Perhaps this bodes well for Obama's support of much of the House version of health care, including a national exchange and ending antitrust exemptions for insurers.

I'm sure if any president's party had the majorities Obama enjoys, they'd be just as "successful."

Yeah, getting 60 votes in the Sen was SO easy.

Winning streak on what? Pelosi and Reid have done all the heavy lifting while Obama is out sinking putts.

"Now, watch this drive!" - Got War? Bush

Yeah, getting 60 votes in the Sen was SO easy.

Dunno about easy, but it sure was costly.

Yeah, getting 60 votes in the Sen was SO easy.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-13 10:48 AM

(and then they needlessly gave up the drug imports as well)

This just means that Obama has more ownership of what results come of his actions.

which is not what corky wants......he couldn't get out of bed in the morning if he couldn't blame the republicans for his coffee not being right.

#7 | Just like up on Cripple Creek, he makes my points for me.

#8 I keep telling you DECAF, Agador Eberly.

#7 | Just like up on Cripple Creek, he makes my points for me.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-13 11:05 AM

It's called "compromise".

Not that most GOPhers are familiar with the term.

Obama's scoring in Congress like Larry Craig in an airport bathroom... early, often, and behind closed doors.

His success was 96.7 percent on all the votes where we said he had a clear position in both the House and the Senate

How many of those were there? Two? Three?

Say...that is pretty good for an ass clown in an empty suit wearing no clothes.

How many of those were there? Two? Three?

Yeah and they were all stupid non-issues like The Worldwide Economic Crisis, The War in Iraq, the War in Afghanistan, The expanding terrorist threats, Health Care for all Americans.

Sheese...What a waste of time.

"FACTS, FACTS WE DON'T WANT NO STINKING FACTS"...The Fox-Republicans!!!!!!

It's called "compromise".

#11 | Posted by Corky

Damn, the dems are compromising with the dems. What a great day in the nation.

Enjoy it while it lasts. So other than spending trillions of other people's money, what are these great accomplishments by Obama and Congress. I don't see any. Heathcare: on the ragged edge of passing, in spite of waning public support in an election year. Afghanistan: Bad and getting worse, plus another 700 billion this year down the toilet. Is that what he campaigned on? Unemployment: he got what he asked for, and current unemployment is worse than his own do-nothing projections. Stimulus jobs "saved" a proven fraud. But the Government sure is hiring. Is that what the people wanted? Cap and tax stalled and unlikely to pass. War on terror failing miserably, security and intelligence in a shambles. Rumbles of yet another ineffective stimulus package, unwanted by the public but can still be shoved through by the temporary Democratic majority in Congress. Is that what defines "success"?

Winning streak on what? Pelosi and Reid have done all the heavy lifting while Obama is out sinking putts.

#4 | Posted by wisgod at 2010-01-13 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Do you really want to compare vacation time between Bush and Obama? After all, Bush was out golfing only a few weeks after starting a War and took RECORD amounts of vacation. The American people already rejected that "he took three whole days to respond to the Christmas day plot" line from the right. They'll reject a vacation argument too.

I don't see any. Heathcare: on the ragged edge of passing, in spite of waning public support in an election year. Afghanistan: Bad and getting worse, plus another 700 billion this year down the toilet. Is that what he campaigned on? Unemployment: he got what he asked for, and current unemployment is worse than his own do-nothing projections. Stimulus jobs "saved" a proven fraud. But the Government sure is hiring. Is that what the people wanted? Cap and tax stalled and unlikely to pass. War on terror failing miserably, security and intelligence in a shambles. Rumbles of yet another ineffective stimulus package, unwanted by the public but can still be shoved through by the temporary Democratic majority in Congress. Is that what defines "success"?

#17 | Posted by Dinsey at 2010-01-13 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow...you regurgitate the Limbaugh talking points like a true tea-bagger. Ignore reality and stay in your fantasy land...it suits you well.

Health Care for all Americans.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy

When did they pass that? I must have been sleeping.

Wow, I guess this must counter all those plunging popularity polls on the Won! Quick, put up another inane stat. That way you won't have to admit putting your head in the sand when reality gets in the way.

Well, duh with all the liberal drones. The real accomplishment is to keep getting so many idiots to keep voting these turds into office, then complaining everything is going to shit. Massachusetts may finally get it right. Vote them all out!

For a 100% rating, get rid of Reid and Pelosi.

Health Care for all Americans.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy

When did they pass that? I must have been sleeping.

#20 | Posted by Sniper

Indeed you were sleeping...or playing Halo.

I should have said Obama AND Pelosi leading the charge...

The American people already rejected that "he took three whole days to respond to the Christmas day plot" line from the right. They'll reject a vacation argument too.

#18 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

You and I both know that has never stopped the RightieTighties from making shit up and repeating it over and over as though it were still true even after it had been thoroughly debunked.

dam donnie boy, I guess it is the law of the land now. You moron, it still has to go thru confrence and then both the house and senate in it's final form. You moron!

Yeah and they were all stupid non-issues like...The War in Iraq, the War in Afghanistan, The expanding terrorist threats

Please specifically post what Obama has done with regard to those issues on which he needed the approval of Congress.

"Health Care for All Americans" will not be passed anytime soon. Even the current farce leaves millions uninsured. More than a trillion dollars just so nObama can try to say something positive during the State of the Union. And the Retort libs will pee themselves with excitement as their Messiah reads from his teleprompter.

SPOKANEJIM, I agree!

#30, thank you, I don't get much agreement here on the Retort for some reason. (opening for some leftist poster....)

So other than spending trillions of other people's money, what are these great accomplishments by Obama and Congress? I don't see any. Afghanistan: Bad and getting worse, plus another 700 billion this year down the toilet. Is that what he campaigned on? Unemployment: he got what he asked for, and current unemployment is worse than his own do-nothing projections. Stimulus jobs "saved" a proven fraud, but the Government sure is hiring! Is that what the people wanted? Cap and tax stalled and unlikely to pass. War on terror failing miserably, security and intelligence in a shambles. Rumbles of yet another ineffective stimulus package, unwanted by the public but can still be shoved through by the temporary Democratic majority in Congress. Is that what defines "success"?

#17 | Posted by Dinsey

Dinsey provides one of the few logical assessments of "success" described in this thread.
Success in regards to what? Certainly not what is good for American taxpayers.
Congress should be glad there's still cable TV or Americans might (I know it's a long shot) might vote the bastards out and make sure they go.
They might even replace them with representatives who ACTUALLY "represent" the people they are supposed to represent.

Please specifically post what Obama has done with regard to those issues on which he needed the approval of Congress.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2010-01-13 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you think he just funds these Wars on his own?

obama is an incompetent, phoney, baloney dog and pony show, if he did'nt have majorities in both houses, his agenda to bancrupt America(ns) would come back and bite him on the ass. He is proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote. And that elections have consequences. He has divided this country beyond repair. All those politicians that sign on to this health-care debacle will pay, the backlash is coming, we will not forget, that cluster fuck bill is antiConstitutional and was designed to take the power of government away from the WE the PEOPLE, as well as infringe upon OUR freedoms and rights.
Time to put a person in the white house, someone with intelligence, someone who can lead, someone with honor and character, Palin would be a great choice.

"Now, watch this drive!" - Got War? Bush

#5 | Posted by Corky

Didn't you get that from Michael Moore?

LOL!!! Caughtcha repeating lies!!!

Just to keep your integrity, your are hereby convicted and sentenced to seeing the "real truth"

"Health Care for All Americans" will not be passed anytime soon. Even the current farce leaves millions uninsured. More than a trillion dollars just so nObama can try to say something positive during the State of the Union. And the Retort libs will pee themselves with excitement as their Messiah reads from his teleprompter.

#29 | Posted by SpokaneJim

If Obama says anything positive during the state of the union address, he will be lying!

He might have been able to continue if he hadn't run out of money.

Success??

Now that is laughable!

Do you think he just funds these Wars on his own?

LOL. What Congressman would vote against funding a war? They'd lose their seat for "not helping our troops." Even the immensely unpopular Iraq war wasn't stopped by Congress via that avenue.

Nice try though. Anything else?

"Obama and the Democrats in Congress take the American People For a Ride"

Translation:

Obama's Success with Congress 'Unprecedented'

This is amzing shit!

thank you, I don't get much agreement here on the Retort for some reason. (opening for some leftist poster....)

Don't be a whiny pubbie. Nobody likes a snot nosed high school dropout with an attitude.

His success was 96.7 percent on all the votes where we said he had a clear position in both the House and the Senate

How many of those were there? Two? Three?

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2010-01-13 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag: Failed Math

Didn't you get that from Michael Moore?

LOL!!! Caughtcha repeating lies!!!

Just to keep your integrity, your are hereby convicted and sentenced to seeing the "real truth"

www.nationalreview.com

Michael Moore Hates America

The National Rtard wrote sommat bad about MM?

Ya don't say!

Shocked, Spud is shocked.

Spud has seen both films.

There's more truth is Moore's film than there is in it's counterpoint piece.

While Moore's tactics of occasionally not explaining to some of his subjects why he's filming them is, admittedly, kinda tacky it is usually done because otherwise the subject wouldn't give the interview.

Particularly now that the right have tried to demonize Moore and succeeded in doing so in many weak minds.

The right still can't stand that Moore was right about Iraq, right about Bush and Cheney and right about wot's wrong with America right now.

Please tell us why you think Corky was telling lies when he referred to Dumbya's infamous "Now watch this drive" moment.

Do you think Dumbya never sed that or sommat?

Do you think at all?

Be Well.

This constant referral to yourself in third person,

the Yoda-esque cadences,

the insipid sign off (Be Well, Jesus spare me)

must seem mighty clever to you when posting as you drool into your bong yet again, Spudnik;

but out here in reality they are oh so lame.

PS: Please support the Francois Duvalier Foundation to promote positive aspects of the Duvalier presidency.

It's called "compromise".

Not that most GOPhers are familiar with the term.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2010-01-13 11:15 AM | Reply
^^
Seems closer to pyrrhic victory than compromise...but thats just me.

Systems a joke regardless of party so the argument's moot anyway.

Loh

Corky - COMPROMISE? Deals done behind closed doors- no republican let in. No capitalistic idea accepted (Allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines, reduction of mandates, national certification of Doctors and Insurance companies, capping lawsuits, malpractice law changes, expansion of FSA's, ect.)

Completely internal to the Democrats.

That is Compromise?

He owns both parts of congress by wide majority - virtually no other president has had that.

If you call 10% unemployment, trippling of the deficit, putting the US on the brink of default, government take over of large portions of the economy a success - you need your head examed.

( - but the government won't allow it - you have to call the IRS to get authority to get that test and its not allowed under Obama Care)

They'll reject a vacation argument too.

#18 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

the president is never 'on vacation.' Wherever he is, he is still the prez and still working.

When Bush went to Texas, he was not sitting around drinking beer and watching Ginsu Knife commercials on cable.

He was the working president all the time -- he just didn't like being in the White House.

Your perceptions are warped by Bill Clinton, who never owned a home, and had nowhere to go. Besides that, Clinton LOVED being treated like a king in the White House.

Nobody likes a snot nosed high school dropout with an attitude.

#41 | Posted by RingMaster at 2010-01-14 01:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

yet, you seem to resonate well with the rest of the illiterate, uninformed snot nosed high school dropouts with an attitude!

"When Bush went to Texas, he was not sitting around drinking beer and watching Ginsu Knife commercials on cable."

Link, please.

#42 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-01-14 02:44 AM | Reply | Flag: Has no concept of hyperbole, brevity

One of my biggest beefs with President Clinton was that he did so little with his popularity. He didn't take enough risks on legislative efforts that would be unpopular in the short-term but would give people a reason to elect Democrats in the long term, like health care reform.

That's certainly not the case with Obama. I think his first year will be a record he can run on successfully in 2012, particularly in regard to economic stimulus and health care. There are a lot of good initiatives in that bill, and the removal of pre-existing conditions and the requirement to get insurance will be game changers. Millions of people will have better lives in this country if we can fix the health insurance debacle.

One of my biggest beefs with President Clinton was that he did so little with his popularity. He didn't take enough risks on legislative efforts that would be unpopular in the short-term but would give people a reason to elect Democrats in the long term, like health care reform.

Clinton did try and reform Health Care but the media portrayed it as a Hillary initiative and sank it before it could begin.

Be Well.

Happy New Year to you all. Thanks. I can't think of a better way to start 2006 then here at this fantastic hospital -- a hospital that's full of healers and compassionate people who care deeply about our men and women in uniform. It's also full of courageous young soldiers, Marines, airmen -- men and women who are serving our country and making great sacrifice. I'm just overwhelmed by the great strength of character of not only those who have been wounded, but of their loved ones, as well. And so, thank you all for bringing great credit to our country.

As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself -- not here at the hospital, but in combat with a Cedar. I eventually won. The Cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel.

george w bush
Jan 1, 2006

President Visits Troops at Brooke Army Medical Center
Brooke Army Medical Center
San Antonio, Texas

Death - they did not "portray it" as a Hillary initiative - it was her inititive.

She held the meetings (and closed the doors just like this time) invited the participants, set the agenda, TOLD the various groups what the outcome would be and what they would get hit with if they did not go along.

How is it that is WASN'T her initiative?

Woke - Bush is no longer president - you guys have nothing positive to say so it back to Bush.

By the way:

Fayetteville , N.C. (retired from Special Forces) that picture of Geo. W. visiting the wounded at Ft. Hood .. I got this reply:
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"What is even better is the fact George W. Bush heard about Fort Hood, got in his car without any escort, apparently they did not have time to react, and drove to Fort Hood. He was stopped at the gate and the guard could not believe who he had just stopped. Bush only ask for directions to the hospital then drove on. The gate guard called that "The president Is on ' Fort Hood and driving to the hospital." The base went bananas looking for Obama.

When they found it was Bush they immediately offered escort and Bush simply told them to shut up and let him visit the wounded and the dependents of the dead.

He stayed at Fort Hood for over six hours and was finally asked to leave by a message from the White House.

Obama flew in days later and held a "photo " session in a gym and did not even go to the hospital. All this I picked up from two soldiers here who happened to be at Fort Hood when it happened.

You can bash Bush policies all you want ..but when it comes to moral integrity I will take GW any day of the week compared to a man that has 875 documented lies.

By the way ..did you see the health care debate on CSPAN? Huh...neither did I...BECAUSE IT IS NOT THERE!...New era of "transparency"...make that 876

You can bash Bush policies all you want ..but when it comes to moral integrity I will take GW any day of the week.

~Frogshafter

Dumbya?

The guy who instituted torture as a policy?

The guy who lied the country into an unnecessary war?

That asshole doesn't have ANY moral integrity.

He's a War Criminal who should be on trial for his life.

K?

Be Well.

when it comes to moral integrity I will take GW any day of the week
#55 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER AT 2010-01-14 10:26 AM

Which is why I hold neocon/bush apologists like yourself responsible for the mess we are in after the last 8 years of unbridled republican disasters.....but I'll bet you think the potus of less than a year is responsible, and not the neocon/republican policies that have "guided" our govt for several decades, don't you?

There are none so blind as those who WILL not see.
(various attributed sources)

Link, please.

#49 | Posted by doc_sarvis

He was out playing golf with little o. That is where the well spoken light skinned negro is most of the time.

playing golf with little o. That is where the well spoken light skinned negro is most of the time.

Link, please.
(Don't worry, Snoops, when I direct that request your way it's a purely rhetorical device.)

"I give myself a solid B+"

Clinton did try and reform Health Care but the media portrayed it as a Hillary initiative and sank it before it could begin.

And the lesson he took from that was to triangulate and take no risks. It got him re-elected, but it left Democrats with very few signature accomplishments for the eight years the party ran the White House.

Pretty hard for a dem potus to have accomplishments with a do nothing, repug congress wrapped around him and spending $70 million of taxpayer money on 11 bogus investigations yielding zero indictments so they impeached him for a personal issue that should have never come up.....eh?

All after the USA was attacked in Feb 93, barely a month after BC took office by terrorists.

But, of course, as now, the repugs pretend our own potus is our enemy while ignoring the actual threat.