Exhibit control.
Don't have sex for the rest of your life.
After all, according to you gay people can just decide to not have sex with same-sex partners at any point in time.
Show us control.
#212 | Posted by ness_gadol at 2010-02-19 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:
Difficulty is no excuse
I hope you realize that the more you post, the more credibility you lose.
If you didn't realize that, consider this a "heads-up."
#213 | Posted by ness_gadol at 2010-02-19 10:23 AM | Reply | Flag:
What you fail to realize is that some individuals can separate the emotional from the rational when discussing something. I am not putting in any of my personal beliefs, personal approaches, or personal feeling.
I am discussing it from a different point of view in order to understand the implications.
It seems to me that you are the one that does not understand that this is a discussion, This is what takes place on this board. People talk about things, hopefully from different viewpoints than they hold in order to better understand all facets of the discussion so as to come to a more informed idea wherever they may land.
If you are not open to ideas changing, don't discuss, if you are not open to finding something you believed your whole life to be wrong, don't discuss.
It is pretty simply. Nothing I am saying is stand alone or complete. I am speaking objectively in terms of the control thing. I sympathize with people and I understand that everyone undergoes similar struggles, however objectively it comes down to the fact that difficulty is no excuse and we need to make sure we do as much as possible to exhibit control when it comes to our own personal responsibility.
There is a subjective position, however I am not arguing from that here today. I am offering up a different side.
I do not have to be emotionally tied to my arguments to. It takes away from understanding what others are saying.
You ask questions I answer them and all you say is "bullshit" because I didn't give you the answer that you wanted me to give you.
I can see homosexuality being a choice, I can also see it being something out of their control. I can also see everyone being born almost sexually nuetra with the faculties to be either or. No problem there.
I am willing to take either side at any time. However here since everyone is emotionally approaching the argument from the "homosexuals are born that way and it is inequality taking place" side, I took the opposite.
If it is a choice, what happens? Can it be inequality when the system was set up the way it was, not out of disdain for the homosexual group, but simply for the purpose of helping families with children.
Ultimately alcoholics choose to take a drink. They pick it up, they pour it down, they control whether they get drunk due to the volume of alcohol they consume. This is a fact.
If you know you are doing something that is in your physical control, you can stop it. It may be difficult, but that does not excuse you from it.
Nass, I have exhibited control in not having sex until I was married. There were plenty of opportunities with my future spouse, plenty of times we wanted to (because that is how our genetics commanded in some peoples minds) however, we chose not to, knowing the consequences of those actions.
I don't see what your point in 212 is. Even if I said I was going to do that, you would say "bullshit" and even if I did do that, and tried to prove it you would say "bullshit."
I sympathize with people in difficult situations, and difficult lives, however it is not an excuse for bad negative behavior if negative behavior is undertaken.
