Opposition has usually been based on specific policy concerns or complaints that the measures aren't going far enough. But the message being sent is that the GOP's sole mission is presidential destruction.

Now, some in the party are beginning to worry.

"I can't tell you why they are taking this approach," said Jim Kolbe, a former member of Congress and longtime fiscal hawk from Arizona. "I have doubts about some of them myself but I think that certainly the pay-go and the commission have some merit and we should be supporting those. I don't have an answer to this. Whether this is just part of them being philosophically opposed or are they just being obstructionists, I don't know?

"I do think there is that worry [that we come off as obstructionists]," Kolbe added. "I think this thing can turn around just as fast as it turned against the Democrats, it can turn the other way if the Republican don't respond with serious proposals here."

No shit, Sherlock.

After the beating they took last night at their own retreat, perhaps they'll start listening to some of the more sane voices in what is left of their Party, and stop with the obstructionism before they become known as the Grand Old Tea Party.

After the President Obama Schooled the Fox-Republicans at their own retreat, one can rest assured that we elected the right person, an the right Party, DEMOCRATS ROCK!!!!!!

They'll just obstruct louder. They don't offer ideas or solutions just appeals to people's fears and good news like the rise in GDP undermines their message. They'll be looking for another mini-scandal to try and distract from any success that happens and pretend it is important. It's what they do. I expect we'll be hearing ACORN, ACORN, ACORN for the next few months.

This goes well with their fear and hate messages.

#4 |

Maybe so. In the 90's, they decided that the only way to defeat a popular progressive Pres was to spend millions of dollars going after him personally and in court.

Obama won't be likely to fall into the same kind of trap, but they'll find something to try to undermine him with the public.

I notice the old Birther horseshit is resurfacing, since they haven't been able to find anything else so far.

Republicans offer plenty of ideas, and it seems Barankrupt is now finally listening. Like not having KSM's trial in NYC. And now, they've decided to have it in a military tribunal as well! And lets not forget those tax incentives to businesses. And extending GW's tax cuts! Obama is doing well by listening to the smart people. Yay, Bama! Keep listening and learning.

Keep kicking ass and taking names, more like.

Hahahaha. How's that public option coming there, Corkles?

And that Gitmo clossure? Yup. Keep kicking ass, Barry. LOL.

They shouldn't be. When Obama and the Dems have a good idea, then it's okay to play along. Until then, no. The American public hate this abortion of a health care bill, we despise even the suggestion of cap-and-trade, and this monstrous spending has to stop.

and this monstrous spending has to stop.

It's a shame Barry and company don't agree with you. Can you say 14 trillion debt ceiling? Approved right after the Liar-in-Chief said we have to stop spending? LOL.

-American public, we despise

You have a mouse in your pocket?

The public option is still at 57 percent approval, while the Sen plan is dissed by both side.

Public opinion is at a reasonable 50 percent.... before the SOTU, new polls will be better.... and tearing Rethugs a new asshole at their own Retreat?

Priceless.

And that Gitmo clossure? Yup. Keep kicking ass, Barry. LOL.

#10 | Posted by cookfish

How about moving the civilian trials out of NYC---the funny thing is the Obummer is moving toward the repubs because he knows he has to not because he wanted to---Corky, etal must really like the repub ideas.

The public option is still at 57 percent approval

Lie. Show your poll, AND the date, shillboy.

Corky, etal must really like the repub ideas.

Corky has embraced the Bush tax cuts Obam wants to keep, as well as the tax incentives he's offering businesses. Corky is one step away from wanting to privatize Social Security. LOL.

"some repubs nervous about obstructionist label"

a) some repubs SHOULD be nervous

b) some dems SHOULD be nervous

c) all incumbent politicians SHOULD be very nervous

This was a couple of months ago.... not much has changed

It's not a refusal to work with Obama, it's a refusal to give Obama permission to enact detrimental policies on what is quickly becoming a society yoked to heavy burden by an oppressive government that not only incorrectly uses word and phrase to dupe the dupeable but most importantly hasn't a clue of what the definition of FREEDOM is.

If anyone thinks that Obama is being obstructed just for the sake of obstruction, TOUGH SHIT. I'll take all the OBSTRUCTION they can throw at his oppressive policies.

Or as another poster put it not so long ago. I want complete and utter political gridlock.

In fact I want them all fired and replaced by people that have actually invented, and or done things (work) that has benefited the human condition.

No more lawyers for at least a generation and we'll all be better off.

Life is simple, don't cheat, don't steal, your word is your bond and earn what you get.

Too many people in todays society possess at least 5 of the 7 deadly sins at any given time and until they understand why and how it's up to them to get rid of them themselves we'll all be drug down along with them.

some repubs nervous about obstructionist label"

a) some repubs SHOULD be nervous

b) some dems SHOULD be nervous

c) all incumbent politicians SHOULD be very nervous

#17 | Posted by markh

You're right---the ones up for re-election are looking at the Massachusetts repudiation and deciding what they have to do the rest of the year not to get thrown out on their rearends.

This was a couple of months ago.... not much has changed

LOL. Thats' why in the past "couple months," the Govs of VA and NJ were overthrown, and Teddy's seat was taken away in the bluest of states. You do realize that current polls are generally accepted as valid information? LOL.

There was a poll a "couple of months ago" that said you weren't a friggin' idiot, Cork, but that one's changed drastically, too.

Hey, Corky, quote me that poll on how Jimmy Carter's doing with those pesky Iranians. I need some current info from ya! LOL!!

Oh well, Cockfisher... do show us the current major poll proving your point.....

we'll wait....

roflmfao!

btw, the last major poll is always the most current one.

Cookie was poled by David Dreier once, well, more than once, and it still feels current to him.

I hope people will look back and notice that this was a nice thread, some debate going on, until the Fish troll came along to start with the ad hominem in place of retort.

My choice is to either ignore the ignorant or ridicule the ridiculous, and one is more fun than the other.

Cookie was poled by David Dreier once, well, more than once, and it still feels current to him.

#24 | Posted by Corky

?poled on a raft---?hoisted on a pole---try poll.

do show us the current major poll proving your point.....

we'll wait....

We're STILL waiting for YOU to show us a current poll to prove YOUR point, remember, or weren't you listening. All you can say is, "oh well" when you're proven to be a lying shill.

Still waiting for that more current major poll, Minced Pieces......

Corky, I need to see that current poll you've got on how Americans feel about that nasty Pearl Harbor attack. It's only a couple of months old, right? LOL. What a Dorkie is that Corky.

hope people will look back and notice that this was a nice thread, some debate going on, until the Fish troll came along to start with the ad hominem in place of retort.

#25 | Posted by Corky

Yeah, but you gotta admit his retorts are humorous as heck---the only problem; you happen to be on the receiving end.

I showed you the most current major poll proving my point, but you didn't like it and you are the one that claimed I was "lying"... so prove it, mah bitch.

Right wingers are incapable of discussion based on facts. Any of them. They pretend 2001-2009 disappeared into The Twilight Zone and the ills of the world are the Democrats and Obama's fault. There's LSD in that Kool-Aid they drank that gave them CCRS - Conveniently Can't Remember Shit

No, you're right Corky. The Dems don't have anything to worry about.

Keep believin'! Don't change anything!

LOL. You're funny. I love the smell of rank desperation in the morning!

Still waiting for that more current major poll

Still waiting for YOURS. I asked first. And can you make it so it's not a "couple of months old", and not treat it like it's current info? Thanks. i'll wait. I asked YOU first. Time to come clean, shillboy.

Still waiting, shill boy.

the only problem; you happen to be on the receiving end.

A lifetime of this has left Cork walking funny as hell.

OK, so Cookie looked and found what I did, that the last major poll on this was the one I posted, Reuters on Dec 3rd, which showed public option approval at about 60 percent.... I only said 57, which it was at most months last year.

But, there is no point to this, there is only one bankrupt, sad old mackerel swimming in lazy circles in the shallow end of the gene pool, who cannot come up with a more recent poll that proves his point.

Ya'll have a good weekend now, hear?

i'll wait.
#34 | Posted by cookfish at 2010-01-30 12:04 PM

Still waiting
#35 | Posted by cookfish at 2010-01-30 12:05 PM

A.D.D.

CORKY

You could tell right wingers God created the Moon round, but if God were rumored to be a Democrat it would always have been and always will be rotten Swiss cheese. They do not live in reality and ignore any inconvenient fact or bit of history that doesn't fit into their tiny square meme. Education = 'elite' in their world. Their minds are incapable of rational thought or intellectual curiosity.

the only problem; you happen to be on the receiving end.

A lifetime of this has left Cork walking funny as hell.

#36 | Posted by cookfish

Staggers and leans to the left?--in need of a cerebral and brainstem MRI?

Psst - Corky! Got any current stock tips for us? LOL.

Cookie why did you get expelled from the pwz?

Sarvis is so inebriated already that he can only cut n' paste. The Jacquins must be a flowin' thsi morning!

Jackass- why did you get expelled from The Cobra Kai's?

Yeah. They're just so nervous about it. Hannity and Limbaugh are calling for reasonableness and compromise. LOL.

When obstructionism is the only card you got, it's the only card you play.

#43 | Posted by cookfish | Flag: Nerve Struck - Feelings Hurt

The drop in support of Obama's numbers is historic, going from 70%+ to below 50%. What the Dems are seeing--now in the bluest of states--is that if the economy doesn't improve, and fast, they're dead. Obama is hard to dislike personally, but America is at odds with his policies, and his priorities. Dem Congressmen at home are obviously hearing it.

They should ignore it though, and plow ahead. Go Demmies!

Jackass- why did you get expelled from The Cobra Kai's?

#44 | Posted by cookfish

I kicked all their asses. I heard Jersey Boys were all cowards. Is that true?

While the behavior of the GOP is not surprising, most people I speak with find it contemptible.

When obstructionism is the only card you got, it's the only card you play.

#45 | Posted by moder8

I guess it worked since Obama is now realizing he has to become pragmatic and leave his ideology in his wake--he's trying not to show it(talking big for consumption) but he's moving on his knees to the repubs hoping they'll bail out his sorry rearend by taking on some of their positions --and then all the loyalists (like Corky, Jackass, and Americanunity) will applaud---he knows the message of Mass., New Jersey, and Virgina.

I've said for a long time that the GOP underestimates Obama (and does so at its own peril). I've got plenty of disagreements with Obama, largely because he's not far enough to the Left. (He is, essentially, a centrist infromed by liberal ideas.) What the Party of No doesn't appear to have figured out is that they are dealing with a very smooth practitioner of the political art. My sense of the guy is that he's not only a good strategist but an excellent tactitian. Witness, for example, how he got the bettr of House GOPers at their retreat.

While the Party of No has used obstruction as a way of trying to pull Obama down, that tactic's poliltical usefulness appears to have come to or be quite close to coming to an end. Certainly in terms of its utility.

At this point, the GOPers in Congress may be trying to play to a broad audience, but they're scarecely being heard and aren't being paid much attention to much beyond their base.

The base is important. Those Twenty-Six Percenters and whoever else the congressional Republoicans can corral will help. But they won't be enough for success beyond districts with heavy Republican registation.

Check out the polls that indicate people aren't particularly enamored of either the congressional GOP or congressional Dems, polls that also indicate they genuinely like Obama as a person. Then consider who the GOPiggies have warmed up in the pen for 2012 and Obama looks stronger than his opposition.

Here's the main difference at the moment (and this can change, of course): it's becoming increasingly clear to Americans that their president is behaving like an adult and the GOP obsgtructionists aren't.

26 percenters? Have you read a newspaper since last February?

Godalmighty. You're just delusional. Do you really believe that the Congressional Dems are nervous because Obama isn't far ENOUGH to the left?

Whatever.

"They'll just obstruct louder. They don't offer ideas or solutions just appeals to people's fears and good news like the rise in GDP undermines their message."
#4 | Posted by danni

The two biggest obstructionists in congress today is Pelosi and Reid. They are also the most partisan hacks. Pelosi is the worse of the two. There are others, but none bigger. You haven't noticed lately it only because there is a Democrat for President and refused to notice it when there was a Republican President. Try taking off the blinders sometime and you will find a big world out there.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot each time they reject ideas they like because they came from a Democratic president. When they voted against a deficit reduction commission and a pay-as-you-go provision to limit new spending, they gift-wrapped two campaign issues for Democrats in the fall. If they were genuinely serious about fiscal restraint, they would've voted for those measures.

They should ignore it though, and plow ahead. Go Demmies!

#47 | Posted by rightisright

Obama isn't---the fact that he went to the repub caucus tells you he's wanting to deal now---he hopes that by doing that the Nov. elections won't be the disaster now that they're shaping up for the dems.

While the behavior of the GOP is not surprising, most people I speak with find it contemptible.

#49 | Posted by moder8
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Maybe you need a wider acquaintanceship. A absolute nobody in Massachusetts ran on one--and only one--platform: to vote against health care. If Obamastructionism works in Massachusetts, it's coming soon, to a location near you.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot each time they reject ideas they like because they came from a Democratic president. When they voted against a deficit reduction commission and a pay-as-you-go provision to limit new spending, they gift-wrapped two campaign issues for Democrats in the fall. If they were genuinely serious about fiscal restraint, they would've voted for those measures.

#54 | Posted by rcade

And who controls the senate?---23 dems voted against it.

Check out the polls that indicate people aren't particularly enamored of either the congressional GOP or congressional Dems, polls that also indicate they genuinely like Obama as a person. Then consider who the GOPiggies have warmed up in the pen for 2012 and Obama looks stronger than his opposition.

Here's the main difference at the moment (and this can change, of course): it's becoming increasingly clear to Americans that their president is behaving like an adult and the GOP obsgtructionists aren't.

#51 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

The point is that whoever wins in Nov. (repubs or dems) they'll not be the ideologues the "adult" wishes for---the majority will be repubs and the dems that win will not be at the beck and call of Obama. Furthermore, I don't care how smooth this guy is, it'll all be about the economy, stupid (not directed your way) in 2012.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot each time they reject ideas they like because they came from a Democratic president.

Yup. There's still holes in their bunyons from the VA, NJ and MA elections. They're just killing themselves

Cookie your party has no ideas. Saying no to everything won't work forever. I can't wait to laugh at your parties failure. They will fail worse than you have in life.

#58 | Posted by matsop

Agreed about the "beck and call" business, as well as the role the economy will play in the elections. (As well as -- one may hope -- the crafting of effective policy; although I'm not holding my breath for that one. Congress increasingly comes across, at least to me, as a giant sausage manufacturing plant.)

You're funny Jackass.

Yup. There's still holes in their bunyons from the VA, NJ and MA elections. They're just killing themselves.

Do you think Republicans can keep winning elections while intentionally accomplishing nothing while in office? Good luck with that.

Do you think the Democrats can? Good luck with that too.

Do you think Republicans can keep winning elections while intentionally accomplishing nothing while in office?

It's not a real big concern right now, as Obama is accomplishing enough "nothing" for everyone, and his party is at each others throats. Why do anything right now except watch your opponents kick each other in the nuts, laugh, and point it out to the American people?

In fact I want them all fired and replaced by people that have actually invented, and or done things (work) that has benefited the human condition.

No more lawyers for at least a generation and we'll all be better off.

You think the laws enacted by the legislature will be better when they're not written by lawyers?

It's like asking someone who "No Speakie English" to help you learn Shakespeare.

You think the laws enacted by the legislature will be better when they're not written by lawyers?
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You happy with the laws we've got? Worth a try. Maybe something like the health bill wouldn't be 2000 pages that nobody can understand, so they don't even bother reading the thing.

Do you think Republicans can keep winning elections while intentionally accomplishing nothing while in office? Good luck with that.

#63 | Posted by rcade

state and local gvts have plenty of capacity to meet their citizen's needs

Do you think the Democrats can? Good luck with that too.

The Democrats spent the last six months working on one of the biggest problems facing Americans. Voters elect Democrats to tackle domestic issues like health reform. The reason they are down on the subject is because Democrats haven't gotten it done yet. When it passes in some form, approval for the idea will jump up.

I'm thinking most (working class) Americans could be quite happy with a decade or so of gridlock (accomplishing nothing) in DC.

If that was true, Americans wouldn't be angry about so many different needs going unmet in DC. They're not angry because the government tries to do too much. Social Security and Medicare are enormously popular.

Here in Louisiana it is the two obstructionists who get my vote, the prostitute Landrieu does not. I love the smell of gridlock in the morning.

While the behavior of the GOP is not surprising, most people I speak with find it contemptible.

#49 | Posted by moder8 at 2010-01-30 12:32 PM

Translation: I hate my brother, the doctor, that miserable conservative prick. I'll waste my time here away from reality if I want to.

Do you think Republicans can keep winning elections while intentionally accomplishing nothing while in office? Good luck with that.

#63 | Posted by rcade at 2010-01-30 01:26 PM | Reply

That's rich. According to you stopping communistic policy amounts to accomplishing nothing.

What's your real job?

"communistic policy"

ROTFLMAO!

Translation....I'll waste my time here away from reality if I want to.
#71 | Posted by Washboard

Translation: You're wasting your time here away from reality because you want to.

Here in Louisiana it is the two obstructionists who get my vote, the prostitute Landrieu does not. I love the smell of gridlock in the morning.

#70 | Posted by MSgt at 2010-01-30 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nice reasoning, you call Landrieu a prostitute and you won't vote for her but plan to support the confessed whoremonger Vitter....

You beat your wife don't you.

And yes I live in Louisiana.

"communistic policy"

ROTFLMAO!

#74 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2010-01-30 03:19 PM

Main Entry: communism
Pronunciation: ˈkm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -y-
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively

Anna Ebeling was born, raised, and educated in the former Soviet Union. Living much of her life in the heart of what Ronald Reagan called "the evil empire," she experienced first hand the reality of "the workers' paradise." Her stories of the absurdities of life in the collectivist utopia are many. Anna met Richard Ebeling in Moscow in May 1991 and married him later that year. Together they joined the defenders of liberty and faced Soviet tanks at the Russian Parliament in Moscow during the attempted hard-line communist coup d'tat.

If that was true, Americans wouldn't be angry about so many different needs going unmet in DC.
They're not angry because the government tries to do too much. Social Security and Medicare are enormously popular.

#69 | Posted by rcade

a) 70% would like the healthcare bill flushed down the toilet

b) Virginia

c) New Jersey

d) Massachusetts

ya seem a bit outa touch

The reason they are down on the subject is because Democrats haven't gotten it done yet. When it passes in some form, approval for the idea will jump up.

I am sure Americans that see their taxes increase will be happy they are paying for healthcare for people that are too weak to support themselves

The reason they are down on the subject is because Democrats haven't gotten it done yet. When it passes in some form, approval for the idea will jump up.

I am sure Americans that see their taxes increase will be happy they are paying for healthcare for people that are too weak to support themselves

#81 | Posted by timbci

Still feel there'll be a bill but totally different from the initial bill---the irony is Obama will swallow hard (because he's desperate for something to sign) and take on a lot of the repubs' ideas--it'll then be a bill most Americans can live with.

actually . . . yep, I'm thinking most (working class) Americans could be quite happy with a decade or so of gridlock (accomplishing nothing) in DC

Americans (more specifically, American employers) cannot endure another decade of health insurance costs rising at 4x the rate of inflation.

Just ask any of them.

the republifuckers are blocking legislation for the same reason the vaginacrats did during bush year: NOT GETTING PAID OFF!

pigs at the trough.

LFTHNDTHRDS - We Just moved here to Louisiana this past year and I only care about my concern is how they vote - and yes she is a prostitute for taking money for her vote. Guess my vote will cancel out yours.

As for the wife - only with riding crops and floggers :)

Either you LEAD, FOLLOW or get (the hell) out of the way.

Why hasn't Obama used that phrase to describe the Republicans that are more interested in their politics than the USA in this famous Thomas Paine quote?

He is far too passive.

As a conservative I have no problem with the obstructionist label... on a couple of fronts.

First, my constituents don't support Obama, so I'm providing a counter balance. If the White House would allow for my amendments and voice to be heard, the better.

Second, if my elected official went along with BHO, I'd be very much open to a primary competitor.

Frankly, the Dems run the whole show... and with a greater majority than Reps ever had in the past generation. To blame an inability to pass legislation on Reps is lame. And Dems know it.

To blame an inability to pass legislation on Reps is lame. And Dems know it.

#87 | Posted by OohRah at 2010-01-30 06:11 PM |

Yep, but they'll continue to declare such on NPR and especially since there is no more AA.

The republicans shouldnt worry about being called obstructionist. It seems that the voters could care less about what republicans are doing these days. I measn afterall, they are tied in a generic poll, even after all that has happened this year. As long as the american voter continue to have short memories and be as stupid as we are, republicans will heve nothing to worry about.

Yes, a few worry, but far more work 24/7 to make sure Obama and the Demowussies can't get anything done. This is their calling. They did the same thing to Clinton. They are treasonous bastards. But power buys impunity from the law. There is no better example of that than the murderer George Bush.

"To blame an inability to pass legislation on Reps is lame. And Dems know it."

Yes it is crazy to blame those who filibuster against and vote against legislation for it not passing. I see you logic.

No I don't, that is stupid and ridiculous to believe that and you really need to be either dishonest or stupid to claim you do.

It seems pretty obvious that the pubbies are on the defensive now. It's funny that the same guys who swore on a stack of virgin bibles that there was no way in hell Obama would ever get elected or that the democrats would gain a majority in both houses are now still gesticulating, or is it ruminating the same old crap again about the next election. They know it's coming and they know they will gain a couple of seats, because that's the way the pendulum swings, but it will do them no good because there is no way they will ever gain a majority in 2010 and as obstructionists they can offer no solutions to anything the majority will accept.

...they can offer no solutions to anything the majority will accept.

So you admit that the democrats have no interest in bipartisanship.

It seems pretty obvious that the pubbies are on the defensive now. It's funny that the same guys who swore on a stack of virgin bibles that there was no way in hell Obama would ever get elected or that the democrats would gain a majority in both houses are now still gesticulating, or is it ruminating the same old crap again about the next election. They know it's coming and they know they will gain a couple of seats, because that's the way the pendulum swings, but it will do them no good because there is no way they will ever gain a majority in 2010 and as obstructionists they can offer no solutions to anything the majority will accept.

#92 | Posted by RingMaster

Keep talking. We will let you talk nd we will just produce results and continue to win elections. Talk is cheap.

How'd that last Tea Party candidate work out? He lost in NY-23. To a Democrat. In a Republican district that hasn't had a Democrat Congressman since the 1800's.

Americans aren't gonna fall for a bunch of ad hoc 'protesters' who, as this video shot at Beck's rally in D.C. proves, don't know their ass from a hole-in-the-ground when questioned.

From the article:

"...it can turn the other way if the Republican don't respond with serious proposals here,"

I wonder if he's referring to the 12 page Budget with no numbers they submitted. What a great start!

David Plouffe has agreed to come back and run the DNC Congressional Campaign effort. The guy's a genius. Ya, we'll lose a few seats as all incumbent parties do in the first term of a new President, but it won't be the bloodbath the Tea Party folks think they' wreak on the Dems this year. The GOP's record of accomplishments are 100% in the category they run from, not 'on'.

DANNI-
Take off the partisan hat for a moment. When Reps had Congress, unlike Dems today, they had razor thin majorities... something which dictated that any sort of legislation be palatable to the "moderates" in the party. Pretty much whatever could get passed back then had to be watered down.

You'll recall that Dubya's attempt to take on Social Security was rebuffed. Why? Because it was deemed too radical for party moderates to accept, much less the Dems.

What we're seeing with healthcare is the same thing. It's a seismic shift and thus nearly impossible to get passed without special favors, etc.

In my view, the hubris brought on by his party's sizeable majorities has encouraged BHO (and Congressional leadership) to "go for it" with highly ambitious legislation. The pushback is to be expected, no?

We will let you talk nd we will just produce results and continue to win elections.

Who's we? The American Nazi Party? The Tea Baggers? The RNC? What results? Obstructionism can't by it's own definition produce any thing of value. It can only result in more of the same.

Every election in the first term of a President in modern times resulted in thee loss of seats for the incumbent party. A given. Don't break out the champagne. :-)

#95 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY
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Check your history again. 2002, notably.

Tell ya what. Take a guess on how many seats in the House and Senate you expect to lose, and I'll take the over. Be honest, though.

Rightisright-
If the Republicans are given any more power, how will they reconcile their newly discovered hatred of deficits with their pledge to cut taxes?

Specifically, what gov't spending will they cut, and what Republican has proposed such cuts?

None, unfortunately. But as atrocious as the Republican deficits were, Obama's are other-worldy. Hard to believe we would look back at Bush's deficits as trifling compared to what we've got now. But there ya go.

Most Americans are too dumb to realize that the economic problems are bigger than even the US government to fix, usually. But they prefer 5% unemployment to 10, and $500 billion deficits to those more than three times that. And unfortunately for the Dems, that's where things stand.

Most Americans are too dumb to realize that the economic problems are bigger than even the US government to fix, usually. But they prefer 5% unemployment to 10, and $500 billion deficits to those more than three times that. And unfortunately for the Dems, that's where things stand.

Thanks to the last administration with their irresponsible 2 tax cuts for the wealthy before starting a $2 Trillion war we didn't need to fight, unfunded Medicare Part D, and $8 trillion of unfunded liabilities for the next 8 years, etc.

Obama had a $1.3 trillion deficit waiting on his doorstep from Bush' 2009 budget.

Sad when you consider Clinton left a plan to completely pay off the national debt by last year. Yet, some complain about Obama as though he did it. Even those who said, only two short years ago borrowing was a good thing. Amazing.

I know. I heard you the first 10,000 times.

Well than, quit blaming Obama. HE didn't create this mess. I'd be cheering him on as he tries to grapple with the mess the right left in it's wake.

And thanks to the 10% unemployment Bush and the GOP left tax revenues are even further down. You don't expect we'd run deficits with that and other items I outlined?

He voted for the bailouts. He voted for big government, every time, and wants still more.

Why don't you quit being a pussy? If deficits are wrong, beat up on Obama for them. If they're not wrong, quit slamming Bush for his. Do you realize how stupid you look?

"...they can offer no solutions to anything the majority will accept."

So you admit that the democrats have no interest in bipartisanship.
#93 | Posted by goatman at 2010-01-31 04:26 AM

Are you smoking crack?! Of course they act "interested" - and continually filibustered regardless!

The Republicans have more than earned "obstructionist", but also "mafia" and "war profiteers".

The Democrats are rolling over when it's not needed and conceding defeat without a fucking debate. They have indeed earned "do nothing", "limp-wristed" and "spineless".

They are complimentary parties to the SAME AGENDA.

Are you smoking crack?!

No. Are you? I can't think of a more non-bipartisan (partisan) statement than:

"...they [republicans] can offer no solutions to anything the majority will accept."

Can you?