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Monday, January 18, 2010

So where is NATO? LOL

A while ago, at least Kabul was protected. Now, however, one can see how the taliban have gained in strength and confidence.

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So where is NATO? LOL

I tried to email you earlier when you posted "LOL" in response to an incident where U.S. troops were killed in Afghanistan, but your address was fake.

This kind of shit isn't allowed here any more, dude. I'm tired of cleaning up the messes you create by intentionally angering people with inflammatory anti-American rhetoric. This is your last warning. The next comment like "LOL" will be your last on this site.

Good call, Sheriff.

Constantly laughing about American troop deaths should be over the line. Next, maybe it will be Jew-bashing, race-baiters like GLN.

but your address was fake.

This one?

drudge.cht@gishpuppy.com

It works fine. I get emails from people here on it all the time.

So RCADE... I found your limit. Let me tell you, I'm impressed.... on any of the blogs I have had control over, I would've tossed me out much much earlier. You have been a far more tolerant mod than I.

I'll control myself, no worries.

"I'll control myself, no worries...."

Care to apologize for making light of American combat deaths?

Or would an apology stretch your self-control muscles a wee bit too much?

He doesn't have to apologize IMHO Zed. He feels how he feels. We (not you or I, but many Americans) mock the deaths of those not us. Nationalism is wrong, but natural.

I'll control myself, no worries.

Wasn't expecting that reaction. Thanks.

I respect your points, KANREI. But my small town has buried more than it's share of war dead. These were people everyone knew on some level.

Zed,
I think Tosser has not dealt with many Americans in his life and his concept of us comes mainly from movies and TV: we are not real people to him any more than most Arabs are just terrorists to most Americans who watch too many movies and TV. He is just cheering the deaths of the villains from his perspective. It just happens that those villains are us.

It gets made worse because now he is interacting with Americans on a regular basis, and most of us prove those beliefs he has right.

#1 | Posted by rcade

RCade, I know this kind. Let him stay and make a fool of himself. I don't care.

His kind are the ones educated and enjoying the "fruits" of the West and then ridiculing it by making shit up or exaggerating the truth.

It's only because he's frustrated by his own country being a shit hole and having NOTHING to be proud of.

I'm tired of this new generation of immigrant who take America for granted, come here and take take take, then shit and piss of anything American.

Fuck 'em! When America finally stops the global expansion, elements like what's in his country will begin to creep in and it will be the Dark Ages for the Middle East and Asia.

Tosser's not an immigrant. He's in Pakistan.


Tosser's not an immigrant. He's in Pakistan.

#12 | Posted by rcade

Oh, I thought he was educated here, at least. Well, ok.

If not, then he has every right to his opinion. But once American influence in his country is gone, his muslim brothers will be right behind him making sure he prays 5 times a day! LOL!!!

You are so screwed Tosser.

Being at the HQ ISAF base I had this gut feeling that at any time the security was going to collapse and we would be overrun. It was such a tiny base for how important it is.

Very scary.

I find it odd that mocking the deaths of americans can get you thrown off and the mocking of the deaths of innocents whether they be Iraqi, Afghani, Pakistani, Yemeni, Somali, Haitian, Palestinean, etc. does not warrant removal.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2010-01-18 02:33 PM | Never played tag!

Wasn't expecting that reaction. Thanks.

With me, you may expect the unexpected.

In pics:

news.bbc.co.uk

From what I can see, America has painted itself into a corner backing the most useless man in the world (who also is a drug dealer)... Karsick.

Do you think it's a coincidence that this happened a few days after Karsick's nominated people were rejected for the second time?

There be blood in the waters and the sharks are circling.

Also:

news.bbc.co.uk

Don't know who this guy is, but funny he thinks our defence depends on the US.

But once American influence in his country is gone,

Been there, done that. It was called the Pressler Amendment. The Soviets evacuate Afghanistan and suddenly Papa Bush noticed Pakistan had nukes, and then WHAMMO! Fourty years of continous Cold War aid grinds to a halt with the collapsing of the Soviet Union.

So..much...gratitude.

And only at the cost of brutalising and weaponising our entire society.

But once American influence in his country is gone, his muslim brothers will be right behind him making sure he prays 5 times a day!

No. His Muslim brothers will be behind him asking where do we get the spare parts for our F-16's from. The recent advertising of those Taikonauts should explain where weapons procurement shifted.

And as for the crazy Muslim part of the equation; sorry they don't scare us. They actually do show up at our doors inviting us for prayers.

I believe the appropriate response from us all has always been "Fuck OFF".

And if anybody shows up with guns to ask us about our Namaz habits, well Mister Tokarev, and Uncle Kalashnikov are there to stop them.

Now if only Pakistan and America were not trying to finger & molest each other...

The story of why both Tosser and I are viciously uncaring about casualties, is an open secret for anybody who wishess to google into the facts. I think there are enough of you to pick out the specific reasons why we really are people who couldn't care less about violent attacks as long as those doing the killing meet a bullet, bomb, blade or shell at the end.

We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

Since Mumbai I guess shoot and die suicide raids have become the new unfortunate terrorist fashion. September 11 spawned suicide bombings.

London was a copy of that. Now this weird raid, (and many like it through 2009) are a copy of the latest sad trend.

Apparently these must have been really disposable killers, cause the militants seem to have suffered a higher death toll than their victims. Loud and property damaging, but I guess in Kabul there is so little property to damage that if you hit it, the proportional damage is much higher.

Now if only Pakistan and America were not trying to finger & molest each other...

Thank you for the wonderful mental image of Zardari spooning Obama. Pardon me while I go puke up my dinner and then endure several more minutes of dry wretching.

It gets made worse because now he is interacting with Americans on a regular basis, and most of us prove those beliefs he has right.

#10 | Posted by kanrei

not funi at all...

I find it odd that mocking the deaths of americans can get you thrown off and the mocking of the deaths of innocents whether they be Iraqi, Afghani, Pakistani, Yemeni, Somali, Haitian, Palestinean, etc. does not warrant removal.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts

one presumes this is why "Avatar" is losing so much monies this year worldwide"

I believe the appropriate response from us all has always been "Fuck OFF".

Also "I'm Jewish. Who you?"

They never come back.

www.dawn.com

Also "I'm Jewish. Who you?"

Prolly more politer.

I was hinting at these guys about what your old pal nfp wrote about the klashan and Pakistan.

What did you ever mean that he's ok with it if ends quickly?

Audacious attacks by Taliban in Kabul: 12 dead

I guess its the sheer level of property damage that Kabul has not seen in a decade's time that's shocking.

Thank you for the wonderful mental image of Zardari spooning Obama. Pardon me while I go puke up my dinner and then endure several more minutes of dry wretching.

First off Funny Flag.

That's not that disturbing an image. I actually had a story concoted about the 50 or so years long "relationship" between Pakistan and the US with character dynamics working along their actaul age at the time.

See the US-Pakistan relationship began getting into seduction mode in 1952. So if you plot a story out using anthropomorphic characters, and make it erotic, in 1952 the US would be...176 years old. The seduction begins and Uncle Sam is a spry one seventy six years old. And Pakistan is...five.

And then in 1958 Pakistan has it's first military dictatorship and the United States is well and truly "inside" Pakistan.

Now Uncle Sam is 182 years old.
.............................. .Pakistan is 11.

Please proceed to be disturbed.

So RCADE... I found your limit. Let me tell you, I'm impressed.... on any of the blogs I have had control over, I would've tossed me out much much earlier. You have been a far more tolerant mod than I.
I'll control myself, no worries.
#4 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-01-18 11:26 AM

"Impressed"?! Sandnigger, please! You wouldn't know infiltration if it faked an orgasm.

"Now if only Pakistan and America were not trying to finger & molest each other..."

Thank you for the wonderful mental image of Zardari spooning Obama. Pardon me while I go puke up my dinner and then endure several more minutes of dry wretching.
#22 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-01-19 12:12 AM

Afghanistan is under occupation, and with Tosser attempting to deny Musharraf's involvement via BushCo many threads ago it's apparent the Pakistani military (ie Parliament) are in Americas false flag pocket with the civilians unaware of ISI activities. He also doesn't want to "believe" that any of the data "collected" from al Qaeda in Pakistan are plants to generate insurgency in Afghanistan. I find Tossers lack of faith disturbing.

What did you ever mean that he's ok with it if ends quickly?

If Nadeem Paracha is standing in the middle of the street and there is a truck headed for him, he will seriously think "What takes less effort.... crossing the street or getting squished? Which is over faster?"

That's him. His brain has a short-circuit.

Sandnigger

1. I'm not Arab.

2. If I was an Arab, I would flag that comment as racist.

You wouldn't know infiltration if it faked an orgasm.

Infiltration??? What are you talking about?

Afghanistan is under occupation, and with Tosser attempting to deny Musharraf's involvement via BushCo many threads ago it's apparent the Pakistani military (ie Parliament) are in Americas false flag pocket with the civilians unaware of ISI activities. He also doesn't want to "believe" that any of the data "collected" from al Qaeda in Pakistan are plants to generate insurgency in Afghanistan. I find Tossers lack of faith disturbing.

You'll just have to explain this in more detail... I am supposed to have said WHAT?

I have made no secret of the fact that I would love to see Afghanistan flattened.

It's the only way Pakistan will get some peace and quiet.

Problem is, America isn't very good at this "flattening" business. They are trying to build up "democracy" or some nonsense over there and failing at that too.

Pakistani military (ie Parliament)

Two completely different things.

Decide which you are talking about and then talk.

"Sandnigger"

1. I'm not Arab.
2. If I was an Arab, I would flag that comment as racist.

This was my little way of letting you know that I am not impressed with your lording other blogs or the way you worded that "apology". Otherwise, it's also intended to see what kind of skin you do possess - and it's not thin enough to be offended, which does please me immensely.

I don't use impolite terms lightly - nor would I distinguish whom is or is not Arab with that term merely to racially profile, just to offend.;]

It's hard not to like you, but you decidedly are a racist, you know.

"You wouldn't know infiltration if it faked an orgasm."

Infiltration??? What are you talking about?

This has much to do with the next "answers":

"Afghanistan is under occupation, and with Tosser attempting to deny Musharraf's involvement via BushCo many threads ago it's apparent the Pakistani military (ie Parliament) are in Americas false flag pocket with the civilians unaware of ISI activities. He also doesn't want to "believe" that any of the data "collected" from al Qaeda in Pakistan are plants to generate insurgency in Afghanistan. I find Tossers lack of faith disturbing."

You'll just have to explain this in more detail... I am supposed to have said WHAT?
#32 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-01-19 02:22 AM

You weren't interesting in discussing Musharaffs acendency into Pakistani Parliament a couple weeks ago when I asked you direct questions, but you did point me to where in his book I should examine. I'm not certain if you pieced either question or implication together yet.

I have made no secret of the fact that I would love to see Afghanistan flattened.
It's the only way Pakistan will get some peace and quiet.
Problem is, America isn't very good at this "flattening" business. They are trying to build up "democracy" or some nonsense over there and failing at that too.
#33 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-01-19 02:25 AM

This is the infiltration I was referring to. A "joint effort", if you will.

"Pakistani military (ie Parliament)"

Two completely different things.
Decide which you are talking about and then talk.
#34 | Posted by Tosser at 2010-01-19 02:28 AM

But as you were so quick to explain - the Parliament are comprised of generals and such - the very military "deciders" who are involving your ISI and Taliban in Afghanistan.

the Parliament are comprised of generals and such

I wish that were so!

No, the parliament is full of noodles, big landowners, stooges, women, women and more women.

Retired military people make up... I think... around 15% of people in the lower house and in the Senate.

Lawmakers are the last people to know what's what. *I* get to know what's what before they do. LOL

This is the infiltration I was referring to. A "joint effort", if you will.

If you are saying that Pakistan helped the US to get inside Afghanistan, well, of course we did. That is hardly a secret.

but you decidedly are a racist, you know.

In a good way.

All Asians are racist to some extent... in a good way, of course.

Like many believe that having a blonde in the family gives good fortune... you can call that racist too.

Like we used to make people from Nigeria lie down on baggage X-ray belt in the airport so we could see if they have drugs stuffed up their ass. You might call that racist too.

"I tried to email you earlier when you posted "LOL" in response to an incident where U.S. troops were killed in Afghanistan, but your address was fake.

This kind of shit isn't allowed here any more, dude. I'm tired of cleaning up the messes you create by intentionally angering people with inflammatory anti-American rhetoric. This is your last warning. The next comment like "LOL" will be your last on this site"

Bout time.

Bout time.

As I understand it, anti-American rhetoric of the military kind, is out.

That means anti-Pakistan rhetoric and anti-Islam rhetoric is also out.

I got what I wanted.

You should watch yourself now.

#30, by Redlightrobot

Ramble on, my friend.

Please proceed to be disturbed.

That was profoundly disturbing in more ways than one (as are many things involving 20th century history and pedophilia) ... yet somehow reading that made a little tea shoot out my nose.

Dear people of Haiti,

Fuck you.

Love,
~God

Guess that is now unacceptable?

You weren't interesting in discussing Musharaffs acendency into Pakistani Parliament

There's a reason for that. Its just not likely. Tosser and I like Musharraf; but the people in the majority province of Pakistan HATE him. If he tries to come back I'm pretty sure there are a couple of treason and murder cases waiting for him. Tosser and I if we were ever in the position to (we won't be) to advise him, would tell him "Don't come back, the hassle won't be worth it."

a couple weeks ago when I asked you direct questions, but you did point me to where in his book I should examine.

Look, the US has to work really, really hard to manipulate things inside Pakistan. US objectives involve changing Pakistan's basic security imperatives. The result is that when the US goes to work on this objective every body is aware of it and the US and its operatives are made to understand that it's actions are not only temporary; they can only continue as long as there is an armed 50,000 or so strong presence of US forces in Afghanistan with full air complement.

And even though Pakistan's security objectives fit the political definition of "conservatism", this does not mean that every liberal action is the result of US actions pulling the strings. Far from it. Throughout the Cold War era, US objectives operated in opposition to Pakistani liberalism. Now it happens that US interests and liberal ones coincide. Same way US interests and conservatism coincided in Pakistan during the cold war. This does not mean that neither of these strands can't operate independently of US power.

I'm not certain if you pieced either question or implication together yet.

I think I have. Your working from some Trotskyite position that anybody who internationally works with the United States is in complete thrall to them. Sorry, no. The US is betraying Pakistan in Afghanistan by trying to rebuild a government and a state independent of Pakistan. Pakistan is betraying the US by only going after the Taliban who want to topple the Pakistani state. Tosser might even say that the Pakistani Taliban is a partial creation of the US (stories of UK Chinooks flying in and ferrying out Qari Hussain, the Taliban's top kiddy suicide squads trainer); something I don't believe.
This mutual strategic betrayal is what I meant when I said Pakistan and the US should stop trying to finger and molest each other.

If you're implying that the Taliban are some sort of fake creation of the US and Pakisistan colluding together, sorry but you're wrong. They're real and they exist and they don't need Pakistan or the US to survive.

I think you're taking the completely opposite angle from the pro-war camp that there are no psycho's in Afghanistan whatsoever to fight. Sorry; too exteme RLR.

Pakistan exeists independent of the US (what was that I bolded up there about the nineties and the Prssler Amendment?)

The Taliban exists independently of Pakistan or the US.

And its in the hands of the US to decide who gets stronger, it, Pakistan or the Taliban, or some other combination.

Correction: Pressler Amendment

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