Bet one of 'em is named Huey.

That doesn't say much for the state of the right in America. The tea partiers' tricornered hat is supposed to be a symbol of patriotism and constitutional first principles. But when you take a closer look, all you find is a helmet made of tin foil.

That sums it up quite nicely.

I don't get it. The Tea Partiers go on and on about how this is a nonpartisan movement based on the American people waking up tot he evils of our Government or some such, so why is the rhetoric always so Anti-Obama? Even they have to be smart enough to realize that problems and attitudes that they protest take much more time to develop than Obama has been on the national stage.

Isn't this supposed to be an Anti-Government in general movement and not Anti-Obama specifically?

TFD-
The group's the disaffected portion of those who'd typically vote for conservative governance.

Republican leadership left a void... but Obama pushed the pedal to the metal in terms of driving an agenda well to the left of what TP'iers envision for America.

So, sure, it's easy for us to beat up BHO... but you'll also note we're not too gung ho for the likes of McCain or, for that matter, that Rep in the NY congressional race.

Change is afoot. We'll see how much influence it has.

Change is afoot. We'll see how much influence it has.

#4 | Posted by OohRah

Well, the claim is that of an across the board desire for change, I just see it as another anti-Obama(Dems) rant.

Why weren't you all complaining and holding conventions against the last administration, which was running wild?

I've been to one of their rallies here, a bunch of nuts is an understatement, a bunch of dangerous nuts would be more accurate.

#7 | Posted by danni

Must have been blogging from her Blackberry.

Well, the claim is that of an across the board desire for change, I just see it as another anti-Obama(Dems) rant.

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist

Why weren't you all complaining and holding conventions against the last administration, which was running wild?

#6 | Posted by TFDNihilist

I've been to one of their rallies here, a bunch of nuts is an understatement, a bunch of dangerous nuts would be more accurate.

#7 | Posted by danni

I've been to one of their rallies here, a bunch of nuts is an understatement, a bunch of dangerous nuts would be more accurate.

#7 | Posted by danni

And it's okay danni. Many people are far more comfortable at gay and lesbian parades than they are around regular folks from small town America.

It's okay. Really it is.

It's an affinity thing, I think.

Nanc is the head of her Tea Party need I say more?

Why weren't you all complaining and holding conventions against the last administration, which was running wild?

#6 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2010-02-11 07:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

because they weren't
1. black
2. dem

just a wild guess.

It's more John Birch than John Adams

Actually its more like John Hancock. Big, Bold, unwilling to quit; Sign here.

they passed out copies of the US Constitution & chocolate chip cookies

#9 | Posted by markh

Sure they did.

"...dangerously detached from reality" is how Kay describes Tea Party attendees.

DANNI calls them "a bunch of dangerous nuts".

A little soul searching and reflection from the voices on the left would be prudent here. There is a reason that the movement is gaining momentum.

Could it be caused by the governments precipitous slide to the left? Could it be the bunch of nuts in congress that are dangerously detached from reality?

Left Wing hacks deny the anger fueling the Tea Party movement at their own peril. November is looking more like a democrat bloodbath every day.

"Left Wing hacks deny the anger fueling the Tea Party movement at their own peril. November is looking more like a democrat bloodbath every day."

Which is exactly why we should allow them to just keep thinking that the tea party members are kooks. Clearly they did not learn from Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts. But then again, when did liberals actually listen to anyone outside of their own little brain trust? If an average Joe tries to speak out, he must just be some sort of kook with no knowledge, and merely needs to be educated. But keep it up, we'll laugh all the way to November, and wave bye-bye as they pack up to leave DC.

the tea party is a corporate red herring designed to splinter legitimate dissent.

the tea party is a corporate red herring designed to splinter legitimate dissent.

#17 | Posted by Shawn

Spoken like a true tribe member

re: ... but Obama pushed the pedal to the metal in terms of driving an agenda well to the left of what TP'iers envision for America.

I keep hearing stuff like this from the Armageddon crowd, but they never cite any examples, or point to any policy.

So what is it?

the teaparty folks never claimed to be political activists . . . just regular Americans who became tired of geting poked in the eye by gvt

Yeah, FOX, who organized the first tea party and supplied the speakers is just plain folk. If McLost had won and ran up record deficits, there would be no teabaggers. The baggers who love SARAH!! and hate the bank bailout seem to forget she supported it back in 2008. And the baggers who see deficits as theft from their grandchildren worship Saint Reagan and his deficit spending.

btw, I don't know a lot of regular Americans who can afford $600 bucks + to go to a political rally right now.

keep thinking that the tea party members are kooks. Clearly they did not learn from Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.
#16 | Posted by SpokaneJim

Were any of those elected Tea Party members or just plain old Republicans?

"Were any of those elected Tea Party members or just plain old Republicans?"

Many misunderstand the importance of third parties. While the Tea Parties have not yet become a true third party, the concept remains. Third parties are created when the rank and file parties (read Democrats and Republicans) do not fit an important desire of a large number of people. The lack of a true conservative party has driven many to join the tea party movement. The desire is for a conservative movement toward fiscal responsibility and a reduction of governmental control. All three elections reflect the trend toward conservatism from the Obama election of 2008. Mass. in particular was driven by the tea party movement, even if there was no tea party candidate. By marginalizing the tea parties, any standard party marginalizes a very vocal and growing voting group, and certainly a group of very likely voters. Both parties would be wise to listen, though in reality the Dems will simply laugh them off. That's fine, just keep ignoring the people that are likely to be voting. In the end, they will vote conservative. If the republicans address their concerns adequately, the Dems are likely to see, as someone above described, a bloodbath. Mass. should stand as a warning. There's no way in hell a republican should have won that seat.

re: There's no way in hell a republican should have won that seat.

#23 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2010-02-11 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, I can see how a Republican who is for the Mass. state health care plan of near universal coverage might.

That's one of the things I found interesting about that race, Jim. Brown's stance was not that the Mass. plan was a mistake or that he had any intention of attempting to do away with it, but that Mass. had already done the responsible thing and they shouldn't fund other states who weren't as progressive.

THAT was his campaign "opposition" to Obamacare. If you see that as a success, then I'm all for ya!

Isn't this supposed to be an Anti-Government in general movement and not Anti-Obama specifically?

Well... With the three trillion added to the debt in ten months and the health care thing, I think they are more down on the policy then the man.

If you folks are Okay with the three trillion and the 2000 page health care bill packed with bribe money for democrats to vote for it, then you are lying to yourselves.

You know the situation is bad. You know a three hundred million dollar bribe to Louisiana is a bad thing... Just to buy a vote? The new stimulus package is another Trillion added to the debt... That's four trillion in twelve months.

The government is out of control and these people are voicing their opinion.

The picture of the blond lady yelling at a town hall meeting is a lot better than any photos of Cindy Sheehan that I have seen... That bag of bones needs to be buried already....

Funny how the press doesn't cover her any more... She still protests the war... But she protests against Obama now.

They used her for an Anti Bush tool but she is not needed as an Anti Obama tool so she is no longer heard and photographed.

The fact that you would entertain anything the press has to say about politics at this point in time demonstrates just how far you have fallen into the Sheeple category.

They love people like you in washington... Your views represent only 47% of the population at best though. That is just what they want. Polarized people in a Polarized nation....

It's a win win for Washington... So Keep cheering for your side... They get richer and our grandchildren will be born in debt. Your doing a great job in condoning the destruction of America as we know it...

Your just as stupid as they hoped you would be.

Bet, you have some valid points, but miss the bigger picture, I think. There were people from all over the country donating to the Brown campaign, and had nothing to do with health care. The vote was a huge backlash against Obama. There is some irony, certainly, due to the Mass. health care system, but that's not what the voters were looking at. They could have gotten that from what's her face. The point being made by voters was most undeniably anti-Obama policies. I'm not entirely sure that it was even Brown that was elected. He just happened to be the non-Democrat on the ballot, and did an excellent job letting people know, while trying to inflame passions against Obama, that it didn't have to be a Democrat in the seat. This was an election about the people taking back their government. Brown just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Jim-
re: The vote was a huge backlash against Obama

Yeah, but not against anything he has done, but simply against who he is.

I think Jim has Spokane very well here tonight...

George Washing spoke out against the two party system over two hundred tears ago...

He was correct to the tee...

Look at where we are. This is now a government for the lobby and by the lobby. Not the people. Politics for pay. Plain and simple. Both houses have become dens full of thieves. Stuffing money into bills to be spent in their states. Big Contracts for friends and relatives.

SHEEPLE SHEEPLE SHEEPLE!

"Yeah, but not against anything he has done, but simply against who he is."

I have to disagree heartedly. The entire push for health care, the method of getting votes, the requirement of insurance, etc, is one good example. I don't give a fuck "who" Obama is, but I care deeply about where he's trying to take the country. He has made repeated promises that he can't keep (Gitmo), and pushes bills that the country simply does not want (health care, cap-n-trade). I realize that may libs want to blame disagreement with Obama on racism, but that's just an excuse they can use to deny that his policies are unpopular. Obviously he could not have been elected otherwise. At some point, the left must realize that Obama's policies, and the direction that Congress is taking the country, is unpopular. They can realize that now or in mid November after the next elections. Frankly, I prefer the latter.

Jim-
re: The entire push for health care, the method of getting votes, the requirement of insurance, etc, is one good example. I don't give a fuck "who" Obama is, but I care deeply about where he's trying to take the country.

Which is what your savior Brown is all for in Mass.

Jim-
re: At some point, the left must realize that Obama's policies, and the direction that Congress is taking the country, is unpopular.

Not to repeat myself too much, but the flagship of your rant was opposition to universal health care, which your prime example of an opposition candidate, Brown, is all for in Mass.

In fact, Jim, the Mass. health care system is very similar to the us senate bill.

He has made repeated promises that he can't keep (Gitmo)

A new supermax prison is being converted in IL to house them - after much GOP whining. Are they truly scared someone's going to escape...from a Supermax prison? How about 'Bush let 400 go from Gitmo and returned them to their home countries to fight another day'?

Then there's the crap about "The Christmas Bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: "THEY'RE GIVING HIM MIRANDA RIGHTS AND TRYING THEM IN THE US!". Reading is fundamental. Both Zacharias Moussai and Richard 'The Shoe Bomber' Reid were arrested, tried, and convicted in U.S. Federal Court. Abdulmutallab has been singing like a bird with true, actionable intelligence.

Now, if Brown had run AGAINST the Mass. health ins. plan and won, you might have a case, but he didn't, and you don't. As far as the pending climate proposals I do understand that it is winter and you can't really be expected to be reasonable or properly evaluate the data when you are cold.

#32 | Posted by BetelG

And Joe "I campaigned for John McCain" Lieberman, who can hardly be considered a Democrat anymore. Regardless, his state, Connecticut has (GASP!) a public option called Charter Oak. 3 affordable plans to choose from. So, why should he care either?

"Not to repeat myself too much, but the flagship of your rant was opposition to universal health care, which your prime example of an opposition candidate, Brown, is all for in Mass."

Please present any post that was a "rant." Trying to marginalize my opinion does yours no good. My discussion actually had little to do with universal health care, that was merely an example. Your reading comprehension is a bit off tonight.

"A new supermax prison is being converted in IL to house them - after much GOP whining."

Your rant was #30, Jim, where you attempt to establish the radical agenda of Obama but are brought to a halt by Brown favoring the Mass. health ins. plan.

You perhaps were then going to quote Limbaugh on the global warming hoax.

#38 | Posted by BetelG

You must be very tired or very drunk, or both. I never came close to saying any such thing. But your belief explains your following posts. Clearly Obama's "radical" (your term) hasn't been brought to a halt. And in no post did I claim that Brown favored the Mass. health insurance plan. He may, and likely does, but you're the one that brought that up. It's my contention that he was elected irregardless of his stance on that issue. You have become deluded.

Really, Bet, it looks like your posts have become nothing but deflections and Rush Limbaugh harping. If you have something against Limbaugh, take it up with him. It that's the best argument you can come up with against my opinions, you're not worth debating. I could just as easily claim you're getting all your thoughts downloaded daily from the HuffnPuff Post, but what does that add to the argument? Really, I have better things to do, and I'm sure you do to.

I thought I read someplace that the Mass health care plan was a disaster.....

Commonwealth Care faced a short-term funding gap of $100 million and the need to obtain a new three-year funding commitment from the federal government of $1.5 billion. A number of alternatives were under consideration for raising additional funding, including a $1 per pack increase in the state's cigarette tax. Health care costs in the state were rising at an annual rate of 10 percent, (What the hell I guess the cigarette tax will have to be two dollars) and the state budget deficit was $1.3 billion

This is yet another PLAN that doesn't work out on paper nor does it work when implemented.

Any Plan that relies on Other Peoples Money is not a good plan. If the rates are climbing 10% per year, Where is the extra money going to come from? MORE TAXES!

Three years from now the rates will be up 30%..... Now what? I thought this idea was supposed to bring prices down!!!!! They're not dropping.

The only way a plan like this could possibly work is to scrap the current federal income tax plan and go with a flat tax for everyone. No deductions, No Loop Holes, No nothing. Everyone pays 10% on all income on the books.

Guys like Senator Rockefeller who paid no income tax after earning over 100 million dollars from EXXON in 2006 would have to pay their share from now on.

That will never happen though.

Health care costs in the state were rising at an annual rate of 10 percent

Isn't that slightly lower than the national average?

Any Plan that relies on Other Peoples Money is not a good plan.

So, you're an anarchist then? No taxes, no government at all? Grow up.

...Which is what your savior Brown is all for in Mass.

#31 | Posted by BetelG

Although not addressed to me, I feel compelled to point out the difference. In MASS, it is LEGAL for the state to run insurance. If you don't like it, you can move to another state. States have BROAD constitutional powers. The FEDS do not have that authority. Their powers are limited. Leaving aside the argument that the Mass HC system is great or horrible, it is not constitutional at the federal level.

Does that help to clear things up?

There is a reason that the movement is gaining momentum.

It doesn't look to me like it's gaining any momentum at all. If anything it is isolating the republican party into two distinct factions. The latest tea party was a complete washout. Even their guest speaker, Sarah Palin, was no more then an overpaid RNC reject who proved that republicans can be suckered out of their money just as easily as the "liberal" government can sucker them out of it.

If the RNC and the tea party ever expects to win in 2012 they damn sure better shut up and get behind issues like health care reform that the majority wants, not the minority as they claim.

If the RNC and the tea party ever expects to win in 2012 they damn sure better shut up and get behind issues like health care reform

LOL.

Good ole Cinnamon-ring Master.

That one goes in the archives, buddy.

I think the tea party people are behind health care reform... just not YOUR type of reform.

They want to remove gov't from the equasion as much as possible... put power and decision making back into the hands of the people who are gettin the treatment. Remove gov't restrictions on product liabilities, etc. Major tort reform, so lawyers can't get rich putting obgyn docs out of business, etc.

See... there is REFORM and CONTROL. They are rejecting the gov't takeover.

It doesn't look to me like it's gaining any momentum at al

I have no idea what to say to fools like yourself. Perhaps having sex with your third world mail order bride has warped your logic.

Have fun in November.

by jim; There's no way in hell a republican should have won that seat.
#23 | Posted by SpokaneJim

betel responds; Well, I can see how a Republican who is for the Mass. state health care plan of near universal coverage might.

#24 | Posted by BetelG

need I even mention Obama's 53% - 47% mandate?

It's more John Birch than John Adams.

Nice.

Funny cos it's true.

See also: Sad.

The Tea Party are dominated by kooks.

As well as RNC has-beens like Palin, batshiat insane GOPhers like Bachmann and Corporate lobbyists like Dick Armey.

They are propped up, organized and given their daily talking points by psycho whackjobs like Glenn Beck and other propagandists on FOX.

Not to mention the Talibaptists, the rabid anti-choicers, the sekret muzlim believers, the birthers, the neo-nazis and the other, more subtle, racists in their ranks.

If the RNC and the tea party ever expects to win in 2012 they damn sure better shut up and get behind issues like health care reform.

Mounting costs, medical bankruptcies and millions more becoming uninsured or under-insured due to lobbied loopholes through corporate over-influence ARE a serious problem that needs addressing.

Only an idiot like Mao would think otherwise.

I think the tea party people are behind health care reform... just not YOUR type of reform.

They want to remove gov't from the equation as much as possible... put power and decision making back into the hands of the people who are getting the treatment.

The only way people an regain power over the Insurers and HMOs is through government regulation.

Removing government from the process is a sure fire way to make a bad situation worse.

Remove gov't restrictions on product liabilities, etc. Major tort reform, so lawyers can't get rich putting ob-gyn docs out of business, etc.

The idea of capping payouts on malpractice is not without merit but the right tend to hold it up as a be-all and end-all solution when it doesn't even scratch the surface of the problem and is only a right wing meme because of the support the Dems give to lawyers and vice versa.

American Health Care is among the best in the world.

The American Health Care delivery system is one of the worst in the industrialized world.

If Teabaggers wanna really get into the debate over HC reform they need to get over the idea that they should be arguing against it in toto and start offering up serious workable solutions based on something other that political animus.

Be Well.

What is the conservatives' view of global trade? Free Trade? Outsourcing? Off Shoring?

Spoken like a true tribe member

---------

go fuck yourself

Leaving aside the argument that the Mass HC system is great or horrible, it is not constitutional at the federal level.

I am not seeing anything in the Constitution which precludes single payer universal coverage. Can anyone explain why it's unconstitutional?

conventions against the last administration

Because Lil Bush was wh-

Left Wing hacks deny the anger fueling the Tea Party movement at their own peril.

Keep nominating 9/11 truthers and the tea party will be a memory.

What is the conservatives' view of global trade? Free Trade? Outsourcing? Off Shoring?

1. Great
2. Fantastic
3. Orgasmic

The neocon movement has a very short sigthed vision that sending good paying jobs overseas and replacing them with lower paying service jobs is perfectly fine.

"They want to remove gov't from the equasion as much as possible... put power and decision making back into the hands of the insurance companies where it belongs."

It's rants like Jim and the Man that just prove my point. They go on about Obama and the money he's spent and his "Obamacare" and such, yet the 8 years prior when the president was spending like a drunken sailor on wars and tax cuts for the rich while cutting services and oversight, they were totally mum, even supportive.

Can anyone show me if any speech at this convention mentioned at all the irresponsibility and debt explosion or decrying any of the last admin at all? Or was it just all "Obama Bad...Obama Bad" like Palin's speech?

If the teabaggers actually engaged in some
teabagging, they would feel a whole lot
better.

"They want to remove gov't from the equasion as much as possible... put power and decision making back into the hands of the insurance companies where it belongs."

---------

corporation = government without public input...

Well hello there snoofy.... Health care costs in the state were rising at an annual rate of 10 percent

Isn't that slightly lower than the national average?

Any Plan that relies on Other Peoples Money is not a good plan.

So, you're an anarchist then? No taxes, no government at all? Grow up.

Well if your going to chop my stuff up and then make allegations that I'm an "anarchist" with answering a single question, I'm gonna have to say you don't know much...

Typically people have no patience for the truth. It often makes them angry as it apparently does you.

My question was, If the rates are going up 10% per year where is the money going to come from...

The federal government is currently 12 trillion dollars in debt. China is going to be making decisions in Washington DC soon... Why the hell not, they paid for it.

Any plan that relies on Other Peoples Money is a bad plan because other people often can not afford what you think they can. Soon the plan fails.

The Mass plan is 100 Million in the hole and the state of mass is 1.5 Billion in the hole. The plan is obviously not working.

Simply stating that that is the lowest failure rate in the nation or the world for that matter doesn't change the fact that it a FAILURE.

I did grow up. One thing my father taught me is how to balance a fucking check book and a budget. It's nice to want things.... Even really special and wonderful things.. But if you don't have the money for those things it is irresponsible to assume that you can get them and worry about paying for them later with magic money freshly printed to be paid for by our grandchildren.

If the rates are going up 10% per year where is the money going to come from...

That is unsustainable. So is the 20% annual increase in private insurance.

But, we can't cut Dr reimbursements, can't cut hospital reimbursments, or mri's or ct scans, or or or or....

So where is the end?

The republicons are happy to stick their heads in the sand and ignore the 20% annual increase. $1,400 per month for family coverage.

Who's gonna pay it at $2,000 per month? $3,000? Only the sick people.

Insurance is a ponzi scheme.

But if you don't have the money for those things it is irresponsible to assume that you can get them and worry about paying for them later with magic money freshly printed to be paid for by our grandchildren.

People fail to appreciate the fact that politicians (of all political stripes) get re-elected by bringing home the bacon. That is why Republicans that voted against the stimulus are standing in line with their hands out and/or taking credit for bringing federal money (and jobs) to their districts. One of the major difference between Republicans and Democrats seems to be that Republicans want to spend and never pay for their spending and the Democrats want to spend and eventually pay for it.

Didn't Limbaugh say "Kooks = Retards"?

And didn't Sarah defend that assessment?

So by extension, then Limbaugh would characterize the teabaggers and Sarah as retarded, and she would have to agree?

And then we'd all have to agree with something uttered by Palimbaugh?

Scary.

I don't get it. The Tea Partiers go on and on about how this is a nonpartisan movement based on the American people waking up tot he evils of our Government or some such, so why is the rhetoric always so Anti-Obama? Even they have to be smart enough to realize that problems and attitudes that they protest take much more time to develop than Obama has been on the national stage.

Isn't this supposed to be an Anti-Government in general movement and not Anti-Obama specifically?

#3 | Posted by TFDNihilist

What part of it is too deep for you? They are for smaller government and the little o wants to increase government. What part of stupid does your question resemble?

TheManIsComing - Sorry, I think you missed my point.

You pointed out that MA is suffering medical inflation to the tune of 10%.

I pointed out that's actually better than the rest of the country.

So obviously Massachusetts is doing something right.

If we expanded RomneyCare to the entire nation we might see some economies of scale which would further reduce medical inflation. Note I said "if" but it might be a possibility worth considering.

Whether the payer is the Federal Government or the Commonwealth of Massachusetts or your employer, health care costs are out of fucking control. That fact does not change because of your ideological commitment to balancing your checkbook.

You asked If the rates are going up 10% per year where is the money going to come from...

Answer: If the rates are going up 10% per year that's actually a slight improvement over the national average. Let's find out how they contained costs and see if we can find more savings. And maybe take some of those ideas national.

You got a problem with that?

Isn't this supposed to be an Anti-Government in general movement and not Anti-Obama specifically?

#3 | Posted by TFDNihilist

What part of it is too deep for you? They are for smaller government and the little o wants to increase government. What part of stupid does your question resemble?

Well, Bush expanded government more than any President since FDR. He about doubled the number of Federal workers!

Where was the Tea Party then?

That's why their battle cry rings hollow to me. They have just found something to shout about but they didn't mind at all when the previous guy did the exact same thing.

It's possible the Tea Party folks are just slow to realize things. Is that the case, Sniper?

The most simpleminded statement of the day is in...

Abdulmutallab has been singing like a bird with true, actionable intelligence.

Oh really... Are we all supposed to believe that this punk kid has any knowledge whatsoever in regard to the Al Qaeda organization?

Are we supposed to believe he knows anything? All he knows is what they told him.... Do simpletons here actually believe everything they read and hear? Apparently.

I am sure the head thugs at Al Qaeda laughed their asses off when they heard that on the news... He's singing like a bird indeed...

I am sure they told him everything prior to his mission... I am sure they told him where Ben Laden is even...

How simple minded can you be?

SHEEPLE!

That kid spent a total of five minutes with Al Qaeda people... He don't know shit!

"Like all populists, tea partiers are suspicious of power and influence, and anyone who wields them. "

Just fyi everyone. The Founders also thought the same way. That's why they wrote it into the Constitution!

The author of the article is the one who is delusional. Think about it. He thinks that the way that Washington is running the country is doing a good job?

Sadly, the author is only hiding from the truth and is not alone. Most Americans want to believe that everything is just fine.

The want their NPR and a nice cup of tea in the afternoon...

Sad...

What is the conservatives' view of global trade? Free Trade? Outsourcing? Off Shoring?

1. Great
2. Fantastic
3. Orgasmic

The neocon movement has a very short sigthed vision that sending good paying jobs overseas and replacing them with lower paying service jobs is perfectly fine.

#55 | Posted by 726

Ok, I'll bite, 726...

Who, what, where is this neocon movement other than most of Congress and their thousands of lobbyist?

I've been to one of their rallies here, a bunch of nuts is an understatement, a bunch of dangerous nuts would be more accurate.

#7 | Posted by danni

Was it anything like this, Danni?

The tea party is good for Dems for three reasons:
1) It yanks the definition of Republican so far right as to exclude 80-90% of the population.
2) It paints the Republicans as batshit crazy (right or wrong).
3) If we want to know where the crazies are, we just track the tea parties...because they'll show up. Shame we can't do the same thing with terrorists and arrest them all at once.

The Kieth Obermann definition of the tea party is good for Dems for three reasons:
1) It yanks the definition of Republican so far right as to exclude 80-90% of the population.
2) It paints the Republicans as batshit crazy (right or wrong).
3) If we want to know where the crazies are, we just track the tea parties...because they'll show up. Shame we can't do the same thing with terrorists and arrest them all at once.

#72 | Posted by Sycophant

There...

Fixed it for ya!

Pssst! Sycophant. No one is listening to Keith Obermann except crazy Libs! LOL!!!

#72 | Posted by Sycophant

I just don't get it.

How can you repeat a lying "talking point" so many times that it becomes true to you.

Even Danni lies about "going" to a Tea Party event and lying about what she saw.

I mean to ask, do all of you get afraid when you sit down with your doctor, your attorney, your CPA? Are you afraid to go outside when the postman comes? Or the trash man? Do you bring a friend when you visit your auto repairman? Are you also afraid of the flowershop owner? The hotdog salesman?

How long can you keep up this lie. Get out and talk to people and see what they think! Geez!

You have it correct, Ed, they lie at every opportunity. That's the POINT!!!

They can't understand your explanations ... so, in the long term, only scorn can penetrate their cement-for-brains, collective head ... and that's the only indication you'll ever get from them that you are accurate about *anything* ... their "scorn" level goes up and you become their subject for dehumanization ... like the nattering nazi goosesteppers they are ...

Their mantra: Victory Welfare!!!

Hail Obama!!!

Hate to tell the left but many at the tea parties are those independents who helped elect obama. Seems that showed in the Massachusetts election. Please continue to mock and smear them; I'm sure that will attract them back to your side.

TPM Trumpets Racist Rebuffed by Tea Party Groups as 'Prominent' 'Leader'

"The liberal website Talking Points Memo continues to report on a bigoted individual who speciously claims to represent 6 million members of the Tea Party movement as a "leader."

In fact, he doesn't represent anyone but himself.

Readers can only infer from TPM's consistent coverage of one Dale Robertson that the website is attempting to play up the most radical figure it can find who associates with the Tea Party movement. The website referred to Robertson today as a "prominent Tea Party leader" in the first sentence of a story headlined, "'Warning: Tea Party In Danger': Leader Slams Palin As 'Wolf In Sheep's Clothing.'"

But not only doesn't Robertson represent any faction of the movement, he has also been publicly and consistently rebuffed by a number of Tea Party groups who want nothing to do with his message. Even liberal blogs have noted the duplicity in associating him with the Tea Party movement."

While real Tea Party leaders have distanced themselves from Robertson, the media have embraced him and his false claim that he founded the entire Tea Party movement.

Hello Snoofy...

No I don't have a problem with that...

I was not aware that the rate was lower than previous years...

Where did you read that. Because if it's true you are on to something...

Still the plan is way in the hole. Maybe compared to the state deficit one hundred million seems small but it's not.

Oddly enough, The Mass Gov proposed legislation that would provide the state insurance commissioner with the authority to limit health care cost increases...

This is small business getting smarter...

"i>Small business groups have been lobbying for legislation that would allow them to band together to buy insurance, arguing that doing so would increase their clout in bargaining for better prices with insurers.

#78 | Posted by themaniscoming

no... they are not. They are just trying to survive using the rules of the game. But they are just playing right into the insurance companies game plan. We need to change the rules of the Game.

726 is right

(Health) Insurance is a ponzi scheme.

#61

"...but Obama pushed the pedal to the metal in terms of driving an agenda well to the left of what TP'iers envision for America....#4 | Posted by OohRah"

Oh yeah? really? You've been told by your right-wing media whackers that Obama has done this.

PLease proved REAL PROOF that Obama has done this.
Otherwise you prove the article true.

"...change is afoot"

You really think America is going to put back a bunch of tinfoil-wearing bigots into power again?

Sorry. You have a better chance of electing Art Bell.

Interesting that Kay missed the other point:

"The Democrat Party is Dominated by Kooks too"

Seems to me the people who are always yelling "less government" align themselves with religious groups who want to pass more "morality" laws that truly intrude into our personal lives.

teabaggers are extreme at best, wacadoos at least, I have read, listened, seen enough...

But please keep it up so you can scare the rest of us enough to get out and vote against anything and anyone you support!