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Sunday, February 21, 2010

There are a lot of Navy people on DR... I would love to know what they think.

To me it doesn't look like much. Quite shoddy, in fact. And extra-heavy.

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By "extra-heavy" I meant top heavy....

It doesn't look right.... or does it?

The vessel has a displacement of around 14,000 tons

Pakistan's newest guide-missile frigate is around 3000 tons. This one here: upload.wikimedia.org

And we are not calling our ship a "destroyer". LOL

How come Iran is calling this little pipsqueak a "destroyer"?

Looks like somebody's home project....

Is that a clothes-line??? Are they drying their washings on the deck?

This reminds me of the joke....

"why are camels called the ships of the desert?"

Because they are full of Iranian semen.

As for the photo's of the ship... it didn't look like the panels were watertight. Wonder how much water it would take on in a good storm?

The vessel has a displacement of around 14,000 tons

Oh, my mistake... it sez 14,000... not 1400!

Seems pretty small and lightly armed for "14,000" tons displacement.

There is some bullshit in there....

This little shit can't be 14,000 tons... some mistake or lie....

Ha! Gotcha, Iranian liars!

This "destroyer" is based on a British design, the Alvand class frigate.

It's weight should be around 1,500 tons.... not "14,000"! LOL

en.wikipedia.org

Tosser exposes bullshit once again!

"it didn't look like the panels were watertight.

I thought the same thing. But then, who would build a ship that wasn't watertight?

(Nevermind)

"There is some bullshit in there....

For photo-op only ?????

The Alvand class (also called the Saam class frigate or the 'Vosper Mk 5 type) comprise four Iranian light patrol frigates. Only three are currently in service.

The United Kingdom built all four ships which were originally armed with nine Sea Cat anti-air missiles and five Sea Killer anti-ship missiles. Iranian Navy has replaced the missiles with Chinese equivalents.

One Alvand-class frigate, the Sahand, was sunk by U.S. forces during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988 after unsuccessfully firing upon an A-6 Intruder flying from the USS Enterprise. It was then struck by Harpoon missiles from this aircraft, and then a coordinated Harpoon attack from its wingman and a nearby surface ship.

So they are replicating a boat (no way a "destroyer") that the Americans have sunk before? LOL

Just calling it 14,000 tons and "best destroyer in the world" will not work fellas!

These boats are better suited to coast-guards duties than going against real navy ships.

TOSSER

Is that a clothes-line???

Nah . . . that's barbed wire so the crew doesn't fall overboard playing vollyball.

en.wikipedia.org

Good eye, TOSSER

Now for the next question . . . Is Israel shaking in it's shoes yet? LOL

Good eye, TOSSER

Thanks.

The weapons Iran makes, are basically re-hashed versions of those they already had.

Their tank is a rehashed T-72.

Their choppers are rehashed Jet Rangers.

Their plane is an old F-5 with a repaint job and fake "made-in-Iran" sticker.

And now this "destroyer" is another BS from the same people who brought you the previous BS'es.

Is Israel shaking in it's shoes yet?

I don't think so. LOL

Oh BTW... that Rat they shot into orbit....

No news.

Which probably means Rat is toast.

Fuckers said they would get it back alive.

More bullshit. Sorry, rodent.

"it didn't look like the panels were watertight."

You would they would have learned something after putting screen windows in their home-built submarine

My heart bleeds for Rat....

Don't cry for me Argentina
For I never left you....

(yes I know this is not about Argentina... I am only trying to show respect for poor rat)

The hull plates certainly don't very thick. Not something I'd be making a big hype about.

Some day the Iranian people will get rid of those morons.

Some day the Iranian people will get rid of those morons.

Impossible.

I mean see first pic showing their chief mullah taking a tour?

He gets to see everything first. Always will.

Tosser just for fun and comparison

The first ever US destroyer 1902
www.navy.mil

Newest class of destroyer
www.navy.mil

The new one displaces 8500 tons the first one 492 tons.

If you want a 1500 ton ship today do something useful with it and get one of these www.rnryachts.com

They need some curtains and the colors are all wrong. Drab.

I would like to see some pictures of this ship moving at top speed.

Maybe their plan is to mass produce these things:

Build a cheap boat, fill it up with "martyrs", cause a little trouble and then have Israel spend $50 million sinking it.

I would like to see some pictures of this ship moving at top speed.

If they've managed to clone an Alvand class frigate, it's top speed should be less than 20-knots, since I doubt if Iranian navy can use gas turbine engines.

That means everything out there can run rings around it.

The missiles they have on-board are very deadly though.

One of those holed an Israeli ship which was supposed to be able to intercept such attacks.

NATO name for this missile is the "Saccade". We use this too on our missile boats.

Due to the Yingji-82 missile's small radar reflectivity, low attack flight path (only five to seven meters above the sea surface) and strong anti-jamming capability of its guidance equipment, target ships have a very small chance of intercepting the missile. The single shot hit probability of the Yingji-82 is estimated to be as high as 98%.

It gets it's target 98% of the time.

So if you are stupid enough to let this tug-boat get within range of firing it's missiles, there will be plenty of trouble.

"The missiles they have on-board are very deadly though."

Seems like a good target to try out Israels new drones.

Seems like a good target to try out Israels new drones.

LOL... drones can't do anti-ship missiles.

Too heavy.

Besides, like I said, this missile holed an Israeli ship that had defenses on-board just for this sort of missile.

It still went through.

Ah but they only have one of these ships.

That tub looks pre-WWII.

A large target for one cruise missile a 1,000 miles away. And yes it looks very top heavy

It's a stretch to call this thing a destroyer too.

Makes you wonder what their planes look like.

Time to start checking for the photoshopping ....

TEL NOF AIR FORCE BASE, Israel (AP) - Israel's air force on Sunday introduced a fleet of huge pilotless planes that can remain in the air for a full day and could fly as far as the Persian Gulf, putting rival Iran within its range.

The Russian Deputy Foreign Minister says his country has every intention of delivering the advanced S-300 air defense missile systems to the Islamic Republic.

Israeli daily Haaretz reported on Tuesday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who visited Russia on Tuesday, has been assured that the sale of the S-300 anti-aircraft system to Iran "will be held off" by the Kremlin.

However, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov commented on the report, saying that the deal is still in motion

"There is a contract to supply these systems to Iran, and we will fulfill it Delays (with deliveries) are linked to technical problems with adjusting these systems," Ryabkov said on Friday.

The Russian official warned against attempts in Israel and the US to politicize and, to some extent, demonize the nature of Russia's arms export to Iran.


www.presstv.ir

Shouldn't be to hard for a missle with a coat hanger for a guidance system to find it.

rwd

BFD

This is a photo of the Global Hawk UAV that returned from the war zone recently under its own power. (Iraq to Edwards AFB in CA) - Not transported via C5 or C17.....

Notice the mission paintings on the fuselage..

It's actually over 250 missions....

(And I would suppose 25 air medals).

That's a long way for a remotely-piloted aircraft.
Think of the technology (and the required quality of the data link to fly it remotely). Not only that but the pilot controlled it from a nice warm control panel at Edwards AFB.

Really long legs -- can stay up for almost 2 days at
altitudes above 60k. The Global Hawk was controlled via satellite; it flew missions during OT&E that went from Edwards AFB to upper Alaska and back non-stop.

Basically, they come into the fight at a high mach # in mil thrust, fire their AMRAAMS, and no one ever sees them or paints with radar. There is practically no radio chatter because all the guys in the flight are tied together electronically, and can see who is targeting whom, and they have AWACS direct input and 360 situational awareness from that and other sensors.

The aggressors had a morale problem before it was
all over.. It is to air superiority what the jet engine was to aviation.

It can taxi, take off, fly a mission, return, land and taxi on its own. No blackouts, no fatigue, no relief tubes, no ejection seats, and best of all, no dead pilots and no POWs.

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I like it.

As for boats: www.ussnewyork.com

One last thought:

Boomers ---
You just never know where one is sitting;
Quietly on the bottom.

www-rohan.sdsu.edu

Ah but they only have one of these ships.

They have 4.

I am saying that because this is a rehashed Alvand light-frigate.

They had 4 of those and one was sunk by American navy because it fired on an American aircraft.

So they made this one and now are back to having 4 of them.

The boat is nothing.

It's the missiles that are something.

News report on this "destroyer".

www.youtube.com

Boomers ---
You just never know where one is sitting;
Quietly on the bottom.

Iran makes it's own midget submarine (like North Korea).

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

Iranian fighter plane.

www.youtube.com

Looks like the most it can do is fire Vietnam-era rockets. LOL

I think this is an American F-5 (which Iran has) with it's tail chopped off and twin tail stuck on with "made-in-Iran" paint job.

We all know that the Pakistan navy and air force is the envy of ....um, Sudan?

Iran is turning into a real super power.

We all know that the Pakistan navy and air force

It's something that India keeps complaining about, so it must be good enough, no? LOL

Say the word and I'll show you how stupid you are, Boyd.

Say when....

I like their Jingle Trucks.

Tosser-
A picture is worth a thousand words, it is said, tosser.

It should be easy to get the Pakistan navy into one frame, so post away.

A picture is worth a thousand words, it is said, tosser.

Oh goody...

Go find all the pics you like on Pakistan Defense Forum. LOL

I have posted the link to it before.

Chop Chop.

Embarrassed to even try, I see.

You'll never get Ahmadinejad on a sub. He smells too much.

Embarrassed to even try, I see.

No.. you're just being a lazy bastard.

Do go to where I told you to go.

forum.pakistanidefence.com

You want to see pics, Boyd?

Try here too. LOL

www.defence.pk

There are so many pics, I'll have to do a different thread on Pakistan's weapons and it'll be huge headache for me.

Far better for anyone interested to go see for themselves.

Boyd and his brains.... LOL

This thread is about Iran's weapons, which I am really curious about. So lets stay on topic.

I would also appreciate posts from people who know what they're talking about.

I would've loved to get Goatman's input (ex-Navy), but I think he has gone on his break.

"He smells too much."

Smells too much what?

Here is one for the road, Boyd. LOL

www.defence.pk

All the pics about Pak you ever wanted and more.

Smells too much what?

He didn't have anything smart to say but he made a post anyway.

I would request you folks to open your mouth only when you've got something to contribute about Iran's military. Thanks.

Btw, this is the missile the Iranians are using.

img203.imageshack.us

(we use the same on some of our ships)

Iranian attack chopper.

www.youtube.com

Looks like a modified Jet Ranger... or no?

Hell, if AirWolf could do it, why can't they? LOL

Smells too much what?

#58 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

BO. He doesn't use deoderant and rarely bathes.

Here's a link to a story about his body odor.


Ahmadinejad's body odour plays into West's hands

BO. He doesn't use deoderant and rarely bathes.

BO? Barak Obama? Him dirty fella?

BO is body odor. Ahmadinejad's fould body odor is by far Iran's most lethal weapon.

President Ahmadinejad's poor personal hygiene offends China and will keep Iran isolated on the world stage.

It has been claimed that Ahmadinejad suffers from bad body odour and this so offends the Chinese that they are unlikely to ever throw their political support behind him.

The reports surfaced on gossip website Popbitch, which says that Ahmadinejad smells "like a billy-goat".

Ahmadinejad's fould body odor is by far Iran's most lethal weapon.

Could you find me a more credible source for that news?

Don't they have soap in Iran?

Try google. This isn't a military secret.

gossip website

Yeah... "gossip" website.... that too with a name like "popbitch".

You can't tell if this is for real or not.

Maybe it's not BO? Maybe he uses the wrong hair-product?

I'm surprised you aren't aware of this problem with Mr. Stinky.

www.thefirstpost.co.uk

Try google. This isn't a military secret.

I did. It's all been spread from a single source.

The new stench created by the mix of body odor, feet, and the excretion of pressed flowers is one for the ages; unmistakably Islamic Republic.

I'm surprised you aren't aware of this problem with Mr. Stinky.

I'm not aware of it, probably because it's not true. LOL

I don't believe everything some gossip reporter sez.

excretion of pressed flowers

And what is THAT supposed to mean???

Ahmadinejad hasn't changed his socks in a week

Tehran, 14 April (AKI) Iran's hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has apparently been incensed by an anonymous text message suggesting he does not wash enough. Ahmadinejad has taken legal action over the offending text, has fired the president of a phone company and has had four people arrested and accused of colluding with the Israeli foreign intelligence service, Mossad, the anti-government website Rooz Online reports.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has apparently been incensed by an anonymous text message suggesting he does not wash enough.

Nobody claimed he had a sense of humor.

the anti-government website Rooz Online reports.

They are playing mind-games with a hot-head.

Not good.

Iran produces some excellent stuff.

Three things of theirs are best in the world.

1. Carpets

2. Pistachio

3. Caviar

They do have a taste for fine detail... such a people will graduate to make formidable weapons... someday.

But today... no.

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