Strange, i was unaware of any serious "dispute" over the existence of the Kingdom of Israel.

If they ever find strong evidence of the biblical flood, it will also provide 'proof' for half a dozen other, older flood stories. Little in the bible is original.

Shhhhhhh!

Well, the flood story is ancient, from countless cultures the world over.
I'm certain it comes from something, but not a 40-day-long downpour.

I think the headline is misleading, although I took it directly from the source. Perhaps I should have changed it.

The evidence mentioned doesn't "prove" the Bible, as the Bible itself can't be proven.
Elements of it can be, such as the existence of the Kingdom of Israel and Jerusalem as it's capital.
Thing is, as I said, I wasn't aware that there had been any dispute about that.

Strange, i was unaware of any serious "dispute" over the existence of the Kingdom of Israel.

#1 | Posted by TheTom

as I recall only one tablet with the inscription "house of David" was ever found. If King Solomon and King David were such powerful rulers you would think there would be more evidence for their existence.

So yes there is some dispute as to whether they existed at all but mostly if they did were they as powerful as described in the _oly _ible.

Someone else put it better than I....

We can name all of the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt, we have monuments that they had created, documents of their actions, treaties they signed, mention of them by other nations and their tombs (sometimes their corpses too). We know the names of the Kings of Persia (the King of Kings), as with the Egyptians we have the monuments, documents, etc. We can repeat this with every ancient state in that area, even small city states such as Ugarit and Tyre, but when it comes to the illustrious KingDavid and his even more venerated son Solomon, not a single shred of evidence. Not one monument, not one egotistical carving declaring that either King defeated an enemy or dedicated something to YHWH, not one document (Israelite, Babylonian, Egyptian, Assyrian, Hittite or other nation) mentions either King. Even Hiram of Tyre, supposedly a good buddy of Solomon, never mentions ol' Sol at all. When it comes to evidence of either King, as the saying goes, the silence is deafening! It's almost as if they never existed!

Archaeologist sees proof for Bible in ancient wall

And I've seen jeebus on a dog's butt(on the Internet)...
The Virgin Mary on a sun damaged window in a commercial building.....

Does that make me an Archeologist?

#5 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY
"So yes there is some dispute as to whether they existed at all but mostly if they did were they as powerful as described"

Good point. They weren't really "major players" on the world stage of the time.
Of course, from the perspective of Jewish writings about the time, they'd be very important.

One thing to remember about Egypt and Persian is that they kept a great deal of records, lasted for centuries, and through conquest left their mark all over the place.

Places like Tyre and Ugarit were much smaller city-states, and Ugarit was gone by the time David rolled around.

I'm not aware of any reference to Hiram of Tyre outside of scripture (and Masonic tradition). There's an Assyrian reference to a Tyrian king who was supposedly the son of Hiram, but the timeline is way too far off.

In any case, outside references really don't appear until much later in the life of Israel/Judah. And most Biblical writings are dated centuries after David and Solomon.

I wonder how much better the bible would be if it was in a blog format. Under every page, a comments section from contemporaries.

I think the greatest FF vote getter would be Peter with the following gem:

"One theory is that Jesus would tool around in an old Plymouth because "the Bible says God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in a Fury."

But in Psalm 83, the Almighty clearly owns a Pontiac and a Geo. The passage urges the
Lord to "pursue your enemies with your Tempest and terrify them with your Storm."

Perhaps God favors Dodge pickup trucks, because Moses' followers are warned not to go up a mountain "until the Ram's horn sounds a long blast."

Some scholars insist that Jesus drove a Honda but didn't like to talk about it. As proof, they cite a verse in St. John's
gospel where Christ tells the crowd, "For I did not speak of my own Accord."

Meanwhile, Moses rode an old British motorcycle, as evidenced by a Bible passage
declaring, "the roar of Moses' Triumph is heard in the hills."

Joshua drove a Triumph sports car with a hole in its muffler: "Joshua's Triumph was
heard throughout the land." And, following the Master's lead, the Apostles car-pooled in a Honda: "The Apostles were in one Accord.""

#9 | POSTED BY ANDYUHENET

This idea is so twisted, it just might work.
FF!

"Does that make me an archeologist....?"

Nope. But if you consistently dismiss science because you think the implications conflict with your worldview----Well, that pretty much makes you the guy that sees Jesus on a dog's butt, doesn't it?

"Israeli" and "archaeology" do not mix. They have been inventing religious "artifacts" and selling them abroad for ever now - because they are lying about their origins.

Again, David isn't even a Hebrew name!

"Again, David isn't even a Hebrew name!"

What is it then?

Again, David isn't even a Hebrew name!

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2010-02-22 10:45 PM

Some sources tend to disagree with you.

From Wikipedia:

The name "David" (pronounced /ˈdeɪvɪd/ DAY-vid) is derived from the Biblical Hebrew name דָּוִד (Dāwiḏ IPA: [daːˈvi]), meaning "Beloved".

The most important bearer of the name is David, the second king of a united Kingdom of Israel and a major figure in the Bible and the Qur'an. The name [David] occurs over 1000 times in the Hebrew Bible, making it the third most often-occurring name, after Moses and Abraham. In Israel, "Dudi" is a common nickname for David, in the same way Bill is for William in English....

why did Noah bring two roaches? what a dick.

#7 Frankf55> And I've seen jeebus ... Does that make me an Archeologist?

If you were even remotely close to being an archeologist, you'd know what the name 'Jebus' actually means.

King David's Palace Is Found, Archaeologist Says

There are remains from the 10th century in Jerusalem, he said, but proof of a strong, centralized kingdom at that time remains "tenuous."

Maybe the headline is a little misleading...? But whataya expect!

I thought the Jews were forbidden from excavating anything near the temple mount?

Anywho, if pottery shards are "proof for the bible", what are wisdom teeth? If god created man, why the coccyx or appendix? Are those worthless parts evidence of something, too?

The mysteries of the bible can be easily solved. Trying to read the mind of god won't help. All you need to do is assume for one second that the bible was written by a bunch of scared, hungry, ignorant mammals that didn't have the slightest understanding of the planet they lived on or the greater universe around them. Once you do that all the questions, contradictions, and immoral instructions clear up all on their own.

This particular question has a more obvious explanation. See Cork's link:
The find will also be used in the broad political battle over Jerusalem -

Ah Ha! Mystery solved.

#15 | POSTED BY AUNTIESOCIAL
"why did Noah bring two roaches? what a dick."

FF!

Such small blocks may indicate the architectural date to be more recent.

why did Noah bring two roaches? what a dick.

#15 | Posted by AuntieSocial

Did noah bring fish on the ark, in aquariums?

Did Noah bring aligators on the ark? how bout other amphibians like frogs or toads?

Did noah bring 2 ants on the ark cause i may be mistaken but how does an ant colony survive with only two ants?

Did noah bring koala bears and tazmanian devils and kangaroos? cause australia wasnt even heard of?

Why didnt noah bring dinosaurs on the ark?

People worrying about Noah? Archeological evidence supporting the Bible must have been found.

Oh, let me see---I remember---Lack of evidence always counts against but actual evidence never counts for---Have I got the atheist meme down correctly?

"Man that was one big ark...."

Serious discussion of Genesis is, and will forever be, impossible here.

But if God is God, if there is even the remotest chance of that being true, then He can do with that ark and two million species anything He damn well pleases.

Archeologists see proof of bible in wall?

at 1 animal per second entering the ark that is 6 weeks NON STOP to enter the lower range of numbers 4 million just to have the animals enter the ark

1 animal per second

for the upper range that would be around 6.5 years just to get the animals on the ark if 1 animal entered the ark every second.

now lets examine size

lets say the average size of an animal is the size of a mouse, say 2 inches by 3 inches or 1/2 square foot

JUST for the animals the ark would have to have between 1 MILLION and 100 MILLION square feet of space just for the animals to stand

1 million square feet of standing room.

Say 10 story high ark

100,000 SF per story or a 5,000 by 20,000 foot wide by long ark or say a 1 mile by 4 mile ark

just saying

now now now spuddie, my bible says 1 pair of animals and my bible is the one true bible so you must be wrong

now now now spuddie, my bible says 1 pair of animals and my bible is the one true bible so you must be wrong

The Catholic church does not take a literal view of the bible - it was written by man and they both know it and acknowledge it.

so what you are saying is that the bible contains.... umm falsehoods, errors, lies, stories?

hmmmm now how would one differentiate between them?

faith?

now now now spuddie, my bible says 1 pair of animals and my bible is the one true bible so you must be wrong.

#25 | POSTED BY ZED
"Serious discussion of Genesis is, and will forever be, impossible here."

Difficult, but not impossible.
On the other hand, taking Genesis seriously is, and will forever be, pointless.

#27 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Truth, you need to develop a better appreciation for the wonderful world of mythology.
/tongue firmly in cheek