Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, January 14, 2010

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is not applying for up to $700 million in federal stimulus dollars for his state's education fund. "I will not commit Texas taxpayers to unfunded federal obligations or to the adoption of unproven, cost-prohibitive national curriculum standards and tests," Perry wrote in a letter.

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Taxers would only waste it on some wingnut like aflac.

"I will not commit Texas taxpayers to unfunded federal obligations or to the adoption of unproven, cost-prohibitive national curriculum standards and tests," Perry wrote. "Texas is on the right path toward improved education, and we would be foolish and irresponsible to place our children's future in the hands of unelected bureaucrats and special interest groups thousands of miles away in Washington, virtually eliminating parents' participation in their children's education."

Who's going to pick up the tab when the funds run out? I guess he's within his rights to do what he thinks best for his state, long term.

Some people will do anything to score political points with right wingers and Perry is no exception. What a completely selfish moron. I hope Hitchinson beats him, she'd be better for the people of Texas.

she'd be better for the people of Texas.

#3 | Posted by danni

I hope that other person wins. don't even know her name or her stand on any issues but i would rather see just about anyone else other than those two washington insiders.

Texans have no use for education. They know it all, already.

If you don't believe it, just ask one.

dey gonna clos da liberry blt

Her name is Kay Bailey Hutchison, and I do not think she is better for my state. Instead of worrying so much about Texas Danni, worry about your state. Secondly, You can't possibly know anything about this woman being as you don't even know her name. You just "like" her because you DONT like Perry.

Typical of you.

Personally, I get a kick out of this Palestinian Arab motherfucker trying to run on the Dem ticket.

You can see his ad at the top of the page.

I guess when he conceptualized his campaign, the idea of un-American, foreigner candidates with Muslim names and hostile to the traditional social and economic mores of the United States was still en vogue.

He airs ads claiming his election will end "business as usual" in a state full of good ole boys that has weathered the recession quite well due to its common sense tax and regulatory policies.

You can't help but feel kinda sorry for the guy and smile at how absolutely clueless he and his campaign managers are.

Hard-left Muslim empty-suit punk politicians don't have very long coat-tails in America---much less Texas.

God Bless Texas.

"hostile to the traditional social and economic mores of the United States"

"Farouk Shami is a and self-made businessman from Houston. He came to America 44 years ago with $71 in his pocket and achieved the American dream. He's built a company based in Houston that has created thousands of jobs in Texas, including 1,200 new manufacturing jobs from a plant he closed overseas so he could bring those jobs to America."
www.faroukforgovernor.com

Yeah, he's supposed to outsource jobs to Viet Nam!

Actually he sounds more like Jesse Jones.
How many jobs have you created in Texas?

Her name is Kay Bailey Hutchison, and I do not think she is better for my state.

I've met Mrs. Hutchison, and I think she's a wonderful woman and an extremely effective voice for my state in the U.S. senate.

That said, this primary is stupid---and I have to question her judgement at challenging Rick Perry for the governorship.

Our fucking American way of life is currently under assault by un-democratic liberal scum in Washington, and we don't need to be having this petty pissing contest between two really good people for whom I have a tremendous amount of respect.

The enemy is our little Chocolate Carter punk, his agenda, and his sorry-ass enablers in the legislative leadership.

They are a genuine threat to this Republic as we've known it for 200+ years.

We can hash out our differences about the Trans-Texas Corridor at another time, and in another forum.

'All in all you're just another brick in the wall'

www.youtube.com

Get on with your work

Farouk Shami is a and self-made businessman from Houston.

....running as a Democrat.

Yes Jak, I'm not saying she is worthless or wrong etc - I just think Perry has been pretty effective thus far.

I just think Perry has been pretty effective thus far.

I do too.

And I don't even "think" it.

Its just objective truth.

He has been effective.

That's why he has my support and my vote.

I feel about Mrs. Hutchison the same way I do about Dr. Ron Paul: they're most effective where they are.

There's a time and a place for both of them to make their bids for whatever the next level may be.

Now ain't it.

Our fucking American way of life is currently under assault by un-democratic liberal scum in Washington...

The enemy is our little Chocolate Carter punk, his agenda, and his sorry-ass enablers in the legislative leadership.

They are a genuine threat to this Republic as we've known it for 200+ years.

LOL yeah because the previous 8 years were peachy fuckin' keen.

The real problem is shit stains like this who all of a sudden come out of the woodwork and act as if this country is going to poof out of existence at any moment.

For shits and giggles, please define "our American way of life."

LOL yeah because the previous 8 years were peachy fuckin' keen.

Ummm....

Most of them were.

We certainly had a highly-dramatized "financial collapse" at the ass end of a presidential campaign.

But I'd much rather be living in the economic conditions that defined the years 2000-2007 than in the one now.

please define "our American way of life."

The ability to realize one's potential to create and maintain wealth...

For shits and giggles

But I'd much rather be living in the economic conditions that defined the years 2000-2007 than in the one now.

There's much much much more than economics that factor in to the shitty portions of the past eight years.

Serious question-how much of that economic condition from 2000-2007 do you think was real and how much was over-inflation of the market?

The ability to realize one's potential to create and maintain wealth...

Do you have a real answer or just more romanticized tripe?

act as if this country is going to poof out of existence at any moment.

Except I don't think anyone's advancing the argument that the country will cease to exist.

Do you?

They are a genuine threat to this Republic as we've known it for 200+ years.

Well you certainly seem to think it will change dramatically enough to render it unrecognizable, no?

And to answer your question, no I don't think it will cease to exist. It will ebb and flow like it always has.

I think statements such as those you make are sour grapes that will be conveniently forgotten when things swing back the opposite direction.

The ability to realize one's potential to create and maintain wealth...

For shits and giggles

For the sake of argument, what exactly is the "chocolate Carter" (LOL by the way) doing that will deplete an individual's ability to "realize one's potential to create and maintain wealth..."?

There's much much much more than economics that factor in to the shitty portions of the past eight years.

Except there really wasn't all that much that was "shitty".

I think you're a little too entrenched in some silly little narrative you've heard repeated enough that you actually believe it.

Serious question-how much of that economic condition from 2000-2007 do you think was real and how much was over-inflation of the market?

What "market"?

Or is that the obligatory/cookie-cutter rejoinder that's supposed to make us forget what a fucking mess this anti-business little punk in the White House is making of our ability to grow economically?

For the sake of argument, what exactly is the "chocolate Carter" doing that will deplete an individual's ability to "realize one's potential to create and maintain wealth..."?

Do you understand the dynamics of the relationship that exist between the citizen (and his enterprise) and the state?

Except there really wasn't all that much that was "shitty".

If you focus on your own little world, yeah it wasn't that shitty. I had a good run from 2000-2007.

I think you're a little too entrenched in some silly little narrative you've heard repeated enough that you actually believe it.

No, I'm just a little more aware of what goes on outside of my own little world I guess.

Two wars that have yielded nothing but unpaid bills. Accumulation of power by government. The realization that our country's infrastructure is in the shitter (larger than 2000-2007 I know). Glenn Beck. Nanci Pelosi.

I'm sure others could add more.

What "market"?

Or is that the obligatory/cookie-cutter rejoinder that's supposed to make us forget what a fucking mess this anti-business little punk in the White House is making of our ability to grow economically?

You know it is actually possible to look at the past while still thinking about the future. Anything you have against Obama doesn't change what happened over the past few years and any reference to the previous few years doesn't negate what Obama is doing.

At the very least the housing market was overinflated and it's implosion had far reaching consequences.

Do you understand the dynamics of the relationship that exist between the citizen (and his enterprise) and the state?

Do you understand that answering a question with a question doesn't actually answer the question?

I don't give a shit about the blah blah blah.

Explain what Obama is doing specifically that is killing "our American way of life".

Time for bed.

I look forward to hearing about the death of the American way of life at the hands of the Obama horde in the morning.

Of all the stimulus funding to reject, they reject the one they need the most. Don't take my word for it. Look up the literacy rates for TX. They're dead last.

Some more interesting stats about Texass (no typo)

* Percentage of Uninsured Children - 1st

* Income Inequality Between the Rich and the Poor
- 2nd

* Percentage of Population without Health Insurance - 1st

* Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT) Scores
-47th

* Percentage of Population over 25 with a High School Diploma - 50th

* Percentage of Non-Elderly Women with Health Insurance -50th

* Rate of Women Aged 40+ Who Receive Mammograms
- 44th

* Rate of Women Aged 18+ Who Receive Pap Smears
- 47th

* Cervical Cancer Rate - 5th

* Women's Voter Registration - 43rd

* Women's Voter Turnout - 49th

* Percentage of Eligible Voters that Vote - 44th


Hard-left Muslim empty-suit punk politicians don't have very long coat-tails in America---much less Texas.

God Bless Texas.

#8 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-01-15 01:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

.....and now Houston has it's very own lesbian mayor. That must have you terrified.

Or is that the obligatory/cookie-cutter rejoinder that's supposed to make us forget what a fucking mess this anti-business little punk in the White House is making of our ability to grow economically?

#22 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-01-15 02:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

'Punk'?

You've referred to two politicians now that you don't like as 'punks'.

How just how ancient are you?

Hard-left

Not left enuff.

Muslim

Christian.

empty-suit

More capable than Reagan.

punk

Legal scholar.

politicians

Ya think?

Mao gets 1 outta 5!

Breaking his old record of never being right by a significant margin.

Gratz.

Be Well.

Not left enuff.

Umm, he'd be impeached. Take a look around.

Christian.

Horseshit.

More capable than Reagan.

LOL.

You're not working very hard to be taken seriously.

Legal scholar.

Scholars produce scholarship.

Where's his?

Finally!

One Repub that when he opposes something he doesn't stick his hand out like a greedy little hypocritical piggy like the rest of them.

Panush Jindal could learn something from this guy. Doubt he will though.... Repubs and learning don't mix.

"But I'd much rather be living in the economic conditions that defined the years 2000-2007 than in the one now."

I'm sure an idiot like you would, those years actually seemed like prosperity until we realized it was all based on pretend values for real estate. When that bubble burst it was obvious that those years were really stagnant times of nothing but borrowing. Now, we are stuck with the bill for those years, and we'll be paying for those years for, at least, the next decade.

Here is the mind set of the dr left.....

Some people will do anything to score political points with right wingers and Perry is no exception. What a completely selfish moron. I hope Hitchinson beats him, she'd be better for the people of Texas.

#3 | Posted by danni

Go back and read President Douche Bags speech about taxing the tarp banks. Obama's 'free money' comes at a heavy cost.

Take the money....... and he sets rules on what the state's must do with their budgets. Next thing he say is they are 'making obscene revenues'. And people want 'their money back' and Texas shouldn't be doing so well.....

Obama's 'free money' comes at a heavy cost.

JFC you bitch when he gives it out and you bitch when he wants it back.

Make up your fucking mind.

"Umm, he'd be impeached. Take a look around."

What would Obama be impeached for if he were actually a leftie? What laws would he break? What high crimes and misdemeanors? What actionable action? Those suggesting Obama be impeached (not what Mao was doing--I'm extending the argument) are just as foolish (perhaps moreso) as those on the other extreme end of the political spectrum who were insisting that Bush be impeached. Show me the crimes. Show me the foundation. Clinton was only impeached because they engineered him into perjury; up until then, he had been an asshole to women, his wife, and his family, but impeachable? Don't think so.

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Getting back to the actual topic, this governor and his rejection of education stimulus (whatever that means), I gotta say to my fellow lefties, I'd be happy to bash him if I could be sure this means he's anti-education. But he cites governmental strings, and it's actually possible that's not mere rhetoric. Without reading the details of this education stimulus offer to states, we can't fairly judge a response like Perry's. Have any of you critics (or supporters who might be doing a kneejerk "Yeah, fuck the feds" rallying cry) read the details? Until we do, what do we really know? And how can we have a true opinion (opinions being based on facts, not simply ideology and emotion).

Texas is the last state that should be turning anything down. Last in every educational category and they don't even care.

I have a hard time faulting him on this. This 'Race to the Top' puts states in a tough bind. A large majority of states could certainly use the money. But from my understanding of the terms of accepting stimulus money, you end up agreeing to make hard-to-reverse changes to your state's education system, none of which have been proven to work, for the chance to APPLY for federal money with no guarantee of actually receiving it. Again from my understanding, the timing is also difficult for states -- it demands immediate action without consulting school districts, administrators, or, heaven help us, teachers. It's hard not to accept that kind of dough especially in economic times like this, but 'Race to the Top' in some ways seems as ill-conceived and poorly researched as NCLB.

If Race to the Top does that, DylanFan, I completely agree. Have you read the details of these offers? I guess I could find them on the DOE website... : )

But yeah, DylanFan makes some excellent points. I'm particularly fond of the "heaven help us, teachers" bit of irony.

I haven't read the bill, no. I'm in a graduate education program while I'm teaching, and we've talked a little bit about this bill (probably more at our next class, which focuses on ed. law). Some of the ideas behind the bill seem reasonable until you really start thinking about them. For instance, it requires that states that accept the money initiate some sort of merit pay schedule. This might seem fine on paper, but there are several problems with it.

1-It would probably go against several teacher contracts/unions, etc. What's the point of collective bargaining if you just go out and accept money that changes the terms of that agreement without at least consulting the most-affected people first?

2-I'm not sure if this is on the national level or just in my state (WI), but they're talking about paying teachers according to the gains their students make on standardized tests. One year's growth in a year's time from all the students a teacher has, for example, and that teacher is an average teacher. More than a year's growth in a year = exemplary (i.e., more money), and less than a year's growth us sub-standard (i.e., pay cut). Again, seems fine on paper...until you consider that special ed teachers by their very nature would be paid less because many special ed students don't have the skills to make those types of gains. Gifted and talented, honors, and AP teachers would get pay cuts because often students at the top have less room to grow. It also doesn't begin to address electives or subject areas not covered by standardized testing. And all this assumes that standardized testing actually measures what's important in the first place; in my opinion, it doesn't scratch the surface.

None of these questions are answered by the terms of the agreement; the states must simply agree to merit pay without any resolution to these potential hang-ups. What will it do to our schools when our teachers with the most seniority take the students who will make the most gains, and the lowest and highest students are taken by young, less-experienced teachers? Again, none of this is answered. The feds require the states to leap before looking.

How many jobs have you created in Texas?

#9 | Posted by Zatoichi

I hired some mexicans to take down a tree in Houston. Does that count?

So you are saying I am qualified to run for governor of texas? yippeee! I mean, 'yee-haaa'.

While it is true that federal money comes with more federal rules (the down side) it is also true that Texas leads the pack in illiteracy. I tend to side with Perry on the loss of states rights when taking money, but he's no less of a douche bag for allowing his state to fall to the bottom of the list on nearly every matter that requires intelligent decisions as so aptly pointed out in #27. Texas will always have the dumbest people in the country thanks to their perceived conservative values. Ask Perry if he would turn down federal highway funds or stimulus money for weatherizing homes for the poor (that was never used for it's intended purpose)or money for NASA and the answer is hell no from Perry, but money that helps educate the poorer Texans (mostly black or brown people) and he's all for telling the government to bug off. Texas republicans worse fear is that the minorities will finely get educated someday and dump them all along with their cheap suits and Stetsons.

You make some valid points Dylanfan, but government workers (like teachers) should all be held accountable for their performance and it's the American way to use money as the incentive. It's because of the unions and the tenure system that teachers just don't care about students that fall through the cracks and leave school functionally illiterate.

They put the blame on the students and apathetic parents, but I tend to think it's the teachers. I went to a private Catholic high school and although I don't care for their religious philosophy, it's obvious after attending state college, that the Catholics had far more dedicated teachers and as a result I was way ahead of the public school kids in every subject from the start. In fact, in my first two weeks of college I was advanced in math, English and writing classes by examination alone.

I earned 21 credits when I only signed up for 12 in my first semester! I attribute that to my teachers, because I sure didn't care for high school and had it not been for them, I likely would have done poorly in the SAT too.

If Perry doesn't want the money fine, then there's more for all the rest of the states. Thanks Texas!

Danni, are you dismissing his argument as empty rhetoric? Might he not have a point? (As a public school teacher, I feel the feds are way too involved in education... Though at the same time, I believe some districts, and maybe states, take the idea of local control too far.)

wth? He sure had no problem accepting the unfunded mandate of "No Child Left Behind" and the YAKS tests, which have done nothing to improve education in our state.

But of course, this was said to play into the Secessionists and Tea Baggers in Texas.

Even if that's true (46), does he have no valid point? Show of hands, please: Who has read the details of the education stimulus offer to states?

"Danni, are you dismissing his argument as empty rhetoric?"

I'm saying that for $700 million the state of Texas would have to face incredible long term obligations to justify turning down the money, I am glad REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR CRIST here in Florida cares more about the students of Florida than his own personal ambitions. Gov. Crist faces Marco (EXTREME RIGHTWINGER) Rubio here for the Senate nomination and the stimulus will be an issue that he tries to attack Crist with but still Crist is taking, IMHO, the more responsible position.

"Even if that's true (46), does he have no valid point? Show of hands, please: Who has read the details of the education stimulus offer to states?"

Gee, I wonder if "No Child Left Behind" had similar obligations for the state of Texas???
I'm quite sure it did but Perry didn't seem to have the same objections to that bill...oh gee, I wonder why???

Texas will opt-out if this health care slush fund goes through. That pesky constitution thingy keeps getting in the way for the dems. As soon as they come after some Texan for not paying their mandated tax, there will be so many lawsuits Rahm's head will spin off.

There is hope, however... "Texas Attorney General says full and open debate on constitutional questions could eliminate protracted legal challenges." ...or maybe not

Did Texas opt out of Medicare?
Did any state opt out of Medicare?

Did Texas opt out of NCLB which was based on a flawed study of a Houston City Schools program that failed to document students who DROPPED OUT due to it's implementation?

(remember Rod Paige)

Oh, that's right, NCLB=teaching to the test by calling education=the memorization of useless facts, (instead of teaching children to THINK, is the Texas way.....and has enriched the bush family and the Texas' book and testing company profiteers immeasurably.....so it's all good, eh?

Maybe when Perry has Texas SECEDE, they will opt out of NCLB too.......???

Texas to Obama: We Don't Need No Edumacational

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All states will be by defacto opting-out of Medicare because it is almost bankrupt, doctors are dropping out, and they are sure not going to take a nickel on the dollar for this new health slush fund.

"You make some valid points Dylanfan,"

Some? EVERY point is valid. : )

"but government workers (like teachers) should all be held accountable for their performance and it's the American way to use money as the incentive."

That's fine. I'm a teacher, and I'm willing to be held accountable, but not based on tests. DylanFan only scraped the surface of why that doesn't make sense and would actually work against much of what we need in education (teacher collaboration, to name one thing). But of course, I've offered analysis after analysis over the months I've been here (and it's nice to know I'm not the only teacher), and few have engaged seriously, instead depending on rhetoric like, well, like this:

"It's because of the unions and the tenure system that teachers just don't care about students that fall through the cracks and leave school functionally illiterate. "

Now we're in "fuck you" land. That's a bullshit statement, pal. Teachers? Teachers just don't care about students? Do you know any teachers? Frustrated? Yes. Paralyzed by mandates and paperwork? Yes. Fed up with excuses from students (and parents)? Yes. Apathetic or lacking compassion? Hell NO.

"They put the blame on the students and apathetic parents, but I tend to think it's the teachers. I went to a private Catholic high school and although I don't care for their religious philosophy, it's obvious after attending state college, that the Catholics had far more dedicated teachers and as a result I was way ahead of the public school kids in every subject from the start. In fact, in my first two weeks of college I was advanced in math, English and writing classes by examination alone."

The vast majority of teachers I know are passionate and dedicated, smart and competent (or well beyond competent). You tend to think it's the teachers? Good for you. You know what, my anecdote is as good as yours--when I went to college, I found that I was way beyond my private/parochial school peers in nearly every way.

And are you really dismissing the importance of parents' roles in their children's education?

As I've said over and over again, there are certainly flaws in the public school system, and they need addressing. But to assert that these problems are all the fault of teachers and unions, and that teachers are lazy or incompetent or lacking compassion, is... Well, it's either ignorance, willful ignorance, or pure provocation. (And no, I'm not as pissed as some of this sounds, but yes, this sort of crap gets my dander up.) There are three pillars to a student's success: student, parent, teacher. If any one of them is weak, the student suffers. It really is that simple.

Perry may have a point; he may be engaging in empty rhetoric. I don't know him or his philosophy/ideology, and I don't know the requirements of the education stimulus (a stupid phrase, btw). I think tying money to very specific programs is problematic. I think the merit pay aspect of Race to the Top is a terrible, terrible idea, for more reasons than can be listed here, but I think teacher accountability is a valid concept, though an offensive buzzword. At the same time, I'd like students and parents to face some sort of accountability, too. Is a doctor responsible for a patient's health, all alone? Of course not. He or she is responsible for diagnosis and treatment; the patient has to act on those things. Why do teachers so often get bashed in ways other professionals do not?

Hutchinson TV Ad exposes Perry

"They put the blame on the students and apathetic parents, but I tend to think it's the teachers. I went to a private Catholic high school and although I don't care for their religious philosophy, it's obvious after attending state college, that the Catholics had far more dedicated teachers and as a result I was way ahead of the public school kids in every subject from the start."

I attended Catholic schools (for a part of my school years), I sent my daughter to a Catholic high school. Both of us received good educations but not necessarily because of the superiority of the teachers, if anything they were inferior. No, it was because the entrance exam kept out all the really slow learning students. Any good teacher could have a class that excells if that teacher could pick and choose which students they have to teach. Public school teachers don't get that luxury.

As I've said over and over again, there are certainly flaws in the public school system, and they need addressing. But to assert that these problems are all the fault of teachers and unions, and that teachers are lazy or incompetent or lacking compassion, is... Well, it's either ignorance, willful ignorance, or pure provocation.

Why do teachers so often get bashed in ways other professionals do not?

#54 | POSTED BY PRAGMATIST AT 2010-01-15 11:55 AM

1. Studies show the two most important factors in student's abilities to learn are parental involvement and socio-economic status.

2. Republicans have this penchant for throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

3. Teachers have become the whipping boys of the republicans since reagan for one reason only......teachers overwhelmingly vote for the interests of student's education, (ie-dem) including public schools, which, despite the continual smearing by republicans, are one of the most important reasons the USA is the greatest country in the history of the world and will continue to be. 90% of ALL Americans are educated in public schools, 95% before 1990, after a decade of republican smears and taxpayer money being used for "experiments" like vouchers and charter schools.

Prag: Thanks once again for your balanced (nearly to a fault) and reasonable discourse/posts.

#4 lipz
I hope that other person wins. don't even know her name or her stand on any issues but i would rather see just about anyone else other than those two washington insiders.

Great point, Lipzoidal. Her name is Debra Medina. She is the polar opposite of these two. The three debated last night, illustrating your point exactly.

Debate Archive

#48 danni

EXTREME RIGHTWINGER) Rubio

LOL. Danni is quaking in fear. What the heck is an extreme rightwinger?

I don't know much about Rubio, but Crist is a complete stiff non-conservative. Anyone would be a huge improvement.

56

Excellent points.

And i recall clearly in the 50's/60's how inferior Catholic education was, using unlicensed teachers and old texts. It was a source of ridicule back then.

But this was before mandates that public schools "mainstream" all students into them, regardless of handicap (challenge), behavioral, physical or congnitive.

When all is considered.....that public schools are mandated to teach ALL Americans, and that parental involvement and socio-economic status are the two most important factors-which are indeed controlled by parochial schools (not to mention them not having to take any student not scholastically already doing well), public schools are incredibly successful.

"Prag: Thanks once again for your balanced (nearly to a fault) and reasonable discourse/posts."

You're welcome, Woke. Of course, a few people have still called me a partisan hack, which is just bizarre.

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L_RContrarian: What's an extreme rightwinger? Er, what's a hard lefty or far lefty? Seems to me, using global definitions of history, we have more people close to far right than to far left in this country. But of course, I didn't catch the context of your commentary, so I"m talkin' out my ass. (Refreshing, ain't it?)

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Back to education, funny thing: I just had a conversation the other night with a parent of one of our (public school) kids who is on the board of a private school in the area. He said they often hire uncertified teachers ("We often have to"), and they need more training on specific methodologies and ideas such as different learning abilities... Just sayin'.

Some people will do anything to score political points with right wingers and Perry is no exception. What a completely selfish moron. I hope Hitchinson beats him, she'd be better for the people of Texas.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2010

WHEW

thanks so much young lady
I am pretty sure you just made up my mind on who I would support and vote for
AND this comment sounds like some of those we heard one year ago about the end of conservatism and the republican party...and now MASS is next tuesday...

cant put my hands on the poll right now but just in the past day or two, I read something about perry taking the polls back from her intial lead.
its the economy stupid....and texas leads the country.
57& of ALL JOBS created in the us last year were in TEXAS.

dey gonna clos da liberry blt
#6 | Posted by badgerwest

If you had added an "ow noes" at the end of that, it might have made post of the year.

#63 | Posted by afkabl2

And its all thanks to Oil...and nothing else actually. Corporate layoffs are still on pace in Texas. Other industries are suffering. But world demand for oil is still going up so what the hell did you expect? North Dakota and Alaska are having similar increases in that field. It isn't about anything the government did.

#61 prag
L_RContrarian: What's an extreme rightwinger? Er, what's a hard lefty or far lefty? Seems to me, using global definitions of history, we have more people close to far right than to far left in this country. But of course, I didn't catch the context of your commentary, so I"m talkin' out my ass. (Refreshing, ain't it?)

I do appreciate the honesty. Danni is the one touting this fear.

"Far lefty" isn't analogous to "extreme rightwinger".

and just think syco if we were to seceede how much money we could make.
of course I would support the old 'let the yankees freeze in the dark' bumper sticker then...

seriously...this will not hurt perry and it wont hurt the schools and kay baily better tread lightly here.

""Far lefty" isn't analogous to "extreme rightwinger"."

Okay, so what is? Can you explain that?

Having watched the debate at UNT last night, all three of the Repugnant candidates are out of their minds trying to attract the Ron Paul crowd. Too bad....

Perry is definitely a politico (having been a Dem for Gore and then switching to run with W)whose affiliation blows with the wind.

Texas is making progress in the state house and senate by electing more Dems, but many are not much different than the Repugs.

Bill White for Gov!

no way on bill white...and I voted for him in his last race for mayor but for one reason only. his work during the hurricanes.
but governor is out of the question.

#68 prag
You can't see it? Extreme has certain connations.
It doesn't matter what is analagous. The whole concept is false.

Left and right are moving barometers.
The polar opposites are anarchy and totalitarianism.

#69 | Posted by WankerBait at 2010-01-15 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag: Con Artist

Sure. You spent $30 to attend a Republican debate to endorse the Democrat.

In all honesty wanker, as you report, why would all three attempt to tout 'liberty' policies [recall it is a Republican audience]? So don't tout any Dem BS in your answer.

I hope Hitchinson beats him, she'd be better for the people of Texas.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2010-01-14 08:25 PM | Reply | Flag

THANK GOD TEXAS IS NOT WHERE DANNI CALLS HOME

#9 zat
faroukforgovernor

Things in Texas are heading in the wrong direction. The cost of health care and health insurance is out of control, too many jobs are being shipped abroad, the quality of basic public education is falling, and our air, land and water are under constant threat from polluters. We simply can't settle for more business as usual.

Does this guy think he is stumping for a federal government job? Also, his statement is so generic that it could be any State in the Union.

Prag --

Thanks for defending the profession so vehemently. I was planning a similar post, but frankly there's nothing I could do to improve on what you wrote. Kudos.

KBH's, like the obedient globalist she is, unleashed her plan today: Merge Homeland Security with local enforcement for border security.

You're welcome, Dylan. And thank you. Some may find this of interest: learning.blogs.nytimes.com

I'm not inclined right now to take the time to explore--maybe between semesters--but she sums it up well, at least at first glance.

L_R, thanks for the concise conceptualizing. I agree with the "extreme" part. The rest is either gross oversimplification or genius conciseness. (That is not offered in conflict, but respectfully, if that makes any sense.)

Take the 'free money', and be on the hook for Obama control of your budget.

Just like the Tarp banks.

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