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Saturday, February 13, 2010

A group of Muslim religious scholars has issued a religious document saying that airport body scanners violate Islamic law. The Fiqh Council of North America issued a Fatwa telling Muslims to avoid the scanners because of Islamic teachings regarding nudity.

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Cool.

The Fiqh Council of North America issued a Fatwa telling Muslims to avoid the scanners because of Islamic teachings regarding nudity.

The only way you can "avoid" these scanners is not to fly at all.

Jerks must have small ding-dongs and are embarrassed. LOL

I got nothing to hide!

Though, yes, technically, they are open to abuse with print-outs of nekkid-scans of Sharukh Khan being passed around at London airport.... but strict procedures should be able to take care of that (I know it doesn't work that way, but I'm just saying).

The Fiqh Council of North America

BTW, who are these guys?

A "fatwa" has no validity in any version of Islamic law (except Shia, maybe) and is only an opinion of somebody with a big mouth.

And when it comes to opinion, all you got to fall back on are your creds.

What creds do these people have? What makes their opinion better than my opinion?

At Karachi airport, many many years ago, we used to shove Nigerians (all Nigerians, guilty or innocent) through the baggage X-ray machine.

People used to see black people coming out of baggage conveyor-belt all the time.

They got extra radiation because of that, but hell who cares?

When Obama came here in the 80s I bet he went through baggage X-ray too.... we checked all black dudes that way to see if they had heroin shoved up their ass.

Of course, he will pretend it never happened.

It did. We did it to everyone.

Only after our "abuse" did Nigerians start "Nigerian email scam".

Probably trying to get back at the world for all those extra X-rays we gave them.

Cadenbourne.... LOL... Rex, I know it's you again.

Give it up dude. You can't hide! hahahahahahahahaha

What's up with you anyway?

A fatwa against body scanners?

So Islamic extremists are now no longer allowed to get on board airplanes in order to hijack them?

Sweet.

Be Well.

I think this "Fiqh American Council" is a CIA front and they are going to issue "fatwas" right left and center to confuse the hell out of terrier types.

One of the less dumb plans, if indeed it is them.

GOOD!!! No more plane Hi-jackings:^)

The next Fatwa issued should be telling Muslims to avoid Non-Muslim countries. Then we will be set

toss... i've never heard of these guys.

they mean nothing
and have zero influence.

"The next Fatwa issued should be telling Muslims to avoid Non-Muslim countries. Then we will be set"

my fatwah is that no matter where you live...muslims should move near you and breed like no tomorrow.

especially with all the local folk.

we muslims are exceptional at breeding with locals.

yer great grand kids are next.

I want a fatwa against the Dallas Cowboys.

God I hate Muslims... Its a shame they contribute soooooo much to science and medicine and culture and society and politics and human rights, if they didn't I wouldn't feel guilty about my hatred... oh wait...

Its Easy! If Muslims won't submit to the same scrutiny the Rest of US have to endure BECAUSE OF THEM!, then they just can't get on an airplane.

They have no right to fly on an airplane. Too Bad A-Holes! Drive yourselves across country and leave us the hell alone.

Until the Muslim community cooperates with us in this War on THEIR Murdering Terrorists, actively condemns and goes to the streets against their so-called extremists who rub elbows with them in their community, turns in their fellow travelers, they are complicit in any deaths that result from Muslim activities.

so now that muslims won't fly they can take the body scanners away, right? right?

he-he, not a chance-- the muslims are the american government's best friend. while attention is being diverted to them, the government slowly takes more control of YOU.

its already worked for Rob_the_a_hole-- he's been reamed with a cattle prod so many times in his sleep by his beloved govt operatives, he thinks that itchy feeling way up inside his rectum is due to islamic extremism!!! lol!

Nerffucker, the whole reason the government has expanded its reach is because of the actions of Muslims. Yes, they're over exaggerating the threat they pose, but the only reason they're able to do so is because of the things Muslims have done in the past.

Quick name for me that last major medical advancement to come out of a predominately Muslim country.

I don't hate them for just the terrorism, I hate because they literally contribute nothing to the rest of the world.

"I hate because they literally contribute nothing to the rest of the world."

Well, not much lately, but they did save science from the dark ages. After all, algebra is an Arabic word.

Great, 1000 years ago they gave us basic math. Plus 1 for them. Anyone got a contribution in recent history?

A major invention... something we all use everyday? A medical procedure? Maybe a computer program to make our lives better?

Anything except a new way to hide a bomb, or an improved technique for stoning a woman to death for getting raped?

Greetings Infidels!

First--Rob--muslim countries have not contributed anything except oil.

Second--this could be a good thing--issuing a fatwa against body scanners.

Don't ride the plane--go walk, drive, sail--whatever.

Body scanners are the latest attempt to control our lives and our rights.

They would do better with heat scanners without all the privacy concerns attached.

The AQ's of the world will still find another way to get on a plane with a bomb.

But with Holder and Obama in charge they will get a lawyer and all intelligence will be lost.

I'm just wishing the U.S. had the balls the U.K. is displaying on this issue.

In the U.S., you can opt for a pat-down based on religious objections, which suits these people to a "T".

In the U.K., you go through the body scanner, or you're fucking-A not getting on the plane. Period.

As it should be.

P.S.: Regarding the fatwa: How conveeeeeeeninent!

I know let's let all those who don't want to be screened to fly Bombs Away Airlines. Think it would be crowded. Fuck off with PC America. Tell hem tough, refuse and be subject to backup hands on screening.

Wonder why if there are any fatwas against suicide killers. Tosser? A little help with this please....

F---Fanatic

A---?

T---To

W---Whack

A---Americans

What have you contributed rob the delusional?

Nothing.

Muslims Do work for companies and research firms as much as the rest.

Some Muslims actually own those companies too and run some research firms.

Maybe you're too much up you're own ass to figure them in your equation.

"Nerffucker, the whole reason the government has expanded its reach is because of the actions of Muslims"

LOL!!! FF!! A Hole, you MUST be someone's gimp!!

The excessive exclamation points really drove your point home. Well that and the caps lock. Were you celisary in another life?

What have you contributed rob the delusional?
Nothing.
Muslims Do work for companies and research firms as much as the rest.
Some Muslims actually own those companies too and run some research firms.
Maybe you're too much up you're own ass to figure them in your equation.

#26 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

Kliffy, when was the last time a Muslim nation was at the forefront of some innovative technology? When was the last time we heard something along the lines of, "Yemen's space program is really advanced?" How about, "thank God for the vaccinations developed in Syria or the pandemic would have killed billions."

If you want to individualize it, then sure I'll bet there are scientist Muslims and Doctor Muslims, but take the Muslim world as a whole, and what do we have? Honestly, what are they contributing?

I'll wait.

How about a car? How about a car made in a Muslim country? That's an easy thing... any country can make one. So what do we got in the automotive department?

London, England (CNN) -- Think of the origins of that staple of modern life, the cup of coffee, and Italy often springs to mind.

But in fact, Yemen is where the ubiquitous brew has its true origins.

Along with the first university, and even the toothbrush, it is among surprising Muslim inventions that have shaped the world we live in today.

The origins of these fundamental ideas and objects -- the basis of everything from the bicycle to musical scales -- are the focus of "1001 Inventions," a book celebrating "the forgotten" history of 1,000 years of Muslim heritage.

"There's a hole in our knowledge, we leap frog from the Renaissance to the Greeks," professor Salim al-Hassani, Chairman of the Foundation for Science, Technology and Civilisation, and editor of the book told CNN.

"1001 Inventions" is now an exhibition at London's Science Museum. Hassani hopes the exhibition will highlight the contributions of non-Western cultures -- like the Muslim empire that once covered Spain and Portugal, Southern Italy and stretched as far as parts of China -- to present day civilization.


Here Hassani shares his top 10 outstanding Muslim inventions:

1. Surgery

Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawi published a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years. Among his many inventions, Zahrawi discovered the use of dissolving cat gut to stitch wounds -- beforehand a second surgery had to be performed to remove sutures. He also reportedly performed the first caesarean operation and created the first pair of forceps.

2. Coffee

Now the Western world's drink du jour, coffee was first brewed in Yemen around the 9th century. In its earliest days, coffee helped Sufis stay up during late nights of devotion. Later brought to Cairo by a group of students, the coffee buzz soon caught on around the empire. By the 13th century it reached Turkey, but not until the 16th century did the beans start boiling in Europe, brought to Italy by a Venetian trader.

3. Flying machine

"Abbas ibn Firnas was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly," said Hassani. In the 9th century he designed a winged apparatus, roughly resembling a bird costume. In his most famous trial near Cordoba in Spain, Firnas flew upward for a few moments, before falling to the ground and partially breaking his back. His designs would undoubtedly have been an inspiration for famed Italian artist and inventor Leonardo da Vinci's hundreds of years later, said Hassani.

4. University

In 859 a young princess named Fatima al-Firhi founded the first degree-granting university in Fez, Morocco. Her sister Miriam founded an adjacent mosque and together the complex became the al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University. Still operating almost 1,200 years later, Hassani says he hopes the center will remind people that learning is at the core of the Islamic tradition and that the story of the al-Firhi sisters will inspire young Muslim women around the world today.

5. Algebra

The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician's famous 9th century treatise "Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala" which translates roughly as "The Book of Reasoning and Balancing." Built on the roots of Greek and Hindu systems, the new algebraic order was a unifying system for rational numbers, irrational numbers and geometrical magnitudes. The same mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, was also the first to introduce the concept of raising a number to a power.

6. Optics

"Many of the most important advances in the study of optics come from the Muslim world," says Hassani. Around the year 1000 Ibn al-Haitham proved that humans see objects by light reflecting off of them and entering the eye, dismissing Euclid and Ptolemy's theories that light was emitted from the eye itself. This great Muslim physicist also discovered the camera obscura phenomenon, which explains how the eye sees images upright due to the connection between the optic nerve and the brain.

7. Music

Muslim musicians have had a profound impact on Europe, dating back to Charlemagne tried to compete with the music of Baghdad and Cordoba, according to Hassani. Among many instruments that arrived in Europe through the Middle East are the lute and the rahab, an ancestor of the violin. Modern musical scales are also said to derive from the Arabic alphabet.

8. Toothbrush

According to Hassani, the Prophet Mohammed popularized the use of the first toothbrush in around 600. Using a twig from the Meswak tree, he cleaned his teeth and freshened his breath. Substances similar to Meswak are used in modern toothpaste.

9. The crank

Many of the basics of modern automatics were first put to use in the Muslim world, including the revolutionary crank-connecting rod system. By converting rotary motion to linear motion, the crank enables the lifting of heavy objects with relative ease. This technology, discovered by Al-Jazari in the 12th century, exploded across the globe, leading to everything from the bicycle to the internal combustion engine.

10. Hospitals

"Hospitals as we know them today, with wards and teaching centers, come from 9th century Egypt," explained Hassani. The first such medical center was the Ahmad ibn Tulun Hospital, founded in 872 in Cairo. Tulun hospital provided free care for anyone who needed it -- a policy based on the Muslim tradition of caring for all who are sick. From Cairo, such hospitals spread around the Muslim world.

www.cnn.com

Yes, Jackass, as Zatoichi pointed out, there once was a time when Muslim nations provided quite a lot to this world.

But look at all your points. Are there any from the modern world? That's all I'm asking. What are Muslim countries doing today? How are they contributing to this world community we live in, today?

Apparently for the Muslim leaders body scanners are bad.... "We cant smuggle the bomb with the scanner!.... This is no good!",/i>

Well there Mullah... Seems Heroin dealing is good though...

Nothing but a bunch of Drug Addicted Opium Smoking pukes.... Notice how they ran from marjah Afghanistan.... Pussies!

The great Taliban is full of Chicken shit drug dealers.

Well I know UAE does a lot in the field of Architecture.

Well I know UAE does a lot in the field of Architecture.

#35 | POSTED BY JACKASS

There we go... that's something.

First monotheistic culture (one God)
First organized civilization
First written language
First libraries
First schools
First mathematics
First grain and seed storage
First cultivation of crops
First sailing vessels
First trade routes
First breeding of horses, which made their way to Europe and then America

-to name just a few more enduring contributions. Without which we'd still be hunting for wild berries and buffalo....on foot.

Since everyone has to go back hundreds or thousands of years to name Muslim contributions to the world, I'll take that as the answer I expected... they contribute nothing.

ROB

Without their contributions we'd still be living like Stone Agers.

We could save billions of dollars in equipment costs if we just made everyone eat a bacon cheeseburger before they were allowed to get on a plane.

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Nice list, but I think they did all of those things BEFORE they became Muslims.

Uh huh... and thousands of years ago they didn't let their dumb religion get in the way of improving the world. Now their religion is so oppressive to its people I'm saying they don't contribute a damn thing to modern society.

Healthcare, Technology, Science, Transportation etc, etc, etc... Where are Muslims today the pioneer in anything?

Would you have any problem answering this question if I were replacing Muslim, with American, Western European or Asian countries like China or Japan?

"Where are Muslims today the pioneer in anything?"

Invented VOIP.
alianamirza.files.wordpress.co
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Combined the electric and weak force.
nobelprize.org

" thousands of years ago they didn't let their dumb religion "

Islam isn't "thousands of years" old.

Are you trolling or are you really this stupid?

"First monotheistic culture (one God)
First organized civilization
First written language...bla bla bla

That's a lot of bullshit. The only thing monotheism contributes is holy wars, crusades, jihads, etc., against other monotheists. Monotheism is inherently intolerant and authoritarian.

Are you trolling or are you really this stupid?

#44 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

Sigh... people are pointing out things from thousands of years ago and attributing them to Muslims, I'm not going to argue they weren't technically Muslims, I'm just going with the examples given.

Unless you're saying the first organized civilization is less than one thousand years old?

And as to your examples Zat, are they the trend or the exception?

What predominately Muslim country do you think of when I say: Surgical advancements? How about: Next great sports car?

Muslim countries are being run by terrible oppressive leaders. What does that have to do with Muslims. They do well when the Muslims are in free societies. They need secular government and leave religion at home.

Rob let go of the emotion and come back to rational land.

Muslim countries are being run by terrible oppressive leaders. What does that have to do with Muslims.

LOL... So Muslims are being ruled by oppressive Muslims (both government and religious) and the question is "what does that have to do with Muslims?"

Gee I don't know.

What Muslim country comes to mind when I say: Space exploration

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The first organized civilizations were in Arabia. Sumerian is held to be the oldest written language. Sumaria, in what is now Palestine... Which hadn't seen Jews yet then ...

Monotheism is inherently intolerant and authoritarian.

And the priests of Egypt killed each other over their many gods until Amenhotep came along and declared there is one God.

What religions did with that is what they've all done with gods of any stripe since the dawn of history.

Rob the proud ignorant fool

Burj Khalifa

what a fool you are.

My God can kick your puny god's ass.

What. So all germans are at fault because they had a dictator named Hitler?

Please. The west placed almost every Muslim country's power in place. Minus Turkey.

"he-he, not a chance-- the muslims are the american government's best friend. while attention is being diverted to them, the government slowly takes more control of YOU."

What does the government do with the body scans that enables them to control us more?

Alot of people float around these conspiracy theories and if you ask them details, they call you naive. But in reality, their thinking is much like the underpants gnomes from South Park. The underpants gnomes plant for getting rich was:

1. Steal Underwear
2. ?
3. Profit

In this case the the conspiracy theory is:

1. Take naked x-rays of people
2. ?
3. Total Control!

The only control body scanners provide anyone is control over what can be brought on an airplane. That's it.

Rob let go of the emotion and come back to rational land.

#49 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

I'm not a big fan of Muslims at the moment. Pretty much every conflict we've been in for the past couple decades is because of them. And Middle Eastern nations contribute absolutely nothing to society.

Iran continues to press forward to get nukes, and all we ever hear is how if we do anything the youth of the country will rally around the government... well where is that youth to stop the current government?

Western nations have tried backing off of the ME, they've tried direct intervention in the way they are ruled. Each way ends up the same... extremists blowing shit up while the majority sit around and accept it.

I'm just sick of it. Imagine the world we would live in if Muslims in the Middle East would just knock it the fuck off and focus on things like science, technology, medicine, economics, etc.

God I hate Muslims... Its a shame they contribute soooooo much to science and medicine and culture and society and politics and human rights, if they didn't I wouldn't feel guilty about my hatred... oh wait...

#15 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

change2islam.blogspot.com

Right out of science fiction and into science labs, Dr. Ahmed Noor, director of the NASA-funded Center for Advanced Engineering Environments (CAEE) at Old Dominion University

Space? Muslims work at NASA you know.

What. So all germans are at fault because they had a dictator named Hitler?

Germany: Some of the best quality vehicles money can buy. Also, great beer...

They had a terrible leader 60 years ago, but have since rebuilt their country into a world leader, where they are making advancements that benefit all of the world, and they are a free and open society.

Space? Muslims work at NASA you know.
#59 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

Yes, I'm sure there are millions of muslims who are absolute geniuses.

Now, is there a NASA for the Middle East?

Right out of science fiction and into science labs, Dr. Ahmed Noor, director of the NASA-funded Center for Advanced Engineering Environments (CAEE) at Old Dominion University

#58 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

So he works with NASA and is in America?

Okay, put him in Saudi Arabia, is he still doing this work?

Pretty much every conflict we've been in for the past couple decades is because of them

en.wikipedia.org

hmmmm yemen, Afghan, Pakistan, Phillipines yes muslim

Georgia, Liberia, Haiti, not muslim

Space exploration couldn't exist without geometry, trigonometry, or astronomy - all three discovered and developed as sciences first in Arabia - at least 2000 years before the Greeks.

The Egyptians and Babylonians knew the Pythagorean Theorum before Pythagoras.

What's your point. Todays Muslim govts such. I agree. But Muslims as individuals are contributing as much as any other peoples.

Nice job moving the goal posts, Rob.

the point is that rob hates, he is a fool who groups and is incapable of differentiating between individuals and groups

What's your point. Todays Muslim govts such. I agree. But Muslims as individuals are contributing as much as any other peoples.

#65 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

I have to disagree with that considering the vast majority of Muslims live under the rule of other oppressive Muslims. The only time Muslims seem to contribute is when they are outside of Muslim countries.

Nice job moving the goal posts, Rob.

#66 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

Okay let's keep playing:

First Muslim nation that comes to mind: Advancements in biotechnology. Ready... set... go!

Nice job moving the goal posts, Rob.

#66 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

My point from the beginning about not liking Muslims has been that their countries do not contribute to modern society... unless of course you are considering the advancements we've made to our military by having to fight them year after year.

"Muslim nation"

Like I said, nice job.
You started with just Muslims.
Now put that goalpost back!

You started with just Muslims.
Now put that goalpost back!

#71 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

Let's keep playing...

First Muslim nation that comes to mind: Cancer research. GO!!!

Your disagreement is illogical.

Not sure if she's Muslim, I suspect she isn't really very religious.

"Dr. Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw (kannada :ಕಿರಣ್ ಮಜುಮ್ದರ್ ಷ ) (b. 23 March 1953 in Bangalore) is an Indian entrepreneur. She is the Chairman & Managing Director of Biocon Ltd. In 2004, she became India's richest woman."
en.wikipedia.org

Tosser probably has an opinion.

Your disagreement is illogical.

#73 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

First Muslim nation that comes to mind: Suicide vest construction.

ROB

Without their contributions we'd still be living like Stone Agers.

That is utter and complete Bullshit...

Anything of value that Arabs invented was destroyed in the fire of the Alexandria Library....

The Arabs didn't pass much information to the world in early history...

What was Newton reading the arab Text Books?....

How about every European Inventor in the middle ages?

This notion that the Arabs somehow saved the world or created our civilization is absurd!

They created they're civilization.....

They were so fucked up that Alexander the Great conquered them in five minutes.

He rode into Babylon on his first attempt...

Crushed them with an army 1/4 of the size of the Arab forces.

What about the Aztek, Inca, Myans, They invented the concept of Zero... They still cut out hearts and ate human brains... They got conquered in three minutes...

In each example two things are certain....

The Arab and the Indians depended on God to help them win their war and lost horribly...

The Macedonians and the Spanish were fighting for MONEY and RICHES... They annihilated the opposition and got wealthy doing it.

www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk

Pakistan and cancer research.

Pakistan and cancer research.

#78 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

Hey!! We finally got one! Alright... I'm sure it compares to Sloan Kettering too.

Now is that just a hospital in Pakistan that does cancer research, or when I asked that did a light immediately click on and you said, "oh yeah, you gotta get get to Pakistan when you have cancer." lol

www.suparco.gov.pk

www.universityworldnews.com

Space

Neither Europe nor America saw advancements in science until oppressive regimes were replaced with a more tolerant ones that allowed discovery to thrive.

Newton would have been hung under the Holy Roman empire. Copernicus and Galileo were threatened with death for espousing their theories. DiVinci had to hide his work drawing the human anatomy for the same reasons. Popes who, for all intents and purposes, were as ruthless as any hard line mullah.

The launch of the Emirates first US$50 million earth-observation satellite on 30 July was the first step in implementing the plan.

well I stand corrected... clearly they are at the forefront of space exploration. LOL

Would you call the UAE extremist Islam or more moderate?

#77 | Posted by themaniscoming

Ya, comparing war machines with scientific discovery is a slam dunk, eh? Geesh

Neither Europe nor America saw advancements in science until oppressive regimes were replaced with a more tolerant ones that allowed discovery to thrive.

You are 100% right.

When are Muslims in the Middle East going to get around to overthrowing their oppressive regimes as we did?

Now you will say they aren't as significant as the economic super powers.

#84 soon I hope. But that has nothing do with religion.

Rob the goalpost mover.

#84 soon I hope. But that has nothing do with religion.

#86 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

How do you figure it has nothing to do with a religion when the entire region is dominated by a single religion?

Hundreds of years ago in Europe Christianity was the problem. It was oppressive and extremist and not until they broke away from the church in many ways did they advance.

The same has to happen to Muslims. Until they do, I don't really like them, like I wouldn't like a Christian from the 1300s.

When are Muslims in the Middle East going to get around to overthrowing their oppressive regimes as we did?

We'll see what happens in Iran. Sadly, colonialization opened the door to those repressive regimes. Sad modern history for the Middle East - not of their own making. Thank our dependence on oil. Iran had a parliamentary system until we overthrew their Prime Minister and installed the Shah, for example. We carved up Arabia to suit our own purposes. We support an unpopular monarchy in Saudi Arabia over little but oil. We helped Saddam into power ... the list goes on.

We stood by silently as Lebanon, the most democratic, most religiously diverse, most Westernized ME country was bombed back to pre Lebanese civil war status by our 'friend' Israel - all while moaning about the election results WE called for in Palestinian territories because we didn't like the outcome.

So American Muslims should go back to their parents counties to overthrow the governments or you won't like us.

Haha. I don't need your retard love.

"Anything of value that Arabs invented was destroyed in the fire of the Alexandria Library."

Someone didn't do well in algebra.

Or history, for that matter.

"should go back to their parents counties"

Harris County would be good.
Piss off aflacbabble.

So American Muslims should go back to their parents counties to overthrow the governments or you won't like us.

No... the people of those nations should rise up against their leaders and their religion. American Muslims for the most part are moderates and contributers to our society, just like in Canada and most western European nations.

I love that whenever there is a story of some African Bishop telling people condoms will give them AIDS Libs can't bash the Catholic Church fast enough. But you bash Islam and that's just unacceptable, even though they hate most things liberals hold true (Equal rights, reproductive rights, education, etc)

The HinduArabic numeral system burned in a fire?

News to me. Here I was using a base ten system and everything...

"We stood by silently as Lebanon, the most democratic, most religiously diverse, most Westernized ME country was bombed back to pre Lebanese civil war status by our 'friend' Israel - all while moaning about the election results WE called for in Palestinian territories because we didn't like the outcome."

That kind of criticism completely absolves the Lebanese of any responsibility for their part in creating that situation. They aren't overgrown babies. They don't get graded on a curve. If there are rocket attacks against your neighbor originating from within your borders and you refuse to stop them, you can reasonably expect that neighbor to react violently. The Lebanese knew this as well as anyone. They made a choice and suffered the the entirely predictable consequences of that choice.

KLIFFORD

Anyone who has a minimal grasp of modern history in the ME know foreign intervention has caused much of the heartache and delivered all too many tyrants who hold back their own people in the ME.

Religious right wingers in America are, by and large, our version of the Taliban. If they had their way we'd still be burning people at the stake here, or use Old Testament stonings against any 'heretics'. When 'God' tells them something's OK, they go for it = whether or not Jesus said it was OK. I know the same is true in Islam. The few who use it for their own power - as Christianity did for thousands of years - make the vast majority look culpable.

Examine the thread about the Baptist preacher who prayed for John Murtha, a highly decorated war hero career Marine, to die (a 'Fatwa' in essence), or Robertson or Falwell, who call natural catastrophes or terrorist attacks like 9/11 - "God's wrath" against certain stripes of mankind. Pitiful.

Sadly, colonialization opened the door to those repressive regimes

India was a colony once too... why aren't they ruled by some repressive dictator and an extremist religion?

But even if they were, when does the "we were a colony once" get of of jail free card expire?

If i remember correctly America was once a colony ruled by a prick nation, and I think we've turned out okay.

#95 | Posted by Sully

It wasn't the large Christian community, nor the Orthodox community, nor most Lebanese who fired rockets at Israel. It was a small group of Hezbollah radicals in East Beruit who did. Yet, the entire country was punished - excessivly - ruining 20 years of infrastructure and putting the entire democratically elected government at risk.

Since when is it American to punish an entire population for the sins of a few? We should bomb entire neighborhoods here when an individual from that community kills someone? It's downright Saddam tactics for us to have allowed the Israelis to overreach so massively - further inflaming anti-American sentiment in the entire region as our support of Israel and invasion of Iraq so aptly proved to have done.

Iran's support of Hezbollah wouldn't have been possible had it not been for our own Project Ajax overthrowing Iran's democracy in the 50's. Iran would be a European type country if we hadn't done that.

Religious right wingers in America are, by and large, our version of the Taliban.

Yeah, constantly breaking into people's homes with axes to kill them for drawing a picture of Jesus.

It was a small group of Hezbollah radicals in East Beruit who did

Hezbollah being a major portion of their government right?

Since when is it American to punish an entire population for the sins of a few?

Dresdin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki

"I think we've turned out okay."

Yeah, we caused the greatest extinction in the history of the planet by being stupid.

And just when we had a glimpse of knowledge.

www.madisonpubliclibrary.org

Yeah, we caused the greatest extinction in the history of the planet by being stupid.

huh?

The Five Worst Extinctions in Earth's History

Pakistan was a part of India too, until we intervened and aided in partitioning it. India embraced a parliamentary system. We didn't attempt to install a dictator who would do our bidding.

Had it not been for Ghandi, India could easily have gone the way of other countries and become a dictatorship after the British Raj ended and the British left.

Greatest NUMBER of extinctions, rob. Separate species.

Had it not been for Ghandi, India could easily have gone the way of other countries and become a dictatorship after the British Raj ended and the British left.

#103 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Gotcha... white people bad, responsible for all the Middle East and all post colonial nations troubles.

Greatest NUMBER of extinctions, rob. Separate species.

#104 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

From the link above:

"The Permian-Triassic catastrophe was Earths worst mass extinction, killing 95 percent of all species"

And you guys are saying America has done worse than that?

That's the reason the Middle East is so progressive. Too bad that they can't fly unless of course the Obama PC corps approves a waiver for all muslims.

Hezbollah being a major portion of their government right?

Hezbollah hold 14 out of 128 seats in the Lebanese Parliament. I wouldn't call that a 'major portion'. I'd call it a 'small portion'.

Had we supported the Lebanese government the past 20 years, Hezbollah would have lost power. But, since Lebanon was poor, Hezbollah has been the place to get needed services for Beruit residents.

#101 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2010-02-13 06:33 PM | Reply | Flag: Perpetual Fear Merchant

Hezbollah hold 14 out of 128 seats in the Lebanese Parliament. I wouldn't call that a 'major portion'. I'd call it a 'small portion'.
Had we supported the Lebanese government the past 20 years, Hezbollah would have lost power. But, since Lebanon was poor, Hezbollah has been the place to get needed services for Beruit residents.
#108 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I'll grant you that is not a major portion.

But that is still a terrorist organization as a member of their government right?

What if 15 Senate seats in our government were held by active and enthusiastic members of the Ku Klux Klan, and they were a welcome part of our government?

Americanunity... Ya, comparing war machines with scientific discovery is a slam dunk, eh? Geesh

I don't know what planet you live on there American... But for all time. the two have been inseparably linked.

The invention of the Bone club was a breakthrough in science.... The invention of Fire... The invention of the Spear, The slingshot, The Bow and Arrow, The Wheel, The Chariot, The Whip.... On and On...

SCIENCE!

BTW, ROB

14 out of 128 Lebanese Parliament seats is 9%.

Those who fired rockets at Israel were a handful of Hezbollah. Israel massively overreacted and set back Lebanon and increased Hezbollah sympathy and anti-American sentiment many fold.

We cut off our noses to spite our faces over that one. Time we quit doing that. Terrorism is born in the midst of poverty and oppression. Our own founding fathers were terrorists too when they'd had their fill.

We cut off our noses to spite our faces over that one

We (America) didn't do a damn thing in that war. It was between Israel and Lebanon and Lebanon started it.

Israel massively overreacted and set back Lebanon

Overreaction or not, Lebanon is responsible since Israel was at the end of the day responding to an attack by Lebanon. If Lebanon is going to have Hezbollah in their parliament, then they are responsible when Hezbollah attacks another nation.

Had France taken another side in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 (as we've done wrongly in all too many other countries) America wouldn't exist. America's well documented support of tyrants in the ME has bred justly earned animosity.

ROB

Israel has far more war mongers in their Parliament than Lebanon's EVER had. It isn't as though Israel has never done a preemptive strike anywhere in the region.

Had France taken another side in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 (as we've done wrongly in all too many other countries) America wouldn't exist.

We got our asses handed to us in the War of 1812. Diplomacy saved the United States in that war, not the French.

In the Revolutionary war, the French sped up the inevitable... we should be grateful to them for their help and support, but eventually we would have gained independence.

Had France taken another side in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 (as we've done wrongly in all too many other countries) America wouldn't exist.

And you'd be a happy fucking peon now, wouldn't you?

I don't know what planet you live on there American... But for all time. the two have been inseparably linked.

Sorry. The biggest discoveries in all the sciences until the past 200 years weren't borne of war. Math, language, biology, etc. had nothing whatsoever to do with war.

Israel has far more war mongers in their Parliament than Lebanon's EVER had. It isn't as though Israel has never done a preemptive strike anywhere in the region.

#115 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Like you said, almost 10% of Lebanon's parliament is made up of actual terrorists. How do you expect Israel to react when 10% of Lebanon's parliament is made up of Hezbollah terrorists, and then they are having rockets fired at them from lebanon and their soldiers are being ambushed and killed?

The lesson that Lebanon should have learned from that war is that if you're going to bring terrorists into your elected government then they as the people voting are just as responsible.

PS themaniscoming

I live in America - where libraries are all over the place and have been used profusely in my life. History is history whether or not your opinion says otherwise.

ROB

You know as well as I do Israel's never needed an excuse to bomb someone or begin a conflict. Punishing an entire populous because of the acts of a few is so - Saddam, and against our national security interests.

In the Palestinian territories, Israelis act no differently than the Redcoats did in Revolutionary times. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

America's well documented support of tyrants in the ME has bred justly earned animosity.

Which tyrants would that be? The Saudis?

Jorden?

The Shah of iran?

which ones?

"It was a small group of Hezbollah radicals in East Beruit who did. Yet, the entire country was punished - excessivly - ruining 20 years of infrastructure and putting the entire democratically elected government at risk."

And it was the Lebanese duty to stop them. If you openly allow people to use your territory to attack another nation, that is veyr clearly an act of war. Again, you fail to treat the Lebanese as adults.

"Since when is it American to punish an entire population for the sins of a few?"

Did you attack Lebanon? I missed it. Israelis live under a very different set of circumstances than we do. I don't like alot of the things they do. I wish we wouldn't give them money. But I wouldn't presume to tell them how to respond to when attacked.

"Iran's support of Hezbollah wouldn't have been possible had it not been for our own Project Ajax overthrowing Iran's democracy in the 50's. Iran would be a European type country if we hadn't done that."

You're going back over 50 years and all the way to Iran to absolve present day Lebanese of their responsibilities. Why are we hyper-responsible for the consequences of our actions 50 years after the fact while other people are not responsible for the obvious consequences of what they are doing in the present? Why are they not equal with us? There is a clear double standard being used in this excuse making.

ROB

Without France we wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War. We bought munitions from them - which they delivered to us. They engaged the British at sea.

In the War of 1812, France was fighting the British too. If Britain had had only one front to fight on a different outcome may have come of it. Instead, France's engagement of the British concurrently to ours split their forces, otherwise the entire British armada would have been on the East Coast.

"Jorden?"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But I wouldn't presume to tell them how to respond to when attacked.

When OUR national security is put at risk through vastly increased anti-American sentiment - especially in that region - we should definitely tell them when to cut off their revenge. Especially when it threatens to take down the one democracy in the ME that is multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and has been Western friendly for decades and decades.

I'm gonna go take care of Valentine's Day shopping.

Good to have a civil debate. Refreshing as heck.

Later

You know as well as I do Israel's never needed an excuse to bomb someone or begin a conflict.

True, but in this case, Lebanon gave them one.

Nobody cried for Georgia when they got their asses stomped on by the Russians, because Georgia started the war.

If you start a war and get you ass kicked you don't deserve sympathy.

The only explanation for the sympathy towards Lebanon IMO has to do with the far Left's dislike of Israel... ironic considering how many of you are slamming me for my dislike of Muslims.

Math, language, biology, etc. had nothing whatsoever to do with war.

#118 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

The internet, one of mans greatest inventions over the past century was created by the military for use in case of a catastrophic war... queue the Al Gore jokes.

I'm out too... later fuckers

Muslim extremist to the body scanner: "I KEEEL YOU!!!"

"The internet, one of mans greatest inventions over the past century was created by the military for use in case of a catastrophic war."

The World Wide Web, created by one physicist so we (Physicists, not you miserable ignorant, superstitious rabble who need to be exterminated as soon as possible.) could communicate amongst ourselves, was stolen by idiot salesmen for the destruction of civilization.

Or so it may seem to the "No Child Left Behind" crowd.

"was created by the military for use in case of a catastrophic war"

That would be ARPANET, goober.
I had an account back in '77.

I've had it.
I'm issuing a Fatwa against Muslim extremists-they are all to immediately turn themselves over to the Israelis to serve as slave labor.
Or, they can turn themselves in to the nearest Soylent Green center for processing into food.

War is Science.

"War is Science."

#135 | Posted by themaniscoming at 2010-02-13 07:25 PM | Reply | Flag: The perfect cognitive dissonance utterly bassackwards eigenvector.

The very notion of No Child Left behind is anathema to the survival of not only homo sapiens, but the post-dinosaur mammalian world on this little ball of dung.

"Or, they can turn themselves in to the nearest Soylent Green center for processing into food."

Do you want fries with that?

#131 | Posted by Docsmooth

Achmed The Dead Terrorist would look the same on the inside of the body scanner as he would outside. Funny you should bring that up on this thread LOL

www.youtube.com

"Achmed The Dead Terrorist"

I KEEL YOU!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jeff's a pilot.

The only explanation for the sympathy towards Lebanon IMO has to do with the far Left's dislike of Israel... ironic considering how many of you are slamming me for my dislike of Muslims.

#128 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

It's your explanation, ROB.

The 'left' doesn't hate Israel.

In fact, most Jews are Democrats. It's warmongering right wing radicals most of us can't stand.

Muslim Leaders Issue Fatwa Against Body Scanners

Who woulda guessed?

"Especially when it threatens to take down the one democracy in the ME that is multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and has been Western friendly for decades and decades."

Again you are talking about them as if they were not rocketing their neighbor. I don't feel this can be discussed reasonably when one party is portrayed in the most favorable light despite the reality of their behavior.

Achmed The Dead Terrorist

I like Achmed

Achmed's funny! 'Walter', the perpetually grumpy old man, is too IMO.

"The 'left' doesn't hate Israel" More bullshit from au. You can read this site everyday nearly and see the hatred for Israelis. The "left" bitches and moans repeatedly how Israel is supported by the United States.

so what if Jews are typically democrats? That's American politics. Ask any Israeli living in "Israel" and they would almost always side w/ defending their country. You show your arrogance of the "ugly American" by saying that Jews living in America are democrats.

That would be ARPANET, goober.
I had an account back in '77.

#133 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

uh huh... basically the first generation internet. Everything sprung from there.

#145 | Posted by Dalton

Bullshit. Dislike of the right wing Israeli politicians who never heard of a weapon they didn't like to use, or a war they wouldn't like to start.

Jews are overwhelmingly Democrats, bubba.

Jews are overwhelmingly Democrats, bubba.

#148 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Huge difference between Jewish American and Israelis.

Just from what I've seen here, and on numerous other Left Wing blogs, the Left does not like Israel.

Case in point:

Israel has far more war mongers in their Parliament than Lebanon's EVER had. It isn't as though Israel has never done a preemptive strike anywhere in the region.

#115 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

"Jews are overwhelmingly Democrats, bubba."

In American politics bubba! You are lost when it comes to Jews defending their own country! The Isrealis population overwhelminlgly defend themselves time and time again. The last time they "Israelis" were attacked they kicked ass! Now the countries that attacked want their land back.

"Bullshit. Dislike of the right wing Israeli politicians who never heard of a weapon they didn't like to use, or a war they wouldn't like to start."

American Unity! You are a liar! Israelis have never started a war. they simply finsish them! They were surrounded by the Jordainians, Egyptians, and Syrians in 67. Then the Israelis kicked their snarky ass and took land. Now the muslims want it back? Too bad!

What the hell....???

LOL... I didn't visit DR last night and this thread has exploded from 5,6, posts to over 150?

And almost none are on-topic! LOL

What's up?

Reading most of the nonsense on this thread, I would like to make a few comments....

For Asshole-Rob, Pakistan holds the patents for mass production of Vinblastine and Vincristine.

Vinblastine is an antimicrotubule drug used to treat certain kinds of cancer, including Hodgkin's lymphoma, non-small cell lung cancer, breast cancer, head and neck cancer, and testicular cancer.

Vincristine (brand name, Oncovin), also known as leurocristine, is a vinca alkaloid from the Catharanthus roseus (Madagascar periwinkle), formerly Vinca rosea and hence its name. It is a mitotic inhibitor, and is used in cancer chemotherapy.

Plus, Pakistan is a world leader in nuclear-medicine research. We have used radiation to come up with high yield rice, cotton, wheat, plus created new fruits that like seedless grapes and mandarins that you have never seen. etc etc.

Just because Asshole-Rob can only read the comic-section of his newspaper, doesn't mean science is dead in the rest of the world. LOL

Pakistan was a part of India too, until we intervened and aided in partitioning it.

Until YOU intervened???

I like you AU, but that is just poppycock.

America had NOTHING to do with Pakistan's creation.

Hitler did. LOL

The Brits were broke after WW2 and they just needed a few more kicks to be persuaded to let go. Simple as that.

Had it not been for Ghandi,

Gandhi was killed very soon after India became independent, so his influence was minimal.

India did become a dictatorship... look up the "emergency rule" of the 1970s.

As for this "fatwa" about body-scanners.... you can safely ignore it.

The body-scanners aren't good enough to pick up shit anyway.

www.youtube.com

See? It couldn't even catch the Thermite the fat dude was carrying. LOL

People don't realize that I have NEVER had to consult a imam or mullah for ANYTHING, EVER.

What ... in your sick imaginations... do you think will convince me to listen to a "fatwa" from some nobody?

And since me, an ordinary guy, doesn't listen to any fatwas, what makes you think any terrier would? LOL

Again.... I repeat...

www.youtube.com

Watch this video. Watch all of it!

Body-scanners are useless. They are only there to milk more money out of the Gov.... how much does one cost???

It's a "gravy train", nothing more. LOL

Do you people realize WHAT that little amount of Thermite could do to a plane with it's aluminum skin?

Worse than a bomb, mate... worse than a bomb. And scanners couldn't catch it.

Now I ask you... *I* from a Muslim-majority country... come here on DR and show FAR more appreciation for logic and science (as do Klifferd and YS)... than the average American here.

Asshole-Robber shows zero appreciation for science and scientific history, in fact.

Why is THAT?

So much for Americans and science. LOL They seem to get most of their ideas by reading comics and watching movies.

Anyway...Body-scanners my ass.... intercept some thermite first and then we shall see.

Now I ask you... *I* from a Muslim-majority country... come here on DR and show FAR more appreciation for logic and science (as do Klifferd and YS)... than the average American here....

I thought I had read it all, but every day brings a new gem.

Have you made it to high school yet, or are you still in remedial education?

Have you made it to high school yet

Have YOU? LOL

I don't think so seeing the worthless non-informative babble that comes out of you and your kind.

Goodness, you are so stoopid, you didn't even have any idea that your scanners are useless.

Anything new, and you take it on faith..... the mark of a "jahil".

Shiny beads will work on you, I bet. LOL

Fact is.... the only people who seem sane and logical to me here... who have shown a good understanding of science in general are:

Zatoichi
Goatman
Zombiehunter
Me (ahem!)
Klifferd
YS
AmericanUnity
BruceAZ
Spud
Jackass (God forgive me)
and that lady... I think "Pheonix" her name is...

(the list is incomplete I know... I apologize for that)

The majority of you are pure dullards.

#155 | Posted by Tosser

Hitler was dead in 1947. America helped defeat him. Hitler had nothing to do with Britain leaving India. The Allies won the war. They could do as they pleased. It was America who urged Britain to leave India. Had it not been for us, India and Pakistan might very well still be Commonwealth nations.

I know the story of Mountbatten and all that. I'm also aware Pakistan wasn't created until 1947 and wasn't a Republic until the 50's.

No doubt you know a LOT more about your country than I'll ever know, but I do know that much.

#155 | Posted by Tosser

Hitler was dead in 1947. America helped defeat him. Hitler had nothing to do with Britain leaving India. The Allies won the war. They could do as they pleased. It was America who urged Britain to leave India. Had it not been for us, India and Pakistan might very well still be Commonwealth nations.

I know the story of Mountbatten and all that. I'm also aware Pakistan wasn't created until 1947 and wasn't a Republic until the 50's.

No doubt you know a LOT more about your country than I'll ever know, but I do know that much.

Bring it on raghead.

"Raghead"? But I'm not Arab. LOL

Just shows how stoopid you are since this is the best you are capable of.

I don't give a rat's ass about the scanners

Of course you don't, Jahil.

Get off this thread then.

Tosser only knows what his agenda tells him. He is playing out his destiny as well as he can, but he doesn't realize that it is futile.

Had it not been for us, India and Pakistan might very well still be Commonwealth nations.

We are Comonwealth nations.

What are you talking about???

It was America who urged Britain to leave India.

Nope.


but I do know that much.

I don't know who told you your version, but feel free to ask for your money back. LOL

Tosser only knows what his agenda tells him.

And you only know what you found written in the men's loo.

You repeat that here, is all you do. LOL

It was America who urged Britain to leave India.

Even if some obscure historical event pointed out that America "urged" Britain to leave, their is no way Britain could have stayed even if it wanted to.

It was Pakistan's plan to make Britain stick around till until 1957 (not 1947) and make the transition as soft as possible so that the rioting wouldn't happen.

If Britain left suddenly the way they did was because America whispered in their ear, then that makes America responsible for the deaths of a million people in the Partition. LOL

You want that responsibility on your head?

You want to be seen in history as the people causing a Partition before it was ripe, resulting in a million people dying?

Relax... we know today, they could not have held on in any event.. not when their own food was being rationed in Britain. It doesn't matter in the least what America might have said or not said to them. They ran out of here like their ass was on fire.

All thanks to WW2.

You are too fucking funny raghead,

I'm afraid I can get a lot funnier, honky.

I'm not afraid, bring it on.

I'm not afraid

There is no reason to be "afraid". hahahahahahahaha

What do you think I will do to you from across the internet?

bring it on.

Are you ordering Pizza?

Here we have some punk ass Paki spewing how great his country is and how America is a shithole.

Well son, there is nothing you can say that will ever bother me. We Americans are strong like that, and that is something you will never know.

Look at this Dxlinger... trying to fight against his own shadow. LOL

I made a dumb mutt run around chasing it's tail using a laser pointer.

Reminds me of DXlinger here. LOL

Here we have some punk ass Paki spewing how great his country is and how America is a shithole.

When did I do that?

I only deal in FACTS.

FACTS are what you learn in school... if you ever went to school.

Well son, there is nothing you can say that will ever bother me.

Oh good.... we have nothing to worry about then, do we noodle? LOL

We Americans are strong like that, and that is something you will never know.

Stick around and I'll show you how "strong" you are. LOL

Does Pakistan have patents in anti-cancer medication?

Yes (fact)

Is America a "shithole"? Did Tosser say that?

No (fact)

Do Americans, on average, seem more emotional, less logical and less scientifically aware than most other people in this world?

Yes (fact)

What can you do? LOL

Tosser

India wasn't unique. In the aftermath of WWII colonialized nations all across the Near East and Africa sought independence. I probably should have more correctly said "British Empire" rather than the Commonwealth.

Anyway, I wish Pakistan nothing but the best. I've known many Pakis over the years and liked them all.

You really should visit the U.S. one day. All the preconceived notions you may have incorrectly are preconceived notions. As you can tell from this blog, we have our share of Taliban. Ignore them. Undereducated bigots are miserable people in real life. We reap what we sow.

In the aftermath of WWII colonialized nations all across the Near East and Africa sought independence.

No other country got it until we showed them how to go about it.

Pakistan was the very first to break the Empire. After we were done with it, they just kept breaking up.

That was because, the British Empire survived and lived on our resources, men and labor.

When we became independent, the Empire became unsustainable.

You really should visit the U.S. one day.

If you can get some Indian and tar and feather him to make him look like an "Injun" and let him lose with the giant cactus, I'll be there in a second to shoot the varmit with me gun.

In the aftermath of WWII colonialized nations all across the Near East and Africa sought independence.

Wherever there were Indian/Pak people... we went there and actively broke up the Empire further. Just to say "thanks" to the Brits.

Pakistan even gave weapons to people like Zimbabwe in their freedom struggle against the British.

You know, what I'd like to see is for someone to issue a fatwa against fatwas.

TOSSER

Everybody wants to be free. We did our own thing against the British once upon a time ...

MARYTYLERWHORE

I hereby issue a fatwa against fatwas.

AmericanUnity:

I meant I'd like to see that done by someone the Islamic world would actually listen to.

Guess I should have spelled that out for you, huh?

I meant I'd like to see that done by someone the Islamic world would actually listen to.

There is no such person.

Islam is not an "organized religion" in the Christian sense.

No "church", no "pope", no "priests".

Pakistan even gave weapons to people like Zimbabwe in their freedom struggle against the British

I wish the people of Zimbabwe(Rhodesia) were doing half as well as the Pakistanis.I think the british prepared Pakistan and India for independance with their structure.Rhodesia and the Belgium Congo were pretty much personal fiefdoms.

AS far as WWII goes,in the middle Britain was pretty much fighting the whole war themselves,and the free world owes them alot

We did our own thing against the British once upon a time ...

Which reminds me, the rockets mentioned in the Star Spangled Banner, came out of reverse engineered rockets the Muslims used on the Brits.

Tipu Sultan was the first to use iron missiles in combat against the British.

Haider Ali and Tipu Sultan as regarded as pioneers in the use of solid fuel rocket technology or missiles for military use. A military tactic developed by Tippu Sultan and his father, Haidar Ali was the use of mass attacks with rocket brigades on infantry formations. Tippu Sultan wrote a military manual called Fathul Mujahidin in which 200 rocket men were assigned to each Mysorean "cushoon" (brigade). Mysore had 16 to 24 cushoons of infantry. The areas of town where rockets and fireworks were manufactured were known as Taramandal Pet ("Galaxy Market"). It was only after Tippu's death that the technology eventually reached Europe. The Royal Woolwich Arsenal's beginning a military rocket R&D program in 1801 that relied on the technology learned from Mysore.

After the fall of Srirangapattana, 600 launchers, 700 serviceable rockets and 9,000 empty rockets were found. Some of the rockets had pierced cylinders, to allow them to act like incendiaries, while some had iron points or steel blades bound to the bamboo. By attaching these blades to rockets they became very unstable towards the end of their flight causing the blades to spin around like flying scythes, cutting down all in their path.

These experiences eventually led to the Royal Woolwich Arsenal's beginning a military rocket R&D program in 1801, their first demonstration of solid-fuel rockets in 1805 and publication of A Concise Account of the Origin and Progress of the Rocket System in 1807 by William Congreve,[60] son of the arsenal's commandant. Congreve rockets were soon systematically used by the British during the Napoleonic Wars and the War of 1812. These descendants of Mysore rockets find mention in the Star Spangled Banner.

I think the british prepared Pakistan and India for independance

They didn't do anything for us.

Whatever they did, we forced it out of them. We had been giving them a hard time since decades.

We slowly took over their Govt. and their bureaucracy until it was too late. LOL

The rocket men were trained to launch their rockets at an angle calculated from the diameter of the cylinder and the distance of the target. In addition, wheeled rocket launchers capable of launching five to ten rockets almost simultaneously were used in war. Rockets could be of various sizes, but usually consisted of a tube of soft hammered iron about 8" long and 1 - 3" diameter, closed at one end and strapped to a shaft of bamboo about 4 ft (1 m) long. The iron tube acted as a combustion chamber and contained well packed black powder propellant. A rocket carrying about one pound of powder could travel almost 1,000 yards. In contrast, rockets in Europe, not being iron cased, could not take large chamber pressures and as a consequence, were not capable of reaching distances anywhere near as great.[56]

Haidar Ali's father, the Naik or chief constable at Budikote, commanded 50 rocketmen for the Nawab of Arcot. There was a regular Rocket Corps in the Mysore Army, beginning with about 1200 men in Haidar Ali's time. At the Battle of Pollilur (1780), during the Second Anglo-Mysore War, Colonel William Braille's ammunition stores are thought to have been detonated by a hit from one of Haidar Ali's Mysore rockets, resulting in a humiliating British defeat.

We slowly took over their Govt. and their bureaucracy until it was too late

That's kinda what I meant.

And you speak English,language of the world,n'est pas

"There is no such person.

Islam is not an "organized religion" in the Christian sense.

No "church", no "pope", no "priests"."

Seems like certain clerics can stir up large-scale violence fast enough.

I'm just looking for one that can stir up large-scale peace.

And you speak English,language of the world,n'est pas

Thanks.

And I can speak their language better than they can, if I want (which I usually don't... I keep mixing Urdu in it).

We learn by imitation and assimilating ourselves into their ways and manners. And then one day, we get what we want.

We are a very patient people. In the end, we always win. No need to hurry at all.

We ended Alexander's empire... we killed Chengis Khan off.... then the British Empire... then we killed the Soviet Union... it's in our nature to fuck up someone bigger than we are. LOL

We are the Asians you have to watch out for... not the Far Easterners. You can see THEM coming... you will never see us coming.

Seems like certain clerics can stir up large-scale violence fast enough.

I have never seen any "cleric" stir up large scale violence in or around my life. LOL

Stop dramatizing things.

you will never see us coming

Fuck,I was looking forward to a goodnights sleep,LOL

Fuck,I was looking forward to a goodnights sleep,LOL

No need to worry.

All I want is a blonde or two...or four... and I'll be as happy as a pig in his poopoo.

then we killed the Soviet Union

Hhar har har

Hhar har har

Old Russians aren't sore at the US for it's role and supply of weapons... they are still plenty sore at Pakistan and still won't properly trade with us.

Afghanistan didn't fuck them up. We did.

They called us "black storks" ("delivering death").

Anyways.... I wonder when Karachi airport will be conned into buying these shitty scanners?

When an "Empire" (British or Russian) comes out of a devastating war, it doesn't matter if it won or lost (losing is better though).

What matters is, their resources have gone up in smoke. In the Russian case they never recovered from that weakness and their own countrymen tore themselves apart.

America is falling into the same trap if you are not careful.

There is still time to back off.

Old Russians aren't sore at the US for it's role and supply of weapons... they are still plenty sore at Pakistan and still won't properly trade with us.

Afghanistan didn't fuck them up. We did.

sorry Tosser,I appreciate your devotion to your country and your patriotism.But Afghanistan was on the periphery of bringing down the Soviet Union,there was alot of fronts.And they won't properly trade with you because you are Sino clients,which you mention often

But Afghanistan was on the periphery of bringing down the Soviet Union,there was alot of fronts.

Oh, you think I'm making it up?

The Russian were targeted on two... and only two... major fronts.

1. Bleed them dry in Afghanistan (where we came in).

2. Fuck them up from Poland... where they started a printing press war, saturating the USSR with underground literature.

Third way they wasted money was trying to keep up with Reagan's fake star-wars program.

It finally broke the camel's back.

We wanted them dead since a long time, and we finally got a chance.

As for them not trading with Pak because we are Chinese-buddies, well they trade just fine with China, don't they?

Fact is, in Moscow's military cemetery, they have lines of graves where reason/location of going kaput is not given. That means Afghanistan... they still don't mention it, it hurts their pride THAT much.

Btw, the above was all shown on the BBC. I'm not the only one saying so.

If you want to really pinpoint the single thing that did THE MOST to bring down the Soviet Union?.... that would be the Stinger missile (thank you Charlie Wilson, RIP).

No question about it. Everything changed after that.

We are the Asians you have to watch out for... not the Far Easterners. You can see THEM coming... you will never see us coming.

Posted by Tosser

That why when you come to America, they make you big drive yellow cars with signs on the roof?

I see what you say Tosser and I agree,but that fact of the matter employees were being paid in soap and potatos.and folks were dieing for nothing.

Stinger missiles brought down their helicopters.

Were you a Zia fan?

That why when you come to America, they make you big drive yellow cars with signs on the roof?

Only in your imagination.

We are popping up in places you'd least expect. LOL

Were you a Zia fan?

At first, yes.

Then I disliked him.

But now I have a new historical appreciation for the slick bastard.

OK,decent answer

That why when you come to America, they make you big drive yellow cars with signs on the roof?

Only in your imagination.

We are popping up in places you'd least expect. LOL

#208 | Posted by Tosser

Big orange cars with signs on the roof.

Orange car or yellow car... make up your minds...

Any car is ok as long as it's not purple.

Anyone got a contribution in recent history?
-- #20 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Well, from two of my favorite pastimes (jazz and basketball): John Coltrane, Art Blakey, Idris Muhammad, and Ahmad Jamal were/are Muslim.

So are Kareem, 'Sheeeeeeed, Hakeem Olajuwon, Nazr Mohammed, Hedo Turkoglu, Mehmet Okur and Shaq.

Other prominent Muslims who come to mind are Youssou N'Dour, Cat Stevens, Muhammad Ali, Mos Def and Dave Chapelle.

Flying is not a right. If you want to get on a plane, you should expect a significant loss of personal privacy. Get over it.

#211 | Posted by Phoenix

Add Malcolm X, Yusef Lateef, Abdullah Ibraham (sp?), Jermaine Jackson, Fareed Zakaria...

Fareed Zakaria..

Everyone except HIM.

He's an Indian worm.

And he's married to a Jewish neo-con.

And he works for ... puke.... CNN... double puke... Newsweek.

Imagine the religon that is the caused all of this mess are crying foul

Not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorist are Muslim!!!

#211 | POSTED BY PHOENIX

You'll never hear me deny that individual Muslims are making contributions here in America or in other civilized nations. The further Muslims get from the Middle East nations and into more tolerant and open countries the better they seem to do (even though there are the occasional problems in countries like the UK and France).

What I have been asking for is a predominately Muslim country that is leading the way as far as advancing the people of this world. In any area. Such as if I were to say who is paving the way in physics right now, you could legitimately claim the Swiss and the French with their large hadron collider. New surgical techniques and equipment, obviously you could say America and some European nations.

That's what I mean. What are Muslims countries adding to the world? In what areas are they trail blazers? Its been quite a while here, and nobody has really put anything out there... Which I guess answers my question.

Kliff. The problem we have with Muslims including you is that you will spend 1000 times more effort bitching about body scanners and your rights being violated at airports than criticizing muslims for trying to kill thousands of innocent people. Your silence on cricizing those who are allegedly perverting your religion to justify killing is deafening. Why is that.

Since I work on the planes your kind wish to blow up all I can say is Fuck You and your sensitivities. I go through 10 time the security you could ever dream of just to go to work so you can suck on it!!

Captain Infidel

What I have been asking for is a predominately Muslim country that is leading the way as far as advancing the people of this world. -- #218 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Not an interesting question, imo. You could ask the same thing about predominantly Jewish countries. It's about as interesting as asking how the Israeli Olympic team is doing.

Not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorist are Muslim!!! -- #217 | Posted by obamaisbad

Last time I saw counts, the Tamil Tigers had committed more terrorist acts than any other group. They're also "credited" as the originators of suicide bombing and as the first terrorist group to use women in suicide attacks. They're a nationalist group pushing for separation from Sri Lanka, not a Muslim terrorist organization.

Not an interesting question, imo. You could ask the same thing about predominantly Jewish countries. It's about as interesting as asking how the Israeli Olympic team is doing.

#220 | Posted by Phoenix

I am not aware of any Jewish countries sitting on a billion of dollars in oil money

You could ask the same thing about predominantly Jewish countries

Except that Israel is a free and open society who does invest heavily into science, medicine, technology.

Look, I'm tired of this thread, its too big anyways. We all know the answer to the question i've been asking is there aren't any. So we'll leave it at that.

Wonder.... if there are any fatwas against suicide killers. Tosser? A little help with this please....

#24 | Posted by DavetheWave

AmericanUnity:

I meant I'd like to see that done by someone the Islamic world would actually listen to.

Guess I should have spelled that out for you, huh?

#184 | Posted by MaryTylerWhore at 2010-02-14 01:13 AM

I'll be sure to add "THIS IS A PUN" next time :-)

We all know the answer to the question i've been asking is there aren't any. So we'll leave it at that. -- #223 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

But again, it's a misguided question. (A) The answer is true of theocracies in general, not just Muslim theocracies. (B) The Soviet Union produced a remarkable number of great artists, writers and scientists, and I wouldn't want to follow their example.

How come they don't have a Fatwa against shoving bombs up their ass?

Not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorist are Muslim!!!

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!"

I am not aware of any Jewish countries sitting on a billion of dollars in oil money

No, but Israel has taken over 75 BILLION dollars of free American money in the last ten years. LOL

What ground-breaking scientific research have they done with it?

Nothing.

I'm tired of this thread

Sez the mutt chasing it's own tail.

It has been amusing, I must say.

So we'll leave it at that.

You are disingenuous and illiterate. And everyone else on this thread has shown you the error of your ways, yet you remain the "Jahil" you were born to be.

Let's leave it at THAT.

if there are any fatwas against suicide killers. Tosser?

You don't need to have a fatwa against suicide bombings chum.

It is a core belief that whoever commits suicide, goes to hell for killing himself.

Except that Israel is a free and open society who does invest heavily into science, medicine, technology.

Where is made-in-Israel car? DVD player? Toaster?

hahahahahahahahahahaha

I don't know what Israel has done with 75 Billion but I don't think but I like Jewish women with hooked noses. They turn me on.

What I have been asking for is a predominately Muslim country that is leading the way as far as advancing the people of this world. In any area.

I gave you what you wanted to know, Asshole-Robber with our anti-cancer medical patents....

So you want more? OK.

Pakistan is a world leader in producing new types of rice. We feed over a billion people with the super-basmati rice we created.

If that isn't good enough for you, then you must have a dent in your head.... oh wait.. you do...LOL

you could legitimately claim the Swiss and the French with their large hadron collider.

And parts of the collider were created/manufactured in Pakistan. (please do look it up)

Chootiyay.... LOL...

New surgical techniques and equipment

80% of the surgical tools the world uses, are made-in-Pakistan.

And yes, Pakistan is responsible for creating better techniques for repairing bone-fractures. Plus many firsts in baldness research and genetic research into why people stammer. (this is all from the top of me head... I am sure there is more)

Chootiyay. Dullard. LOL

What are Muslims countries adding to the world?

Nukes.

And more troubles for you. LOL

What is America adding to the world?

Obesity and debt and war! I don't see a single American product in the bazaar. What are YOU good for these days?

Not much.

I don't know what Israel has done with 75 Billion

Nobody knows. LOL

I like Jewish women with hooked noses.

That's a freebie, mate. You don't 75 billion dollars for getting a hooked nose.

One might as well ask China "what have you invented?" LOL

Answer is, "nothing".

And yet, they are running rings around America.

What has India "invented"? Nothing.

What has Brazil invented? Nothing.

What happened to America's war on cancer? Nothing. No results. LOL

Some people just have shit in their eyes. They only see things from a certain angle.

and your rights being violated at airports

Look at us wrong and we'll sue the pants off you, buddy.

To sue, is our right.

Go get the taliban... which your incompetent and useless troops can't.... don't you dare try getting cute with us ordinary folk.

We have something bigger than a nuke. It's called "lawyer".

Your silence on cricizing those who are allegedly perverting your religion to justify killing is deafening. Why is that.

We don't need to shout about such things because you are making enough noise for the rest of us, cry-baby. LOL

One might as well ask China "what have you invented?" LOL

Answer is, "nothing".

en.wikipedia.org

What has India "invented"? Nothing.

en.wikipedia.org

*No results found for "Inventions from Pakistan"

China invented printing,papermaking, compass, and gunpowder.

India invented cockfighting

Maybe you should take a walk outside and get some air.

That doesn't do one much good when the air is foul with goat shit, human sewage, and the stench of shame and insecurity that comes with being a marginally failed-state and welfare case for the global community.

People who ar3e prone to extreme anger live 5-15 years less then the national average.

And that doesn't even account for the possibility of being blown apart by a suicide bomber....

....something that seems to happen with regularity in the failed state of "Pakistan".

Tosser lives in Greece?

Even worse.

Pakistan.

At least Greece has an ancient cultural legacy that gave rise to the most superior civilizations in human history.

"Pakistan" is just a fake country some cartographer pulled from his ass for marketing purposes.

They're kinda like The Monkees of geo-political relevance.

One might as well ask China "what have you invented?" LOL

Answer is, "nothing".

en.wikipedia.org

I am talking of modern inventions. All these are ancient.

And yet they run rings around you.

What has India "invented"? Nothing.

en.wikipedia.org

*No results found for "Inventions from Pakistan"

When "India" did this stuff, India and Pakistan were one country. LOL

Idiot. hahahahahahahaha

You sure seem angry 'Tosser', you have posted 13 of the last 14 post in this thread

I am answering all the ones I wasn't able to get to last night.

It is my way... ancient and mysterious. Not for the likes of you to understand.

I am talking of modern inventions. All these are ancient.

Except ancient inventions are the prerequisite for modern ones.

And yet they run rings around you.

China doesn't run rings around us.

China's 20 to 30 years behind us technologically.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

When "India" did this stuff, India and Pakistan were one country.

*No results found for "Inventions from Pakistan"

LOL.

Jak-se-Mao..... you are known here as my whipping boy.

How many times have I had you banned?

At least 3 times. Or was it 4?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Poor little Paki me, takes a bite out of your ass every time.

You are the little mutt who keeps going yip yip yip at passing cars.

China's 20 to 30 years behind us technologically.

And yet they run rings around America.

*No results found for "Inventions from Pakistan"

All ancient "Indian" inventions are also Pakistani inventions. Sorry.

As for modern inventions, there are no results for any modern Chinese inventions either.

I come from a multi-cultural background

So do I.

and try to take pride in each of the countries that have played apart in my upbringing and vision of self. Without denigrating any other persons national experiences.

Good for you.

National pride often leads to feelings on insecurity and over statement of past achievements.

Hey, Mao-idiot is the one listing ancient India-Pakistan discoveries, NOT me.

I never once mentioned Pakistan's (United India's) contribution to Mathematics, for example.

Or the Kamasutra. LOL

Hybrid rice developed by famous Chinese agronomist Yuan Longping since the early 1970s is widely grown in China, with yields up to 12,000 kg per hectare. It has greatly increased yield on China's limited amount of arable land and been introduced to some Asian and African countries

The complete synthesis of bovine insulin -- the first time that human beings have synthesized protein -- is a huge breakthrough in the life sciences. The procedure was carried out in 1966 by a team headed by late academician Wang Yinglai

Compound artemether is a medicine invented in China in the late 1970s which has proven itself to be effective in treating malaria patients worldwide

Looks like that walk did you some good

It's morning here and I often unload a ton of answers to last night's posts.

It's not anger... it's efficiency. And quite a bit of disgust at Americans in general.

I have to talk to you in a certain way or else you lot just don't "get it".

Hybrid rice developed by famous Chinese agronomist Yuan Longping since the early 1970s is widely grown in China, with yields up to 12,000 kg per hectare. It has greatly increased yield on China's limited amount of arable land and been introduced to some Asian and African countries

Yes.

Just like we invented "Super Basmati" rice (Chinese hate Basmati, btw... you can't pick it up with chopsticks... they like sticky-rice) and are feeding over a billion people with it.

When there is a need, we .. the Indians... the Chinese... either invent, buy, or steal.

Not a problem. The caravan keeps moving, the dogs keep barking.

I remember when I was working at Mellon Bank we hired a bunch of consultants from an outsourcing company in India. They refused to work with this one employee because she was Paki. They said she smelled. They were right she did have a certain odor about her so we asked her to use breathmints

I remember when I was working at Mellon Bank we hired a bunch of consultants from an outsourcing company in India. They refused to work with this one employee because she was Paki. They said she smelled.

I'm afraid that never happened in the real world.

Lawsuits, remember?

YOur kidding me right. The indians were threatening to go back to india unless I got rid of the stink.

When I went to La fitness the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

Btw, you ought to know that when you are hired as a "consultant", you tend to go out of your way trying very hard to get along with everyone and not pissing anyone off, specially your client.

A single lawsuit is enough to end a consultant's career forever.

But then, since you have never worked in a corporate environment ever (yes, those of us who have can spot your BS), you might be forgiven for making a simple mistake like that. LOL

The indians were threatening to go back to india unless I got rid of the stink.

As you said, YOU have a BO problem, so they meant YOU.

the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

Your own words. LOL

Idiot.

Btw, you ought to know that when you are hired as a "consultant", you tend to go out of your way trying very hard to get along with everyone and not pissing anyone off, specially your client.

A single lawsuit is enough to end a consultant's career forever.

But then, since you have never worked in a corporate environment ever (yes, those of us who have can spot your BS), you might be forgiven for making a simple mistake like that. LOL

#263 | Posted by Tosser

I actually have worked as a consultant before. I worked as a 1099 consultant for the bank I work for before they hired me fulltime. When I was a consultant I didn't go out of my way at all. They needed me more than I needed them.

Tosser I have worked in a corporate environment for over 20 years.

The indians were threatening to go back to india unless I got rid of the stink.

As you said, YOU have a BO problem, so they meant YOU.

the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

Your own words. LOL

Idiot.

#264 | Posted by Tosser

I did not work with them.I worked in my office. They were very specific. They told me the Paki stunk. They refused to call her by her name. They called her The Paki

Tosser I have worked in a corporate environment for over 20 years.

And yet, you can't use proper grammar and punctuation in your posts?

Sure baby, sure... you wuz a "consultant". LOL

They told me the Paki stunk. They refused to call her by her name. They called her The Paki

Tell it to someone who believes you, Mr.Corporate-employee. LOL

You write like a hillbilly, and you worked at a bank? Really? Really really? LOL

I did not work with them and They told me.

I see.

1. You did NOT work with them. Yet they tell YOU stuff?

2. You admitted you have a BO problem. Yet you blame someone else?

3. You claim to have worked for corporates for 20 years. Yet you can't use proper English grammar???

Why are you making your bullshit so obvious?

I did not work with them and They told me.

I see.

1. You did NOT work with them. Yet they tell YOU stuff?

2. You admitted you have a BO problem. Yet you blame someone else?

3. You claim to have worked for corporates for 20 years. Yet you can't use proper English grammar???

Why are you making your bullshit so obvious?

Yes I was. I worked as a consultant many times. It is not unusual to work as a consultant in finance

Sorry for the double post...

YOU however, are spamming.

Watch it.

I did not work with them and They told me.

I see.

1. You did NOT work with them. Yet they tell YOU stuff?

2. You admitted you have a BO problem. Yet you blame someone else?

3. You claim to have worked for corporates for 20 years. Yet you can't use proper English grammar???

Why are you making your bullshit so obvious?

#272 | Posted by Tosser

I did not work with them on a daily basis. They reported to me but they worked for one of my junior managers.

I don't have a BO problem. Body Odor is a natural bodily function. I would not call that a problem.

I claim nothing. I stated a fact that I have worked in a corporate environment since 1992

It is not unusual to work as a consultant in finance

Yes, you read about it and figured it was safe enough to make a claim that you were a consultant too. LOL

However... junior... you ought to know it's not that easy to make claims when you keep tripping up.

I did not work with them and they reported to me.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

MORON!!!

They told me the Paki stunk. They refused to call her by her name. They called her The Paki

Tell it to someone who believes you, Mr.Corporate-employee. LOL

You write like a hillbilly, and you worked at a bank? Really? Really really? LOL

#268 | Posted by Tosser

I don't know what a hillbilly writes like. I have never met one. I still work at a bank. I will not tell you my current employers but in the past I have worked at Deutsche Bank, Mellon, Berliner Handel und Frankfurter Bank, and Merrill Lynch

I don't have a BO problem.

the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

You own words!

I would not call that a problem.

Of course you wouldn't. But others might! LOL

I have worked in a corporate environment since 1992

And yet you can't use proper grammar and punctuation in your posts?

Look... hint for you... use smaller words and sentences. You'll look less of an idiot that way. hahahahahahahahaha

MORON!

I did not work with them and they reported to me.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

MORON!!!

#277 | Posted by Tosser

Chief it was not unusual to delegate daily activities to junior mangers that worked for me. Any problems were brought to my attention

I will not tell you my current employers

Of course not! hahahahahahahahahaha

I don't have a BO problem.

the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

That is not a problem. That is a bodily function.
A problem would be if I got hair under my arm caught in a zipper

Chief it was not unusual to delegate daily activities to junior mangers that worked for me.

I am simply pointing out the little inconsistencies in your posts.

You are not even aware of what you are typing.

Now that I have pointed these out to you, you are trying to iron it out.

Too late.

MORON!

I will not tell you my current employers

Of course not! hahahahahahahahahaha

#281 | Posted by Tosser

YOu seem unstable. For all I know if I told you wher I worked you might try to blow up the building

That is not a problem. That is a bodily function.

the management asked me to use a more powerful deordorant because my arm pits smelled bad and the other clients complained

other clients complained

OTHER CLIENTS COMPLAINED.

Not a problem, huh? hahahahahahahahahahaha

MORON!

I am simply pointing out the little inconsistencies in your posts.

You are not even aware of what you are typing.

Now that I have pointed these out to you, you are trying to iron it out.

Too late.

Nope I don't use an iron. I dry clean everything.
There are no inconsistencies in the TRUTH

YOu seem unstable.

And YOU can't spell or use proper grammar or punctuation, Mr.Middle-Management. hahahahahahahahahaha

MORON!

Nope I don't use an iron. I dry clean everything.
There are no inconsistencies in the TRUTH

Bla bla bla.... whatever.... hahahahahahaha

Bugger off, loser. LOL

OTHER CLIENTS COMPLAINED

That is not my problem. That is their problem. FOr all I know the women complained because they were bloody below the waist

That is their problem.

Wow!

What a "corporate" attitude! LOL

FOr

See? He did it again!

the women complained because they were bloody below the waist

Yep.

That's yer "middle management" right there! LOL

YOu seem unstable.

And YOU can't spell or use proper grammar or punctuation, Mr.Middle-Management. hahahahahahahahahaha

MORON!

I was a good speller. I remember winning a spelling bee in 5th grade. As far as punctuation goes this is a message board not a English test.

You seem rather crabby. Every Paki I ever met is like this. Is this a genetic defect?

That is their problem.

Wow!

What a "corporate" attitude! LOL

YOu obviously have never worked in a corporate environment. Are you a day laborer? I am guessing you are a BMW mechanic

I was a good speller.

But not anymore?

What happened? Got hit by a bus? Suffered brain damage?

As far as punctuation goes this is a message board not a English test.

It's a habit.

One that corporate workers always have.

You seem rather crabby.

And you are a "corporate consultant" who dropped out of school. LOL

Every Paki I ever met is like this.

You have met nobody. No Indians, no Paks.

You are alone in your mom's basement.

YOu obviously have never worked in a corporate environment.

Have you?

Of course not.

YOu obviously have never worked in a corporate environment.

Have you?

Of course not.

#296 | Posted by Tosser

I already told you I have but we dress business casual so I don't have to wear suits. When I was at Merrill Lynch we had to made donations to charity to dress casual

But not anymore?

What happened? Got hit by a bus? Suffered brain damage?

Nope I don't take the car. I take the subway.

It's a habit.

One that corporate workers always have.

I send e-mails out everyday. Anything being sent to clients through the mail is done by mt secretary

And you are a "corporate consultant" who dropped out of school. LOL

I graduated from college in 1992

You have met nobody. No Indians, no Paks.

You are alone in your mom's basement.

I lived on the 3rd floor. The basement was a bomb shelter. I am part indian. I see an indian everyday in the mirror

DAN TIMM

"
I'll ask anyone one this blog, and please respond kindly, what is the purpose of this particular dialectic?

Anger, domination, humiliation of the other and ultimately the 'win'

Yes, yes and yes.

What planet have you been living on?

Get a sense of humor, will you? The dialog between Tosser and Bigpun is genuinely funny.

What planet have you been living on?

Dan-Timm is from Planet-Rex.

Dude.... you aren't hurting Rodgers at all.

All you are doing is wasting your own time and effort. He'll just delete you over and over.

Now then... where was I?

Oh yes....

but we dress business casual so I don't have to wear suits.

Bhangee.... did I ever ask you about what suit you wear? LOL

Talk about being defensive.....

I graduated from college in 1992

And went straight to being middle-management for a multinational bank???

Wow.

What school did you graduate from exactly? LOL

They couldn't teach you to spell, huh?

I am part indian. I see an indian everyday in the mirror

We finally have the truth! You are Indian!/b>

LOL... Idiot, you think I can't get in your head and turn you inside out, Slumdog? hahahahahahahahahaha

I send e-mails out everyday. Anything being sent to clients through the mail is done by mt secretary

Your WHAT secretary?

What is mt secretary?

You think I can't tell you got your english skillz from a Bombay footpath? LOL

Are you "Bumbaiya" posting under another name? "Baapoo Baapooooooo". hahahahahahahahahahaha

Corporate, my ass.

Tosser, I gotta tell you, you are like used toilet paper

Rex, I gotta tell you, YOU have been used and discarded like toilet paper.

I find you anywhere (I have found you out 3 times in two days) I will flag you, like I am doing now.

Your pathetic act is old and boring.

Ba-bye loser.

Note to RCADE.

Bigpun is also Rex.

Please check into it, thanks.

Time to find a Pakistan blog, you may rise to the 'top'.

Sez the guy who got shitted out the bottom. LOL

To RCADE:

New names of Rex Zitpit discovered in this thread...

Bigpun
Dan Timm

One is trying too hard, the other has that obvious shitty taste in music.

Both are new people.

but a small fry is a small fry

I think everyone on DR agree with me.

Rex, stop embarrassing yourself further. You are only making yourself look sad and pathetic.

Salvage the little pride you got left and move on.

Go towards the light, motherfucker... go towards the light!

Zombiehunter often wondered, who that mentally retarded Indian, "Bumbaiya" was.

I am will to bet it was Rex.

YOU are the only one behaving like a poltergeist around here, you piece of shit.

How many ID's have you used in your desperation? A dozen? Two dozen?

What a pathetic loser. LOL

Watch the skies, you never know when or where the death might come from...

Sez the dead-guy-walking. LOL

Poor poor Rex.

Kicked out like a stray mutt into the cold, forever looking in at people looking out.

Note to RCADE.

Please check their emails. This bastard must be using disposable email services to get his fake accounts.

For someone who makes dozens of fake IDs it's easier to use fake-email... disposable emails.

See?

When Rex Zitshit goes away, so did Bigpun and Dan-Timm.

Dan Timm why did you block me from Red white and Blue blog???

Big Pun is TIMBCI not Rex.

Big Pun is TIMBCI not Rex.

Why? Did he get kicked out too?

Bigpun

Tim Sawyer

Seniority: 2291

Party: Independent

Ideology: Conservative

Private E-mail
No Home Page

Joined 2010/02/07
Visited 2010/02/14

Status: user

dan_timm

Private E-mail
No Home Page

Joined 2010/02/14
Visited 2010/02/15

Status: user

Neither one got kicked out. They prob went to bed. It is the middle of the night here.

Neither one got kicked out. They prob went to bed. It is the middle of the night here.

Nope, you are only trying to muck things up.

Dan-Timm is Rex (who got kicked out over and over). He confirmed it about.

Big Pun is also Rex, I am sure. The style is the same.

about. = above

Why are you sticking up for Rex, Jackass?

How are YOU involved?

I remember you were kicked out of here at one time as well.

Back with an agenda? LOL

I graduated from college in 1992

And went straight to being middle-management for a multinational bank???

Wow.

What school did you graduate from exactly? LOL

They couldn't teach you to spell, huh?

#306 | Posted by Tosser

I graduated from Rutgers and I did not work at Mellon until 2005

I am part indian. I see an indian everyday in the mirror

We finally have the truth! You are Indian!/b>

LOL... Idiot, you think I can't get in your head and turn you inside out, Slumdog? hahahahahahahahahaha

#307 | Posted by Tosser

I am part American Indian you fool. I would much rather be from India than Pakistan. Pakistani women are rather ugly. Indian women are more attractive. Pakistanis have a poor reputation in America. They are dirty and cheap

Dan-Timm is Rex (who got kicked out over and over). He confirmed it about.

Big Pun is also Rex, I am sure. The style is the same.

#323 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-02-15 05:31 AM

Big Pun is not Rex. I can tell by the posting style. Rex posts shitty music videos in all of his threads.

Big Pun is TIMBCI. Big Pun was created Feb 7th the last day Timbci was used. I'm pissed at Rex he blocked me from his personal blog.

Tosser you say Pakistanis hate Indians but here in America I see quite a few Indo-Pak marriages? I think it isn't a big deal in America compared to over there. I have been told cultures are very similar.

I graduated from Rutgers

So they don't teach you proper English at Rutgers?

and I did not work at Mellon until 2005

I have worked in a corporate environment since 1992

and

Tosser I have worked in a corporate environment for over 20 years.

It's not 2012 yet, Indian. hahahahahahahahahaha

20 years, my ass.

So you got out of Rutgers when? In 1992.

Since 1992 to 2005 you were doing what? Digging latrines?

See how easy it is catching your lies?

To cover up, you are only digging yourself in deeper.

Tosser. You are an idiot. I am not Rex. I am not Timbci. I am Bigpun. My real name is Cornwallis. I run like the wind. People say I am a little bit Zak, a little bit A.C. It doesn't matter as long as Kelly goes with me to the prom. I got to admit I always had a secret crush on Jesse Spano.

Indian women are more attractive.

Yes... being a Hindoo, you would say THAT. LOL

They are dirty and cheap

You do know that 660 million Indians don't use a toilet, right? hahahahahahahahaha

www.drudge.com

Timbci is also from Jersey. I believe he said coltsneck if I recall. BigPun and Timbci have so many similarities it is amazing. Rex is from Seattle not even close to New Jersey.

India has the second most Muslims in the world.

My real name is Cornwallis.

Like in Gen.Cornwallis, the guy who took down Tipu Sultan? (discussion up-thread)

Idiot, you are so transparent.... you are taking cues from me.

Timbci is also from Jersey. I believe he said coltsneck if I recall. BigPun and Timbci have so many similarities it is amazing. Rex is from Seattle not even close to New Jersey.

Colts Neck is way beyond my means. It is one of the wealthiest towns in NJ. I am a mid level operations manager. I doubt many people on here could afford Colts Neck. I wish I could.

I started working as an intern with Merrill Lynch in 1990 fool.

Aha. The story changes AGAIN!

From 1992 to 2005 I was working at other banks/broker-dealers.

More like you were working at a bakery bagging donuts.

And I am sorry... you are not Rex.

Bigpun is Jackass... trying to use me to dig Rex deeper into his grave.

Look at the posting times of Bigpun and Jackass.

I knew if I kept talking you would mess up someplace. LOL

Gotcha.

I would never take cues from a Paki. To be honest I wouldn't even shake a Paki's hand. They are dirty

#335 | Posted by Bigpun at 2010-02-15 05:57 AM

#336 | Posted by jackass at 2010-02-15 05:57 AM

Dial-up connection. Log off, log on. Under one minute. Never the same IP.

I would never take cues from a Paki.

You just admitted to it.

You called yourself "Cornwallis".

I discussed Tipu Sultan in this thread, that's why.

Simple. LOL

Dial up bwahahaha funny. Seriously I'm not BigPun either. What you are saying would be pain in the ass of logging and logging off.

I came here tonight because I found out one of my old friends is a 'nemesis' on this blog and wanted to experince first hand why that would be attacting.

Maybe one of you can help me, is the desired expectation of purpose, wiping ugly on the other?

Because it seems a s somewhat futile en devour.

Posted by dan_timm at 2010-02-15 02:45 AM | Reply

I think it's really cute when Rex tries to pretend he got an education worth what his parents spent on it.

They are dirty

Sez the nut-case who stole from his own kid. LOL

Tosser You got nothing.

What is wrong with working at a bakery. It is a union job and in this area it probably doesn't pay much less than what I do.

The story never changed. I graduate from Rutgers in 1992 and went to BHF Bank. Prior to that I worked as an intern for Merrill in a corporate environment.

YOur reading comprehension sucks

Dial-up connection. Log off, log on. Under one minute. Never the same IP.

#341 | Posted by Tosser

This is not Pakistan. No one uses dial up here

#344 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2010-02-15 06:07 AM

Just like the coward you are to come on and post after that person is already gone. I guess you still haven't gotten over Horace kicking your ass.

Who is this Rex guy he sounds cool. So does Timbci.

OK I admit it. I am Jackass

"Today Colts Neck real estate prices remain high despite the economic downturn, the current average listing price of a house is $1,455,838[8] and home prices are up 1.1% since last year."

Jesus that place is fucking expensive. Mine wouldn't even be a tool shed there.

OK I admit it. I am Jackass

#349 | Posted by Bigpun at 2010-02-15 06:11 AM

BS I am not you.

This is not Pakistan. No one uses dial up here

I haven't used dial-up since over 10 years now.

But you still use it.

Tosser You got nothing.

OK I admit it. I am Jackass

So I had nothing huh? LOL

MORON!

Jesus that place is fucking expensive. Mine wouldn't even be a tool shed there.

I actually though Colts Neck was higher. There are some big houses there. It all used to be farm land. Bill Parcells belongs to a golf club there called Due Process. $100,000 a year

Case closed!

Jackass
Bigpun

Same person.

Dan-Timm
Rex

Same person.

Jackass gets angry at Alexandrite for no reason at all except he was bad-mouthing Rex.

Conclusion, Jackass and Rex are in cahoots or are one person.

RACDE, please get rid of all this trash.

Jesus that place is fucking expensive. Mine wouldn't even be a tool shed there.

I actually though Colts Neck was higher. There are some big houses there. It all used to be farm land. Bill Parcells belongs to a golf club there called Due Process. $100,000 a year

Pathetic.... talking to himself now. LOL

OK I admit it. I am Jackass

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

I don't live in Colts Neck fool. If I did I would be having sex with a $500 an hour former playmate that is working as an escort

Please get rid of the Paki. He is trash

Yep. Bigpun is posting just like Jackass AND at the same times.

You have some horrible mental disease that compels you to go around trolling, yeah?

Rex and Jackass.... LOL... who would've thought.....

In fact, it might not be Rex at all. It's easy enough even for a moron like Jackass to sound like Rex.

All you have to do is post shitty music.

I admit it. I am Tosser

Funny.... too funny....

Did you think you would not be found out???

Sloppy, you are... and stupid. LOL

Tosser admit it . You are Bigpun

I admit it. I am Tosser

Too late, Jackass.

Besides, you don't have a Karachi IP. LOL

Funny.... too funny....

Did you think you would not be found out???

Sloppy, you are... and stupid. LOL

#362 | Posted by Tosser

Toseer. You have been found out . You are a liar. You are an indian pretending to be a Paki. What's up with the self-hate

Tosser why is your IP address in Seattle??????? YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides, you don't have a Karachi IP. LOL

#364 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-02-15 06:26 AM

Big Pun and I have different IP's from different states. Explain how logging on and off from dialup would explain that?

Tosser I think you have a crush on Jackass. He is very sexy you know

RCADE, you got rid of Jackass once before.

Please do so again. He is playing childish mind-games with you, using you to fuck up Rex's online-life.

Of course, Rex was a piece of shit too.... but Jackass is trying to capitalize on it as well.

Beware!

Would the IP addresses change if states secede the union?

Big Pun and I have different IP's from different states.

Now HOW would YOU know that?

Only RCADE can see IP's here. LOL

Gotcha!

Using proxies is child's play son. And you basically admitted to it.

I keep catching you out.... and you keep digging yourself in deeper.

Tosser. You are an idiot.
Typical Paki. See any drones lately

I would join the Army if I got to go to war aginst Pakistan

Tosser you are delusional. I'm only myself here.

Tosser. You are an idiot.

I figured YOU out, yeah? LOL

He did it again!

#373 | Posted by Bigpun at 2010-02-15 06:39 AM

#374 | Posted by jackass at 2010-02-15 06:39 AM

Any doubts left???

hahahahahahahahahaha

Pathetic.

But then Jakcass, you always were pathetic.

RCADE... I am sorry to tell you this, dude, but Jackass has taken advantage of your goodwill.... just like Rex did.

Please do something about this professional troll. Thanks.

Having said that.. I'm off.

My work here is done!

(clap clap clap.. audience gives standing ovation to Tosser)

So you think I'm logging on and off and inputting a proxy in under 60 seconds? Wow I must be really fast at this game. Not to mention typing too. Highly plausible. Not really it just shows tosser is delusional.

I'm logging on and off and inputting a proxy in under 60 seconds?

Just to see how fast it can be done, I just did it in 10 seconds with DSL.

Not a problem if you have proxy add-ons installed.

And now I'm off again. Bye.

(Crowd again gives Tosser, Oscar Award style standing ovation! clap clap clap)

I thought you said I used dialup? Proxy add ons? I don't even know what that is.

I thought you said I used dialup?

Just one possibility among many options.

Using dial-up will change your IP every time. Since dial-up is free (don't know about US), a it would be just like a cheap bastard like yourself to use it.

However, using something like DSL will work too.

And you don't know what proxies can be made part of your browser???

LOL

Tosser exits again! Crowd claps again!

Tosser has left the building.

You don't need to have a fatwa against suicide bombings chum.

It is a core belief that whoever commits suicide, goes to hell for killing himself.

#231 | Posted by Tosser

Then tell us 'chum' why was the 'hit' or whatever this dip shit fatwa really is.....was put on Salman Rushdie. Someone peaceful religion you have there if it tolerates killing someone for an insult!

pS Tell us, does Allah love you? CHALLENGE YOU TO ANSWER

Isn't it time that Western civilization declares a "fatwa" against the deranged Sharia law?

This is one fatwa I can buy into. No scan, no fly.

......Islam freezes progress at the moment it overwhelms a society.........

..........thats why all the achievements of Islamic cultures are in the past.........

........Islam is a homosexual movement that opposes human progress, gender equality, free speech and free thought........

......nothing good can ever come from it.........

You are all aware Indonesia is the largest muslim country on the planet, right?

India, China, and Indonesia also share the single greatest invention of the late 20th Century: Outsourcing.

Hello Tosser. I am singing Karaoke tonight

What a surprise.

Nothing but a narcissistic, self-centered bunch of hate-mongers.

Their God would prefer 300 civilians get vaporized at 40,000 feet, than pictures be taken of their exploding adult diapers.

Fuck them. Let them ride camels then. Even among those of us who mindfully tolerate these fucks riding next to us on airplanes...

...there ain't many of us who will miss them much either.

You can tell alot about a religion by the way the men treat the women.. I guess in's Islam's case, it's the way the men believe that God wants them to treat the women

Why do you treat your women poorly? God told me!
Why should you kill the infidels? God told me!
Why is it OK to kill yourself? God told me!

GodMother

It's not that hard

"Why do you treat your women poorly? God told me!
Why should you kill the infidels? God told me!
Why is it OK to kill yourself? God told me!"

Alot of major religions portray God as a total asshole. I remember as a kid hearing the stories of Abraham and Job and thinking "Why is God such a jerk?"

If you really think about it, if God is all powerful and omnipresent then literally everything God has ever done required no effort on God's part. Creating human life to God would take less effort than me holding a door open for the person behind me as I exit a room. Yeah, maybe that next person should say "thank you" but I'd hardly expect a visit once a week for the the rest of that person's life because of some effortless favor on my part..... Yet for some reason religion expects us to spend a good chunk of our time praising the almighty for what to him would be even less than a simple gesture. God is portrayed as all powerful but at the same time as being an giant insecure baby in the sky who needs constant praise and reassurance from us in the form of worship and if we don't give it to him, he'll torture us forever.

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