Well they would be correct.

The obstructionist party is seen for what it really is.

If GOP doesn't give up it's delusions of grandeur.... and power and money, and decide not to be hte Party of No, then we'll be callin' them the Tea Party sooner rather than later.

Rubio is leading Crist in FL for the first time, btw.

(apologies to Mr Guthrie and "Deportees""

The polls are all in and the peaches are rotting
The oranges are filed in their creosote dumps
They're flying 'em back to the Mexico border
To take all their money to wade back again

Goodbye to my Juan, farewell Roselita
Adios mes amigos, Jesus e Maria

You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane
All they will call you will be Tea Partys

My father's own father, he waded that river
They took all the money he made in his life
It's six hundred miles to the Mexico border
And they chased them like rustlers, like outlaws, like thieves

The skyplane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon
The great ball of fire it shook all our hills
Who are these dear friends who are falling like dry leaves?
Radio said, "They are just Tea Partys"

Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
Is this the best way we can raise our good crops?
To fall like dry leaves and rot on our topsoil
And be known by no names except, "Tea Partys"

No solution to the problem? November isn't that far away.

Doh! Those damn Commies at the Wall Street Journal!!!

I doubt the GOP will change now since it appears to be what the American public wants. Didn't you notice what happened in Mass? That election will be replicated across the country this year. The new GOP campaign will focus on Obama's failed policies.

Does this sound familiar?

With Republicans being blamed for not finding solutions to our problems 48-43 compared to Dems, and a suprising,rationally low 27 percent blaming the President, you might wish Nov were farther away.

...you might wish Nov were farther away.

I wish November was every Tuesday. These dumb-fuck voters who keep putting in these D&Rs might finally wise up and throw them all out.

Does this sound familiar?

It sounds like somone closed their eyes while reading what Americans really think, right now, as opposed to whatever nonsense "conservatives" are spinning that they think.

They see thru the propaganda and blame the Party of No... and rightfully so.

It's pretty clear what would happen if November was sooner, rather than later. Mass showed that.

With Republicans being blamed for not finding solutions to our problems 48-43 compared to Dems, and a suprising,rationally low 27 percent blaming the President, you might wish Nov were farther away.

#6 | Posted by Corky

Sure Corky. You must be drinking from the same stupid fountain that your Party Leaders do. Mass. wasn't B.O.'s fault, but a mandate of his Fiscally Responsible policies. Pelosi and Reid's stellar approval ratings along with Chocolate Carter's only reenforce your position. What a dunce.

Cherry picking the polls? LMAO.

Cherry picking the polls? LMAO.

#11 | Posted by mysterytoy

And ending up with a bushel of sour grapes.

Mother Jim, Fortune Teller Extroidinaire!

Readings Only Fiddy Cents!!

Tea Reading a Specialty!

Deflecting to the future in denial of the facts presented is a sure sign of Rethuglycanism.

Should'nt you be out wiretapping a Dem Senator's office somewhere?

It's a traditionally Rethug thing to do.

Should'nt you be out wiretapping a Dem Senator's office somewhere?

It's a traditionally Rethug thing to do.

What a dunce

Oh man! The crybabies are defensive tonight.

Sorry. Did I rip your cherry there, sweetheart?

Takes more talent than deflecting to the past, oldtimer.

Sorry. Did I rip your cherry there, sweetheart?

#15 | Posted by Corky

You'd be lucky to rip tomorrows talking points open if it came in the mail in a zip lock bag, Pa.

Poor corky. Always floundering after getting the short end of the stick.

Leave Sarvis and his privates out of this, Goat.

If we're the party of no where's your damn healthcare reform? In harry reids pants?

GOP has a clip of Nancy Pelosi saying there won't be any healthcare reform. This should get played all the way up to midterms.

The Corkster is sure loving this poll. It's the only one that's gone his way in months. Perhaps we should just allow him to keep his new stroke material.

93 percent believe there's too much partisan infighting

48 percent blame the GOP

43 percent blame the DNC

It is going to be a very interesting November.

Yeah, but like PeeWee Herman at the movies, nobody wants to see Corky get off like this.

Sorry, 41 blame the DNC. My mistake

Well, I see that you whiners can't take a little bad news in the polls without falling apart.

And here I thought some of the far lefties were pants-pissers.

You guys make Bambi look Butch.

Sorry, 41 blame the DNC. My mistake

#25 | Posted by kanrei

See? -Corky's palm.

I believe we're laughing at you dude.

Fuck, corky, lose the word "whiner" (along with "cognitive dissonance') you fucking herd follower. Try thinking for yourself for a change.

And you make Michelle look like she has competition.

This is an interesting poll.

Everyone is sick of the partisan nonsense. It appears each side is blaming the other, thus the 48-41 results. The President is still seen as a good guy stuck in a DNC/RNC war and Healthcare is DOA at 31% approval. Very mixed messages.

...nobody wants to see Corky get off like this.

No one could see corky get off

From the Poll:

an equal 61 percent complain that both Democrats and Republicans in Congress aren't willing to compromise.

the percentage who believe the country is headed in the wrong direction now stands at 58 percent, the highest level of Obama's presidency.

the number believing [Obama's] health care plan is a good idea declined two points to 31 percent.

Voters who are most interested in November's midterms prefer a Republican-controlled Congress by a 49-41 percent margin.

Check the fine print of the poll results. All the respondents were democratic house members and senators as they headed for the exit.

With Republicans being blamed for not finding solutions to our problems 48-43 compared to Dems

Its interesting if accurate, since the Republicans are in such a minority its not their responsibility to find solutions to our problems. The 2006 and 2008 elections were Americans saying they didn't want the GOP in charge of that at the time.

Republicans winning Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts (yeah I know the line its the peoples seat, not his... horseshit, that was the Kennedy's seat) to me says that Republicans are the more motivated and pissed off party. Plus if the Democrats (especially the base) get more pissed off (they're already pretty pissed) then they're either going to vote third party or stay home.

Come November it all really depends on Obama's approval rating and the economy if there's going to be a massive switch.

No one could see corky get off

#32 | Posted by goatman

I'll bet Hillary remembers until Corky switched his order at KFC to all dark.

The Democrats blame the Republicans. The Republicans blame the Democrats. The clowns are running the circus.

The federal government is BROKE! Is that so hard to understand. I'll say it again. BROKE!!!

They have the same two options they had for the past 30 years. Take a depression now. Or take a worse depression later. They always take option two. We're screwed.

I'll bet Hillary remembers until Corky switched his order at KFC to all dark.

He's still boneless, though

lose the word "whiner"

...he whined.

OK, in your case, how about "loneley old rig dweller forever in search of a chat room"?

This isn't one, you freak show.

...chat room"?

This isn't one, you freak show.

You talkin' to me?

Nice post, Rob.

Nite, chillens.

Nite, Gunga.

Luv ya'. Don't let the bedbugs bite

Or tomorrows polls......

Gives a whole new meaning to poll dancing....

Keep in mind the poll has a plus/minus of 3.5 percentage points. Not sure why Corky is all giddy about a statistical tie.

Did Corky bother to look at the rest of the polls numbers? Like the fact only 31% are now in favor of the HC reform? Or the fact only 5% say Obama has spent enough time talking about the economy? How about the 58% number who think the Country is heading in the wrong direction? They may blame the repubs, but they still prefer a republican controlled Congress by a 49-41 margin.

Nah, Corky should have clipped that part. The shit will hit the fan if her handlers catch this act of maleficence.

No solutions are better than bad solutions.

You must be drinking from the same stupid fountain that your Party Leaders do. Mass. wasn't B.O.'s fault, but a mandate of his Fiscally Responsible policies. Pelosi and Reid's stellar approval ratings along with Chocolate Carter's only reenforce your position. What a dunce.

#10 | Posted by wisgod

Sure thing.

"The federal government is BROKE! Is that so hard to understand. I'll say it again. BROKE!!!"

Keep hoping Ray, maybe the sky will fall soon.

It looks like us Wisconsinites are going to do our part to fix it. Tommy Thompson vs. Russ Feingold, hopefully.

NBC poll? NBC where 85% of the viewers are Democrats? NBC, that has nothing but praise and adoration for "The One"? That NBC? LMAO

"...while the number believing his health care plan is a good idea declined two points to 31 percent."

So less than 1 in 3 think it's a good idea, but what the hell. It's not like they work for us.

"So less than 1 in 3 think it's a good idea, but what the hell. It's not like they work for us."

Sort of explains the election in MA where they already have thier own plan which is better than the Senate bill.

NBC poll?

Yeah, those dirty Commies at the Wall Street Journal!

(deja vu post)

-31 percent

Because both conservatives and libs have problems with the compromise package.

57 percent still favor a public option, if that tells you anything.

The gist of this poll though, is that the people don't blame Obama.... that the GNOP propaganda about the problems and the solutions is falling mostly on deaf ears, as people rightly blame the GOP and slightly less Dems, and Obama is blamed only by the usual suspect 23-27 percenters who hate him no matter what he does.

Obama still had political capitol in the form of popularity, and Congressional Dems have to feel better that this new poll taked after MA shows that the public hasn't been fooled by GNOP spin of said election.

Cork,

Time will tell when it comes to November of this year.

A lot can happen - but right now the Dems are on a horrible trajectory.

Don't read too much into this poll.

Look at what happened in Mass. as a wake-up call.

Maybe you're right Corky. Why blame Obama? He didn't author the House or Senate version of the Health Care Bill. Come to think of it, other than giving a daily speech and pissing away $783B, he really hasn't done much of anything, has he?

I guess the poll did ask anyone from NJ, Virginia, or Mass.

- Dems are on a horrible trajectory

All politics is still local, and there were, as Brown indicated, local issues that were more important to voters than national ones.

One should remember that Brown voted for Romney-care, and 80 percent of MA like it.

This poll shows just what I said above, that blaming Obama isn't working, and blaming Repubes is because their tactics are so obvious, Party over bipartisanship and solutions.

You better start working on your "Republicans take control of the Senate" excuses, Cork. Don't put it off until the last minute.

America needs to blame the people who want to ruin America. That would be the GOP. They are rotten MF's that only care about themselves. It's time the Dems exposed them as ignorant fools.

-pissing away $783B

Most of which has yet to be spent, and economists estimate that unemployment would be around 13 percent without what has been spent.

The real problem with that package is that it wasn't bigger. Deficit spending is important to recovery in recession, Keynesian economics 101.

"Republicans take control of the Senate"

Not even the most ardent wingnut really thinks that will happen.... except in their wet dreams.

But I guess when today's news is bad, it's always easier to predict the glorious future.

This just proves that 48% of the people aren's smart enough to 'get' the GOP message.

"57 percent still favor a public option, if that tells you anything."

It helps explain why MA voters rejected Coakley, she wasn't able to offer them anything they didn't already have.

#67 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2010-01-27 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag: Girls are stupid, that's why they don't like me

Deficit spending is important to recovery in recession, Keynesian economics 101.

Borrowed money has to be paid back with interest. Common sense 101

Posted by danni

Also, the MA Senate and House had several recent corruption cases that Brown said influenced local voters his way.

Besides that Coakley was apparently a poor candidate on the trail.... when she went on the trail.

Didn't democrats lose seats in 3 out of the last 4 elections?

I guess voters need an economics lesson.

Not even the most ardent wingnut really thinks that will happen....

I know it will happen, corky. Are you really willing to admit publicly that you are so stupid that you think the political pendulum has stopped swinging and is now stuck to the left forever? LOL Read some history, boy. That pendulum has been swinging from the left to the right and the right to the left forever and will continue to do so.

I've never seen blind allegiance to a party make a person as gullible as yours to the democrats has made you, corky.

But I guess when today's news is bad, it's always easier to predict the glorious future.

#66 | Posted by Corky

Bwahahaha. If this is bad news, I'll bet you've come close to putting one in your ear in the last 2 weeks.

"It helps explain why MA voters rejected Coakley, she wasn't able to offer them anything they didn't already have."

Like overpriced health insurance, doctor shortages, increased wait times for care, etc...?

At least the poll shows folks putting a lot of blame where it belongs - CONGRESS.

I have a feeling that both sides will be shaken, not stirred, in November. As is, McCain is trying to threaten Hayworth out of the race and using his committee seat to file complaints about everything the man does (or plans to do).

The likelihood of Dems losing some seats is almost inevitable in an off election year, especially
with incumbents of both Parties in trouble,

But to lose as large a majority as they have?

That would take a major upheaval that only lame chat room aficionados would expect.

I guess voters need an economics lesson.

#73 | Posted by mysterytoy

High taxes are good for a stable economy.

"Deficit spending is important to recovery in recession, Keynesian economics 101."

True...but Keynes ALSO said to retire the debt in prosperous times. We just never stopped deficit spending. That applies to BOTH parties busily finding new entitlements to buy votes.

#79

When Obama first introduced the stimulus plan, Bubba said that it would work as long as Obama knew when to shut down the spending spicket to avoid inflationary repercussions..... and had confidence that he would.

We aren't anywhere near close enough to actual recovery to worry about deficits that are now helpful to recovery.

But to lose as large a majority as they have?

That would take a major upheaval that only lame chat room aficionados would expect.

They still have over ten months to fuck things up worse than they already are. No one snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a democrat. Even democrats (except probably you, corky) will admit that.

Most of which has yet to be spent, and economists estimate that unemployment would be around 13 percent without what has been spent.
Posted by Corky

The same ones who claimed it wouldn't go over 8% with it? If your goal is to look as foolish as B.O's talking heads, mission accomplished

Most of which has yet to be spent, and economists estimate that unemployment would be around 13 percent without what has been spent.

You think anyone believes this horse shit aside from you? How about some concrete data for a change?

(Cue non-sequitur about my name, 'cause Corky got nothin'...)

That would take a major upheaval that only lame chat room aficionados would expect.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 09:48 AM |

As Harry Hoo used to say..."Amazing"

But Republicans continue to enjoy a significant enthusiasm advantage. Voters who are most interested in November's midterms prefer a Republican-controlled Congress by a 49-41 percent margin.

"We aren't anywhere near close enough to actual recovery to worry about deficits that are now helpful to recovery."

Again true...but every time we get close, the pols come up with new programs, more spending, bigger government and more deficits. It has been an endless spiral and it's never gonna end. Well, it WILL end but I probably won't be around to see the crash.

#70 | Posted by goatman

Deficit spending is important to recovery in recession, Keynesian economics 101.

----------------------

I think we will finally lay this stupid theory to rest.

The last time they tried this was during the Great Depression, Liberals say it worked, and Conservatives say it was WWII that pulled us out. Now we have nothing to cloud the issue, it's just Keynesian economics, being practiced now.

As long as the Democrats keep practicing Keynesian economics the unemployment rate will not drop.

"You think anyone believes this horse shit aside from you?"
#83 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2010-01-27 10:02 AM

Not even the WH believes that anymore. Hell they have pulled the transparency rug out and, will no longer post how many jobs were saved or created by the dems stimulus. I think they will now do it on a quarterly basis, which gives them time to spin the numbers good or bad.

Please don't attribute that stupid "deficit spending" quote to me. That was C&Ped from corky's post

People who think the WH has control over Congressional transparency need to read their Constitution again.

So, all I read above is wingnuts who, if Obama walked on water would say it was because he couldn't swim, saying that Dems will manage to fuck it up, not to worry.

Proud 27 percenters, eh?

-significant enthusiasm advantage

Also known as fearmongered frenzies of anti-intellectualism fueled by culture war distractions.

Poor Corky, Beaten like a dirty rug and now has the buck bucks. Typical Lib.

...a dirty rug....

Good euphemism for someone who gets walked all over all day, every day

Deficit spending is not necessarily a bad thing in economic recession or slowdown.It's HOW the spending goes that is the key. This "stimulus" package we have now is a friggin' joke. All those billions are just going to reward supporters and buy more votes. Reducing taxes would create a short term deficit but would encourage businesses to expand, research more products, hire more people etc., etc. Of course, that wouldn't be as effective for procuring votes as rewarding supporters.
AGAIN...Keynes never intended that deficit spending should be a PERMANENT condition. His theory called for retiring debt in good times INSTEAD of inventing new programs for votes. Keynes also would have allowed GM, AIG, Chrysler to declare bankruptcy too. We've never really followed Keynesian economics in the U.S. because we've always had too much government interference.

"Also known as fearmongered frenzies of anti-intellectualism fueled by culture war distractions."

Funny, you started this thread, and now you whine like a little bitch because you don't like the rest of the survey? What is even more laughable, is the fact you eagerly posted a poll number that was a tie if one uses the margin of error.

Now we have nothing to cloud the issue, it's just Keynesian economics, being practiced now.

As long as the Democrats keep practicing Keynesian economics the unemployment rate will not drop.

#86 | Posted by 90c2cab

It's all the Republicans fault! If they would just agree with us, well, um, uh........it wouldn't be all our fault it failed......

You can always tell the loser... the premature self-proclamation of "victory" always gives it away.

Corky writes his posts using a teleprompter.

In the end, it's the fault of Obama, Reid and Pelosi for not putting together some legislation that 60 Democrats can agree on. Republicans have opposed the Dems' legislation - but if the legislation wasn't so extreme they wouldn't need any Republican votes in the first place.

Remember the good old days when both parties worked together to make a better America rather than trying to tear each other apart and bring this country down?

In fighting by a bunch of losers with a majority and then blaming the minority party who's votes didn't matter for not getting anything done. Can't make this shit up.

People who think the WH has control over Congressional transparency need to read their Constitution again.

President Jack Ryan was elected for the hope and change he inspired. Congress had an approval rating in the 20's last Novemeber; Jack Ryan's was in the high 70's. He is the face of the Federal gov't and sets the tone. When he goes on TV people watch; People don't care what Pelosi and Rei have to say. President Jack Ryan sets the tone. He could have easily said to the American people that he will not sign any bill not debated in public.

Repubes put up 80 something amendments to the Senate bill alone, had them voted on, and some passed.

Then they did what they intended all along, and stalled for a couple of months and didn't vote for the Bill.

Bipartisanship was offered by the Dems.... practically dating moderate Repubes who were just a stalking horse for the Party of No whose only plan was to defeat the Pres, not to find solutions.

Which is, surprisingly enough, reflected in this poll of people who aren't fooled by their tactics, who don't blame Obama, but do blame the GNOP.

You can always tell the loser... the premature self-proclamation of "victory" always gives it away.
#96 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 10:26 AM |

You can always tell one has shoved their size nine foot in their mouth, or never bothered to read the entire article. But hey you found one portion to your liking, of course it didn't mean shit.

"What a dunce
Oh man! The crybabies are defensive tonight.
Sorry. Did I rip your cherry there, sweetheart?"
#15 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-26 08:42 PM

"Well, I see that you whiners can't take a little bad news in the polls without falling apart.
And here I thought some of the far lefties were pants-pissers.
You guys make Bambi look Butch."
#26 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-26 08:52 PM

The good ole days when they WERE working together was when the government spending was the catalyst for cooperation because the Republicans had to PAY the Democrats to cooperate and get bills passed. The Republicans should never have sailed along with the Democrats on their spending habits. They are both out of control and you people who think the status quo is "okay" have a blindfold on AND your head in the sand.

Nice quotes.

But I got used to fending off cheap shots from all sides during the primary, and it's much easier, and just as much fun, now.

The one portion I found to my liking?

The 48-43 is close..... the 27 percent who blame Obama?

Most of them are right here, and show how little they have in common with most of America with every lame post they make.

#98 Joe said "Remember the good old days when both parties worked together to make a better America rather than trying to tear each other apart and bring this country down?"
Ha!
The good ole days when they were "working together" was when the government spending was the catalyst for cooperation because the Republicans had to trade concessions to allow the Democrats to continue their spending habits without fiscal responsibility in order the Democrats to cooperate and thereby get bills passed during a Republican administration. The spending the Republicans did was to BUY cooperation of the Democrats!!! The Republicans should never have sailed along with the Democrats on their spending habits. They are both out of control and now the left is beginning to wake up to the call of the tea party patriots -- this is what it's all about folks! You guys are just mad you didn't think of it first!!

"Repubes put up 80 something amendments to the Senate bill alone, had them voted on, and some passed."

"Then they did what they intended all along, and stalled for a couple of months and didn't vote for the Bill."

Did Harry offer hundreds of million dollars in bribes to their states? Seeing as that was the only way to get a handful of dems to vote yes, would you have been OK with buying repubs votes?

What? Are you a virgin?

Please name a major Congressional Bill in US history that ever passed without this kind of deal making?

Actually, this time the most notorious deal for Nelson was changed at Nelson' request when he got so much shit for it..... which is reflective of at least some change in the environment.

The one portion I found to my liking?

The 48-43 is close..... the 27 percent who blame Obama?
#105 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 10:42 AM

Yup!!!!

With Republicans being blamed for not finding solutions to our problems 48-43 compared to Dems, and a suprising,rationally low 27 percent blaming the President, you might wish Nov were farther away.
#6 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-26 08:13 PM

"fearmongered frenzies "

Speaking of... how do you think will be the new bad guys in tonights SOTU?

Wonder if he'll trot out the saved or created bit tonight... Are they counting census jobs as "created" too?

Actually, this time the most notorious deal for Nelson was changed at Nelson' request when he got so much shit for it..... which is reflective of at least some change in the environment.

#108 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 10:49 AM

So we should ignore the fact it blew up in his face and credit him for seeing the errors of his ways? BTW.. The question was, would you be OK with the repubs voting yes, like the handful of dems who held out for "concessions"? Seeing as you don't like the word "bribe"...

#109

So, now you are down to just babbling, Crispee Critter?

Oh, wait... never mind.

#22 | POSTED BY SPOKANEJIM

93 percent believe there's too much partisan infighting
48 percent blame the GOP
43 percent blame the DNC

It is going to be a very interesting November.

WOW -- finally waking up to the whole point of the tea party. The government is out of control and we the people have no representation -- it is clear that whomever is in office is going to do what they damn well please because they wrongfully assume that we elected them for their decision making ability.

#111

What? Are you a virgin?

Please name a major Congressional Bill in US history that ever passed without this kind of deal making?

I don't mind repeating myself.

#109
So, now you are down to just babbling, Crispee Critter?

Oh, wait... never mind.
#112 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 10:54 AM

I believe those were your posts. I only added the "yup" and you claim I was babbling? Did I rip your cherry sweatheart? lol

Needs repeating obviously, since Dorky is still stuck on the 48% number and still manages to delude himself into believing that the American public wants this silly health care bill.

an equal 61 percent complain that both Democrats and Republicans in Congress aren't willing to compromise.

the percentage who believe the country is headed in the wrong direction now stands at 58 percent, the highest level of Obama's presidency.

the number believing [Obama's] health care plan is a good idea declined two points to 31 percent.

Voters who are most interested in November's midterms prefer a Republican-controlled Congress by a 49-41 percent margin.

Please name a major Congressional Bill in US history that ever passed without this kind of deal making?

I don't mind repeating myself.
#114 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-27 10:56 AM

Usually the deal making involves the other party. So far Harry only offered concessions to the dems. Now if you can link anything close to the hundreds of millions to one repub, I will happily shut my piehole.

#93 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Deficit spending is not necessarily a bad thing in economic recession or slowdown.It's HOW the spending goes that is the key.
----------------
That is the flaw with all Liberal philosophy's they don't account for human nature or human psychology, and Conservatives recognize this.

Anybody who thought Congress was going to do the right thing when given bundles of money, doesn't understand hummans.

-still manages to delude himself into believing that the American public wants this silly health care bill.

Strawman. You'd think there would be enough to argue about what I have said without making up stuff I didn't.

Or, if you aren't bright enough to discern the difference, my apologies.

-Usually the deal making involves the other party.

You asked me, "would you have been OK with buying repubs votes?", and I pointed out that it has never been done differently.

Were you as concerned about special interests bribing Congress as the sausage making they do among themselves, you might have some credibility on the issue.

Bipartisanship was offered by the Dems

Too bad the American people don't buy that bullshit. The Dems will live and die by this legislation. Good luck convincing seniors medicare cuts are in their best interests

"You asked me, "would you have been OK with buying repubs votes?", and I pointed out that it has never been done differently.'

So link where Harry offered the same concessions to repubs as he did to the handful of dems?

"Poll: 48% Blame GOP for Failing to Solve Problems"

Poll: 52% Blame Democrats for Failing to Solve Problems

The Dems voted for the Bill with said concessions, the Repubes prefered trying to defeat the Pres to trying to find solutions with or without concessions.

Which is why the American people blame them and not Obama.

So, your "point" is that if Repubes were offered the same concessions that Dems were, they would have voted for the Bill?

Uh-huh.

Poll: 52% Blame Democrats for Failing to Solve Problems

#122 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-01-27 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Now we know who stole Verm's calculator.

Poll: 100% of people think Eddie should STFU and go cook us a meal.

But I got used to fending off cheap shots from all sides during the primary, and it's much easier, and just as much fun, now.

Posted by Corky

And you look just as pathetic as you did prior to jumping off the pantsuit wagon when you knew you lost.

125 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2010-01-27 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag: WFFF! (Way Fuckin' Funny Flag!)

Wissy, has wifey hidden the Midol again?

I think the most retarded people in the world are those who look at a poll regarding Congress and then use that poll to discuss the Executive branch. Fucking morons.

Wissy, has wifey hidden the Midol again?

#127 | Posted by Corky

Now Corky is wee wee'd up and adds a childish wifey midol dig. What's next, a jab at my parents?

"the Repubes prefered trying to defeat the Pres to trying to find solutions with or without concessions."

I thought you posted the Repubs had more than 80 amendments voted on and some passed.

Well, Wissy. You started calling me names last night out of the blue and haven't stopped since so I am just concerned for your health.

btw, yer Mom wears a Chairporn 101 tattoo.... just sayin'.

I think the most retarded people in the world are those who look at a poll regarding Congress and then use that poll to discuss the Executive branch. Fucking morons.

#128 | Posted by taxman

Sorry if the truth hurts son but most people in America could not tell you who the minority leaders in the House or the Senate are. Millions of Americans don't even know who their Congressman is. Obama is the face of the gov't. Perhaps if he wasn't on TV so often he could hide better

Sorry if the truth hurts son but most people in America could not tell you who the minority leaders in the House or the Senate are. Millions of Americans don't even know who their Congressman is.

Sad isn't it.

btw, yer Mom wears a Chairporn 101 tattoo.... just sayin'.

#131 | Posted by Corky

Bravo!

#130 Getting weaker and weaker, almost ready to fold.

-I thought you posted the Repubs had more than 80 amendments voted on and some passed.

They did, while they were stalling. But I also said they had no intention of voting for what they were amending... they were just stalling for time.

Mass. wasn't B.O.'s fault, but a mandate of his Fiscally Responsible policies.

No, there were almost as many pissed that the health bill didn't go far enough as there were that it exists and that jobs weren't being created fast enough. GOPpers have no solutions for jobs, other than ship them offshore and Pelosi and Reid take the hit for fumbling health care. since the majority seem to want health care reform, maybe you can explain the GOP plan.

"They did, while they were stalling. But I also said they had no intention of voting for what they were amending... they were just stalling for time."

You said earlier the repubs offered no solutions. Yet we know some of the repubs amendments were passed. Is it possible some of the passed amendments had merit? Or are you saying the dems were too stupid to realize they were just stalling and still approved some?

- maybe you can explain the GOP plan.

They offered no meaningful solutions, as the American people have noted, just used a stalling tactic, fiddling while Rome burns.

If the Dems voted with them on a couple of amendments to try to make them feel relevant, so what?

The only health care "plan", 4 pages I think it was, that they submitted to the CBO was laughed out of existence.

No, there were almost as many pissed that the health bill didn't go far enough as there were that it exists and that jobs weren't being created fast enough. GOPpers have no solutions for jobs, other than ship them offshore and Pelosi and Reid take the hit for fumbling health care...
#136 | Posted by northguy3 at 2010-01-27 11:41 AM

Maybe that 51% and 5% numbers suggest why there are no jobs.

However, the poll also suggests the public wants Obama to refocus his priorities: 44 percent say he has given too much attention to health care, 16 percent say he's given it too little attention and 38 percent say he's given it the right amount.

On the other hand, 51 percent maintain he's given the economy too little attention, compared with only 5 percent who say he's given it too much attention and 42 percent who say he's given it the right amount of attention.

So who thinks the Dems will gain seats and who thinks they will lose seats this year?

"If the Dems voted with them on a couple of amendments to try to make them feel relevant, so what?"

Oh I see, the dems were taking the high road and didn't care if the amendments were good or bad. Does that really make sense to you?

Those parts of the poll reflect how successful the GNOP Party of NO plan of defeating the Pres instead of finding solutions was in throwing the timing for health care off until after the summer.

Had there been a vote then, jobs and financial reform wold have been the subject all fall.

But, nooooo... the GNOP scare tactics frightened just enough Indies into buyer's remorse.... thereby threatening Blue dog seats and stalling health care.

Great for people more interested in ideologically based political power than solving problems.

#142 Some of their amendments may have bettered the Bill. Happy now?

Or do you want to play "Joe the Pettifogger" some more?

"#142 Some of their amendments may have bettered the Bill. Happy now?'

I was just trying to figure out how the repubs offered no solutions, yet had amendments passed.

I was just trying to figure out how the repubs offered no solutions, yet had amendments passed.

#145 | Posted by crispee_oc

Corky reminds me of a dull Jiffy Ice Drill spinning on some frozen lake in the Northwoods. Not making any head way, just spinning and blowing smoke.

well gee yes, this poll has to be accuratre since it claarly explains why massachusetts put in a republican

Well, looks like Crispee gave up pettifogging his point, and Wissy, as usual, never had one.

"Well, looks like Crispee gave up pettifogging his point, and Wissy, as usual, never had one."

Yeah I was pettifogging. Problem with you is that I was using your exact words. According to you, on one hand the repubs had nothing to offer, but on the other hand they offered amendments which were passed by the dems. Oh that's right, they passed those out of the kindness of their hearts so they can feel relevant? You are fucking riot Corky.

To be honest, blame should be equally apportioned. The Democratic leadership for being spineless. The Republicans for being slimy and regularly resorting to tactics which the Dems only occasionally or rarely ever used against GWB.

Failing to solve? Try creating the fucking mess in the first place. The same scumbag mindset that only care about the health of finance are running the country under Obama as under Shrub and Clinton. They are unproductive leaches that skim profits from the economies productive sectors and continue to make policy which includes keeping taxpayers on the hook for scumbag fraud and highly leveraged greed gone awry. When you lost half your 401K, they made a killing. Then to add insult to injury, they were handed $13 trillion with no conditions. Lock 'em all up, fraudsters, regualtors and politicians. Disgorge their ill gotten gains.

am willing to vote all senators and Representatives out of office, regardless of party affiliation. It's time for new blood.

According to the heading at the top of the thread, "27 percent blame the president for not being able to find solutions to the country's problems...."

Well within the margin of error to account for the Twenty-Six Percenters.

Funny, you started this thread, and now you whine like a little bitch because you don't like the rest of the survey? What is even more laughable, is the fact you eagerly posted a poll number that was a tie if one uses the margin of error.

That margin of error swings both ways. That's why the numbers came out the way they did. The significant factor is that it is too close to make blanket statements about a mid term election. Brown's win in Mass. was about one special election in a state that was fed up with the status quo there and Brown is a moderate republican anyway. They would never have voted for someone like Palin or Imhofe. There are other states that will have incumbents up for reelection and quite a few republicans so far are resigning. When people are dissatisfied with their elected officials they tend to vote out incumbents and their parties.

Republicans have become a party of obstructionist and people want change, not the same old soup and sandwich every day. The republicans won't have a chance in November if they can't come up with something better then just saying no to everything.

I blame Republicans. Had they done what we sent them to Washington to do over 10 years ago, we wouldn't have these problems today. And for that matter, the Dumbos wouldn't be running things.

Term limits. Balanced budgets. Small government. Shut down Fannie and Freddie. Entitlement spending reform.

But no. Republicans acted like Democrats, and so now we're in a depression.

MSNBC poll, are you fu*king kidding me?

MSNBC doesn't do their own polling. They hire firms to do it.