Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Mary Carmichael: When I decided to have my first child, my friends who were already parents warned me that I'd soon have someone constantly making demands of me, someone who didn't care about my autonomy, dignity, or privacy. Sadly, they didn't mean the baby. As soon as I began showing, my health was no longer solely my business. Why do we treat women's bodies as public property when they're pregnant?

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Somebody laid the poll to her...

She would rather have the government tell her what she can and can't do.....

"Could the proposed health-care bill have prevented some of America's biggest public health crises?"
www.newsweek.com

The author seems like the snooty type who goes out of her way to be offended and the reason she had so many problems probably has more to do with the company she keeps than anything else. That you hang out with some jackass who asks you if you're lactating is your problem, not society's.

Americans are rude, noisome busy-bodies, for the most part.

The only thing you should say to a pregnant woman about her condition is "Congratulations" if you know her and nothing if you don't.

Women are always treated as objects by the vast majority on this planet...pregnant or not is irrelevant.

Using my suave communications skills I struck up a conversation with a business associate at group gathering several years ago. She had a clingy dress on and sported quite the pooch.

I'd just gotten done speaking with a woman who'd recently learned she was pregnant, so I had that on my mind when I spoke with this second woman.

"So when are you due?"...

Silence.

"No. I'm just fat."

We've remained friends over the years and that has never come up again. And, I might add, I've learned my lesson.

Thought this would be a Bristol "I'm not pregnant, I'm just full of joy" Palin article.

"Americans are rude, noisome busy-bodies, for the most part."

I've never met an American who makes negative generalizations about "Americans" who isn't a miserable tool whose real problem is not with Americans but other people in general.

I think the author of this article is just too easily offended and/or simply has rude friends.

The reason why so many conversations are struck regarding it are a) virtually everyone can relate in some way; b) pregnant couples often talk constantly about pregnancy because it is such a major life altering experience; and c)it is blatantly obvious to the observer and unlike having a cast or stitches, people are generally happy to be pregnant and want to talk about it.

Some people are just rude, regardless of the subject.

I was in agreement for most of what she said until I read No one knows what the exact effect of a (singular, one) glass of wine is on a fetus.

So if there is no science to tell you what the exact effect is, that must mean it's alright. Author sounds as ignorant as the people she's trying to insult.

I've never met an American who makes negative generalizations about "Americans" who isn't a miserable tool

Why do you guys have to make every thread about me?

Why do we treat women's bodies as public property when they're pregnant?

A large chunk of the nation thinks a womb isn't private property, but rather a foster home for a future subject of the State, and one from which she cannot evict a tenant at will.

We have more rights in our homes than in our bodies. Which is nonsensical, since everyone's ultimate "home" is their skin.

I was in agreement for most of what she said until I read No one knows what the exact effect of a (singular, one) glass of wine is on a fetus.

So if there is no science to tell you what the exact effect is, that must mean it's alright. Author sounds as ignorant as the people she's trying to insult.

Actually there is some pretty good science on a single glass of wine. And the effect is... nothing. It's harmless.

And even if it weren't harmless, how is it your business?

The science you refer to is for non-pregnant individuals, and you're probably right, it probably isn't my business, but if I see someone doing something harmful to someone that can't protect themselves (whether it be a group of people teasing someone, or someone getting mugged), I'm not going to turn a blind eye.

The point is she admits she doesn't know the science behind a glass of wine, she knows there's a chance that it could harm her baby, but she does it anyways. If she wants to be selfish and drink a glass of wine every now and then, despite not having any idea what it may or may not do to her baby, I say go for it, it's a free country. Just don't expect me to condone her behavior.

"Why do you guys have to make every thread about me?"

If you're joking that's pretty funny.

If you're not, it is still pretty funny.

Seriously? This is a problem? Talking about your pregnancy? I would be more concerned as to why strangers (we are talking family planning rights here) think they can CONTROL your body and your medical decisions regarding your pregnancy.

Some people are just rude, regardless of the subject.

Oh yeah? Well fuck you too!

/sarc

Here's a mother who really cares;

www.snopes.com

Take your spamming elsewhere BILL777 we don't want your pharmacy ads here. The guy should be banned.

I once committed the unpardonable sin of asking a woman suffering from fibroid tumors "when she was due". She never forgave me.

Meh, hormones.

Pregnancy brain is an oddish phenom.

Let her vent.

Be Well.

Geez Mrs. McCormick...lighten up...or stay indoors. Yes, some folks are ill-mannered and too intrusive. Some are respectful and some are just curious.

Both my pregnancies were public...hell, my belly was soooo hugh people often asked if I was having twins each time. Nope, thank goodness...just an ample supply of amniotic fluids, thank you very much.

My belly was so big I had to get clearance from air traffic control before rolling over in bed.

Interesting observation reading some of these posts.

She's pissed at constantly getting unwanted advice & attention from random strangers and is speaking up about it. Which, in an oddly amusing way, is pretty much exactly like everyone here...

The mantra of DR is "prove it" and if no iron-clad proof is given, it's not true.

I've seen no iron-clad proof that drinking a glass or two of wine or a bit of caffeine is harmful, yet some are bashing her for doing so....excessive yes, but a glass or two a day?

Nah, the human body's way more resilient than that, even a fetus's...otherwise, we'd have died out as a species long ago....even the most obtuse should be able to appreciate that fact.

It's frigging amusing to watch though.

People become very critical of every move an expectant mother makes and some of those people don't keep it to themselves but feel that they have a right to offer it to the mom to be.

When I was pregnant with my oldest child, my husband and in laws went out to dinner at a little local restaurant.

We were waiting for our food when in walked my OB with his wife and they sat at the table right behind us. My doctors back was to my back.

As our food came, I reached across the table to grab the salt and my doctor leaned back and said...do you REALLY think you need that??

I said...Dang....how did you DO that??? You MUST have eyes in the back of your head!!

lol

Now, granted..he was my doctor but expecting moms get that kind of stuff all the time!

Oh it doesn't end with pregnancy...I can't tell you how many times I have gotten unwanted advice concerning raising my child, especially from people who don't have any kids of their own.

And as a single father of a little girl you can't imagine the condescension that can come from women in general and their assumption that A) I know nothing about taking care of a house and B) I know nothing about girls growing and am therefore useless..

Granted there are things I won't know because I am a male and not a female but too often they go way over the line.

I think it's part and parcel of an old-time Chauvinist attitude that blames women for getting raped because of the clothes they wear, rather than blaming psychopathic rapists.

If those dumb bitches would just dress more conservatively they wouldn't get raped.

"If those dumb bitches would just dress more conservatively they wouldn't get raped.

Posted by JeffJ"

And those damn seductive rabbits too.......

If those dumb bitches would just dress more conservatively they wouldn't get raped.

Precisely the attitude I was referring to.

Look, women are so clueless they can't even dress themselves without inducing rape. Surely they can't expect to manage a pregnancy all on their own. Thankfully the men in society (who know so much about pregnancy) are here to tell them how to dress, and how to be pregnant when they do eventually get raped, as is their natural fate anyway.

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