TICKETED?????

Does that mean lineed up against the wall and shot?

What kind of fool keeps this kind of dog and then allows them to escape?

+ 1

What kind of yard? Was it a residence or business?

BTW, Fontana is a SHITHOLE in the middle the freeking desert.

TICKETED?????

Does that mean...

It means that they will be forced to sell tickets to their public execution by rabid dog mauling.

Why the hell was this woman walking the railroad tracks?

I am going to venture a guess here. They are illegals and my tax dollars are nor paying for their healthcare.

#4 | POSTED BY CHICKENRANCHER

The desert of Inland Empire SPRAWL.

are now.....

The article said the dogs' owner could be cited???

You mean they'll not even sure about giving him a citation? Unbelieveable.

Hope the guy has a good homeowners insurance policy. He's going to need it.

When I lived in SoCal we called Fontana, "Fontucky".

The people who make excuses for this type of mayhem ususally say things like, "they never bite anyone before", or "the kids must have provoked them." If that doesn't work they say, "the dogs will be put to sleep."

I say, "put the owner to sleep too."

We need open season on all dogs.

Hope the guy has a good homeowners insurance policy. He's going to need it.

#9 | Posted by CalifChris

it could be a business........

While I'm sorry for the folks of Fontana, I believe this could have been prevented had not the people of California not surrendered their second amendment right.

The people who make excuses for this type of mayhem ususally say things like, "they never bite anyone before", or "the kids must have provoked them." If that doesn't work they say, "the dogs will be put to sleep."

I say, "put the owner to sleep too."

We need open season on all dogs.

#11 | Posted by fwthom

I would venture to say that this illegal immegrant is walking her kids along the tracks (why the hell is she walking with her kids along the tracks, (nice parenting) not paying attention to what they are doing (shit, look how they act in the grocery store) and her kids were tormenting the dogs. I think the owner should sue her for damages.

"I am going to venture a guess here. They are illegals and my tax dollars are nor paying for their healthcare."

I am going to venture a guess here. Chickenrancher is an insensitive POS. It's only a guess but I think it's probably pretty accurate.

And the "Body Bite" Suit

#16 | Posted by danni

Not at all. I am a POS, but I am not insensitive.

let me guess; they were Beagles, right?

pekinese??

well don't tell me they were pitbulls, cuz I'm not buyin' it.

Believe it or not, a pack of dogs on the loose can get a pack mentality and attack anything that moves.

Yes, even a sweet family pet.

In happened in my rural neighborhood a few years ago. The police finally had to put snipers on rooftops to shoot them.

All of the dogs were nice family pets that the owners turned loose at night so the dogs could get some exercise.

All dog owners in the neighborhood were warned but, to a person, they all said "my dog wouldn't hurt a fly."

Pits are the best breed.

Why the hell was this woman walking the railroad tracks?

I am going to venture a guess here. They are illegals and my tax dollars are nor paying for their healthcare.

That is the way your hole (not whole) philosophy works. Deal with it. You might start with turning in your guns and seeing a shrink.

I think attempted manslaughter us in order on this one

At least he dogs owners were sorry about what happened.

You own a pitbull because your a drugdealing felon and cant own a gun.

And even if they were illegals 2oo+ staples? wow sounds pretty bad.

On life support from dog attack?

Poor kids.

The dogs should be put down already.

While I'm sorry for the folks of Fontana, I believe this could have been prevented had not the people of California not surrendered their second amendment right.

#14 | Posted by wurster at 2010-02-02 09:57 PM

I wonder why the Mother wasn't attacked and only the kids were? If the mother was carrying a gun she may have been able to save her 5 year old daughter from being ripped up by those dogs. Then again, she'd have had to be fairly calm and level headed to be able shoot to kill and not miss. Probably the mother ran for help when her daughter was first pulled away from her by one of the dogs. Not much else she could have done on her own.

Here are California's laws re gun permits, etc.

There are no bad dogs just irresponsible pet owners.

That's it, we have had enough of this! We need to solve the problem by arresting the Blacks, banning Gay marriage and deporting illegal Mexicans.

We got the laws changed in our county last year after two pit bulls broke into a neighbors house and riped their yellow lab apart, inside their house. If a dog attacks a human anywhere, or a domesticated animal on its owners property, the animal is deemed dangerous and can be destroyed. The owner can also be held liable.

To me, this isn't a joking matter. I guess people who grew up hunting look at things differently. You can't have animals that can kill your children running around. Period. I'm not alone in thinking this way. After the aforementioned attack the tensions were high between pitbull owners and other residences in my area. It was fairly clear, that if you owned a pitbull or other large dangerous dog that you had better be able to keep it under control. Because if it got loose it would disappear.

The dogs need to be put down.

Ticketing the owners of the dogs seems too light a punishment considering the serious injuries to the kids here.

Perhaps the police should look into why these owners felt the need to keep 5 vicious dogs in their backyard.

That's usually a pretty good indicator that some kinda illegal activity is taking place inside.

Be Well.

I've been bitten by dogs as a youth and to this day am leery of many of them at first. I think just as with driving while intoxicated (I didn't MEAN to cause that wreck) you have to be responsible for your actions... and these dogs are an extension of you as an owner.

So whatever criminal punishment would have been meted out during a human on human attack ought to be meted out here as well. Civil penalties, too.

It's one thing to keep potentially vicious dogs confined to your private property. It's an entirely different matter when those animals do harm while off your property. While your "intent" wasn't to harm others, your property (the dogs) sure did.

The pit bull is by far the most popular dog here in Hawaii. They are excellent pig hunters. In fact I raise pit bulls for hunters. They are very intelligent dogs, and are only mean if they are trained to be aggressive. It's a myth that they are more dangerous then other breeds. The problem is that people who want dangerous dogs to raise tend to choose pit bulls to abuse (it's the only way to make them mean) because these dogs can lock their jaws on their prey and are very strong for their size. I have two female's and one male and all three are very gentle. Even the cats love them. They preen each other. The problem with pit bulls is not the breed, it's the assholes that raise them. These dogs will have to be killed because once they are trained to kill they can never be trusted again. The people should be in prison for a few years and restricted from ever raising dogs of any breed again.

Ringmaster, I have Pits. It is obvious that you are making this stuff up. Pits can NOT lock thier jaws, that is a myth that people who have never been around them always say. Also, the aggressiveness of them is in thier genes. Not all are agressive but not all are docile either. Please only post when you have a clue what you are talking about. It is people like you that make it harder for the breed. People go and buy one thinking that as long as they are sweet to it then they don't have to worry about it and that just isn't so. They need a strong leader.

Please only post when you have a clue what you are talking about.

You can't get rid of him that easily.

...the aggressiveness of them is in thier genes....They need a strong leader.

They sound a lot like Republicans.

in order of jaw clenching strength: rotties, german shepards, then pits. i've had the pleasure of trying to get a stray pit to release it's jaw. no force, but water/liquid to the face works.

my huskey got out one day in LA and shook the neighbor's dog like a rag doll. that cost a pretty penny to get stitched up.

my pit mix in brooklyn got loose (my friend was holding him), ran up to a stranger a block down and started sniffing and licking his feet. chester got out in my apt building once (gf holding him) and made it down a flight to where two cute pugs were coming out for a walk. they started sniffing each other.

but chester does have a problem with older overweight polish men for some reason....

it's not the breed, it's the owner. and bigcat is correct in that they must not be allowed alpha... ie they need a strong owner.

once well trained, they are the most loyal, loving and cute breed out there. and i've had the pleasure of owning many different breeds.

btw, he's a purple nose pit... and i call him a terrier to un-informed people. and he lets/watches his yorki friend eat his food when she makes it to the bowl first.

I hunt, but I don't hunt with dogs. Pits and similar dogs weren't meant to be around children. My county is looking a ban on them like the city of Charlot NC. Once you've seen an animal that can defend it's self literally ripped to pieces and spread over a 12 x 12 room, you look at things differently.

stirsumup, that is the most ignorant thing i've ever heard of. when I eventually make a drive cross country, i'm going to have to plot out a course circumventing your pos towns because of dumbass people like yourselves that ban a dog based on its breed. denver is the same.

you know, a lot of the puerto rican kids in my neighborhood have violent tendencies it seems. maybe all puerto ricans should be banned from brooklyn.

u dumbass.

most of these town banns come with clauses where if an officer pulls you over and your dog RESEMBLES a pit, then it is taken and killed.

banning a dog breed simply because your ignorance is on the same level as the owners of various breeds that don't train their dogs well doesn't make sense.

however i would be in favor of some kind of licensing program for any owner that wishes to have a dog greater than 20 lbs. why based on weight and not breed? because i'm not an ignorant 'breedist' like yourself.

yes, a new term i made up because it's so applicable.

really though, it's cyclical with idiots like you.

my pit is incredibly loyal and protective - a vagabond tried to harass my gf when she was walking him... not a good idea (he was literally pushed away, not eaten). and gangsters now leave us alone...

because of his nature, he's able to smell your fear. so when idiots like yourselves start to shit their pants because of a dog's outward appearance (breed, not demeanor), your bias is affirmed.

I'm real glad you think so much of your dog. Hopefully you'll keep it under control. If it ever gets loose, hopefully you don't have a neighbor like me.

well, unfortunately, ignorance and bias is prevalent everywhere.

You can't have animals that can kill your children running around. Period. I'm not alone in thinking this way

-stirsumup

think about your logic for a second and apply it analogously.

-people are animals that can kill your children.

-statistically: black people have a higher murder rate than others.

-your conclusion: your kids should never be around black people and black people should be banned from your town.

is your mind opening up a bit yet???

Is it ignorant to expect people to keep dangerous animals under control? Or is it ignorant to expect others to put up with it.

Ringmaster, I have Pits. It is obvious that you are making this stuff up. Pits can NOT lock thier jaws, that is a myth that people who have never been around them always say.

All I can say is you don't know what you are talking about. Obviously you have never hunted with pit bulls and had to get a stick to pry their mouths off the pigs ass. I have dozens of times.

As for Goaty, stupid snarky remarks is that old woman's forte. She is pissed because she can't get me to join her chat room.

We need open season on all dogs.

#11 | Posted by fwthom

All dogs running free should be shot!!!

semantics, lock jaw/clenching strengh are one in the same. I think technically they don't have 'lock jaw' but as you pointed out and I've experienced, their jaws seem pretty damn locked. Ringmaster, try a splash of water to the face, that usually stirs them up and gets them to let go.

at least it did the one time I had the pleasure of getting a stray pit to let go of another dog.

Is it ignorant to expect people to keep dangerous animals under control? Or is it ignorant to expect others to put up with it.

#45 | Posted by STIRSUMUP

clearly you aren't following.

Of course people should keep their animals under control, hence why I proposed needed a license to have a dog > than 20 lbs. And in this case, then those dogs shouldn't be with that owner.

I don't put up with little puerto rican gangsters by advocating that all puerto ricans be banned from brooklyn. Instead I advocate for heavier law enforcement in my area.

Can you tell the difference???

Stirstumup, the only part where we really disagree is the outright ban. that and the fact that you think it all comes down to a specific breed.

look, many germans thought jews were causing economic troubles in early 1940's germany, but that isn't a good enough reason to go ahead and kill them all.

your bias and conclusion fits that analogy pretty well.

Ringmaster, try a splash of water to the face, that usually stirs them up and gets them to let go.
at least it did the one time I had the pleasure of getting a stray pit to let go of another dog.

#48 | Posted by Yodar013

Where did you get the water? Did you piss on him? Most of us normal people don't carry a bottle of water to throw on attack dogs.

Look,...I tired of discussing this with you. We're not talking about blacks or Jews. We're talking about dogs. And, to go ahead and get it out of the way, the answer is yes, if your precious dog came in my yard I'd kill it and bury it in the six acre cemetery in front of my house.... Are we done?

When did I ask? you are trying to get me angry with you, but instead I just feel sorry for you.

And no we are not talking about 'blacks' or jews, but it is and was people like you that think/thought about 'blacks' and jews as dogs.

It's the same origin: ignorance and bias based on an ethnicity, religion.... or common physical makeup of an animal.

will your mind ever open up? even a crack?

I think what bigcat is trying to say is pits don't have locking jaws in the literal sense. It's a term used by the hunters here, because they have the strongest jaws in the domesticated canine world and they can be very stubborn. They definitely do lock onto their prey. I have hunted pigs in Hawaii for thirty plus years now and I have raised pit bulls for over ten years now. BTW, they have to be trained to hunt and it takes a long time to get a good grabber. None of my dogs are hunters and are a gentle as labs. We use a hound/mix to track.

Where did you get the water? Did you piss on him? Most of us normal people don't carry a bottle of water to throw on attack dogs.

#51 | Posted by Sniper

lol, it was in the dog park, and the dog attacked another dog. water bowls are pretty common in dog parks.

us two men had the bright idea of trying to beat the shit out of the dog to get it to let go. my foot hurt bad.

then one of the women had the smart idea of using water. funny how our first instinct is not always right, especially for guys when it's violence.

"then one of the women had the smart idea of using water."

She waterboarded the dog?

Right sal, throw her law-breaking ass in jail. Where is that damn AG when you need him?

Throw water at them? LOL!

It's a whole different story when you have three or four pits on a 300 lb boar. Throwing your canteen at them ain't gonna do shit. Besides, on this Island there ain't no streams or ponds. It's all porous lava rock. Now, maybe hot lava...hmmmmmmm.

i've never had to but if you really need to get their attention, apparently grabbing them by the balls (or where they balls used to be) or two fingers underneath their jaw, just under the ear. thats a pressure point going directly to the brain.

If you are in fact a dog "trainer" as claimed, I'd think having your "trained" dog respond to an order would be a priority. I've seen plenty of hunting dogs. Sight hunters, trackers, retrievers, none were so ignorant as to openly defy their master. To do so makes them a useless, dangerous, and extremely unhappy, confused pack animal.

Dogs must be made to submit, that is the entire point of "training". Requiring yourself to beat a dog that is in full-on attack mode to get him to obey a simple command will at some point (and probably already has been) a painful lesson learned.

p.s. Ancient Chinese Proverb:
He who shoots neighbor's dog on sight may find his fucking house burned down by neighbor.

Dogs must be made to submit, that is the entire point of "training".

Yes.

Dogs are pack animals and can be quite happy assuming the role of "omega".

Dogs need to be put in their place early and often. When that happens they have a tremendous relationship with their human superiors - all sides are happy.

As for Goaty, stupid snarky remarks is that old woman's forte. She is pissed because she can't get me to join her chat room.

Chat room, ringo? She wants you to join her in the bedroom, you big Hawaiian hunk, you.

xxxooo

goatie

#42 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2010-02-03 11:51 AM
***"Hopefully you'll keep it under control. If it ever gets loose, hopefully you don't have a neighbor like me"

Hopefully you don't have a dog owner like me as a neighbor...

Hopefully you don't have a dog owner like me as a neighbor...

#63 | Posted by Capt_Of_Uranus

Turn them loose on me and you'll be the proud owner of dead dogs.

#64 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-02-03 04:39 PM
***"Turn them loose on me and you'll be the proud owner of dead dogs."

Well, that's sort of the point Sniper; if I turned my dogs loose on you they'd sniff and lick you; my Pit is probably the sweetest dog you could imagine...

And, if you felt the need, at that point, to kill my dogs, you'd be the proud owner of a shiny new coffin, (or wish to your God that you were)...

Just because I lean liberal doesn't mean I'm unarmed, or that I can't index shoot with the best of them...

Tripple tap...

i've never had to but if you really need to get their attention, apparently grabbing them by the balls (or where they balls used to be) or two fingers underneath their jaw, just under the ear. thats a pressure point going directly to the brain.

If you ever saws my male pit, you wouldn't even try grabbing him by the balls or the throat. He's friendly enough, but he has his limits. He's also about 60 or 70 lbs and built like Mike Tyson, with a temperament to boot. Actually he is a volunteer that nobody really owns. He just hangs around to eat and screw, but he does love his pups and comes around between lays to check on them. I would have shot him myself but he likes me an my wife and he's a magnificent animal. I suspect his days are numbered though, there is no way he can be caged and he screws any bitch in heat for miles around, but he sure sires nice pups.

All breeds are man-made some for a single purpose.Pit bulls were designed to fight-bite-protect,just look how they are built..there is no question when seen that you don't fuck with them.I hate the breed and what they stand for and it's always pits when I hear of a mauling.When I start hearing stories of labs or retrievers mauling for a year or two maybe I'll change my mind...Not likely.. Sadly all breeds are mistreated so why are pits the most likely to maul than most other breeds?

Hopefully you don't have a dog owner like me as a neighbor...
#63 | Posted by Capt_Of_Uranus
Turn them loose on me and you'll be the proud owner of dead dogs.

#64 | POSTED BY SNIPER

or me..shoot my dog and see god quickly.

All breeds are man-made some for a single purpose.Pit bulls were designed to fight-bite-protect,just look how they are built..there is no question when seen that you don't fuck with them.I hate the breed and what they stand for and it's always pits when I hear of a mauling.When I start hearing stories of labs or retrievers mauling for a year or two maybe I'll change my mind...Not likely.. Sadly all breeds are mistreated so why are pits the most likely to maul than most other breeds?

#67 | POSTED BY BLAKE914

pits can't take Anatolians..We had a pit pick a fight in our yard with my Anatolian and it grabbed it, shook it like a rag doll and broke its neck. no more hostile alpha pitbull. Sweetest dog in the world unless you show your ass to me my wife or son..

or me..shoot my dog and see god quickly.

#68 | Posted by Legio

Dude, if a dog attacks me or mine, I will shoot it and then promptly kick the owners ass up and down the street.

I hate this kind of irresponsibility with a passion! A PASSION!!!

Dude, if a dog attacks me or mine, I will shoot it and then promptly kick the owners ass up and down the street.
I hate this kind of irresponsibility with a passion! A PASSION!!!

#70 | POSTED BY EDDIE

I have a 1894 SS .44 mag thats states otherwise.

cap, turn them loose on me implies an attack by them. It doesn't imply that they are going to lick me all week. Please use some sense when you make a statement.

I have a 1894 SS .44 mag thats states otherwise.

#71 | Posted by Legio

LOL!!!

You can't be serious!

If you were irresponsible enough to allow a dog under your care harm me or mine, you would need a nuclear weapon!! A small hand gun would never protect you.

I really don't understand the sheer stupiditiy of dog owners thinking they have rights.

First you threaten me with a dog and then a gun. Why would you do that? Are you a gang member? An anarchist?

However, my promise stands.

Another question to you, Now that you know that you are vulnerable to that treatment (synonymous to being tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail) why would continue your behavior?

#74 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

FF

#72 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-02-04 10:20 AM
***"cap, turn them loose on me implies an attack by them. It doesn't imply that they are going to lick me all week. Please use some sense when you make a statement"

I see your point, however my statement was in reference to:

#42 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2010-02-03 11:51 AM
***"I'm real glad you think so much of your dog. Hopefully you'll keep it under control. If it ever gets loose, hopefully you don't have a neighbor like me"

Which implied killing someone's animal for just getting loose...

When posting sometimes it is a good thing to read what the post is regarding, as-well-as the post itself to avoid confusion...

And, since I always include the referenced post at the top of my retort, this should be fairly easy...

Sorry for the misunderstanding...

What....nobody's going to type the lyrics to 'Who Let The Dogs Out'?