It will be interesting to see which way the clock will be moved, unless I missed it in the article.

BWAH! I must have read the original title differently and put "forward" - hopefully rcade will fix it, but my money is on "forward".

Happy Extinction you morons!

Why? Is it going to warm up?

Happy Extinction you morons!

#3 | Posted by Sully at 2010-01-13 02:03 PM

Here's another reason, I suppose...

Jan 13

Iranian Scientist Assassinated as US Steps Up War Threats

Massoud Ali Mohammadi, one of Iran's leading nuclear scientists, was assassinated in Tehran Tuesday, just two days after the top US military commander in the region announced that the Pentagon has drawn up plans to bomb Iranian nuclear sites.

Iran's press TV commented, "It seems that kidnap and assassination of Iranian scientists is on the agenda of the United States."

Given the growing bellicosity of Washington's threats over the Iranian nuclear program, together with the fact that the US and Israel are the leading practitioners of the criminal policy of targeted assassinations, Tehran's charges cannot be dismissed so easily.

I dunno Nanc, I am thinking it will move backwards.

I am thinking it will move backwards

And she is praying it will move forwards. If it does move forward it's -- "god's will". If it moves backwards it's -- "America ignores god". The latter option, conveniently enough, will also hasten the end time.

It's the 21st century. Shouldn't the clock be digital by now?

The body bags and little rags of children torn in two
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put the finger right on you
As the madmen play on words and make us all dance to their song
To the tune of starving millions to make a better kind of gun.

The killer's breed or the Demon's seed,
The glamour, the fortune, the pain,
Go to war again, blood is freedom's stain
But don't you pray for my soul anymore.

2 minutes to midnight,
The hands that treaten doom.

IRON MAIDEN

This applies too:

The natives are restless tonight, sir
Cooped up on estates with no hope in sight
They need some kind of distraction
We can give them that
'Cause they'd die if they only had something to die for
They'd kill if they only had something to kill for
They'd cheer if they only had something to cheer for
Yeah, we can give them that
So it's off to war we go (I never believed it)
Bring out all the flags (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight

It's working like a dream, sir
Half the nation are hooked on the bait
Waiting for the next victorious instalment
Yeah, we can give them that
'Cause it's no surprise that young men are heroes
It's no surprise that young men are strong
It's no surprise that young men are foolish
We've known that all along
Exciting pictures on News at Ten (I never believed it)
Read all the crap on all the front pages (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight

New Model Army

Ah, Kanrei beat me to the punch with the "Two Minutes to Midnight" reference.

#8 - you would be dead wrong - I pray several times a day that this nation will come to its senses, turn back to God so we may be spared. Although I anxiously look forward to the hereafter I also believe we may stand a chance.

2 Chronicles 7:14

A fellow peacenik, now at the great anti-gun rally in the sky, noted the nuclear clock having been moved a minute closer to midnight and asked me where I thought the earth clock was.

"Surely after midnight," I replied.

"Yeah," he said, "but the moral course of behavior is to behave as if this were not yet the case."

By the time "they" come for your SUVs, it won't matter at a whit. herm

"Bomb kills Iran nuclear physicist" I would think that the US would be a little more subtle if it wanted to eliminate someone.

#8 - you would be dead wrong - I pray several times a day that this nation will come to its senses, turn back to God so we may be spared. Although I anxiously look forward to the hereafter I also believe we may stand a chance.

Or you could be wrong dead. Looking forward to being dead and in the hereafter doesn't seem to make good sense to me. What if this is your only chance to be a part of this Universe and you blow it chasing after the intents of a Higher Power you obviously do not understand?

The evidence says otherwise, Donnerboy, but if I'm wrong what have I to lose? If you, on the other hand, are wrong you lose your soul. If it's a cruel joke as some imply, I lose nothing. What do you lose by having it all be true?

"...if I'm wrong what have I to lose? If you, on the other hand, are wrong you lose your soul. If it's a cruel joke as some imply, I lose nothing. What do you lose by having it all be true?"

If I may jump in, Nancy, the only thing you have to lose is the only life you'll ever know. You opt to forgo good stuff,as you invented a deity that equates "fun" with something you label "sin." I have no idea if there's a nanosecond between life and nothingness in which you realize that it was all a shuck and a jive. That there ain't no heaven, no hell, no soul, no big daddy in the sky, no harp you'll suddenly know how to play while experiencing eternity on a cloud. It was all a gimmick to get you to do their bidding. And you bit. herm

I have no idea

#18 | Posted by herm at 2010-01-13 05:19 PM

#18 | Posted by herm - who said I've "forgone" anything good? My life is a barrel of fun!

"who said I've 'forgone' anything good? My life is a barrel of fun!..."

I suppose that ice cream socials, singing about old oaken crosses and shouting hallelujahs at appropriate moments can be a virtual barrel of laffs, Nancy, and I'm sure that you don't wear a nun's habit or think your deity insists on chastity. But you surely do things you'd rather not do, shun things you'd prefer to do, because you're concerned with "eternal life" on something other than a demonic barbecue. Or do you have a hidden church somewhere which believes otherwise? herm

...if I'm wrong what have I to lose?

Other than wasting your life chasing after something that did not exist and counting on an afterlife that never came? I guess not much.

The evidence says otherwise...
And I would sure love to see some of that "evidence".

Well, hello Donner!!! How are you?? Well I hope!

"Other than wasting your life chasing after something that did not exist and counting on an afterlife that never came? I guess not much."

He exists!

The evidence is in the Bible, where over 500 people saw Christ after His resurrection. But...I'm sure you will make excuses for the writings to suit your belief, so no sense in rehashing the same old same old.

I don't call it wasting a life by following the commands of love, patience and peace. I don't call it wasting a life by being kind and compassionate towards others. I don't find it a waste to serve those less fortunate...and so on and so on.

You might, but I don't.

And many people have documented life after death experiences.

At any rate, hope you're doing well and I know it's a little late, but Happy New Year!

"The evidence is in the Bible"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA

Moses is a myth for idiots, too.

The evidence is in the bible? The bible speaks truth. It says so in the bible...

A few good ones from www.godlessgeeks.com:

TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. DESIGN ARGUMENT
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore God exists.
MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore God exists.
MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my youth I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore God exists.
MORAL ARGUMENT (III)
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) There's no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys; you're obviously well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore God exists. herm

If God existed, you wouldn't need an "argument from anything" to prove it.

Forgiveness is for those who have severely fucked up and need a get out of jail free card.

If I may jump in, Nancy, the only thing you have to lose is the only life you'll ever know. You opt to forgo good stuff,as you invented a deity that equates "fun" with something you label "sin." I have no idea if there's a nanosecond between life and nothingness in which you realize that it was all a shuck and a jive. That there ain't no heaven, no hell, no soul, no big daddy in the sky, no harp you'll suddenly know how to play while experiencing eternity on a cloud. It was all a gimmick to get you to do their bidding. And you bit. herm

#18 | Posted by herm

I'm with herm. Makes total sense to me.

Religion is like Santa Claus for grown-ups.
(Sing along) "He knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sakes...."

People use the "God excuse" to explain what cannot be explained at this current point in time by science.
They also use it to commit unspeakable atrocities and get away with them, because who questions God's will (but the intelligent).

They did it then and they do it now.

If God existed, you wouldn't need an "argument from anything" to prove it.

#26 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-01-13 08:37 PM

Besides, with proof of God and knowledge of all he is or would be, or proof of no God, and I'd be left with a fact that I'd have to adhere to. Faith and the freedom to interpret one's existence is much more interesting.

Everyone should be worried. Really.

We're all gonna die!

5 minutes to midnight and the end?

Who is the drama queen that controls the clock?

What is the threat, al Qaida, global warming?

Are you fucking kidding me?

How about the Cuban missile crisis?

If God existed, you wouldn't need an "argument from anything" to prove it.

#26 | Posted by ZombieHunter

So much in life is based on faith--Christianity, global warming, Obama's promises, Zombie and Letusprey's conversions,etc.---"faith is being sure of what I hope for and certain of what I do not see."

Herm - the ONLY regret I have had since being saved is that I didn't know sooner what I know now. My life is better than I deserve.

So much in life is based on faith--Christianity, global warming, Obama's promises, Zombie and Letusprey's conversions

Christianity - a matter of faith

Global warming - a matter of facts being misrepresented and ignored by individuals with faith in a certain cause for the phenomenon

Obama's promises - a matter of saying the right thing at the right time to the right people and hoping they forget them

Conversions - Not sure I follow you on that one.

Shirley, you jest...

Doomsday clock being changed...again...well, that's a contradiction of terms.

#13 | Posted by nanc

god doesn't exist...in any way, shape or form, and the hammered in belief only keeps good people from making this earth a real paradise.

Religion...the ultimate socialism...to make the masses obey without force by scaring them into compliance for a future not yet determined.

You can quote me on that.

I'm more concerned about Apophis and the like than I am the likelihood of suffering in hell.

Religion...the ultimate socialism...to make the masses obey without force by scaring them into compliance for a future not yet determined.

You can quote me on that.

#39 | Posted by UpL8 at 2010-01-14 12:35 AM

#26 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-01-13 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Doomsday clock will move tomorrow

Originally, the clock was set to count down to atomic war. Now, though, it follows events more broadly, metaphorically ticking toward not just nuclear war but also environmental destruction, bioengineering disasters, zombie outbreaks, and Conan moving to 12:05.

That makes sense.

FTA: It was created by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists in 1947, two years after the U.S dropped the first atomic bombs on Japan in World War II. It was originally set at seven minutes to midnight.

So from the end of WWII we've only gotten worse?

That's disheartening.

The clock has been altered 18 times since then by the Bulletin's scientific board. This now includes Professor Stephen Hawking and 18 other Nobel laureates.

WooT! Hawking's cool beans.

The latest recorded time was two minutes to midnight in 1953 as the Cold War heated up between the U.S and Soviet Union.

The Cuban Missile Crisis never factored? Interesting.

In 2007 it was wound on to five minutes to midnight, to reflect the failure to solve problems posed by nuclear weapons.

Nuclear Proliferation = FAIL.

Spud's guess is it's moving forward.

AGW will be cited.

The controversy will flare up anew.

And so it goes.

#8 | Posted by BluSky at 2010-01-13 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hate to pee on your bigoted rant, but the vast majority of Christians do not adhere to the whole Rapture thing. It is only the domain of a few fringes.

On second thought, I do enjoy pissing on fools. That's why Let-U-Spray is so much fun to have around.

You opt to forgo good stuff,as you invented a deity that equates "fun" with something you label "sin."

#18 | Posted by herm at 2010-01-13 05:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just what kind of 'fun' are you talking about? Seriously. I'm a Bible-believing Christian and I have fun all day.

I love my family, my work and my activities. I travel, meet new people, experience different cultures. I like to read and write, teach, cook, ride motorcycles. Lots of other things.

I can think of nothing that I might want to do that would be considered a grave 'sin.'

So, how about a few examples of the fun you've had that I'm somehow denied.

god doesn't exist...in any way, shape or form,

#39 | Posted by UpL8 at 2010-01-14 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are quite emphatic. I await your conclusive proof.

I await your conclusive proof.

If God existed there would be no question of proof.

Since he doesn't there is no way to prove conclusively that he doesn't.

How do you prove conclusively that tooth fairies and unicorns don't exist?

Be Well.

Hate to say it, but you give Christianity a bad name, Vernon. Always snarky, spitting, mean spirited, closed minded. Then again, Toms de Torquemada called himself a 'Christian' too as he sent one human after another to be burned to death or vivisected. He had his justifications down pat too.

Jesse V program shows details of private richguy and gubmint bigwigs 2012 doomsday shelter preparations. One is sposedly under the Denver airport.

I would only agree that a symbolic clock is as nourishing to the intellect as a photo of oxygen to a drowning man.

-- Dr. Manhattan

A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference. Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?

Dr. Jon Osterman.

The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else. Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us.

Roschach

But the world is so full of people, so crowded with these miracles that they become commonplace and we forget... I forget. We gaze continually at the world and it grows dull in our perceptions. Yet seen from the another's vantage point, as if new, it may still take our breath away. Come... dry your eyes, for you are life, rarer than a quark and unpredictable beyond the dreams of Heisenberg. Come, dry your eyes. And let's go home.

~Dr Manhatten aka Dr. Jon Osterman

/Wikiquotes rawks.

Be Well.

I'm leaving this galaxy for one less complicated.

...perhaps I'll create some

Be Well.

Rorschach has so many good lines.

One of Spud's faves...

"None of you seem to understand, I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!."

Luffs it.

Be Well.

Now, though, it follows events more broadly, metaphorically ticking toward not just nuclear war but also environmental destruction, bioengineering disasters, zombie outbreaks, and Conan moving to 12:05.

I've got one of those covered.

If God existed there would be no question of proof.

Since he doesn't there is no way to prove conclusively that he doesn't.

#48 | Posted by dethspud at 2010-01-14 03:50 AM

#37 | Posted by MSgt - I'm not kidding and don't call me Shirley!

Vernon - I don't believe I'm of the "fringe" and believe in "the rapture thing" for the simple reason that when Yeshua RETURNS with tens of thousands of His saints (those who accepted Him as Savior) are riding with Him - They have to have been taken up to be riding back with Him to straighten this place out. Process of elimination and no disrespect meant.

UPDATE:

"Doomsday clock is moved one minute further AWAY from fateful midnight... thanks to Obama
By Claire Bates"

Doomsday clock is moved one minute further AWAY from fateful midnight... thanks to Obama

THANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBA
MATHANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFORO
BAMATHANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFO
ROBAMATHANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGOD
FOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBAMATHANKG
ODFOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBAMATHAN
KGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBAMATH
ANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBAMA
THANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFOROBA
MATHANKGODFOROBAMATHANKGODFORO
BAMA

Not only did he stop a large plywood clock with no internal clockworks, but he got it to move backwards. (Hyperventilating AND drooling!)

The Left..

"However, the BAS board insisted there had been 'signs of collaboration' between the major world players in dealing with nuclear security and climate stabilisation."

What a fuckin' joke!!!!
I for one am glad to hear that N. Korea & Iran are on board with getting rid of their nukes!!!
"Climate stabilisation"? First, it's spelled wrong, way to use the spell check, eh!!! Second, global warming is really whipping my ass, I'm in FL and tomorrow is the first day in 8 that we won't be BELOW freezing at night!!! Thank God, yes God exists you morons, Al Gore & his band of merry eco-warriors (AKA kool-aid drinkin' douche nozzle clown shoes) have saved the planet.
This clock has as much credibility as the Nobel Prize now.

#64 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at

If they had moved it towards midnight it would have been because Obama is leading us down the path towards socialism/fascism/killing my grandmaism/ismism. They moved it backwards though, without fail you are here to prove that you will cry and bitch and piss in your pants no matter what hapens, even something as simple as this.

If they had moved it towards midnight it would have been because Obama is leading us down the path towards socialism/fascism/killing my grandmaism/ismism. They moved it backwards though, without fail you are here to prove that you will cry and bitch and piss in your pants no matter what hapens, even something as simple as this.

#66 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2010-01-14 01:18 PM

Nogov:

Still beats the shit out of Dubya's second term, when I fully expected the hands to go flying to 12:37 or some damn thing like that.

but my money is on "forward".

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2010-01-13 02:01 PM

"Climate stabilisation"? First, it's spelled wrong, way to use the spell check, eh!!!

You do realize that our neighbours across the pond spell things differently, right?

#67 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at

The Nobel Committee gave him that award, the. . . . ? Uh, dick heads who move the hands on this clock did what they do. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone here had anything to do with either event.

As far as both of them go, they are either as relevant as a fart in a skunk's den, in which case everyone needs to simply shut the fuck up about them, or they actually mean something and are worth arguing over. It can't be both.

#68 | Posted by MaryTylerWhore at

They could have moved that shit to 1 PM and we would still be here. Broke as fuck, but still here none the less.

Once again, it matters or it doesn't. Which is it?

"While some douchebags are ready to rush to judgement and declare Obama a failure, "other douchebags are rushing to declare him a success."

Reality Check

This time last year there was fear the economy Bush left in his wake would collapse all together.

Right now the economy is expanding at a 3.5 percent and Household purchases climbed 3.4 percent, the most in two years.

I don't know about you but in the real world were people work, this IS a success.

god doesn't exist...in any way, shape or form,

#39 | Posted by UpL8 at 2010-01-14 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are quite emphatic. I await your conclusive proof.

#47 | Posted by vernon at 2010-01-14 03:43 AM | Reply

Ahhh good ole Vermin is displaying his mastery of logic in demanding that some proof of God NOT existing be produced.

Master of all things is that Verm with his revelation that Eurodisney is located in Florida to this now!

Just another fine example of the superb wing ding intellect in action!

How do you prove conclusively that tooth fairies and unicorns don't exist?

Verm uses his calculator.

Right now the economy is expanding at a 3.5 percent and Household purchases climbed 3.4 percent, the most in two years.

I don't know about you but in the real world were people work, this IS a success.

#72 | Posted by Redneckville at 2010-01-14 03:36 PM

I dunno Nanc, I am thinking it will move backwards.

#7 | Posted by 726

I'd be happy to bet you on that. With Iran getting closer to a bomb and climate change getting even bigger in the news, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't going anywhere soon, and the recent terrorist attempt. All this tells me it's moving forward. It will be set at 3 minutes is my bet.

god doesn't exist...in any way, shape or form,

#39 | Posted by UpL8 at 2010-01-14 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, there is rock solid proof existing that there is life after death. More than one scientist has reached that conclusion through extensive tests, demonstrations through mediums, and actual contact with the afterlife. All of which were conducted under the strictest conditions. People who are dead but have spoken to the living call God the Father of the Universe or other names, but usually not God.

So, it does seem, through undeniable proof, that a creator of the universe does exist. Do some research yourself. Just google afterlife and you'll come up with tons of stuff that is credible. It just depends on whether you choose to believe the evidence or not. If life doesn't exist after death how do you explain the countless experiences with ghosts? How also would you explain a full bodied apparition appearing in front of people through the use of a physical medium?

"I'd be happy to bet you on that. With Iran getting closer to a bomb and climate change getting even bigger in the news, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't going anywhere soon, and the recent terrorist attempt. All this tells me it's moving forward. It will be set at 3 minutes is my bet.
#76 | Posted by everlong at 2010-01-14 05:24 PM"

I'll take that bet...

What are we playing for, Trueblue?

"What are we playing for, Trueblue?
#79 | Posted by everlong at 2010-01-14 06:18 PM"

Before you go any further, in fairness I should warn you that it was already moved BACK (about 10am EST) this morning.

#64 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at

If they had moved it towards midnight it would have been because Obama is leading us down the path towards socialism/fascism/killing my grandmaism/ismism. They moved it backwards though, without fail you are here to prove that you will cry and bitch and piss in your pants no matter what hapens, even something as simple as this.

#66 | Posted by NoGov4Me

"Something as simple as this" is exactly what this is. It's a meaningless. We're on the road to a second great depression and the communist clown running the show gets another meaningless kudos.

NoGov4me...what a crock that is.

We're one minute safer now?

Cos Obama is more constructive than Bush and seems intent on addressing the worlds problems rather than exacerbating them?

Meh, Spud can buy into that argument.

Still, the clock is ticking.

Be Well.

#81 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at

And the movement of the hands on the "clock" is what caused that? Has it made it any better? Any worse?

The only thing that is any different as far as I can tell is that you and thousands and thousands of your fellow hysterical reactionaries need to change your pants... AGAIN!

Yes and we're one day closer to summer, so I guess we should bow down and thank Omama for that too.

#84 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at

While you're at it make sure you thank him for the colon cleansing that huge events like the backward movement of the doomsday clock provide for you and your fellow republicans. Normal people have to pay for those sorts of things.

#85 | Posted by NoGov4Me

LOL. You really got to get a new name. I take it that is a throw back from last year. I'll thank Omama when he does some of the things he said he was going to do. Start with getting rid of the patriot act and all the culture of corruption the dems bitched about. Washington is just as corrupt now as it was then.

Did he ever say he was going to get rid of the "Patriot Act" or have you simply decided to start making things up that will make you shit in your pants?

I'm pretty sure he voted to extend it while he was a senator, I'd like to see a link for a quote where he said that's what he was going to do.

NoGov's right. Obama did vote for the Patriot Act's extension as Senator, something his douchey supporters rightly criticized Bush for, but generally gave Obama a pass on.