I'm sure the conservatives on the DR will find a way to turn this into bad news for the country. Let's see.

It's only 87,000

- The right.

I'm sure the conservatives on the DR will find a way to turn this into bad news for the country. Let's see.

#1 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

I don't see how this is bad news. There you go being negative again Bob.

This is good news!

These jobs were all due to The Stimulus(snicker!).

--The "Progressives"

I'm sure the conservatives on the DR will find a way to turn this into bad news for the country. Let's see.

#1 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Not only is it bad for the country, but for Mouther Earth. Everyone knows that when the ecomomy picks up, pollution and global warming go up. These few monts of economic downturn have been a blessing from an environmental standpoint, far from being depressed, Mother Earth is happy to breath the cleaner air of the economic downturn. But now thanks to Obama Mother Earth will be polluted and overheadted. You Liberals should be ahamed. GWB worked so hard to try to save the plante by destorying the economic and you guys bring the economy back to life and destroy the planet!

This is good news, I don't know why you would be so quick to think Republicans would be against it. Root for the country regardless of the party in power is how the majority of voters operate (I would hope).

These jobs were all due to The Stimulus(snicker!).

--The "Progressives"

#5 | Posted by cookfish at 2010-01-31 04:40 PM

Mmmphhh mmummph.

The Teabaggers.

Yes. I see headlines like this too, and wonder just what these companies are doing to fill the jobs? All they have to do is post the openings on Craigslist, and they'll have a stack of resumes 20 feet high by lunchtime. Are they waiting to hire from within? Is it one of those situations where they advertise job openings, to keep existing employees from asking for raises?

Seriously, if your job were Human Resources director, and you had to fill 500 jobs, how long do you think it would take to find 500 people willing and able to fill them?

Are these actual "NEW JOB" creations/additions, or just filling positions vacated by current employees who will be retiring/transfering/quitting, fired, whatever?

CHICKENRANCHER

Insourcing has taken a lot of good jobs away from Americans. In NYC's Financial District there are thousands of Indian and Chinese Wall Street hired to replace 'laid off' (fired) Americans.

That's just one teeny bit of it. Another example, Microsoft, say they can't find Americans to do IT work. Baloney. There are a bazillion Americans who can, but they don't want to pay the salaries, so they cynically use H-!B programs to fill vacancies.

That's just wrong.

Are these actual "NEW JOB" creations/additions, or just filling positions vacated by current employees who will be retiring/transfering/quitting, fired, whatever?
#10 | Posted by chickenrancher at 2010-01-31 11:51 PM

Excellent questions. I would bet it's something akin to retirees taking what's left of their assets and moving abroad.

If I had to money I would seriously consider Canada - friendly, progressive and hiring. But, since I have an idiot streak down my middle I would prolly live in French-speaking part of Quebec.

All they have to do is post the openings on Craigslist, and they'll have a stack of resumes 20 feet high by lunchtime . . .

Seriously, if your job were Human Resources director, and you had to fill 500 jobs, how long do you think it would take to find 500 people willing and able to fill them?

#9 | Posted by rightisright

it will take some effort to fill 'em

To the Board of Directors: "We need to find more things to write off this year. Congress intends to tax us if our profits appear to high."

HR: "Let's just post job openings. We get to write off the advertisements and don't even have to hire anyone to take the deduction."

"Next issue..."

I have heard stories where they advertise just to comply with company guidelines. There was never any intention of hiring just an inside promotion. At my company we use temps all the time instead of hiring new people.

Did GM make the list?

Same here. Advertise. Make it look like you are actually doing something. Then state that, due to budgetary issues, the posted opening had to be withdrawn.

Expense noted on ledger.

Face it, this is a good time to troll for talent at good prices.

87,000 news jobs?! That's great! Oh, they're not "new" jobs, but jobs that are constantly there? That's good too. Must be Bush's fault. Every day Monster and other jobs sites list tens of thousands of jobs. They have throughout the downturn. Just because someone decides to count up a few companies doesn't mean that there are suddenly new jobs springing up. But of course you all knew that. What's more telling is the 615,000 people who, in December, simply stopped looking for work. The only thing keeping the unemployment rate below 15% is the fact of those people that quit looking.

So why can't these job openings be filled? Because most Americans are too lazy or too stupid to fill them. I see that some of the jobs are at technical firms, so we'd better import some foreigners to fill them.

"Insourcing has taken a lot of good jobs away from Americans. In NYC's Financial District there are thousands of Indian and Chinese Wall Street hired to replace 'laid off' (fired) Americans.

That's just one teeny bit of it. Another example, Microsoft, say they can't find Americans to do IT work. Baloney. There are a bazillion Americans who can, but they don't want to pay the salaries, so they cynically use H-!B programs to fill vacancies.

That's just wrong.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Absolute bullshit. Software companies desperately want good ENGINEERs. Who gives a fuck about some loser who knows java script? They are the IT ditch digger equivalent. You need a compsci degree. Being able to code is a pre-req like being able to write. They want people who can design software.

The indian companies do mostly maintenance and support, shit that no companies want to do themselves since it is commodity work and has no added value.

IT shops do NOT want to custom code they want to buy packages. The only people they really hire are managers, PMs, BAs, DBAs, tech specialists and architects.

IBM, Accenture, etc are hiring but you need to be young, have a degree and a personality. Or serious experience.

So if you want a job in IT in the US be shit hot, learn a package like SAP or move up the value chain.

My last IT job was with a major US firm. I was in as a contractor Oracle DBA and Unix Sysadmin. I worked alongside of two in-house DBA's who were on H1B visas. They were paid less than a third of what I was being billed at because they could not go to another employer since they would lose their H1B status. At the end of my contract period the foreign H1B guys kept their job and I did not get renewed.

Can you spell 'indentured servitude'? Of course these companies would much prefer to use H1B workers instead of pay the going rate for Americans.

"Can you spell 'indentured servitude'? Of course these companies would much prefer to use H1B workers instead of pay the going rate for Americans.

#22 | Posted by axe"

Were you doing simple maintenance reorgs, cleanups, appending tables spaces or actually designing databases and performance tuning? Database designers are in high demand.

I knew many people on H1Bs they were paid less than top rates 70-80% but nothing like one third of it. You get a premium for being a native.

It is the internal transfers which companies really profit off of but are never mentioned in the news. But most injun companies try to keep their onshore presence down as they make less profit that way.

"Can you spell 'indentured servitude'? Of course these companies would much prefer to use H1B workers instead of pay the going rate for Americans.
#22 | Posted by axe"

Were you doing simple maintenance reorgs, cleanups, appending tables spaces or actually designing databases and performance tuning? Database designers are in high demand.
I knew many people on H1Bs they were paid less than top rates 70-80% but nothing like one third of it. You get a premium for being a native.
It is the internal transfers which companies really profit off of but are never mentioned in the news. But most injun companies try to keep their onshore presence down as they make less profit that way.
#23 | Posted by furio at 2010-02-01 04:10 PM

I also know people who rely on H1B and are basically kept for cost just as axe stated. That is reality, statistical analyzers to core coding - they are the preferred hire, even if their English skills suck ass and they don't have a family to feed. We're being outsourced from within, for chrissakes.

Any hiring is good no question about it. BUT some economists are predicting the overall rate is headed towards 11%....like Goldman Sachs' economists....

Which means more will be laid off the hired. Just looking at some corp's employee needs without looking at the total is junk statistics.

Want a junk stat???

Cristine Rhomer predicts yr end 2011 employment will be 8.9%!!!!

I hope she's right, we will see.....

Can you spell 'indentured servitude'? Of course these companies would much prefer to use H1B workers instead of pay the going rate for Americans.

#22 | Posted by axe

get used to it, dude
Obama's plan has always been to bring OUR USA standard of living DOWN

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... We look for an affable personality to meet and greet our clients...

Financial office manager? Or Wal-Mart greeter?

They're Hiring!! 87,000 jobs

Well, that beats the 150,000 jobs lost every week we were used to hearing about for so long.

Happy days are here again? We'll see. Keep your fingers crossed.

11,000 last November and 85,000 jobs lost last December sure beats the 533.000 Nov. 2008 and 700,000 in December 2008. This is gonna take awhile to turn around yet ...