Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, February 01, 2010

Haitian police have detained 10 US nationals for trying to bus 33 children across the border into the Dominican Republic. Yves Christallin, the Haitian social affairs minister, said on Sunday that police arrested five men and five women with US passports, along with two Haitians, as they tried to cross the border on Friday night. "This is an abduction, not an adoption," Christallin said. He said the US citizens did not have the proper documents from the government to take the children out of Haiti, nor letters of authorisation from their parents.The Americans were identified by Christallin as members of an Idaho-based charity called New Life Children's Refuge. He said two pastors were also involved, one in Haiti and one in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Damned fundy freaks! Stealing little children...there oughta be a law....

Their heart is in the right place but they need to follow proper channels.

You just can't take children like that.

Black rights activist T. West of AfriSynergy Productions warns that people need to be aware of the tragedy in Haiti being exploited by nefarious groups for their own gain, including Israel, who have admittedly stolen organs from dead Palestinians in the past.

West highlighted a CNN news clip as evidence of how the media is promoting the Israeli relief efforts in Haiti as second to none. Though praising the Israelis for their support for the victims and outstanding medical facilities, West warned that there were "personalities who are out for money" operating in Haiti with no monitoring of their activities.

"It is good that the IDF and others are helping there, but everywhere there is death, there are exploiters. There needs to be transparency in Haiti," West told YNet News in an interview.

"The Haitian people must watch out for their citizens," said West, highlighting past cases of IDF stealing organs from Palestinians.

Last month, the London Guardian reported on the admission of Dr Yehuda Hiss, the former head of Israel's forensic institute, who stated that the organs of Palestinians were harvested without consent from family members. This followed a controversy after a Swedish newspaper reported that Palestinians were deliberately being abducted and killed by Israeli Defense Forces so their organs could be harvested and sold.
www.infowars.com

Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs, PM says By Tom Evans, CNN
January 27, 2010 10:21 p.m. EST
us.cnn.com

"there oughta be a law...."

Evidently there is...in Haiti...and it sounds as if they broke it.

www.esbctwinfalls.com

Who do they think they are? Madonna? Angelina?

Pic of fat assed child thieves in today's paper.

img695.imageshack.us

How much for the girl on the lower right? heh heh

Orphanage my ass. I bet they planned on selling the kids. Maybe even for organs as Jeff suggests. Never trust a christian.

www.drudge.com

Answer to the question: Yes.
Will those in charge allow an alternate solution to their Katrina? No.

Awful people for what they did! They probably bomb abortion clinics, and drag homosexuals behind car bumpers too! You know how those Christians are!


Their heart is in the right place but they need to follow proper channels.

You just can't take children like that.

#2 | Posted by Lisa

You're right, but in a chaos like this, most of the traditional communication is gone and you have to rely on he-said, she-said to save children.

This is the same kind of crap that challenged the first responders in Louisiana during Katrina. It was a nightmare.


Orphanage my ass. I bet they planned on selling the kids. Maybe even for organs as Jeff suggests. Never trust a christian.

#10 | Posted by jackass

LOL! Jackass being a troll? No, he really believes this. Mostly because this is a christain group.

Jackass, you have to trade your soul for your line of thinking!

When these kids were finally questioned they not only supplied names of relatives, but also addresses! These kids were Stolen; this group went there with the Intent to Steal Kids! Its Plain and Simple, its Black and White and its Pure Evil.

But what's really going to be entertaining for us is when the "Beat Your Kids" Focus on the Family Gang shows up insisting that these people and their lame excuse of "we didn't know" or "we found them on the street" is totally plausible and not something they said had said in the past you should beat your kids for doing (offering unbelievable excuses).


Pic of fat assed child thieves in today's paper.

img695.imageshack.us

#8 | Posted by Tosser

LOL. What a mistake! The authorities holding these people have got to be embarrassed for all the press they're getting.

However, I agree with Lisa that there has to be checks along the way.

But, how unfortunate this is for kids needing help in the future. Do you think that well-meaning people like this will risk their lives and their freedom to deal with corrupt, retarded governments such as in Haiti?

What if this happens in Iran? Lots of earthquakes there.


When these kids were finally questioned they not only supplied names of relatives, but also addresses! These kids were Stolen; this group went there with the Intent to Steal Kids! Its Plain and Simple, its Black and White and its Pure Evil.

But what's really going to be entertaining for us is when the "Beat Your Kids" Focus on the Family Gang shows up insisting that these people and their lame excuse of "we didn't know" or "we found them on the street" is totally plausible and not something they said had said in the past you should beat your kids for doing (offering unbelievable excuses).

#15 | Posted by Redneckville

This post speaks for itself.....

Keep the ignorance flowing Redneck. You always do.


"there oughta be a law...."

Evidently there is...in Haiti...and it sounds as if they broke it.

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Tragic! People are dying.

What is wrong with the Libs today? They've are trading their souls in order to ridicule good christains?

I'm convinced, now, that Libs have no soul.

Rush and Cheney have asked for their deposits back.

So true EDDIE #18. If these kids had been machine gunned by Muslims, we'd be hearing about abortion clinic bombers in the US. You know, the millions of abortion clinic bombings that are happening every day?

"However, I agree with Lisa that there has to be checks along the way"

YEAH!

Check Number One should Consist of the Question "Do You Have any Relatives", Followed Up by "Do you Have their Address"?

I know, it sounds totally Crazy!?

And thinking that the failure to ask these simple and intuitive questions is an indication of Motive is Totally Out of Line!

For Example, you find a lost child in the grocery store, do you?
A) Ask their Name?
B) Ask them for their address?
C) None of the above, you simply Throw them in the Car and take them thousands of miles away (finder's-keepers)?


So true EDDIE #18. If these kids had been machine gunned by Muslims, we'd be hearing about abortion clinic bombers in the US. You know, the millions of abortion clinic bombings that are happening every day?

#20 | Posted by Sabbatai

something like... The price of rice in China?

you want to try again?

They've are trading their souls in order to ridicule good christains?

I think childnapping is beyond simple ridicule, Eddie.

These fools are as dumb as the Christians sitting in Kuwait in 2003 waiting to go into Iraq and "save" the muslims and probably "rescue" the children as well.

For Example, you find a lost child in the grocery store, do you?
A) Ask their Name?
B) Ask them for their address?
C) None of the above, you simply Throw them in the Car and take them thousands of miles away (finder's-keepers)?

in a grocery store inside a city inside an impoverished nation 100% devastated with over 100,000 dead and counting?

nice example douchebag.

where does it say they provided names and addresses?

I'm not judging anybody yet. They shouldn't have done this without papers, agreed.

But they were either stealing or they weren't.

C) None of the above, you simply Throw them in the Car and take them thousands of miles away (finder's-keepers)?

#21 | Posted by Redneckville

Prove to me, Jackass2, that this is true. Show me a link!

WHAT PART OF:

"Their plan was to take around 100 children by bus to a rented hotel at a beach resort in the Dominican Republic, where they planned to establish an orphanage."

DO YOU NOT GET, Redneck (Jackass2)?

You realy, really need to pick your battles! You'd sell your soul to try and prove that christains are bad people.

I think childnapping is beyond simple ridicule, Eddie.

These fools are as dumb as the Christians sitting in Kuwait in 2003 waiting to go into Iraq and "save" the muslims and probably "rescue" the children as well.

#23 | Posted by northguy3

Really? Another idiot? God! You Libs are coming out in force and showing your bad side today!

Geez!

See my last post, you dumbshit! PICK YOUR BATTLES!!

I'm not judging anybody yet. They shouldn't have done this without papers, agreed.

But they were either stealing or they weren't.

#24 | Posted by eberly

It's another example of do you leave the old folks there to drown (in a case in Katrina), or do you say that it's the responsibility of the provider or the next of kin?

No, you risk being sued and you get those old folks to higher ground.

Actually I was agreeing with you EDDIE. Guess my point was too hyperbolic. :)

"Their plan was to take around 100 children by bus to a rented hotel at a beach resort in the Dominican Republic, where they planned to establish an orphanage."

So they had to take them all the way across the island, across near impassable roads, to another country before asking for the names and addresses of their relatives?

Yup, that makes Even More Sense!? Sounds like they wet straight for option C!

This is why the WingDings Cling to their Bibles.

Willfull Ignorance is their Safe Zone. It's their "Base"!

Nothing gets you out of trouble faster than pretending to be Retarded.
Just Look at Bush's Tenure in Office for a living Example of this Philosophy in action (in addition to the above litany of Lame Excuses)

Where are you going to get papers after an earthquake.
You will be judged for your comments as if you actually did the dead.
I see there are a lot of pagans here who hate christians and would kill them.
Don't worry, you won't be able to.

#27

Add to that I have never been to Haiti in the best of circumstances much less in the environment that exists now.

I have no basis to judge considering I don't know what it is like and how many children are wondering around that relatives can't be accounted for etc..

Keep in mind that there were probably a lot of children with no supervision and no adults BEFORE the earthquake (I am assuming this because Haiti has been considered to be the most impoverished nation in the Western Hemisphere)

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Matthew 12:37

That is Gospel.

This is why the WingDings Cling to their Bibles.

they way you use a situation like this when you don't know shit about what happened is futher proof that you have been fucked in the ass by more preachers than you can count.

You are one hateful bastard REDASS (I prefer a hybrid name rather than jackass2)

Again, if they are stealing then they deserve what is coming to them.

Nothing gets you out of trouble faster than pretending to be Retarded.

that is good news for you REDASS.

We KNOW you are't "pretending".

"PICK YOUR BATTLES"

Heavy traffic making 200-mile Santo Domingo-Port-au-Prince drive take up to 18 hours This hinders post-earthquake aid distribution from the Dominican Republic to Haiti

So for eighteen hours not one of these people thought to ask any of these children

A) What's your Name
B) Do you Have Relatives
C) What's their address

Yup, these children were being Stolen. You can't excuse away the failure to ask these simple and intuitive questions.
No one in their right mind can come to any other conclusion. You don't just pick kids up and truck them 18 yours over dangerous and congested roads without first trying to determine if they have a home to go to --- unless of course you don't care that they have relatives or family (i.e. stealing them)!

Nothing gets you out of trouble faster than pretending to be Retarded.

#29 | Posted by Redneckville

LOL! Whatever works for you dude.

Really, redneck, you really need to pick your battles.

There are so many children who are being flown and driven out of the country so that they can get to a place without the violence of chaos.

You see, your problem here, is, that you are not there. You really don't see what's happening there right now, do you? You can't see the chaos and the danger to children that comes from that.

Across the island... what does that mean? Is it anything like taking people from New Orleans to Houston? I can remember that that was a solution to help 1000's of people after Katrina.

Redneck, to avoid ridicule, you should think and not simply react because your mentor Keith Obermann tells you to do so.

LOL!!!!

Yup, these children were being Stolen. You can't excuse away the failure to ask these simple and intuitive questions.

#35 | Posted by Redneckville

I have no response to this. You can't continue to fight a drunk who you keep knocking down and they continue to get up and fight just to be knocked down again. Avoidance is the best thing....

Redneck is the poster child for why Obama was elected!

Oh, and that no one knew who he was before he became President.

We know him now!

I'm not faulting Obama, I like him personally. I don't like his left-leaning politics, but that's just me. I fault the majority of Americans for buying it.

No, you risk being sued and you get those old folks to higher ground.

Do you have to take them out of the country, Eddie? You do know Houston is in the same country as New Orleans, don't you Eddie? There are places being set up outside Port au Prince all over the place right now.
Or are you just stuck with the knee-jerk reaction of having to protect every Xian fuck-up going on to convince yourself the guy in the sky loves you?

Cocosamville and that broad Eddie are both fucking retards.

Or are you just stuck with the knee-jerk reaction of having to protect every Xian fuck-up going on to convince yourself the guy in the sky loves you?

He could just stick with the knee-jerk reaction of having to use this as a platform to attack Christians to convince yourself there is no guy in the sky?

Good God, the irony is just dripping!!!!

for you, eb.

AP Many of the 33 children a group of American Baptists tried to take out of Haiti without the proper documentation aren't orphans at all, and officials at an orphanage where the children were taken after the Americans were arrested are trying to reunite them with their families.

Oops!

It's amazing how these "christian" people couldn't reunite these kids with their families --- but others magically can.

Here is more:

Fox News has a creepily sympathetic article about this group, which repeatedly mentions how parents "want" to give up their kids to white Americans, so really, these Baptists who rounded up these non-orphan kids and put them on a bus with little explanation weren't doing anything so wrong.

From the article:

The church group's own mission statement said it planned to spend only hours in the devastated capital, quickly identifying children without immediate families and busing them to a rented hotel in the Dominican Republic without bothering to get permission from the Haitian government.

"In this chaos the government is in right now, we were just trying to do the right thing," the group's spokeswoman, Laura Silsby, told the AP at Haiti's judicial police headquarters, where she and others were taken after their arrest Friday night trying to cross the border into the Dominican Republic in a bus.

Silsby, 40, admitted she had not obtained the proper Haitian documents for the children, whose names were written on pink tape on their shirts.

Yes, she only had the children's best interests in mind

The children, ages 2 months to 12 years old, were taken to an orphanage run by Austrian-based SOS Children's Villages, where spokesman George Willeit said they arrived "very hungry, very thirsty."

A 2- to 3-month old baby was dehydrated and had to be hospitalized, he said. An orphanage worker held and caressed another, older baby, who was feverish and looked disoriented.

"One (8-year-old) girl was crying, and saying, I am not an orphan. I still have my parents.' And she thought she was going on a summer camp or a boarding school or something like that," Willeit said.

Or are you just stuck with the knee-jerk reaction of having to protect every Xian fuck-up going on to convince yourself the guy in the sky loves you?

#39 | Posted by northguy3 at 2010-02-01 02:56 PM

Not much different than the knee-jerk reaction of having to use every Xian fuck-up as an excuse to bust out the broad brush and start painting them all in the same light. Same shit, different asshole.

That said, I'm glad these fuckers were caught, though surprised they were in a country so chaotic.

Northguy, Redneck,

We'll know the truth today....

#42

Fair enough Redneck. Do you have a link? I'll say right now that it doesn't appear very good.

But I'll keep in mind that I am not there and can't appreciate the cirsumstances.

A 2- to 3-month old baby was dehydrated and had to be hospitalized, he said. An orphanage worker held and caressed another, older baby, who was feverish and looked disoriented.

#42 | Posted by Redneckville

Makes me wonder why they didn't just leave them there to die and avoid the ridicule of dumbasses like you!

Give it up, Redneck. Pick you battles.

Maybe you could pick one that you could actually win?

You do know Houston is in the same country as New Orleans, don't you Eddie?

#39 | Posted by northguy3

LOL!!

haiti to Dom. Repub - ~70 miles
New Orleans to Houston - > 500 miles!!!

Too funny!

Northguy, are you being serious or are you just pulling my leg?

Eddie is just pissed because Flush Rimjob and he had already booked a flight down to DR to go 'comfort' some of those little children.

Too bad those thumper fuckups can't tell the difference between little brown boys (Flush's favorite) and little black boys.

Oops, NOLA to Houston 442 miles.

"Makes me wonder why they didn't just leave them there to die and avoid the ridicule of dumbasses like you!"

Yup, this surley want a result of 18 hours on a bus.

#48 | Posted by axe

You're a sore loser and you're not even in the fight! Geez! Better for them to think you're fool then to open your mouth....

Eddie, how did you get your head so far up your fucking ass? Is it a congenital defect, or did you fall on it at a funny angle? There is absolutely no credible defense these people could possibly mount. They are religious fanatics who set about paving the road to hell with their good intentions.

These motherfuckers knew that some of the children they were transporting had living family members. They were given their names and addresses, but still took the children against their will.

The fact that Eddie or any other dumbass on this site would even try to defend this group's actions only serves to further illustrate their utter lack of credibility.

What if this happened in Iran

Hmm... first, you would not see much in the way of official American aid. There are a lot of Iranians and Americans of Iranian descent here, though. As in millions. If a disaster on par with the Haiti quake happened in Iran, there would be a lot of people (and not just Iranians) willing to make the trip, but neither the US or the Iranian government would be too keen on anything official. It's what happens when your government is run by religious douches and political hacks.

The fundies would probably have sense enough to stay the fuck away. That's a good thing. As we've seen with their solar powered bibles and child abductions, they're more trouble than they're worth. Nevermind the fact that fundies don't play nicely with other religions.

These motherfuckers knew that some of the children they were transporting had living family members. They were given their names and addresses, but still took the children against their will.

I have been looking for that link since redneck hasn't post it yet.

I have found this but it doesn't say that names and addresses were given.

news.yahoo.com


Eddie, how did you get your head so far up your fucking ass? Is it a congenital defect, or did you fall on it at a funny angle? There is absolutely no credible defense these people could possibly mount. They are religious fanatics who set about paving the road to hell with their good intentions.

These motherfuckers knew that some of the children they were transporting had living family members. They were given their names and addresses, but still took the children against their will.

#52 | Posted by ZombieHunter

LOL! What gets me is that you and the other idiots never miss a perfect opportunity to attack the do-gooders.

I am not protecting them as much as I am expressing my complete disgust for you and the other morons.

You, Redneck, and Northguy are condemning these people as kidnappers.

If their intension was to wisk them away into quick adoptions, then I'm with you, but there is no evidence of that.

All of the evidence points to them setting up a safe haven in a neighboring State/Country, similar to what happened after Katrina where an orphanage is being built. They rented out a hotel for six months while waiting for the orphanage to be built.

Doesn't sound like any quick adoption to me...

I have been looking for that link since redneck hasn't post it yet.

This mentions it. I also heard the same thing on a CNN interview, as well. Complete with traumatized kid on camera.

The fact that Eddie or any other dumbass on this site would even try to defend this group's actions only serves to further illustrate their utter lack of credibility.

#52 | Posted by ZombieHunter

LOL!!! Read this again and tell me why this is true, other than one person standing up for what's right saying that the emperor actually has no clothes.

LOL! You idiots never miss a chance to pile onto someone trying to do something good when Christianity is involved.

Take your corrupted attitude somewhere else!

Why shouldn't I stand up for them?

"All of the evidence points to them setting up a safe haven in a neighboring State/Country, similar to what happened after Katrina..."

Well, except for the important evidence:

"...the US citizens did not have the proper documents from the government to take the children out of Haiti, nor letters of authorisation from their parents..."

Had Haitians done this to NOLA children, there'd be howling heard on the moon.

a perfect opportunity to attack the do-gooders

If they were do-gooders, they would have tried to reunite the children with the families that they knew about!

They may have started off intending well, but somewhere along the line what these people got pretty far off course and now they're sitting in jail for taking kids away from their families.

Thanks Zombie.

Had Haitians done this to NOLA children, there'd be howling heard on the moon.

hard to imagine something like that.

a chance to pile onto someone trying to do something good when Christianity is involved

Religious delusion explains the "why," but "what" of the matter is the thing pissing people off. Aid workers took kids from their families. The fact that they think they were doing god's work while doing this just makes them idiots as well as criminals.

"...nor letters of authorisation from their parents..."

Kinda hard to excuse that, isn't it?

"...the US citizens did not have the proper documents from the government to take the children out of Haiti, nor letters of authorisation from their parents..."

Had Haitians done this to NOLA children, there'd be howling heard on the moon.

#58 | Posted by Danforth

Nice change in perspective Danforth. LOL

But, many of the children misplaced by Katrina are probably of Haitian descent.


a chance to pile onto someone trying to do something good when Christianity is involved

Religious delusion explains the "why," but "what" of the matter is the thing pissing people off. Aid workers took kids from their families. The fact that they think they were doing god's work while doing this just makes them idiots as well as criminals.

#62 | Posted by ZombieHunter

They did? Do you have proof?


a perfect opportunity to attack the do-gooders

If they were do-gooders, they would have tried to reunite the children with the families that they knew about!

They may have started off intending well, but somewhere along the line what these people got pretty far off course and now they're sitting in jail for taking kids away from their families.

#59 | Posted by ZombieHunter

This may be true, but you are, at this point, only assuming and have a few lines in an unconfirmed article saying that they took the children from their parents' arms.

But, many of the children misplaced by Katrina are probably of Haitian descent.

#64 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-02-01 04:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's interesting. Was there a big influx of people from Haiti in LA? And many of those children "misplaced" by Katrina (how many were there?) were probably of "Haitian descent."

Fucking fascinating! Can you give me a link?

The fact that they think they were doing god's work while doing this just makes them idiots as well as criminals.

#62 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Simple put! Fucking WOW!

Setting up an orphanage 70 miles away is not taking them from their families.

You are basing your ridicule on assumptions! You don't know the facts.

This may be true, but you are, at this point, only assuming and have a few lines in an unconfirmed article saying that they took the children from their parents' arms.

#66 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-02-01 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

They didn't seem to have the parents' permission. Hopefully it was in all cases verbal, but it doesn't look good.


But, many of the children misplaced by Katrina are probably of Haitian descent.

#64 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-02-01 04:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's interesting. Was there a big influx of people from Haiti in LA? And many of those children "misplaced" by Katrina (how many were there?) were probably of "Haitian descent."

Fucking fascinating! Can you give me a link?

#67 | Posted by BetelG

LOL!

BetelG just announed that there are no Hatians nor were there ever Hatians in NOLA!

LOL!!

Oh, you're not serious? My bad.

Setting up an orphanage 70 miles away is not taking them from their families.

Well, it would be if they don't have the parents permission.

BetelG just announed that there are no Hatians nor were there ever Hatians in NOLA!

no, I don't believe I did. I was interested in finding out more information about it, which you don't seem to wish to share.

#66 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-02-01 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

They didn't seem to have the parents' permission. Hopefully it was in all cases verbal, but it doesn't look good.

#69 | Posted by BetelG

WOW! Thank you for considering the possibility of a verbal agreement between the parents and the aid workers.

But, you are right, it doesn't look good at this point.

But, if a dumbass judge holds them for trial, I can see a great deal of aid halting for Haiti. Sad, but true.

Setting up an orphanage 70 miles away is not taking them from their families.

Then what the fuck is it?

What kind of a goddamn can justify taking kids across an international border when the kids know where their parents were and how to contact them?

That is most certainly "taking them away from their families".


BetelG just announed that there are no Hatians nor were there ever Hatians in NOLA!

no, I don't believe I did. I was interested in finding out more information about it, which you don't seem to wish to share.

#72 | Posted by BetelG

BetelG,
I was returning sarcasm to another response...

If they reunite any of these children with their families then I would say these folks have fucked up big especially if these children told these workers they have families.

Again, too early, too little known at this time...

But do carry on.......

should read "goddamn idiot"

What kind of a goddamn can justify taking kids across an international border when the kids know where their parents were and how to contact them?

That is most certainly "taking them away from their families".

#74 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Yes, it would be if it is true. We don't know that yet. Just because someone wrote something that he thinks he heard someone say about what they heard is not the turth.

We will know for sure, probably, today.

Has Boob or Goatman hacked Eddie's account?

This sound way too much like a Boob/Goatman 'debate'.

VOTE HERE:

I think 'Eddie' is really Goatman []
I think 'Eddie' is really BufaloBob []

There has yet to be any mention of aliens, car antennas, or 9/11 conspiracies...

Axehole,

come on. boob? He draws conclusions that fit his ideology all the time regardless of evidence to the contrary.

Eddie is simply waiting to learn more.

Just like you should.

Apparently you aren't.....which sort of indicates YOUR account has been hacked by boob.

wait, that isn't necessary....you are paranoid loon anyway.


should read "goddamn idiot"

#77 | Posted by ZombieHunter

The one who comments that the emperor has no cloths?

Actually I was thing he is more like the goatfart. Keeps on plugging away knowing he is wrong but hopes that if he keeps posting long enough, the other guy will give up and go to bed so he can claim 'victory'.

Eddie is simply waiting to learn more.

He's gone a little beyond that with his whining about Christian persecution.

"You, Redneck, and Northguy are condemning these people as kidnappers."

They are kidnapers.

The proof is the fact that the orphanage the children were taken too after being liberated from their "chrsitian" kidnappers, immediately was able to locate parents and relatives of the kidnap victims.

And they didn't need a hotel room, an 18 hour bus ride of agony, or anything else to help these kids.

They weren't there to help kids; they were there to Help Themselves. Make no mistake; wherever there is upheaval in the World, these "christians" are there to capitalize on the Misery.

I hope they draw and quarter these bastards, then smear their remains with Chicken Blood!

He's gone a little beyond that with his whining about Christian persecution.

yeah, he's wrong.

What with terms like

Never trust a christian.
This is why the WingDings Cling to their Bibles.
Religious delusion
thumper fuckups

etc...

most of them by you.

The proof is the fact that the orphanage the children were taken too after being liberated from their "chrsitian" kidnappers, immediately was able to locate parents and relatives of the kidnap victims.

I read they were "working to locate them with parents and relatives"

I hope they draw and quarter these bastards, then smear their remains with Chicken Blood!

I don't know what the fuck any of that means but if these people were attempting to "sell" these kids then fine by me.


Actually I was thing he is more like the goatfart. Keeps on plugging away knowing he is wrong but hopes that if he keeps posting long enough, the other guy will give up and go to bed so he can claim 'victory'.

#84 | Posted by axe

GOD! The absolute idiacy of this?

Knowing that I'm wrong? There is more evidence pointing to the fact that these people were simply getting children to an orphange 70 miles away.

All you have is some guy saying that a child gave him a phone number and address which may or may not still be there!

Comeon, are you kidding me?

=The absolute idiacy

I guess I can go home now.....


=The absolute idiacy

I guess I can go home now.....

#91 | Posted by Corky

forgot to spell check, Oops...

The proof is the fact that the orphanage the children were taken too after being liberated from their "chrsitian" kidnappers, immediately was able to locate parents and relatives of the kidnap victims.

#86 | Posted by Redneckville

Uh, Axe, you idiot...

Did you mean Redneck when you said Eddie
knows he's wrong..."

This is too funny.

Uh, Redneck, you can't lie and pass it off as the truth. It's called... uh... lying!

Just because your mentor Michael Moore thinks he gets away with it...


Eddie is simply waiting to learn more.

He's gone a little beyond that with his whining about Christian persecution.

#85 | Posted by ZombieHunter

It is what it is...

Do you completely ignore Redneck? Are you kidding?

I hope they draw and quarter these bastards, then smear their remains with Chicken Blood!

#86 | Posted by Redneckville

I think that Redneck is a simple dumbass and then he posts something like this that leads me to believe that he's a poser or a troll.

That is just a troll-like statement, right? Redneck? RIGHT?

I wonder what the children have to say?

More will be revealed with this story. If they were stealing thes kids then hang them from the trees still standing, there must be a few, and send a message to the rest of the sick fucks thinking about this.

What a wonderful world we live in

I wonder what the children have to say?

More will be revealed with this story. If they were stealing thes kids then hang them from the trees still standing, there must be a few, and send a message to the rest of the sick fucks thinking about this.

What a wonderful world we live in

Then again its not obvious they are scumbags, I mean its not like they were shooting at some cops or something blatant like that.

Shooting at the cops dressed in a blue turban/halloween costume.

#2 | POSTED BY LISA
"Their heart is in the right place but they need to follow proper channels. You just can't take children like that."

I hope so, Lisa But they should have known better.

#48 | POSTED BY AXE
"Too bad those thumper fuckups can't tell the difference between little brown boys (Flush's favorite) and little black boys."

Wow. What a loaded post.

Don't think I've heard the term "thumper fuckup".

I'm guessing these folks call Hayden Lake, ID their home.


I'm guessing these folks call Hayden Lake, ID their home.

#101 | Posted by USN

Why would you say this?

My guess is that you have abut 1/100 the compassion for other people as just one of these aid workers!

Their plan was to take around 100 children by bus to a rented hotel at a beach resort in the Dominican Republic, where they planned to establish an orphanage.

maybe they should've established their "orphanage" FIRST? ya know, made some contacts, worked with some established agencies... oh say like the Red Cross? sure they could have contributed food or money and stayed away... cause they sure ain't got no skills that are needed down there right now. but NooOoOooo.

they should smoke more pot, lots more.

EDDIE: There are so many children who are being flown and driven out of the country so that they can get to a place without the violence of chaos.

so that they can? so that they might? YEAH i want to go to America!

now your true motives come out. it's your way or the highway.
violence and chaos? look in a mirror.

maybe they should googled it! no, these ppl want to take everything into their own hands.

i called my Red Cross to see if they were deploying or would deploy me, no, not right now, but if you want to know what they need:
www.cidi.org

did these people consider making such calls? who transported them in there anyway?

these people get into and cause trouble when they act vigilantes. they have no respect for people, governments, or the law.

from the above CIDI site:

Want to Volunteer? Read this FIRST!

Disaster do-gooders can actually hinder help
Uninvited volunteers, useless donations can cost money, time and live

www.msnbc.msn.com

they are related stories there about churches moving out children, etc.

Haitian orphans and NewLifeChurch, from the links above:
worldblog.msnbc.msn.com
related...
Love a Child, Inc.
www.loveachild.com

#106 | Posted by ichiro

You made 4 posts and didn't say anything but hind-sight-is-20/20.

What are you trying to say?

All I've heard from you people is that if I see a bleeding child in the street, I should look the other way...

"All I've heard from you people is that if I see a bleeding child in the street, I should look the other way..."

No, some have suggested if you're going to spirit children out of their native country, you should at least do it legally.

Too big a concept to grasp?


"All I've heard from you people is that if I see a bleeding child in the street, I should look the other way..."

No, some have suggested if you're going to spirit children out of their native country, you should at least do it legally.

Too big a concept to grasp?

#108 | Posted by Danforth

Wow, Danforth, are you being willfully stupid just to pick on me?

I'm honored! LOL!!!

that's not what ichiro said in his 4 posts. What the hell are you talking about?

Danforth, this thread was shut down when the christain haters finally realized that these people were trying to help the children...

You come in and act like a complete idiot. Perhaps you should read the thread first?

"The Haitian parents told The Associated Press they surrendered their children on Jan. 28, two days after a local orphanage worker acting on behalf of the Baptists convened nearly the entire village of about 500 people on a dirt soccer pitch to present the Americans' offer.

The orphanage worker, Issac Adrien, said he told the villagers their children would be educated at a home in the Dominican Republic so that they might eventually return to take care of their families."

Haitian Parents Say They Willingly Gave Kids to Detained Americans

Warning Danforth: Pick your battles

"these people were trying to help the children..."

By kidnapping them illegally?

Hard to pretend you're being altruistic when you refuse to adhere to the basic laws of the country. And when you take "orphans" who have families.

"Haitian Parents Say They Willingly Gave Kids to Detained Americans"

Okay....now show me where these folks got the proper clearance from the government of Haiti.

"Warning Danforth: Pick your battles"

Posts the guy who has spent the entire thread defending lawbreakers.

Posts the guy who has spent the entire thread defending lawbreakers.

#112 | Posted by Danforth

I'm just simply not understanding this reasoning.

Again, I see children starving and I can do something, but because I'm afraid that Danforth will call me a lawbreaker I should do nothing?

Danforth, do you stand behind your logic?

I think you'd better read the AP article...

You look like a fool.

I just don't understand why you idiots hate christains so much. It's amazing how you'll make yourself look idiotic just to show your hate.

"Again, I see children starving and I can do something, but because I'm afraid that Danforth will call me a lawbreaker I should do nothing?"

No, you should do something, just within legal bounds. Do you really not know the difference?

"You look like a fool."

Posts the guy who's spent the entire thread suggesting it's okay to break the law of other countries, as long as you do it with an open heart.

"I just don't understand why you idiots hate christains so much."

WTF does this have to do with Christians?!? This is about lawbreakers who believe it's okay to flaunt the laws of other countries as long as you pretend/claim you were trying to do "good".

"It's amazing how you'll make yourself look idiotic just to show your hate."

The only thing I "hate" is stupidity.

No, you should do something, just within legal bounds. Do you really not know the difference?

#114 | Posted by Danforth

I'll agree with you that they may have broken the law. But I don't think they willfully broke the law.

I will also give you the benefit of the doubt that you are treating this situation like it is happening in the US and there is no emergency or the threat of violence, disease or starvation.

Yes, they pushed the law. They had documentation, but they didn't have the "right" documentation.

Were you there? Do you realize that people are dying?

At least about it before commenting! GEEZ!!!

Danforth, you are a troll and you jump in and try and make a point that carried very little water and harp on it until I give in just to get rid on you then claim victory!

Please go away! You've been lurking around my threads hiding and waiting to pounce.

Here's some advice. Choose wisely! Choose something you can win with!!!!

The only thing I "hate" is stupidity.

#114 | Posted by Danforth

Libs are usually self-loathers.

This is sad.

It's like beating up a drunk.

Get away dude! Just get away, leave me alone! You're drunk!

" leave me alone!"

You always want to be "left alone" when you're getting your ass handed to you.

"It's like beating up a drunk."

I know, but I can't seem to resist.

Do you realize the only reason you're excusing these folks is because they're Christian?!? That if a bunch of Muslims had come into NOLA after Katrina and began spiriting away children illegally, you'd be the loudest protestor?

Danforth,

muslims and NOLA?

Where would they take them? Houston?

If they did, I would have no problem with it, would you?

If a group of muslims from a specific mosque, who had 2-year plans to help children in NOLA in the name of Muhammad and would teach them how to be good muslims (with the children's parents permission), came into NOLA through the flood using boats and helicopters, and took 33 children to safety, I would not have a problem with it.

Would you?

I would have a problem with the authorities if these muslims were stopped and arrested.

Would you have a problem with the authorities if they were arrested just because they were muslims?

Just like I have no problem with these people taking the 33 starving children 70 miles away, with their parents' enthusiastic permission!

you'd be the loudest protestor?

#117 | Posted by Danforth

My wife grew up a muslim. Her entire family are muslim.

Be careful that you think you know me, you don't. Even though I've told you this before.

No, you should do something, just within legal bounds. Do you really not know the difference?

#114 | Posted by Danforth

your only argument is that these people broke the law.

I agree with you.

You know something? This country would not have become if a few people didn't break the law!

Didn't the founders break the law when they signed the Declaration of Independence?


"these people were trying to help the children..."

By kidnapping them illegally?

#111 | Posted by Danforth

This is what you said. They didn't and they have witnesses and documentation proving that.

That's why I'm saying arguing with you is like fighting a drunk. You didn't read the thread nor did you read the article.

I keep knocking you down, but you keep getting back up again.

What would you say to a drunk who kept following you down the street?

And then you claim victory? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Are you kidding?

The road to hell, right? . . .

My wife grew up a muslim. Her entire family are muslim.

From where?

"Be careful that you think you know me, you don't."

I'm sure you're right.

But ultimately, that doesn't matter. These folks went into another country and took children away in violation of that country's laws. You want to excuse them because you believe they were being altruistic. I also believe they were being altruistic, but think -- if they really wanted to do right -- they would have also adhered to the laws of the country they entered. You mentioned something about the fact they're Christian. Forgive me for not following closely, but I had no idea what denomination they were, and it really didn't matter to me, and shouldn't to you. Had circumstances been turned around, and, say, Muslims had been spiriting American children out of the country because of Katrina, you'd be screaming.

www.breitbart.com

Clinton terms Haiti child smuggling case 'unfortunate'

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday it was "unfortunate" that American Christians are suspected of smuggling children out of quake-hit Haiti even if their intentions were good....

"And then you claim victory?"

I never "claimed" anything. Are you drunk?

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