Never let facts affect your political posturing fat boy.

While two Senate Democrats already have seen the handwriting on the wall and bailed out of re-election races, five others trail Republicans in states where President Obama and his trillion-dollar health-care-reform plan are increasingly unpopular.

2010 and 2012 Baby...

What does that have to do with Limbaugh ATAXPAYER???

#3 | Posted by danni at 2010-01-06 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

What does this have to do with the thread topic DANNI?

reading is fundamental, Cidney. Try it sometime.

The stupid is strong in this fat boy.

A freind is very involved in the diet industry. She said that the diet Limbaugh was on (Quick Weight Loss) could cause heart problems about a month before he experienced his heart pains. I think I'd think twice about trying that program. I bet he starts putting the weight back on now that he will probably stay away from that program. Keeping it off is usually harder than losing it.

Never let facts affect your political posturing fat boy.

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

That's right!!! The facts are;

He went to the emergency room first and then he went to a private room, all of which he paid for. How is that socalized medicine you sour old fart?

"He went to the emergency room first and then he went to a private room, all of which he paid for. How is that socalized medicine you sour old fart?"

Huh? "HE" paid for it?!? He's a member of AFTRA, and covered by their Health Plan.

rush just loves to tweak the liberals.

The issue was caused from back pain meds and he paid cash for the whole thing. He was told it would be 30% more expensive if it was paid for through insurance.

How closely does the Hawaii system resemble what has been proposed by the federal democrats?

RIF....

1. Hawaii is a shining example of progressive health care reform. In fact, Hawaii is so forward-thinking that the Senate bill excludes Hawaii from some of its provisions, because Hawaii's requirements on employers go farther than the federal legislation.

Since 1974, Hawaii has required all employers to provide quality health care benefits to any employee who works 20 hours a week or more. Because of Hawaii's increased coverage, reports the New York Times, "hospital and insurance executives in Hawaii say they have been able to innovate efficiencies. For instance, the state's top three medical providers are adopting electronic medical records -- years ahead of most mainland counterparts."
One reporter noted "the medical system in Hawaii is as close to socialized medicine as there is in the United States, and, much of the Democrats reform bill is based in the Hawaii system."

How closely does the Hawaii system resemble what has been proposed by the federal democrats?

#12 | Posted by JOE

It doesn't...

Dan--Rush said he gave them a credit card for the bill. He said he doesn't have health insurance.

And the hospital has to compete with other hospitals.

SEIU is having a wet dream.

"(Rush) said he doesn't have health insurance."

Do you have a link to where Rush said that? All I can find is others claiming it.

The issue was caused from back pain meds

Back OD'ing on the oxy is he?

Once a junkie, always a junkie...

"Rush said..."

Oh, he would never lie, would he?

It is great that the congress plan is based on the Hawaiin program. TOO BAD IT'S A LITTLE FUCKING WARMER IN HAWAII THAN MOST OF THE COUNTRY!

#15 No link unless you get the transcript from his show today.

Do you have a link to where Rush said that? All I can find is others claiming it.

#15 | Posted by Danforth

He just said it on the radio while I was out this noon. And he said he paid cash for his visit.

Rush, a multimillionaire, would have no need for healthcare insurance. The single-payer system worked perfectly, except in this case, it was Rush who was the payer.

Any of the government plans being proposed would make pay-as-you-go a crime.

I heard it on his show also, I usually listen to Air-America but after they ran out of the funds they stole from the NY Boys and Girls club they went off the air here. Shame

people in hawaii have the longest average lifspan of any state

"Never let facts affect your political posturing fat boy."

More than anyone, liberals tend to do this; not the other way around. You need to get YOUR facts straight. And I highly doubt Hawaii has socialized medicine.

Air America ran out of funds (and always will) due to lack of listeners. And why would Air America be lacking in listeners? Because their basic message is and always has been... specious.

"Air America ran out of funds (and always will) due to lack of listeners."

That was a few years ago, they seem to be doing ok now.

"Any of the government plans being proposed would make pay-as-you-go a crime."

Just more baloney.

If so called health reform passes the government will decide what level of care you receive. And it will cost you. You are going to pay more and get less. Say good bye to the American middle class. You will learn to live like those European's who live in tiny flats, drive tiny cars and are taxed beyond belief. If your over 59 you are too old for many life saving procedures and sent to a death counselor to prepare for your demise. You've heard "as long as you have your health"? If you want the government controlling that for you, GOOD-LUCK! Count me out.

You will learn to live like those European's who live in tiny flats, drive tiny cars and are taxed beyond belief.

#27 | Posted by bobinspokane at 2010-01-06 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag

Yeah thats it Bob...the size of the cars wouldn't have at least something to do with the way European cities are layed out at all with their narrow roads...ofcourse not.

And lemme guess...in your world their are absolutely no rich Europeans! Priceless!

Bob,

You got any links to your vast left wing health care conspiracy claim?

Huh? "HE" paid for it?!? He's a member of AFTRA, and covered by their Health Plan.

#9 | Posted by Danforth

He said HE PAID for it!! What part of that don't you understand?

Yup, totally socialized. BCBSHI owns a 78% market share. Looks more like an evil insurance monopoly than an evil government monopoly.

:P

But, please, don't let facts stop you from fantasizing.

Do you have a link to where Rush said that? All I can find is others claiming it.

#15 | Posted by Danforth

He said it on his program today.

"He said it on his program today."

Well, I guess that proves it. And I guess his point is If you make tens of millions a year, you don't need health insurance, and if you're tended to by a Union workforce, you'll be all right in the system.

Rush, a multimillionaire, would have no need for healthcare insurance.

#21 | Posted by Dinsey

Being a multi-millionaire would be a reason to have health insurance and to be well insured all around. He has actual assets to go after if he were to have major health problems or bills stemming from any other legal issues.

Limpblob kept claiming that the care was great and that it's proof that no reform is needed.

See, this is the tactic the bloated Opiate addict uses.....keep pretending health care is about the quality of care, all while pretending everyone has access to same care.

If we get this abomination of a health reform bill, I can't wait to hear the union members scream bloody murder when they are dumped into a public system that undercuts and rations all their hard won health care benefits they now receive through their private health insurance plans.

The brain dead on the left will never get that they are surrendering their bodies to the will of the state, that is, whether that body is treated for its illness and whether it lives or dies. That body under the state will just be another number, another "case" to be dispensed with by a nameless, faceless, totally emotionally uninvolved bureaucrat.

Believe it, Even Union Member Bodies will be something to dispose of for the good of the state.

As a resident here in Hawaii I can only say that it is not socialized medicine, both the employer and the employee share in the cost, but it is mandatory for employees to insure everyone that works over 20 hours a week. It is also very easy to get on DHS or welfare insurance if you are unemployed or disabled. So in that sense it is certainly the most socialized system in the country, but it certainly helps the hospitals manage the cost of uninsured people admitted to emergency services. That's a no brainer. Unfortunately, the law is poorly enforced unless you complain, for the simple reason that like everywhere, the business people tend to be republicans who don't care and feel they are above the law. Sound familiar?

I think the significant factor is that the health care is as good or better then most states because so many more people are covered. It's not rocket science or partisan politics.

Oh, and it's perfectly legal to pay all you want to for your own care or anyone elses. This notion that health care reform will make it illegal to seek private care is nothing but the rantings of a mentally deficient brain washed individual who prefers hate over compassion for his neighbors. There seems to be a lot of this on the right these days.

He said HE PAID for it!! What part of that don't you understand?

#30 | Posted by Sniper

As usual you miss the point entirely.

I don't believe the issue is whether he paid for it or not but the issue is the care he received. The Hospital is the closest thing to "socialized" medicine which Dimbulb abhorsand rails against. It is efficient and cost effective and provides excellent care which he testified too. This makes him and the Rethugs like you that he represents a bunch of hypocrites.

I believe THAT is the issue.

Like I said count me out.

#35 | Posted by bobinspokane

You can always pay out of pocket or do medical tourism..No you would rather take more than you pay in to cover your illness.

Yeah count you out..until you need care and lies are exposed for what they are.. lies.

So Sniper, Fishpaw, and Wizzy are Rush listeners....Guess that makes them lefties.

What I can't believe is that the doctors worked to keep him around and still dividing the country with his spouting off at the mouth.

Aren't med students taught "First, do no harm" any more?

What I can't believe is that the doctors worked to keep him around...

That's their job. Just as a lawyer has to do all he can to defend a known murderer, a doctor has to do all he can to save the life of a human.

the author of this story certainly took quite a bit of literary license in making the proclamation that Hawaii's health care system is socialized. He based it on three things: 1) All employers are required to provided health insurance for their employees 2) (I like this one) a reporter said so and 3) the nurses are unionized.

WTF? This makes Hawaii's system socialized? That's funny.

At any rate, even if true, what does the success of the 42nd smallest state have to do with something on a national scale?

1. Hawaii is a shining example of progressive health care reform. In fact, Hawaii is so forward-thinking that the Senate bill excludes Hawaii from some of its provisions, because Hawaii's requirements on employers go farther than the federal legislation.

Since 1974, Hawaii has required all employers to provide quality health care benefits to any employee who works 20 hours a week or more. Because of Hawaii's increased coverage, reports the New York Times, "hospital and insurance executives in Hawaii say they have been able to innovate efficiencies. For instance, the state's top three medical providers are adopting electronic medical records -- years ahead of most mainland counterparts."
One reporter noted "the medical system in Hawaii is as close to socialized medicine as there is in the United States, and, much of the Democrats reform bill is based in the Hawaii system."

So if we'll just start charging $8 per gallon of milk, etc. we can have the same quality socialezed health care they have in Hawaii. Hmmm, sounds interesting to me. "Let me know how I can get myself a big crazy Mercedes too"!

While two Senate Democrats already have seen the handwriting on the wall and bailed out of re-election races, five others trail Republicans in states where President Obama and his trillion-dollar health-care-reform plan are increasingly unpopular.

2010 and 2012 Baby...

#2 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2010-01-06 10:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yet 16 Repub Reps and 6 Senators are doing the same compared to 12 Dems Reps and 2 Senators.

You were saying....?

The brain dead on the left will never get that they are surrendering their bodies to the will of the state, that is, whether that body is treated for its illness and whether it lives or dies. That body under the state will just be another number, another "case" to be dispensed with by a nameless, faceless, totally emotionally uninvolved bureaucrat.

Believe it, Even Union Member Bodies will be something to dispose of for the good of the state.

#37 | Posted by Kissntell at 2010-01-06 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right! ....and then they'll send out the dump trucks to scoop up the people to be taken back and made into Soylent Green.

"It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!" - Detective Thorn

The brain dead on the right will never get that they are already surrendering their bodies to the will of the corporate monopoly, that is, whether that body is treated for its illness and whether it lives or dies. That body under the bottom line mentality of the corporation is just be another number, another "case" to be dispensed with by a nameless, faceless, totally emotionally uninvolved corporate suit who actually has a financial incentive to deny care and over-charge for services.

~Kissnation

FTFY.

Be Well.

The brain dead on the left will never get that they are already surrendering their bodies to the will of the government monopoly, that is, whether that body is treated for its illness and whether it lives or dies. That body under the bottom line mentality of the government system is just be another number, another "case" to be dispensed with by a nameless, faceless, totally emotionally uninvolved government fuck who actually has a legislative mandate to deny care and over-charge for services.

6 = half (baker's) dozen spud.

"The Queen's Medical Center, located in downtown Honolulu, Hawaii, is a private, non-profit, acute medical care facility. It is the largest private hospital in Hawaii, licensed to operate with 505 acute care beds and 28 sub-acute beds."

While two Senate Democrats already have seen the handwriting on the wall and bailed out of re-election races, five others trail Republicans in states where President Obama and his trillion-dollar health-care-reform plan are increasingly unpopular.

2010 and 2012 Baby...

#2 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2010-01-06 10:16 AM | Reply | Flag: Talking our his ass again

How about a credible link to your bullshit for once? Here is an unbiased link to some of the senate races next year.

Notice the use of the key term 'PRIVATE' -- as in "non-government owned"

#50 | Posted by vernon at 2010-01-07 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually the key term is 'non-profit'. 'Private' has nothing to do with the issue, since the government has no plans to own any hospitals.

I can't believe people waist their time on this idiot.bye.

I don't believe the issue is whether he paid for it or not but the issue is the care he received. The Hospital is the closest thing to "socialized" medicine which Dimbulb abhorsand rails against. It is efficient and cost effective and provides excellent care which he testified too. This makes him and the Rethugs like you that he represents a bunch of hypocrites.

I believe THAT is the issue.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy

Don't be a dumb fuck. What you stated is NOT socalized medicine.

How is a privately held hospital socialized?

How is a state with one privately held insurer owning 80% of the market socialized?

Remember, HI terminated their socialized medicine experiment when it nearly drove them bankrupt...

Bueller?

Don't be a dumb fuck. What you stated is NOT socalized medicine.

#54 | Posted by Sniper

Being a dumb fuck is YOUR specialty.

Perhaps your should read the article and what I said?

I say it is "close" and that is because of some of the provisions of the state law...

* Since 1974, Hawaii has required all employers to provide quality health care benefits to any employee who works 20 hours a week or more. Because of Hawaii's increased coverage, reports the New York Times, "hospital and insurance executives in Hawaii say they have been able to innovate efficiencies. For instance, the state's top three medical providers are adopting electronic medical records -- years ahead of most mainland counterparts."
* One reporter noted "the medical system in Hawaii is as close to socialized medicine as there is in the United States, and, much of the Democrats reform bill is based in the Hawaii system."

Carry on!

Close? Are you throwing horsehsoes? If you think I am going to put the opinion of a REPORTER on top of the pile you are crazy.

So if we'll just start charging $8 per gallon of milk, etc. we can have the same quality socialezed health care they have in Hawaii.

What does the fact that food is more expensive on the islands have to do with quality Health Care?

The thread is a classic example of why I say the republicans are uneducated fools so often. If they think that Hawaii has socialized health care imagine what these fools thing of Obama's plan. Any way I going into pick up my glasses today and pay cash because the insurance companies are no longer required to cover optical of dental anymore thanks to a republican governor. You can bet they didn't give me a break in my share of the premiums either, but my boss got one. Of course he's a staunch republican too.

Now how 'bout some of the facts he left out...

Ringo,

It was the SEIU that said HI had socialized medicine. Saner folks have been arguing that BCBSHI own's them islands.

#59 | Posted by RingMaster

Oh, assmaster, when will you learn.

Again, running off at the mouth without any information to back up what you are saying, I would think you would get tired of being wrong all the time.

HI has the closest thing to socialized medicine of any of the 50 states. Do the research.

YOU can go purchase an insurance policy for anything you want. Get off your gov't assistance relying ass & pay for it.
It is not your employer's job to make sure all your needs are met, that is your job.

When the gov't. mandates insurance company coverage, that is where the cost increases come in.

You are one thick headed SOB.

Lastly, health care is NOT A RIGHT!!!

#60 | Posted by seedeez2

I believe it falls under category of promoting the general welfare.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Any way I going into pick up my glasses today and pay cash because the insurance companies are no longer required to cover optical of dental anymore thanks to a republican governor

WAAAAH! I have to pay for my own glasses.