprisingly, the folks who wanted to justify the invasion of Iraq chose to attack the patriotism of one who actually served in that other dishonorable war but who recognized it for what it was which causes the brains of the sheep to bleed.

I am still trying to figure out how John Kerry received three purple hearts yet he never spent any time occupying a bed in a hospital. I love the story of how one "wound" that Kerry got the doctor removed the "shrapnel" with a pair of forceps and then gave Kerry a lollipop for the ride home with Mommy

#67 | Posted by StenWilly at 2010-02-28 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Me too.... let me know when you find out how Bush was AWOL and never accounted for it too

AU,

As pension funds have been slashed, company 401K contributions slashed or eliminated in many cases these days, and health care premiums continuing to rise at many times the rate of inflation look for people to be working longer and longer into their 60's just to get by and hang onto whatever health insurance they have if nothing else.

The GOP war on the middle class has many ramifications, at least one of which you're witnessing right now.

It's not just the GOP. Funny you should mention 401k's since my company for the second year is not going to be contributing to our 401k's. If you think it's sad for those poor boomers getting ready to retire imagine those right behind them who will NEVER be able to retire? SS will be long dead, our 401k's were smaller when they started getting slashed and now will not grow much larger. We will be working till we die, which will probably be before the boomers since we will not have the benifit of medicare.

Yep anyone under 45 has plenty of reason to hate the boomers most of us are too stupid to realize we should though. (thanks for the great schools boomers)

Oh and boomers what the hell have you acomplished? Out of Vietnam really took you 10 years to do that. Civil rights whatever that was started long before you came along. Enviromentalisim sure whatever you say you trashed the enviornment then passed laws to make sure the hands of your children were tied after you had done your own damage.

Hey, I'd be a tea partier but I prefer coffee.

"Oh and boomers what the hell have you acomplished? Out of Vietnam really took you 10 years to do that. Civil rights whatever that was started long before you came along. Enviromentalisim sure whatever you say you trashed the enviornment then passed laws to make sure the hands of your children were tied after you had done your own damage."

What a lot of horseshit. So what if it took 10 years? You're condemning it because it wasn't instantly successful? That's stupid. Most of the people that attack the baby boomers are rtards that just don't like liberalism, or gen-x slackers that are pissed off they missed the fun.

You sound jealous that you ain't a boomer. You should qualify just because of all your whining.

"What does Kerry's war record have to do with Bush"

~stinkwilly

Nothing really. but it is funny that you and the like on here will try to run someone into the ground that ACTUALLY made it to VN.

Your comment:

"I know life long Dems who voted for Bush in 2004 just because of Kerry"

this makes my point valid.

My friends are not going to vote for a war protestor but they'll sure as hell vote for a snot nosed, priviledged, brat that went AWOL.

Yeah that made a lot of sense.

wear your patriotism on your sleeve do ya?

Maybe they realize that they helped create this mess and they are trying to correct it.

The US Census Bureau cites Generation X as statistically holding the highest education levels when looking at age group (bloc): US Census Bureau, in their 2009 Statistical Abstract. (Also see Education Statistics Canada, 2001 Census.) Moreover, in economics, a study (done by Pew Charitable Trusts, the American Enterprise Institute, the Brookings Institute, the Heritage Foundation and the Urban Institute) challenged the notion that each generation will be better off than the one that preceded it.[18] The study, 'Economic Mobility: Is the American Dream Alive and Well?" focuses on the income of males 30-39 in 2004 (those born April, 1964 March, 1974) and is based on Census/BLS CPS March supplement data.[19]

The study, which was released on May 25, 2007, emphasized that in real dollars, this generation's men made less (by 12%) than their fathers had at that same age in 1974, thus reversing a historical trend. The study also suggests that per year increases in the portion of father/son family household income generated by fathers/sons have slowed (from an average of 0.9% to 0.3%), barely keeping pace with inflation, though increases in overall father/son family household income are progressively higher each year because more women are entering the workplace, contributing to family household income.[20]

Yeah I'm the 13th generation higher education and lower income than my parents. It's nice how you love to call my generation slackers and whiners when we point to how you fucked up a good country but I expect you still want us slackers and whiners to cover your retierment huh? Maybe we should just slack off on that part too and put you all on ice flows.

Baby boomers didn't fuck up anything. The 60s blew away the paranoid, white-male culture of the 50s and opened it up for everyone. The culture is vastly more liberal, tolerant, and diverse today because of it. And now baby boomers are driving the legalization of cannabis. The Gen-xers are whining all the way to the dispensary.

"Yeah I'm the 13th generation higher education and lower income than my parents."

So what? You blame the baby boomers for that? Real wages in America have been stagnant for decades, as globalization sets in and drives down wages for everybody.

Really Null you guys fucked up the economy so much that now you want to tax something you did as a kid? I'm suposed to buy that this is good for me and part of the altruistic boomers?

Lets see you screwed up free love, killed free music already so now your ready to take on free drugs.

Which generation globilized the economy there Null? Thanks for that one too. Keep going this just keeps getting easier.

#75 | Posted by TaoWarrior

It wasn't Boomers who decided to start union busting. It was Reagan who started that whole meme that paying a living wage is bogus. It's right wingers on this site that bitch and moan about unions who created the middle class with living wages.

It was during the Reagan era that the saying 'he who dies with the most wins. It was the GOP who deregulated everything in sight, passed tax breaks for companies to move lock, stock and barrel overseas, and encouraged the greedy culture that's resulted in CEO's going from 27X average worker's salary to 275X the average worker's salary.

Boomers didn't start Vietnam. A boomer started Iraq - which has cost us more than Vietnam.

The GOP has been at war with the working class of this country for 30 years. You're living with the results.

Why voters vote against their own best interests - taking the word of multimillionaires who whine on the radio - is puzzling to say the least.

"Really Null you guys fucked up the economy"

We fucked up the economy? We created globalization? Your attempt to link a particular generation with global changes in the economy is dumb. Correlation is not causation.

AU,

Boomers represent more than 1/3 of the voting public and have since Carter. So blaming the GOP or the DNC is still blaming the boomers. If the boomers didn't want that shit why did they vote it into office? Us X'ers would have to vote as a single voting block to have the influence of 1/2 the boomers. The demographics don't lie EVERYTHING political that has happened since Carter can be laid at the feet of the boomers.

I don't mind boomers that are legitimatly trying to fix this mess but they are few and far between. Most are just scurrying to secure their retierment no matter the cost.

"I didn't have to try to run Kerry into the ground. He did it himself."

That's a fact.

His picture would be at my Legion post if the Hanoi Jane urinal mats weren't so popular.

Kerry is treasonous swine.

Most Abortionists Are "Self"-Absorbed Racists.

The inconvenience to "self" trumps the right to life of the future human - especially in the case of minority populations where to benefits of abortion to society are the most stark.

By this, they readily accept killing off 50% of the future Black population, each and every year.

so says state run media. collectively, i doubt it equals the self obsession of our incompetent and prissy president.

Baby boomers didn't fuck up anything.

#82 | Posted by nullifidian

So.... who was it that ran our economy into the ground with their "give it to me now. All of it!!" the last 10 years?

"So.... who was it that ran our economy into the ground with their "give it to me now. All of it!!" the last 10 years?"

Well....it was baby boomers who initially worked us to surpluses. And then GWB inherited those surpluses, and left deficits. He could have used the monies to shore up long-term problems, but chose tax cuts for the wealthiest and a war of choice instead.

Tell us...what do you think the history books will conclude?

Tell us...what do you think the history books will conclude?

#94 | Posted by Danforth at 2010-02-28 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Buyers remorse for W. and Hallicheney

NO SHIT!

The tea party movement EXISTS because of fox news. the most obvious plutocratic propaganda tool that has ever existed.

suckers being played by the financial elite to further empower and enrich themselves at the expense of the human race.

their anger is a symptom of genuine problems, but they have aligned themselves with the sources of the problems instead of an opposition force.

Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-N-
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RCADE sez:Hmmm....if one supports a strong military then they are incapable of being serious about reducing the size of government?
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They're all civil service workers.

Boomers,
You are the people who gave us AIDS. You are all spoiled pieces of shit who indebted the lives of all after you. I hope that coke was good. Your free love? You make me sick.
I don't care whether a 'Boomer' is right or left. I cannot wait for you people to either die or become senile.
You all pissed away the future of your posterity. Our Nation will be bankrupt, thanks to you. Drink your wine and smoke your dope.
Thanks a lot! You will rot in Hell.

#6 | POSTED BY WURSTER

ditto

The Gen-xers are whining all the way to the dispensary.

#82 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

'fraid not motherfucker.

Die already

The Gen-xers are whining all the way to the dispensary.

#82 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

'fraid not motherfucker.

Die already

#101 | Posted by Legio

I'll second that!

"Boomers,
You are the people who gave us AIDS."

What a nutcase. Must be some dumb GenX slacker.

Die already

#101 | Posted by Legio

I'll second that!

#102 | Posted by STIRSUMUP

Fuck off slackers. Baby boomers gave you the Internet and computers for you to spout your moronic drivel.

Most Progressives Pushing Their Agenda Are Boomers Reliving The '60s

#3 | Posted by KBM

This is true.

But for the Tea Partiers, if "Self Absorbed" means protected the American Dream or protecting the feable wealth we in the middle class has been working to hard for decades or protecting the level of liberty that no group of humans have ever enjoyed in the history of man? Yeah, ok, I'll say they are self absorbed.

You are all correct in that it is the boomers that messed this country up. it isn't limited to the right as barney, harry, chris and nazi have done more than their share also. Instead of pissing and whining, why don't you do something really wild, like getting involved, learning about the issues and voting for someone that will make the tough decisions like cutting spending, increasing taxes and getting a balanced budget. both "R" and "D" are responsible for where we are now and expecting them to fix it is pure insanity

Fuck off slackers. Baby boomers gave you the Internet and computers for you to spout your moronic drivel.

yeah, a few hundred of them. so what?

you weren't one of them. the rest of you......slackers.

And then GWB inherited those surpluses, and left deficits. He could have used the monies to shore up long-term problems, but chose tax cuts for the wealthiest and a war of choice instead.

Tell us...what do you think the history books will conclude?

that GWB was a babyboomer.

you weren't one of them. the rest of you......slackers.

#107 | Posted by eberly

You don't know shit about what I've produced. I can assure it's more substantial than insurance paperwork.

What a crock of Republican Base.

There aren't a dozen college degrees in the entire Tea Party that aren't paid agents of the billionaires footing the bill for the 'grassroots' movement.

#4 | Posted by axe

I find statements like this amazing!

Axe, you are about 21 years old, your parents never amounted to anything or they are University Professors--again, never amounted to anything.

Your opinions of life in the US is either read or told to you by peers and teachers because you have never experienced life in the "real world" of this country.

"your parents never amounted to anything or they are University Professors--again, never amounted to anything."

Quite telling: Haskell thinks achievement via formal learning and knowledge is worthless. Anyone here surprised?

You don't know shit about what I've produced.

no. but whatever it is, I don't give a shit what generation you are in.

I can assure it's more substantial than insurance paperwork.

you are sure of what I produce though.

LOL

I make money for everybody. and I protect large amounts of assets for my clients.

#110 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-03-01 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag: Proud owner of "Intelligence Sucks!" T shirt

"Haskell thinks achievement via formal learning and knowledge is worthless."

Depends upon whether it's real LEARNING or "indoctrination" and BS. Spending one's life in academia doesn't qualify one to run the world. May I refer you to Truman who was one of our best leaders in my opinion. Just because someone carries a card with PhD after his or her name doesn't automatically convey confidence in that person's abilities.

"Proud owner of "Intelligence Sucks!" T shirt"

Except Eddie's reads "Entelijents Sukks".

#115 | Posted by Danforth at 2010-03-01 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag: FUNNY!

"Just because someone carries a card with PhD after his or her name doesn't automatically convey confidence in that person's abilities."

I never said it did. I merely pointed out it follows that a dunce would believe University Professors have "never amounted to anything".

I never said it did. I merely pointed out it follows that a dunce would believe University Professors have "never amounted to anything".

we could argue that. but I would agree that just because they are a professor doesn't mean they never amounted to anything.

but the same broad brush was first applied by Axe.

Quite telling: Haskell thinks achievement via formal learning and knowledge is worthless. Anyone here surprised?

#111 | Posted by Danforth

Danforth, I have 2 degrees, BS Comp Sci and MBA plus various Software Certifications.

I am "forcing" my boys to get at least a Bachelor. I know the quality received from a formal education. But, I also have the wisdom to KNOW that it's not the only thing in the world! There's this thing called Practical Experience. I'm sure you know what that is unless you really aren't a working accountant (CPA?) and are just an instructor (those who can't...).

#110 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-03-01 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag: Proud owner of "Intelligence Sucks!" T shirt

#113 | Posted by Corky

Corky,

When you actually get your Bachelor's you need to use it in the real world to get something out of it.

What's your degree in Corky?

Oh, yeah, you lied to me last week telling me that you hire people and pay them. All you do is supervise them. There's a differece!

Corky? Danforh?

You there?

*crickets*

Quite telling: Haskell thinks achievement via formal learning and knowledge is worthless. Anyone here surprised?

#111 | Posted by Danforth

You got it wrong as usual.

Danforth, you may not realize this, but the "tenured professor" is not what it used to be. There are many really good teachers, but most are not worth the salary and have no business being tenured.

My degrees are in psych and counseling... which is why I feel so sorry for you.

As CEO of a small corporation, I do more than supervise, thank you ever so much for your concern.

And do keep posting your inanities.... it's always nice to smile in the AM.

"You got it wrong as usual. "

I quoted you directly, Einstein.

""I have 2 degrees, BS Comp Sci and MBA plus various Software Certifications."

But you got them from University Professors, who "never amounted to anything".

"There's this thing called Practical Experience. I'm sure you know what that is unless you really aren't a working accountant (CPA?) and are just an instructor (those who can't...)."

I'm not an accountant. I'm a 30-year working actor who was besieged by his fellow artisans 25 years ago for help with their taxes, finances, and investments. Without ever spending a dime on advertisement, I now have about 300 clients. And I'm in rehearsal to open a World Premiere on Friday. Practical Experience, of many stripes, I've got. And in the mix, I have great respect for University Professors.

"May I refer you to Truman who was one of our best leaders in my opinion."

I concur.

"Truman's plan for national health insurance in 1945 was different than FDR's plan in 1938 because Truman was strongly committed to a single universal comprehensive health insurance plan. Whereas FDR's 1938 program had a separate proposal for medical care of the needy, it was Truman who proposed a single egalitarian system that included all classes of society, not just the working class. He emphasized that this was not "socialized medicine."

-And I'm in rehearsal to open a World Premiere on Friday

Congrats Dan!

Break a leg.

Break a leg Dan!!! I wish you all the best!

Most Republicans are selfish, me-firsters. Why should it surprise anyone that a group of extreme Republicans, Tea Partiers, are self absorbed? Makes logical sense to me.

Thanks, folks. It's been an exciting time. We've been able to work with the author, first in a weeklong workshop, and then the first week of rehearsal. She's been a real doll, and very open to any suggestions we've made; we're all interested in seeing her again this week as we preview (W & Th) and open Friday. It's a 4 character light romantic comedy, and I play the male lead, so twice per perfomance I have to make out with a cute grad student who's about half my age.

Ahhhh, the sacrifices I make for my art....

Most Republicans are selfish, me-firsters. Why should it surprise anyone that a group of extreme Republicans, Tea Partiers, are self absorbed? Makes logical sense to me.

#128 | Posted by moder8

Really? Then how is it then that conservatives give more to charities, as a percentage of income, than liberals do?

Always remember, liberals love to give - but with other peoples money.

The whole mentality of being adamantly anti-taxation has a selfish aspect to it. As if these people don't understand that our schools, our roads, our law enforcement, our firemen and our military are all maintained via tax. It is the same "I got mine, screw you" mentality that we see in those opposed to healthcare reform. Without taxes, America is just another third world oligarchy.

The whole mentality of being adamantly anti-taxation has a selfish aspect to it. As if these people don't understand that our schools, our roads, our law enforcement, our firemen and our military are all maintained via tax. It is the same "I got mine, screw you" mentality that we see in those opposed to healthcare reform. Without taxes, America is just another third world oligarchy.

#131 | Posted by moder8

Because without a healthy economy, there are no taxes.

Just take a look at Chicago and you will see why conservatives support real-world businesses...

...before they support more taxation by corrupt and inept government.

The whole mentality of being adamantly anti-taxation has a selfish aspect to it. As if these people don't understand that our schools, our roads, our law enforcement, our firemen and our military are all maintained via tax. It is the same "I got mine, screw you" mentality that we see in those opposed to healthcare reform. Without taxes, America is just another third world oligarchy.

#131 | Posted by moder8

This is sort of like blaming a battered spouse for wanting a divorce...

...if government actually had respect for all the money they confiscate, there would be far more trust in government.

By paying taxes, we are all hapless enablers of bad government behavior.

Government does not "confiscate" money. If that really is how you view our funding of public necessities, there can be no real discussion about taxes with you.

As CEO of a small corporation, I do more than supervise, thank you ever so much for your concern.

#123 | Posted by Corky

The reason I say that you are stretching the actual truth (lying) is because if you really were financially responsible, then you would be not be talking the way you do. I predict that once you start having to deal with local, state and federal regulations concerned with employees, you will change your tune.

I'm not an accountant. I'm a 30-year working actor who was besieged by his fellow artisans 25 years ago for help with their taxes, finances, and investments. Without ever spending a dime on advertisement, I now have about 300 clients. And I'm in rehearsal to open a World Premiere on Friday. Practical Experience, of many stripes, I've got. And in the mix, I have great respect for University Professors.

#124 | Posted by Danforth

LOL!! Ok, I believe that but I never heard you say that you are an actor before! Wow! An actor who helps with taxes! That is a unique niche, I'd say. My second son is a young actor and gets paid on 1099 and W-2 over the last couple of years. His tax return is interesting and I let my CPA do his. He gets to write off haircuts and wardrobe!!! How cool is that?

About U. Profs I have an immense respect for a few Professors in my past and an immense contempt and disgust for a slightly larger number of others (who are actually tenured!). Obviously, I can't speak for ALL of the professors in the world, but the trend tends to be those who lock themselves in ivory towers and isolate themselves from the real world and then pretend they know! And then look down their collective (did I use that word?) noses at those in the real world who are innovating, driven by making a profit! Hey! I've produced break-throughs in automation in my practice outside the University!

I'm not concerned about their ability to teach the material required in the curriculum, but rather the extra crap that they add on it and try to pass it off as the truth!

BTW, I've had acquaintances (AXE) whose parents are U. Profs and they all seem to have some sort of neurosis or another. Sure, it's not limited to them

"He gets to write off haircuts and wardrobe!!! How cool is that? "

Very cool, until he gets audited. Haircuts can't be written off unless they're specifically required for the character, not reimbursed by the hirer, and not in any way a benefit for the person. Orange spiked hair, yes; a military cut for A Few Good Men, no. Same with wardrobe. If if CAN be worn on the street, it's not deductible. A clown costume, yes; a business suit, even if it's only worn for auditions, no. About the only odd victory I got was for a pedicure...because it was for a stage play around a pool, the woman had never gotten one before (or since), and the show was running in upstate NY in February. It was hard for the auditor to argue the taxpayer got any personal benefit from it.

I'd be worried if your CPA is giving him incorrect information. As you mentioned, this is a rather specialized field, and there are many court cases spelling out what's allowable and what's not.

Also, on the W-2s and 1099s, be sure he's allocating expenses. I've seen too many folks mistakenly put ALL expenses on the Schedule C, which should only reflect the 1099 expenses, or a proportional percentage of that year's performing income (for things like resumes, where you invest in them without knowing which type of income they'll produce).

Most Republicans are selfish, me-firsters. Why should it surprise anyone that a group of extreme Republicans, Tea Partiers, are self absorbed? Makes logical sense to me.

#128 | Posted by moder8

OF COURSE it seems logical to you! You keep telling yourself the same lie that others have told you and you do this over and over.

If you lie to yourself enough, it becomes the truth.

Actually, Republicans give more than Democrats.

College Educated? Really?

Have you ever seen the protest signs? The spelling is hardly indicative of a college grad.

I'd be worried if your CPA is giving him incorrect information. As you mentioned, this is a
#137 | Posted by Danforth

I'm always intimidated by an audit, but that's why I did a lot of searching before I found her. She's had clients audited, but never lost and audit in the 30 years she's being doing taxes.

I trust her.

But I hear you with the haircuts and wardrobe and I believe you. And yeah, he keeps all of the audition calls (with descriptions of haircut and wardrobe) and the receipt, so he's good.

But it still is left up to interpretation--you know that.

Also, if he buys a white shirt of a specific cut for a part and can document it, then he's writing it off. He's just the type to bring it to court--he won't be intimidated as easily as me. He's young and full of piss and vinegar.

Government does not "confiscate" money. If that really is how you view our funding of public necessities, there can be no real discussion about taxes with you.

#134 | Posted by moder8

Funding public necessities? Are you kidding?

Let me give you my view on this. I am not Libertarian because I believe in local taxes - property and sales. They are used for fire, police, roads, etc. We all know this. I don't think a state incomes tax is completely necessary and I say this because I don't like the progressive income tax. We have it at the state level, most probably because of the Federal income tax.

This is why I don't like paying federal income taxes. It's mostly because I pay someone every year to report to the feds what I do all year in order to figure out "my fair share" of a bill that all goes to pay for non-domestic spending by the federal government!!!

This is true. Every dime in Federal Income tax goes overseas!!! A $trillion a years comes in from income taxes and a $trillion goes out every year to support the empire.

College Educated? Really?

Have you ever seen the protest signs? The spelling is hardly indicative of a college grad.

#139 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Our of 10,000 signs, they find 2 that are misspelled?

So, which ones get shown?! LOL!!!!

But, you knew this so you are dishonest.

if you didn't, then you're an idiot.

Your choice.

can't be more self-absorbed than the guy the tea baggers worshipped for 8 years, George "I'm a Mission Accomplishin' war prezdint" Bush.

Just take a look at Chicago and you will see why conservatives support real-world businesses...

Like ENRON, Toyota and the chi-com "have some lead" businesses? Compare Chicago with such corporate luminaries as CitiGroup, TWA, PAN_AM, American Motors, Studebaker, etc. etc.
Or even with companies that exist only because of government purchases like McDonnell-Douglas...

can't be more self-absorbed than the guy the tea baggers worshipped for 8 years, George "I'm a Mission Accomplishin' war prezdint" Bush.

#143 | Posted by northguy3

wow! are you too self absorbed to understand that the Tea Party is as equally opposed to neocon(ism) as they are to Socialism.

"Our of 10,000 signs, they find 2 that are misspelled?
So, which ones get shown?! LOL!!!!
#142 | Posted by Eddie"

I think it was the one that read, "Try to Take It Our of Out Cold Dead Fingers."

"She's had clients audited, but never lost and audit in the 30 years she's being doing taxes. "

She may never have had an artisan audited, especially one who was writing off haircuts.

"But it still is left up to interpretation--you know that. "

It's been clearly decided in case law. No auditor will interpret it otherwise.

"Also, if he buys a white shirt of a specific cut for a part and can document it, then he's writing it off."

He shouldn't. It's not deductible IF he can wear it on the street.

"He's just the type to bring it to court--he won't be intimidated as easily as me."

That doesn't mean he still won't lose, and have to pay interest and possibly penalties.

That doesn't mean he still won't lose, and have to pay interest and possibly penalties.

#147 | Posted by Danforth

But that's the risk, right? Penalties and interest, that's better than Vegas odds!!!

Do they audit artisans that much? I don't know.

You hear rumors, like the IRS will "attack", I mean focus, on an industry and possibly a region of the country and heavily audit that group for a few years, then move on to their next victim after whipping them into shape.

Is it that way with artisans or do they prey on them constantly?

Back in the early eighties, I was setting up accounting systems for "Crawfish" farmers in South Louisiana because the IRS told them that they would be left alone if they used certain techniques of accounting. I don't know how that played out. Of course, they were paying very little in taxes anyway because they didn't make much money wink, wink. Who can tell how much money is changing hands if it's all cash... including the payroll.

That was then... I'll bet nothing's changed and the IRS just left them alone because so many retired!

"But that's the risk, right? Penalties and interest, that's better than Vegas odds!!!"

Not my approach. I believe one should tell the truth, pay the taxes, and sleep well at night.

"Do they audit artisans that much? I don't know."

They've announced specifically targeting folks with self-employment income, including 1099s. And they have, big time.

"Back in the early eighties, I was setting up accounting systems for "Crawfish" farmers in South Louisiana because the IRS told them that they would be left alone if they used certain techniques of accounting."

That's not unusual. Similar with tipped employees. The IRS worked out a formula whereby, if establishments participate, the IRS promises not to audit employees based on tips. It worked so well they extended it.

"Of course, they were paying very little in taxes anyway because they didn't make much money wink, wink. Who can tell how much money is changing hands if it's all cash... including the payroll."

What you're describing is tax fraud. I'm clear to all my clients: declare every penny. Over-deducting (i.e., haircuts) can get you penalties and fines; under-reporting can get you sent to jail. About once a year, I refuse a client because I can tell they're lying to me about their income. No thanks.