Have they started carving Obama yet?

Dorr's Rebellion sealed the deal for me. Surprising we don't have a national holiday for contribtions such as that, yet dismiss out of hand the fall of the Soviet Union...

This is the line I love.."As a libertarian, Dr. Eland does not play favorites"..

"What is somewhat surprising is that Dr. Eland ranks Jimmy Carter as "The Best Modern President" at #8 (restrained foreign policy/evenhanded Middle East policy/deregulated industries/appointed Paul Volcker to the Fed, who then slayed inflation)."

Gosh, how many times have I had to remind righties here that Reagan did not bring inflation under control, Paul Volker did and Carter appointed Volker.
Just wondering today what America would be like had we heeded Jimmy Carter's advice on energy independence.
Wonder too what America would be like had we never listened to the dishonest creeps who proclaimed "deficits don't matter."

Gosh, how many times have I had to remind righties here that Reagan did not bring inflation under control, Paul Volker did and Carter appointed Volker.

Carter was mostly a joke, but he got a worse rap than he deserved.

He DID de-regulate the trucking industry with good results - Reagan, in his memoirs, lamented the lack of recognition to Carter for this.

As for Volker...you are correct. He was a very late Carter appointee. Having said that, he proposed VERY tough, almost parental, policies aimed at getting the economy back on track. Reagan backed him 100% and paid a price during his 1st mid-term - Volker was tough and was advocating policy that the people didn't want to hear. The cost to Reagan was massive deficits. He actually proposed massive spending cuts to coincide with his, at the time, massive tax cuts. The problem was his early unpopularity - the comprimise with the house was tax-cuts without spending cuts; hence deficits.

Have they started carving Obama yet?

#1 | Posted by mysterytoy

I don't think it will happen any time soon. Did you hear that in Indonesia they are thinking of tearing down a statue of Obama? It's just a little boy statue, have they no shame! Just a sweet innoncent little boy statue!

Tyler and the National Bank.

I haven't read the story, but I wonder how this guy looked at the Federal Reserve Bank...

RE: the Federal Reserve BAnk

Unlike in Hollywood movies, in real life the guys with the sinister plots do win. End the Fed, don't mend it!

Have they started carving Obama yet?

#1 | Posted by mysterytoy

Yes, at an undisclosed location in the Black Hills.

"Have they started carving Obama yet?"
#1 | Posted by mysterytoy

RE-carve rush? How'd they get him to sit still for the FIRST carving? Oxycontin?(bet they didn't have to force-feed it to his ass)

By all means-finish the job-carve up his porcine-cyst covered ass.

When you characterize the Louisiana Purchase (something like 14 million = $.04 an acre) as a 'hypocrisy of limited government' you've taken your small-l libertarianism way too far.

I like revisionist history as much as the next guy, but fucking with Jefferson should be fighting words defended by duel.

The sole reason we (attempt to) have a separation of church and State is 26th on the liberty scale?

Where's Preston Brooks when you need him?

Jimmy Carter was a great modern president. Glad to see at least one truly independent educated libertarian acknowledge that fact. Funny how much that truth pisses off rightwingers.

"The cost to Reagan was massive deficits. He actually proposed massive spending cuts to coincide with his, at the time, massive tax cuts. The problem was his early unpopularity - the comprimise with the house was tax-cuts without spending cuts; hence deficits."

Oh gee, then why was the compromise made???
As if REagan didn't know they wouldn't go along with the spending cuts but he demanded the tax cuts anyway and the debt resulted.
BTW, I bought a house during that era, I think the mortgage was something like 14%, I remember it wass $65,000 and the payments were about $1,000. AT the time that was a lot for me, hey, it still is. Fortunately today I have a much lower rate.