Popular Mechanics has leftist appeal now?

With high federal offices being given to the wives, sons and daughters of senior members of the Bush administration, the Hearst Corporation executives that publish Popular Mechanics magazine probably didn't worry about the ethical considerations of hiring a cousin of Michael Chertoff, a former Assistant Attorney General and the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as senior researcher.

But the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics (PM) plumbs new depths of nepotism and Hearst-style "yellow journalism" with its cover story about 9/11. PM's senior researcher, 25-year-old Benjamin Chertoff, authored a propagandistic cover story entitled "Debunking 9/11 Lies" which seeks to discredit all independent 9/11 research that challenges the official version of events.

L_R says, "But the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics (PM) plumbs new depths of nepotism ..."

PM certainly doesn't have much appeal to you. Does that make you a leftist?

"PM's senior researcher, 25-year-old Benjamin Chertoff, authored a propagandistic cover story entitled "Debunking 9/11 Lies" which seeks to discredit all independent 9/11 research that challenges the official version of events."

I would presume that none of Mr. Chertoff's debunking was a 'lie', because otherwise I don't think you could have resisted proving your point about it being "propagandistic", rather than just blathering about it like some Goebbels wannabe hatemonger with a Jew in his sights ...

Wow, Zat! Muons raining on 'us' continuously, and providing a possible plasma circuit for electricity ... very interesting ...

" possible plasma circuit for electricity "

Only in a mental hospital with internet access.

Zat turns a blind eye, "Only in a mental hospital with internet access."

How snide, Zat, but that's how you scientists of consensus do things isn't it?

I'm probably wrong, but this detector seems to indicate that negative atomic particles rain down on everything, continuously. Is that wrong? I also posted a reference, very scientifically written, which discusses the facts about upper atmospheric electic discharges, and how they may continue right on down to the very ground beneath our feet!

Yet, here you are mocking the facts, and without any attempt to explain them as you putatively can because of your extensive scientific background and peer review status ...

That's a good demonstration of why I think consensus science is the bunk, because it has snide little attack weasels like you agreeing with them ...

The 'institution' says, "Will no one rid me of these pesky plasma jerks?", and you're the cavalier ready to spit on them from your high horsey.

Thanks for the demonstration, Zat ...

#2 tad

No it doesn't. But I'm not a neo-con either. It doesn't appeal to me as propaganda toward whoever is in power.

You must have never heard the dodgeball Mr Chertoff played with whether or not he was indeed Michael's cousin. First, no. Then, I don't know. Then, he was trapped when it was confirmed with his mom. Once that was established, if he had a little credibility with his stints on FoxNews, that was then history.

I should have known it was a Hearst publication.I remember them publishing the article about Hughes Glomar explorer.Manganese nodules my ass.

#2 tad
...resisted proving your point about it being "propagandistic", rather than just blathering about it like some Goebbels wannabe hatemonger with a Jew in his sights ...

Btw, You're blathering about my "blathering" noting a major conflict of interest in nepotistic hiring a cousin of Michael Chertoff, a former Assistant Attorney General and the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as senior researcher?

L_R comes back, "You must have never heard the dodgeball Mr Chertoff played with whether or not he was indeed Michael's cousin."

BS, the "cousin" issue was researched long ago, and the mother said that they may be distant cousin to the reporter, not that they were.

Really, all you need to do is a little surfing to confirm that for yourself, but you'd rather comfort yourself in conspiracy ... like the neurotic leftists are famous for, ala "The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy".

You and the Clintons ...

Tadowe... you're my new hero. Your cogent, concise, and logical arguments are a work of art.

Tadowe... you're my new hero. Your cogent, concise, and logical arguments are a work of art.

Posted by LIBotomy

Agree......no sneering, acidic, profane, caustic insults needed.

#9 tadowe
mother said that they may be distant cousin

LOL. Were you born yesterday. You may believe whatever coverup "snopes" version you want at the risk of your own credibility.

providing a possible plasma circuit for electricity

All this plasma floating around, but somehow no evidence of it can be found (beyond the hot air liberated by cretins of the "plasma cosmology" movement). Oh, and please continue with your cosmological tirades. That shit reads like a bad Star Trek script. If you're going to spout a bunch of inane drivel about plasma and electricity, at least go to the trouble of making it somewhat consistent with the laws of electromagnetism. Or I guess you could keep doing what you're doing and provide humor for those who recognize pseudoscientific bullshit when they see it.

Oh well, that's the internet for you... tadpole is but one slithering lunatic in a lake of millions.

Zombie says, "All this plasma floating around, but somehow no evidence of it can be found ..."

There is little use even trying to discuss an issue with you intransigent ideologues; the above statement, for instance. You think it is factual and a biting retort, but it actually displays your ignorance. You completely dismiss Plasma Physics as a science without a subject to study, right?

Not a one of you consensus gangsters can begin to admit that the Solar "Wind" is an all encompassing flow of ions from the sun ... and why?

Because plasma provides a circuit for electricity ... and all of consensus science knows that electricity doesn't work over planetary distances ... and has thereby been dismissed as only a local phenomena, in The Theory of Everything (aka The Big Bang).

Consequently, even those who actually work with plasma, like some who are associated with the LHC or the NIF, dismiss it as any realistic conductor across planetary distances; even though they see its displays throughout space and within their own laboratory experiments.

No one, not even a yellow dog democrat, is as self-blinded than present day "cosmologists", and their coterie of "experts" and "mathematicians" from other sciences that surround them like acolytes, nor as snide and vicious in their responses to disagreement with their iconic theory.

Period.

You completely dismiss Plasma Physics as a science without a subject to study, right?

Plasma physics is an entirely legitimate area of study. It is simply being exploited by incompetent moonbats such as yourself.

all of consensus science knows that electricity doesn't work over planetary distances ... consequently, even those who actually work with plasma ... dismiss it as any realistic conductor across planetary distances

I can't find any actual rebuttal in your posts 97 and 98, only assumptions and an attempt to invent areas where Plasma cosmology is "wrong", but actually spouting nonsense.

If not, then post one, just one item where you feel you can defend it against an alternative, plasma explanation. Then, an actual debate can take place, instead of your snearing insults.

I'll bet you don't have the moxie.

So is plasma cosmology the politically correct way to say "electric universe"?

So is plasma cosmology the politically correct way to say "electric universe"?

So is plasma cosmology the politically correct way to say "electric universe"?

One and the same. I actually forgot the name "electric universe" but thanks for reminding me. It's much less dignified and therefore a far more fitting moniker for this heaping mass of horseshit.

I can't find any actual rebuttal in your posts 97 and 98

That's because your head is lodged too deep into your colon. There are three points in bold, and probably more at other points in the thread if you're thirsty for more punishment. Only a coward or a fool would lack the intellectual fortitude required to address these entirely valid criticisms.

If not, then post one, just one item where you feel you can defend it against an alternative, plasma explanation.

You might want to patch the holes I blew in your argument first (refer to link above), but I imagine you're eager to skip ahead to the part of this debate where I eviscerate your flimsy pseudoscientific babble. Again. So let's start with gravity.

Letus asks, "So is plasma cosmology the politically correct way to say 'electric universe'?"

I'm not sure what you intend to mean? It is electrical theory, as is gravitational theory. It is an electric universe, as some claim is a gravidic universe. Since 'gravidic' universe sounds a bit silly, I would imagine that as being the reason those mocking the theory would call it, simply, 'electric' universe, and as Zombie kindly demonstrates.

If the consensus can call their theory Gravitational cosmology, or Big Bang cosmology, then non-standard cosmology can use 'Plasma' to highlight that it constitutes 99% of the entire cosmos/universe ... and can provide circuits for the charge seperation which exists in an entire cosmos moving against all the rest of itself ...

Zombie whines, "There are three points in bold, and probably more at other points in the thread if you're thirsty for more punishment."

You fail to bring one of them, here, and explain how it discredits nsc-plasma? That is just so typical of you Georgie Porgy pseudo-scientists, you literally cannot explain the cut&pastes you present as some sort of "proof".

If you did so, then I could post the same ones I did before in answer to your c&p criticisms; most of which are political misdirections (that old non-scientific consensus) and not valid criticsms of plasma cosmology.

Indeed, the basics are now indicating that the beginnings of planetary, gravitational agglomeration began with static attraction between positive and negatively charged particles ... the beginnings of of plasma cosmology.

Let me know when you actually have a point to make, Tadpole.

Zombie yells over shoulder while heading for home, "Let me know when you actually have a point to make, Tadpole."

Your bravado is a good demonstration of face saving intellectual cowardice. You consensus creeps can't actually discuss any of the details of science, can you? Not even in generalities ...

Run on away, now, Chicken Little cosmologist ...

Run on away

Oh, dear, your glaring lack of a coherent argument is so... fearsome. If you've got something worth marginally more than its weight in human shit, now would be the time to spit it out. By the way, I'm still waiting on your response to the flaws I demonstrated in your laughable "electric universe". That would be a good place to start, dimwit.