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Monday, February 22, 2010

A Fox News guest believes the network is squelching criticism of Saudis because one of their princes, Alwaleed bin Talal, has become the fourth largest voting shareholder of Fox's parent company News Corp. "The prince has repeatedly defended his homeland as a problem-free place. What he has failed to mention is that he has personally donated huge amounts of money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers," writes Joseph Trento. "Alwaleed is the same Saudi prince who made headlines right after 9/11 when he personally went to Ground Zero and offered then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani a $10 million check for the relief efforts. But Alwaleed could not keep his mouth shut. He released a bizarre statement that blamed the attacks not on the 15 airline hijackers from Saudi Arabia but on the United States' support of Israel."

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Alwaleed is the same Saudi prince who made headlines right after 9/11 when he personally went to Ground Zero and offered then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani a $10 million check for the relief efforts. But Alwaleed could not keep his mouth shut. He released a bizarre statement that blamed the attacks not on the 15 airline hijackers from Saudi Arabia but on the United States' support of Israel. Giuliani, "America's mayor," saw a political opportunity and, confident that his reaction was appropriate, immediately refused the prince's donation. He said: "There is no moral equivalent for this attack."

Giuliani, who is a frequent guest on Fox shows, was widely praised at the time for turning back the prince's money. Flash forward nine years. Since the prince upped his ante in his Fox/News Corp. holdings, we have not heard much from the normally vociferous Fox hosts.

Not such a bizarre claim since on 9/11 police actually apprehended a Mossad terrorist cell who were so fucking busy celebrating the death of thousands of Americans as commercial airliners exploding upon impacting the World Trade Center buildings that they failed notice how utterly out of place their behavior might appear to us Americans.
Perhaps not coincidentally in May 2001, when Dov served at the Pentagon, it was an SPS (his firm's) subsidiary, Tridata Corporation, that oversaw the investigation of the first "terrorist" attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. This would have given them intimate knowledge of the security systems and structural blueprints of the World Trade Center. From the '90s through 2001, WTC Security was handled by Securacom, a Kuwait-American firm, on whose board Marvin Bush, the president's brother, sat. After 9/11, Securacom was let go, changed its name to Stratosec, and was delisted from the Stock Exchange in 2002.

According to Conspiracy News.net writers Shadow and 'Pax' in Dov Zakheim and the 9/11 Conspiracy, "According to the SPC website, a recent customer at that time was Eglin AFB, located in Florida. Eglin is very near another Air Force base in Florida, MacDill AFB, where Dov Zakheim contracted to send at least 32 Boeing 767 aircraft, as part of the Boeing /Pentagon tanker lease agreement.

"As the events of September 11, 2001 occurred, little was mentioned about these strange connections, and the possible motives and proximity of Dov Zakheim and his group. Since there was little physical evidence remaining after the events, investigators were left only with photographic and anecdotal evidence.

"There is a photograph of the Flight Termination System module, from their site.(5). Note it has a cylindrical shape, and is consistent with the size and shape of the object observed under the fuselage of flight 175.
LINKY.

"According to Conspiracy News.net writers ......"

not much else to say, except by Boob.

I'm sure Glenn Beck will give us the patriotic viewpoint of the new stockholder in Fox. We all know he is so courageous and bold and doesn't dance to anyone's tune. I'm sure Hannity will stand up and be counted too.

And the point is? Let's ask Bill Clinton. Better yet, lets ask the Saudi that paid for Obama's education at Harvard.

"Saudi Prince Paid for Obama's Harvard Law Education"
"Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia is one of the largest foreign investors in the United States. Prince Alwaleed's nickname is "The Warren Buffett of the Gulf" and he is one of the world's richest people."
www.goldinvestmentstocks.com

"Sen. Obama has refused to instruct Harvard Law School to release any information about his time there as a student, or about his student loans."
newsmax.com

Oh my, what a tangled web.

I'm sure Glenn Beck will give us the patriotic viewpoint of the new stockholder in Fox. We all know he is so courageous and bold and doesn't dance to anyone's tune. I'm sure Hannity will stand up and be counted too.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2010-02-22 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Danni, do you know the foreign ownership breakdown of America's Top 500 corporations?

Do you know the total Saudi position in those companies? What about Japanese, German, UAE, British or French positions in each of those companies?

Do you even know how to find out?

Of course not! And, you don't even care.

Why? Because you are a sheep, driven by the headline of today and driven by the call of your shepherd.

Bleet, Danni, bleet! Bleet with all the other silly twits who only want to eat grass, and not caring whose field you are eating.

Do the Saudis have legitimate birth certificates?

He has been a shareholder for many years = old news.

Well,,, as long as the U.S. continues to use the Saudis as a filling station for war machinery it behooves them to own America's loudest trumpet for war.

They are building hospitals, universities and infrastructure with the proceeds of war...

Meanwhile shrinking righty tighty wannabe middle class capitalist in the US squabble over how such expenditures feed the entitlement mindset of the lefties.,, because such things must come from taxes When in fact... the US industrial machine is not creating enough product to finance this.

Long story short...fuck you Vernon... now go whine about your grandchildren's future you have pissed away.


I'm sure Glenn Beck will give us the patriotic viewpoint of the new stockholder in Fox. We all know he is so courageous and bold and doesn't dance to anyone's tune. I'm sure Hannity will stand up and be counted too.

#3 | Posted by danni

Now, you will realize just how dangerous it is.

those guys know a successful investment when they see one....doubt he's invested in CNBC...those arabs like to make money...

Bleet, Danni, bleet! Bleet with all the other silly twits who only want to eat grass, and not caring whose field you are eating.

#5 | Posted by vernon

LOL. This is why she calls us nuts!

I never thought of it, but if you go out educate yourself on how things work in the world, people liek Danni will call you a nut. A conspriacy nut? I was one of those. I just wanted to stay just ignorant and happy.

Danni, just because I know more than you about your messiah, doesn't make me a nut.

This is hilarious.... kinda like conservative fav the Wash Times being owned by The Already Arisen Messiah, Sun Myong Moon.

www.nypress.com

"because I know more than you about your messiah,"

this statement identifies Eddie as an asshole!

to many of us Jesus is the Messiah, you dipshit!

Long story short...fuck you Vernon... now go whine about your grandchildren's future you have pissed away.

because a Saudi Prince owns shares in Fox News?

In any case, you are the one who is whining along with Danni.

Should anyone be alarmed that Fox News is partially owned by a Saudi who paid suicide bombers just like Saddam Hussein did?? Should we be alarmed that the network who led the cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion was partially owned by a Saudi Prince who had his own reasons to want Hussein deposed??

The hypocrits making comments about my comments make me laugh, if this were an investor in MSNBC y'all would be wanting hearings in Congress, investigations, etc. What is hilarious is that like the emperor with no clothes y'all think no one sees through your partisan hypocrisy.

I love it when liberals show their ignorance at a free market.

Imagine that, someone would want to invest in the most watched cable news network?

I throw up in my mouth when I watch MSNBC, but you're damn right I'd buy stock with them if it was worth a goddamn thing or had a chance of improving.

He's owned it for years, Danni. YEARS! This is old news. 2005 Frontpage Magazine Old!

The hypocrits making comments about my comments make me laugh, if this were an investor in MSNBC y'all would be wanting hearings in Congress, investigations, etc.

bullshit. we would just be laughing at your covenient silence.

Should we be alarmed that the network who led the cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion was partially owned by a Saudi Prince who had his own reasons to want Hussein deposed??

I can't open the link but how how many shares does he own? How much voting power does he have?

"He's owned it for years, Danni. YEARS! This is old news. 2005 Frontpage Magazine Old!"

In case you haven't noticed Fox News has been in favor of our invasion of Iraq (and would love to cheer on a war with Iran now) for years. You only underscore my point NANC, thanks.

"we would just be laughing at your covenient silence."

Find me a 25% share holder of MSNBC who is a Saudi Prince and notice my silence??? Riiiiight.
Now NANC keeps posting that this is old news, it isn't to me, but the silence from people like her who claim they knew all along is pretty telling.

Danni-

You won't find a holder like that. People don't invest in shitty stocks.

Find me a 25% share holder of MSNBC who is a Saudi Prince and notice my silence???

again, I couldn't open the article. How much does he own?

#19 - Danni, it was five or six years ago when I found out and five years ago when Horowitz broke it - millions of people know about it. This is what you get when you bury yourself neckdeep in leftist-only sites - you get only what they want you to know. Spread your wings - I know you're able...

www.forbes.com

okay found it myself. The guy owns 5.5%.

nothing to scoff at. But it doesn't appear that he drives the news agenda does it? More like he owns it because it slants the way he wants it.

But I will admit, this is noteworthy and nothing to be ignored.

#21 - SEVEN percent, Eberly. SEVEN! BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

#23 - It hasn't been ignored in the real world!

This just in, I own stock in Google. Surly I must be part of a conspiracy to spread Google across the world and dominate the news cycle through forcing my views on the board about what should be displayed on news.google.com

Oh the humanity.

...Not really Danni, I just like their innovation and feel like they can make me some money. That's why people buy stocks. You fucking moron.

"I love it when liberals show their ignorance at a free market.

Imagine that, someone would want to invest in the most watched cable news network?

I throw up in my mouth when I watch MSNBC, but you're damn right I'd buy stock with them if it was worth a goddamn thing or had a chance of improving.

#16 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2010-02-22 10:58 AM | Reply | Flag: "

I just threw up in my mouth when I read this post. At what point does that line of reasoning stop? By this statement, who gives a shit what said company is doing, as long as you're making money?

Are you religious? This is why liberals don't want unregulated markets you POS!

Hey Qual70, are you condemning MSNBC? That's how this post comes across.

I'm glad I'm not as extreme as you. I disagree with the politics of MSNBC, but I certainly don't find them culturally destructive. To say that I would invest in them if I thought they could make some money for me also does not point to the conclusion you have reached.

Your ignorance in debate is almost as embarrassing as your implied assumptions.

To say that liberals don't want unregulated markets implies that somehow independent's do what unregulated markets? You fucking idiot. You two party sheeple are THE reason we are where we are.

"By this statement, who gives a shit what said company is doing, as long as you're making money?"

Its the American way.

At what point does that line of reasoning stop? By this statement, who gives a shit what said company is doing, as long as you're making money?

it might stop when we learn a Saudi Prince owns enough interest to set foot in the newsroom and tell Sean Hannity what to say. (like he needs to convice him to slant more to the right) or even, say...Shepard Smith.

I don't give a shit whether or not it is right or left.....I don't like that at all.

There are some righties here who are against paying Saudis huge $$$ for oil just so they can pay terrorists to target us.

It's insane.

This from the left who applaud people like Chavez, Che, Mao and Castro!

This saudi prince has no say so in what news is or is not reported.

The saudis have been buying favor in all our major universities for over twenty years - where's the outrage there?

The U.S. is for sale to the highest bidder. Get used to it.

The Prince's holding company. Kingdom Holding has many investments worldwide, including Citigroup. MAYBE the real story here is that the Prince influenced the Obama Administration into bailing out Citigroup. Obama did bow mighty deep to the Saudi King!!!

Another Kingdom Holding investment is in Time Warner. Maybe the Prince is wielding his shareholder influence over HBO, Time and CNN? Maybe Joe Trento, the author of this non-story, should have a conversation with Anderson Cooper.

How do you like them apples Danni?

The guy owns 5.5%.

Big deal. TOP INSTITUTIONAL HOLDERS

FRANKLIN RESOURCES, INC 7.17%
Capital Research Global Investors 6.41%
AXA 6.38%
Barclays Global Investors UK Holdings Ltd 5.08%
Capital World Investors 4.77%
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) 4.12%
STATE STREET CORPORATION 3.80%
DAVIS SELECTED ADVISERS, LP 3.70%
DODGE & COX INC 11.15%

Beachbuzz...typical NEOCON racist hick you are, trying to bring facts into a debate.

Shameful, ain't it?!?

OH, THE OUTRAGE!

Just the facts mam!

It sure got quiet in here...

God I love saying shit that makes the GOPiggies squeal.. they are such crybabies...

So, just like they loved Bandar Bush the same folks here are happy to stay glued to a network partially owned by a Saudi Prince who pays Palestinian suicide bombers. Fine with me, it's not exactly surprising. If that network announced Satan was a stockholder the same sheep would be saying what a great guy Satan is.

Trite - Danni is far from being a GOPiggy! She's just ill informed, like most in her corner.

Danni, like I said....

This is hilarious.... kinda like conservative fav the Wash Times being owned by The Already Arisen Messiah, Sun Myong Moon.

www.nypress.com

#12 | Posted by Corky

Danni - he is MORE responsible for your chairman zero's education via Harvard...

Corky - Kind of like zero paling around with Bill Ayers?

P.S. The Watimes and Fox haven't been looking for bailouts now, have they?

Kind of like zero paling around with Bill Ayers?
#43 | Posted by nanc | Flag: Pounding Away On A Dead Horse

It's all good and dirty business - incestuous in fact:

"1987 Bill Ayers solicited Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour (a.k.a. Donald Warden) to raise money for Obama's Harvard Law School education. al-Mansour is an orthodox Muslim, a black nationalist, an outspoken enemy of Israel, and mentor to Black Panther Party founder Huey Newton and his cohort, Bobby Seale. At the time al-Mansour associate Percy Sutton was raising money for Obama's education, al-Mansour was the top financial advisor to mega-billionaire Prince Alwaleed (Alwalid) bin Talal of the Saudi royal family."

#45 - No, just driving a point home for the thick-skulled!

If rightwingers could spell "paranoia", they'd be scared silly.

well, Galactus holds the other 3/4 shares, and that's way more telling than Alwaleed....

#48 - apparently, you didn't catch a gander at WHO posted this article?

209.157.64.200

They're all in bed together. There is no left, no right - no conservative, no liberal - no republican, no democrat. We react the way the powers that be manufacture how we react - they play on both. Unfortunately, we're not all disgusted by the same behaviors because of the (d) or (r) after a name. As it is intended. The machine against U.S.

This is great, any time a lib is challenged they think you're a GOP'er. Said it before and say it again, you two party fucks owe the rest of us big for what you have done.

the same folks here are happy to stay glued to a network partially owned by a Saudi Prince who pays Palestinian suicide bombers.

Hey douche bag - the Prince owns a piece of CNN and HBO or didn't you read the FACTS in my #32?

Facts to liberals has the same effect as daylight to vampires.

MAYBE the real story here is that the Prince influenced the Obama Administration into bailing out Citigroup.

Actually it was saudi's favorite bitch Bushboy that passed the Bill. You know, the guy who made sure the saudi al queda agents got chartered flights home before the FBI could interview them after 9-11?

Reality and the right.....

Do you know the total Saudi position in those companies? What about Japanese, German, UAE, British or French positions in each of those companies?
Do you even know how to find out?
Of course not! And, you don't even care.
Why? Because you are a sheep, driven by the headline of today and driven by the call of your shepherd.
Bleet, Danni, bleet! Bleet with all the other silly twits who only want to eat grass, and not caring whose field you are eating.

#5 | POSTED BY VERNON AT 2010-02-22 09:18 AM |

I'm sure you do, ladyboy troller.

Oh and how does the dr left feel about Saudi Arabia being Jimmy Carter's largest donor to his charity? 600 million was a lot of money in 1983.

WHAT NO COMMENT????? how surprising, you all only care about your paranoid interests right?

IT WAS HUSH MONEY FOR BCCI.

And as for danni's comments on ownership interests? WHO CARES.

Danni I CHALLENGE YOU YET AGAIN TO TELL US WHAT FOR PROFIT COMPANIES YOU RESPECT!!!!!!

answer...NONE!

maybe the prince saw Fox's and the WSJ's ratings, and wanted in on the action. Or perhaps danni, he saw the MSNBC ratings and decided he did not want to touch them with 10 foot pole! After all GE is trying to unload NBC at almost any cost, which is why they tried to sell it all to comcast.

FRANKLIN RESOURCES, INC 7.17%
Capital Research Global Investors 6.41%
AXA 6.38%
Barclays Global Investors UK Holdings Ltd 5.08%
Capital World Investors 4.77%
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) 4.12%
STATE STREET CORPORATION 3.80%
DAVIS SELECTED ADVISERS, LP 3.70%
DODGE & COX INC 11.15%

#33 | Posted by Beachbuzz

Sorry to burst your bubble BB, my screens show the largest shareholders.....

Murdoch 39.6%
Prince 17.6%
Alliance 3.3%

Wonder why he didn't load up on Air America???????????

Danni I am waiting, DARE YOU

THe beauty of public traded companies is that you too can buy into a piece if the action.

As usual danni refuses to answer, how lame

In other news... The latest Saudi Gallop Poll has determined that Saudi Princes are Republicans too...

When probed by our crack reporter at a recent Billionaire Bash In Hollywood California about the purchases of large blocks of Fox Company Stock the Prince had this to say...I Own That??? Cool.... He then exhaled a large puff smoke that smelled like Hashish in our reporters face.

Fox beholden to the Saudis; definitely old news.

This saudi prince has no say so in what news is or is not reported.

~Nanc.

Cos by being only the 4th biggest voting shareholder he has no input into the decision making process wotsoever?

Wot is it with the right's love affair with the Saudis?

Uncle Bandar learning stuff before American allies learned it.

Dumbya kissing Saudi Royals and holding hands with them.

Letting the Bin Laden clan hightail it out of town.

Trying to sell controlling interest in national ports to them etc.

And now dismissing or discounting this latest revelation that one of FOX's biggest owners is also a supporter of suicide bombers.

If you ask them about all this they'll just say...

But, but, but Obama BOWED!!!

Silly peoples.

Be Well.

"Should we be alarmed that the network who led the cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion was partially owned by a Saudi Prince who had his own reasons to want Hussein deposed??"

Apparently Danni believes that one little cable channel is the sum total of News Corp. What a dweeb. It's the only thing she cars about, so the annoying harpie can only rant about that.

News Corp. owns dozens of newspapers around the world, TV stations and programming.

Oh ...

Hey ....

I just remembered! The Simpsons advocated the invasion of Iraq!

OMG! Danni is right!

God I love saying shit that makes the GOPiggies squeal.. they are such crybabies...

#38 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2010-02-22 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Up until this point the only thing you've posted is #8 -- in which you gleefully admit your complete ignorance about how the functioning of global investments.

Yeah, boy, that sure made me squeal!

#55 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2010-02-22 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why, yes, I do. And it's why I'm wealthy and respected. And why you ride the bus to work

News Corp. owns dozens of newspapers around the world, TV stations and programming.

And this does what to the argument that FOX's 4th largest shareholder being a supporter of terrorism is a potentially bad and embarrassing thing?

To the argument that one of the reasons FOX sold the Iraq war with such fervor as because of this Saudi Prince and his agenda?

Nothing at all?

Carry on.

You always do.

Be Well.

#68 | Posted by vernon

#70 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2010-02-23 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

Even Drunk_Dwarf wakes up from last night's bender, peeling his snot and vomit away from the shag rug in his mother's basement .... to post a link to who knows what?

Who the fuck cares?

It's easy to come up with stupid, bullshit links ... DD knows all about stupid and bullshit

en.wikipedia.org

I suppose in the feeble, alcohol-rotten mind of Drunk_Dwarf, I'm supposed to click his silly link, become infuriated, and then either post another link, or just cry and be sad.

What a retard.

DD, take a clue, nobody clicks your links, any more than if you were Hans or some other pointless loser.

Want proof? Go back and see how many people actually respond to your posts PERSONALLY. Not those who play on your threads, but those who really care about you.

With DR as your primary point of human contact (beyond the liquor store clerks) ... well, you know the rest

you have my pity

en.wikipedia.org
#71 | Posted by vernon

Thanks for the link, Vermin. It's not something I'm actually into, but your obsession with zoophilia is of a piece with you getting off on the story of Lot and his daughters. Praise Jeebus!

nobody clicks your links
#72 | Posted by vernon

But they sure do set you to oinking, Piglet.

LOL!

Yeah, boy, that sure made me squeal!
#67 | Posted by vernon

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