hillarious.

politics is so infected with such scummy people

Why don't you take a seat right here...

Why didn't they just arrest him for felony stupid?

Oops.

Wow, and a repeat offender. This is unfortunately going to color conversation regarding the factual data that he presented. He obviously cannot ever be allowed unobserved internet access, sorry.

WTF does this have to do with Clinton?

You partisan loons really have a serious Clinton fixation.

WTF does this have to do with Clinton?

There are four names that will guarantee an end to any and all rational thought:

1. Clinton
2. Bush
3. Obama
4. Palin

If you see any of those names in a headline, avoid the thread for there be trolls ahead.

He was a regular at Bohemian Grove.

-JeffnSkidmark

"Do you want to inspect the missile in my pants?"

#7 - true that! Ppl will avoid some things like the plague.

This guy is an embarrassment to us Liberals, similar to Foley for Conservatives. He was a highly intelligent and articulate critic of GWB's Iraq WMD lies. And, it turns out, he is also a pedophile and a pervert. This is his second time being busted for this type of nonsense. Won't he please just go away and let us forget about him?

"Won't he please just go away and let us forget about him?"

I sort of think he will, maybe not voluntarily though.

Wow, and a repeat offender.

Adult males who prey on underage teens are scumbags. But he's not a repeat offender if he's never been convicted of anything. One old charge was dismissed and in the other incident he was never charged. It's pretty prejudicial to bring up old stuff that didn't result in charges or convictions.

Adult males who prey on underage teens are scumbags.
#13 | Posted by rcade

Makes me wonder though. Is this a modern phenomenon or has it been a problem since humanity began?

Is it something that our modern culture created?

It's pretty prejudicial to bring up old stuff that didn't result in charges or convictions.

#13 | Posted by rcade

Using your logic, then Liberals can't talk about Bush in a negative light.

"Won't he please just go away and let us forget about him?"

I sort of think he will, maybe not voluntarily though.

Not if a liberal judge has anything to do about it. He might get probabtion

I'm sure this is the first time he's ever done anything like this.

#7 - true that! Ppl will avoid some things like the plague.

#10 | Posted by nanc at 2010-01-15 12:10 AM | Reply

You do realize you just called yourself a troll don't you?

has it been a problem since humanity began?

Tiberius was a famous pedophile and took intense pleasure in having sex with children under 10 years of age.

WTF does this have to do with Clinton?

You partisan loons really have a serious Clinton fixation.

#6 | Posted by JimmyWallback

Seems to me like you are the one that brought it up.

What a jerkoff.

Using your logic, then Liberals can't talk about Bush in a negative light.

We're talking about someone charged with a crime. The media is bringing up old allegations against him that were dismissed or never charged. Try to focus, dude.

He's found a weapon of miss destruction.

This guy is an embarrassment to us Liberals, similar to Foley for Conservatives.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2010-01-15 12:09 PM

What Ritter really needs is a prosecutor like the Coakley in Massachusetts. He'd walk for sure.

Why didn't they just arrest him for felony stupid?

#3 | Posted by nanc

If that were possible, you'd've been arrested and thrown in prison long ago.

dav, that was realy stupid.

This must make BushCo cream their jeans. Almost as good as catching Spitzer, who played a more expensive game while targeting the Oligarchy. He hasn't given up either.

So, is it now a felony to imagine having sex with a fifteen year old girl while jacking off? This guy hasn't hurt anyone, just embarrassed himself.

wonder what his wife thinks about all this...

This guy is an embarrassment to us Liberals, similar to Foley for Conservatives. He was a highly intelligent and articulate critic of GWB's Iraq WMD lies. And, it turns out, he is also a pedophile and a pervert. This is his second time being busted for this type of nonsense. Won't he please just go away and let us forget about him?

#11 | Posted by moder8

Thank you, moder8 for your honesty--I'm seeing more and more of that on DR on both sides---behavior such as this and other type of behavior should no longer be tolerated by either side within their party or particular philosophy--only then will we be able to move forward and start to build a "better America."

"This guy is an embarrassment to us Liberals, similar to Foley for Conservatives. He was a highly intelligent and articulate critic of GWB's Iraq WMD lies. And, it turns out, he is also a pedophile and a pervert."

Thank you, moder8. I have made the similar point several times. They make hay of these stories only to do guilt by association.

Hey Scott we're pulling for you!

Nanc, what are you doing? The liberals here don't want to see this kind of shit here. It doesn't exist. Never forget that.

The liberals here don't want to see this kind of shit here. It doesn't exist. Never forget that.

Uh yeah, front page, center. Got it.

Go back to using the Fox talking points. The ones you make up are moronic.

Yea....go to fox news maannnn....or faux news maaannn
you george bush neocon rethug maaannnn

Yea....go to fox news maannnn....or faux news maaannn
you george bush neocon rethug maaannnn

OH MY
so are you telling me a darling of the liberal is also involved with a teen sex sting.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOO

This is a better way to get Ritter...Mullins is harder 'nut' to crack:>)

The Contract Murder
Of Eustace Mullins
By Eustace Mullins
6-16-6

"He was framed"

-Pete Townsend

Ok so who was the 15 yr old victim? hmmmm an adult posing as a child?

Thought crime.

Careful what you fantasize about, they could be coming for you.

Ok so who was the 15 yr old victim? hmmmm an adult posing as a child?

It is an interesting grey area as he only intended to commit the crime, but technically never did. It would be like shooting someone with a gun that had the bullets switched out for blanks. You did intend to kill them, but really cannot be charged with anything more than attempted murder. Ritter tried to jerk off infront of a 15 year old girl, but really did it infront of an adult cop. Is there an "attempted kiddie porn" charge?

Ok so who was the 15 yr old victim? hmmmm an adult posing as a child?

Thought crime.

Careful what you fantasize about, they could be coming for you.

#41 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:38 PM

retarded? produce the 15 yr old victim.

he THOUGHT? how do you know what he THOUGHT? you want to go down the slippery slide of thinking can get you in trouble? If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus am I a pedophile?

produce the victim.

If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus (in my mind) am I a pedophile?

"It would be like shooting someone with a gun that had the bullets switched out for blanks. You did intend to kill them, but really cannot be charged with anything more than attempted murder."

I don't believe you can be charged with anything. Intention is not a crime as far as I know.

no wonder he could not find wmd. too busy pounding his pud

Clem,
In my example, you aimed the gun, believed it was loaded, and pulled the trigger: that IS attempted murder by definition. What I am unclear on, and I know many "To Catch a Predator" cases were thrown out because there is no attempted kiddie porn related charge and they people charged all said they thought the person was of age and it was a fantasy site.

Intention is not a crime as far as I know.

Intent has to be combined with a CRIMINAL act.

How is masterbating to a consenting adult a CRIMINAL ACT?

In my example, you aimed the gun, believed it was loaded, and pulled the trigger: that IS attempted murder by definition. What I am unclear on, and I know many "To Catch a Predator" cases were thrown out because there is no attempted kiddie porn related charge and they people charged all said they thought the person was of age and it was a fantasy site.

Sorry, but I disagree. There is no criminal act. I don't believe intent is enough to be considered a crime.

Clem
It really is not open to debate when it comes to attempting a crime.

MURDER, ATTEMPTED - In order for a person to be found guilty of attempted murder the government must prove:

First, acting deliberately and intentionally or recklessly with extreme disregard for human life, the person attempted to kill someone; and the person did something that was a substantial step toward committing the crime.

Pointing a loaded gun at a person and pulling the trigger IS attempted murder even if the gun had blanks, but you thought they were real.

Talking about harming the President is a crime unto itself, regardless if you do it or not. There are many cases where intent is enough to charge which is why there is a charge of "attempted (blank).

That said, if you re-read my posts, you will see I am sort of agree with you that there is no charge that really covers what he did as the "victim" is actually an adult law enforcement officer and not a 15 year old girl.

ok fair enough, perhaps I have learned a thing or two about attempted murder, I can see where pointing and firing the gun at a person is a criminal act.

However, this case differs significantly as there is no 15 yr old victim. The only child was the one in Ritter's head.

I am not defending Ritter, he is a scumbag and likely was a pedophile.

However, I think it dangerous territory to criminalize someone for their thoughts.

"In my example, you aimed the gun, believed it was loaded, and pulled the trigger: that IS attempted murder by definition."

the erect penis is a weapon whether or not he's had a vasectomy by golly!

the erect penis is a weapon whether or not he's had a vasectomy by golly!

But where he aimed it was not illegal as it was an adult, not a minor. Scott only thought it was a child, so, at best, this is "attempted improper relations with a minor" or "attempted child endangerment" and I don't know if those are real charges. It is this grey area where the "victim" is not a victim that gives Clem some credibility in this.

Thought crime.

Careful what you fantasize about, they could be coming for you.

#41 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:38 PM | Reply

Spanking it in front of someone you believe to be a 15 year old is acting on a fantasy and he needs to face the legal consequences of doing so.

so you think it should be against the law to fantasize about a 15 yr old? He DIDNT masterbate in front of a 15 yr old. he masterbated infront of a consenting adult.

it was this guys testimony that really convinced me that the justification for the iraq war was bullshit.

months before we went in he said that there is no way they could have weapons because there was no infrastructure to make them
he said that the US was trying build a case that the Iraqi government couldn't account for every nut and bolt documented.

he called BS on it before anybody did and he was right.

It was such a simple argument and maddening to see how our president at the time ignored it.

There is no criminal act. I don't believe intent is enough to be considered a crime.

Under most state statutes passed to combat online predators, the demonstrated intent to solicit sexual acts from a minor is sufficient to land you in jail regardless of whether the minor is a willing participant. So, as a legal matter, the enticements offered by the decoys are of little importance to the police.

The only part that is REALLY bad of Scott, and beyond your attempts to explain it Clem, is this part:

Ritter again asked "Emily" how old she was. Told she was 15, Ritter said he didn't realize she was 15 and turned off his webcam, saying he didn't want to get in trouble.

Ritter told "Emily" he had been fantasizing about having sex with her, to which she replied: "Guess you turned it off ..."

Ritter then said: "You want to see it finish," reactivated his

webcam and continued masturbating and ejaculated on camera.

And I have had my question answered: He had been charged with attempted child endangerment after arranging in an online chatroom to meet what he thought was a 16-year-old girl at a Burger King restaurant.

There is attempted and, as he admitted it was wrong when he turned off his camera. The crime, IMHO, occured when he turned it back on and finished.

Did 'they' get lucky or were 'they' on the hunt?

link repeated:>)

He DIDNT masterbate in front of a 15 yr old.

It doesn't matter if the person on the other end was 15 or not, he believed "she" was 15. That is all it take under the online predator laws.

Don't like it? Campaign to overturn the laws... good luck on not looking like a pervert with that cause to champion.

"...good luck on not looking like a pervert with that cause to champion"

ff #63

The Ritter Clause lol

There is attempted and, as he admitted it was wrong when he turned off his camera. The crime, IMHO, occured when he turned it back on and finished.

The officer stated that "she" was 15 before he even started....

"Emily" told Ritter she was a 15-year-old girl from the Poconos, at which point Ritter asked for a picture other than the one "Emily" had posted on her account. Ritter then sent her a link to his Web camera and began to masturbate on camera.

The crime happened when he started the first time.

clemens

You would happen to be Roger Clemens would you?

No wonder you fantasize about 15 year olds.

726,
I have a reasonable doubt that he was aware of her age the first time, but has he typed the "15" before turning off his camera, that tells me he knew the age for certain when he turned it back on and finished.

retarded? produce the 15 yr old victim.

he THOUGHT? how do you know what he THOUGHT? you want to go down the slippery slide of thinking can get you in trouble? If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus am I a pedophile?

produce the victim.

#44 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:47 PM | Flag: Retarded

good luck on not looking like a pervert with that cause to champion

It makes abuses against the accused very easy as no one wants to look like they are defending perverts. I used to watch "To Catch" and I had many doubts as to the actual guilt of many who said "she said 18" and I realized the only proof is coming from Perverted Justice, who is paid to catch people and could easily alter chatlogs and turn an 18 into a 13.

Kanrei,

Oh without a doubt, turning it back on and finishing sealed his fate.

I was just pointing out that the article stated that "Emily" told him she was 15 before the web cam came on the first time.

Whether Ritter heard that or not I don't know. Judging from him turning off the webcam maybe not, but he did turn it back on again.

I still get hard ons many times a nite ~ my girlfriends & ex-wife tell me. Maybe I was guilty as sin of wet dreaming we were 15 again?

If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus am I a pedophile?
#44 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:47 PM

If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus (in my mind) am I a pedophile?
#45 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:48 PM

could easily alter chatlogs and turn an 18 into a 13.

I don't know about that.

But I do agree with you that the laws could be unconstitutional but no one will challenge them due to the stigma attached. I have a feeling that the ACLU would have done so already if they were unconstitutional.

That being said, there are way way way too many pedos out there and in my opinion any legal way to get them exposed (no pun intended) is good.

We need a dream law to control hard ons! Who knows what past life might 'come' up?:>)

Whether Ritter heard that or not I don't know. Judging from him turning off the webcam maybe not, but he did turn it back on again.

#70 | Posted by 726

and an adult implied she wanted to see him finish. entrapment?

an adult implied she wanted to see him finish. entrapment?

Posted by clemens

Depends on the skill of the lawyer and the jury picked at trial. He is totally allowed to persue that line of defense.

and an adult implied she wanted to see him finish. entrapment?

#75 | Posted by clemens

ABSOLUTELY!

and an adult implied she wanted to see him finish. entrapment?

#75 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 03:26 PM

that child seems to know an awful lot about hardons it seems...let's really protect ourselves from that child! it might grow up to be a politician! or worst, a preacher

or a lawyer:>)

So, if I go to a place that offers paintball guns -- they tell me they're paintball guns -- and other players shoot at me and I at them while saying, "bang, you're dead!", should I be arrested for attempted murder?

These sites require users to be adult, and intelligent users know they're dealing with fantasy, not reality. The cop sent him a photo. Whoopdeedo! A photo. There's "proof".

Why would Ritter whack off on cam with someone who was supposedly a 15yo without requiring "her" to also be on cam? Because he knew "she" was either a 35yo woman or, more likely, a 55yo man.

You'd think people on HERE of all places would understand all about false online personas.

If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus (in my mind) am I a pedophile?

#45 | Posted by clemens

No, just a lonely retard.

Well I guess he voted for the Zero

If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus (in my mind) am I a pedophile?
#45 | Posted by clemens

No, just a lonely retard.
#82 | Posted by wisgod at 2010-01-15 04:49 PM

Pedophilia: People with pedophilia have fantasies, urges or behaviors that involve illegal sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger). Pedophilic behavior includes undressing the child, encouraging the child to watch the abuser masturbate, touching or fondling the child's genitals and forcefully performing sexual acts on the child. Some pedophiles are sexually attracted to children only (exclusive pedophiles) and are not attracted to adults at all. Some pedophiles limit their activity to their own children or close relatives (incest), while others victimize other children. Predatory pedophiles may use force or threaten their victims if they disclose the abuse. Health care providers are legally bound to report such abuse of minors.

15? - gee, Ritter likes 'em old!

~ prophet muhammad

This "thought crime" line of defense totally misses the point. No one was guessing what Ritter was thinking - he specifically said he was fantasizing about having sex with this supposed 15-year-old girl, and after confirming that she was only 15 he decided to turn his web cam back on and showed himself ejaculating. This is no different than a prostitution sting where a "john" is arrested for soliciting sex from a police officer. Just because the officer isn't actually a prostitute doesn't excuse the crime.

Whistle Blowers Beware!!!

Conclusion: They must have wanted Ritter real bad to fabricate this phony sting against him!!! Ritter is a man who knew full well he was constantly under surveillance by the US Govt in everything he said,did,watched or communicated!

Evidence in these hi-tech days is very easy to create and the reason they're going after Ritter at this time,may be an attempt to "Discourage" any other government insiders from becoming "whistle blowers"!!!

Makes me wonder though. Is this a modern phenomenon or has it been a problem since humanity began?

In the 1800s, 15 was an old maid. Or today in Utah. Ritter should have converted to Mormonism from Moronism (not a big leap)and he'd be banging one of several teenage wives whenever he wanted.

And not to bust any righties bubbles, but Ritter was never elected to anything and no Speaker of the House tried to cover his perversions up, like say Hastert covering for Foley. You guys are just pissed he was one of the first to show Bush was full of shit.

Reality and the right...

Yeah, Ritter, call it a 'smear campaign' if you will; but who was trolling for jailbait on the internet?

What a scumbag.

Adult males who prey on underage teens are scumbags.

Fucking homophobe.

Amazing(or maybe not) how so many people who criticize the powerful end up in small plane crashes or sex scandals. Paul Wellstone and Eliot Spitzer come to mind but there have been plenty of others on all sides of the political divide.

Saddam was giving him little girls to keep him quiet.

Amazing(or maybe not) how so many people who criticize the powerful end up in small plane crashes or sex scandals. Paul Wellstone and Eliot Spitzer come to mind but there have been plenty of others on all sides of the political divide.

#92 | Posted by brock

Some folks show what good humans they are by exhibiting moral outrage about a certain subject, act person to advance themselves in the eyes of others (who then think that person is such a fine person) but in their private lives they're morally bankrupt---called "moral exhibitionism" in the Vietnam Era.

Some folks show what good humans they are by exhibiting moral outrage about a certain subject, act, person to advance themselves in the eyes of others (who then think that person is such a fine person) but in their private lives they're morally bankrupt---called "moral exhibitionism" in the Vietnam Era.

#94 | Posted by matsop

An example might be that late night guy, Letterman.

Conclusion: They must have wanted Ritter real bad to fabricate this phony sting against him!!!

#88 | Posted by AntiCadillac

What does little o have to gain by that asshole going to jail so jamal can bang his butt?

When you tell the Truth about WMD's...You should expect things like this to happen

Makes me wonder though. Is this a modern phenomenon or has it been a problem since humanity began?

Is it something that our modern culture created?

#14 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-01-15 12:23 PM

for 100s of 1,000s of years, the rule was, "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed". It's completely natural. Our "modern" society is the backwardass convolution. A mere hundred years ago, it wouldn't have raised eyebrows if a man married a 15 year old, right in the heartland of the USA.

retarded? produce the 15 yr old victim.

he THOUGHT? how do you know what he THOUGHT? you want to go down the slippery slide of thinking can get you in trouble? If I masterbate to a young miley cyrus am I a pedophile?

produce the victim.

#44 | Posted by clemens at 2010-01-15 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Hey Clemency,
It is rational to think that if you don't get people like this off the internet, it's only a matter of time until you will have a real victim.

It's Illegal to do what he was doing. Its called using the internet to engage in sexually explicit acts with children.

What are you doing with your spare time?

And, it turns out, he is also a pedophile and a pervert. This is his second time being busted for this type of nonsense. Won't he please just go away and let us forget about him?

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2010-01-15 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just for future reference, a pedophile preys on pre-pubescent children.

We all saw the vulgar glee of ModerHate when that guy from Idaho was butting with teen boys. But having sex with teenagers -- or fantasizing about it -- is not pedophilia

But having sex with teenagers -- or fantasizing about it -- is not pedophilia

#100 | Posted by vernon at 2010-01-17 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Correct, It's called statutory rape in most states.

It also gets you on a sexual predator list in most states.

In some states it forces you to register with a sexual offender list and put a sign in your yard, send out notices to your employer, neightbors etc...

If you do that shit in my state you are RUINED.

And I really don't see the problem with the punishment.

Bye bye Mr. Ritter....

Amd they recorded the 'event' to be shown to the jury at the approriate time.

A mere hundred years ago, it wouldn't have raised eyebrows if a man married a 15 year old, right in the heartland of the USA.

#98 | Posted by bellaspapa at 2010-01-17 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Right, my grand father married my grandmother when she was 16 (i've been told). men usually died in their 50s if they lasted that long back then. I think he was 17 or 18...

Marrying someone and making a family was acceptable at those young ages. However, I seriously doubt a man in his 50s jacking off in front of a 15 yr old girl would be taken with a grain of salt back then.

I don't have a daughter but If I did I wouldn't want this to happen.

On the flip side -
There have been several cases around here where a young woman (in her 20s) teaching school got off really easy for having sex with 14 and 15 yrolds she was "teaching" at school... There is definately a double standard that I can see...

"On the flip side -
There have been several cases around here where a young woman (in her 20s) teaching school got off really easy for having sex with 14 and 15 yrolds she was "teaching" at school... There is definately a double standard that I can see..."

I completely agree. But face it, if your a 14, 15 year old boy who is lucky enough to have sex with one of those gals (the ones I am aware of were pretty hot looking) your king of the 9th grade!

I miss you Miss Greenburg . . .

Read a great interview with Jerry Lee Lewis in the latest Equire magazine...lol didn't want to talk about that marriage to the 13 year old ~ wait she was 15 Jerry still says