Ho boy, Alex Jones. Haven't seen stuff quite this looney since Jeffndenmark ran off with the Little Mermaid to play house in Lemuria.

This "story" can't even get the name of the guy whose reportage it purports to relay right. It's not "Richard Wolf" but "Richard Wolffe." (Next time, let's go for "Richard Woof," okay, Alex?)

#1 doc

So Doc, you admit the legitimacy of the story while ad homile attacking it. On what basis? They didn't spell the guy's name right.

You don't like what's behind door #3.

Nice job Doc!

Stay tuned for Obama's address on the subject.

Btw, Doc, you are even worse at spelling.

The author's name is spelled T-A-R-P-L-E-Y.

I've yet to see a conspiracy theory that cuntrarian won't swallows hook, line and sinker.

#4 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-01-05 02:48 PM | Reply | Flag Secretly admires Jesse Ventura

Secretly admires Jesse Ventura

Huh? The wrestler turned governor?

It doesn't fit into Alex Jones's wildly conspiratorial worldview

That applies to most aspects of reality. Jones is a schmuck who panders to an audience of gullible fools and unmedicated schizophrenics.

#7 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2010-01-05 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag: "Adhominem by Troll"

Of course a vax apparatchik isn't biased at all, thus the need to "troll"

A few years ago I was setting up to photograph a lunar eclipse when Alex shows up with a video camera.
Dumbfuck kept insisting the moon would rise in the west.

You're not too bright, are you? Bring credible, reproducible evidence to the table or expect to be treated like the fraud you are.

#9 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2010-01-05 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Another Brilliant Apparatchik troll (Gore)

#6,#10 z
Huh? The wrestler turned governor?

Who's the real fraud? Ok you can go crawl back underneath that rock now.

Even if you believed the "official" reports, you would still have to answer some tough questions:

Since it is admitted to be a vast intelligence failure OR rogue intelligence moles then why should there be ANY increase in security? Doesn't that just either cover up or augment/facilitate more of the same?

Huh? The wrestler turned governor?

This is somehow less legitimate than a community organizer turned president? One of the two actually served his country as a Navy Seal. The other was smoking crack and making jokes about his 'racist' grandma....

Bush made jokes about his Grandma?

No, Barry made jokes about his grandma's bush?!?

So Doc, you admit the legitimacy of the story while ad homile attacking it. On what basis? They didn't spell the guy's name right.
#2 | Posted by L_RContrarian

I don't "admit" anything about the story. I merely pointed out that the Alex Jones Freak-a-Thon website got the name of the purveyor of the so-called "story" wrong and got jist of the "story" wrong as well. Next time, try chasing down the original story rather than uncritically swallowing what Alex Jones is offering up.

B"tw, Doc, you are even worse at spelling.
The author's name is spelled T-A-R-P-L-E-Y.
#3 | Posted by L_RContrarian

Take some more soma, kid. I didn't mention anything about anyone called "Tarpley." Your link is to the Alex Jones Freak-a-Thon's website and I pointed that out.

#17 doc

You haven't discredited a single word I've posted. You've only sheepishly re-stated your ad hominem. If spelling discredits one, you would have been vanquished long ago.

You can see the clip of Richard Wolffe and Keith Olbermann at tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.
com and make up your own mind what it was Wolffe said.

If you had bothered to read the posted story, it did give proper credit to your guest's two theories behind the 'rogue intelligence mole'. This article introduced a third based on his own intelligence sources. Webster Tarpley is very highly regarded, yet you choose to ad hominem AJ who is just presenting Tarpley's analysis.

You haven't discredited a single word I've posted.

There's no reason to do so. You haven't established the credibility of a single word you've posted.

#19 z
Trollers, especially those with nothing to add to the conv, will be ignored.

No, Barry made jokes about his grandma's bush?!?

#16 | Posted by SHEEPLESHEPERD

Did somebody say bush?

Trollers, especially those with nothing to add to the conv, will be ignored.

If I'm a "troll," you've been doing a pretty lousy job of ignoring me.

This rogue network is older than Obama, Bush, Cheney, Clinton. Its calling cards have included the Kennedy assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Iran-Contra affair, and 9/11. The rogue network and the bankers who control it obviously regard Obama as an expendable puppet destined, like Jimmy Carter 30 years ago, to go down in the shipwreck of his administration's Wall Street-inspired policies.

Hey, if we want to go way out into conspiracy land, maybe we should consider that if such a rouge element existed it might have ties to the Family. I've been thinking about them tonight because of this thread:

Looks like ol' contrarian is turning out to be every bit the lunatic that was jeffndenmark.

No small feat.

From #18 | Posted by L_RContrarian:

"You haven't discredited a single word I've posted."

I've shown that the presentation of Richard Wolffe's views is inaccurate. That's enough to rip the piece to shreds.

"Webster Tarpley is very highly regarded..."

Really? By whom?

Lyndon LaRouche admirer Webster Tarpley is a nutter. Among his bizarre views: Italian P.M. Moro was knocked off by the Masons and the 9/11 goings-on were the result of the activities of rogue intel agencies and others involved in a dark, hard-to-comprehend, impossible-to-validate consiracy to...well, you get the idea.

#26 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2010-01-06 08:49 AM | Reply | Flag: Still Don't Like What's Behind Door #3?

9/11 goings-on were the result of the activities of rogue intel agencies

Exactly what part of that hasn't been proven ad nauseum except to blind pro-establishment simpletons like yourself?

"Italian P.M. Moro was knocked off by the Masons and the 9/11 goings-on were the result of the activities of rogue intel agencies and others involved in a dark, hard-to-comprehend, impossible-to-validate consiracy to...well, you get the idea."

HA! Everybody knows that's all BS. Moro was bumped off by Halliburton and 9/11 was brought about by Bush and Cheney hiring phantom pilots to fly aircraft to Shangri La while they detonated explosives in the WTC that they had Condoleeza Rice plant there a week earlier. Check with Buffaloed-Boob, he has the proof.

"9/11 goings-on were the result of the activities of rogue intel agencies"

Exactly what part of that hasn't been proven ad nauseum except to blind pro-establishment simpletons like yourself?
#28 | Posted by L_RContrarian

I'm going to assume you're not setting yourself up as a spoofster when I respond by saying, "Not an iota of it has been proven, Looneytarian, not an iota."

Prove otherwise. (Emphasis on prove.)

#30 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2010-01-06 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: Spoofster? If that isn't a distraction.

Simpletons need not apply.

#25 | Posted by Dave at 2010-01-06 08:42 AM | Reply | Flag: Convenient brainlessness by a troller

Where've ya been through the whole process? Proven correct over and over on Copenhagen, World Government, TSA predictions, patsies, Holdren, left-right paradigm, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

Doc,
Not an iota of it has been proven

Pro-establishment simpletons won't see it as "proven" no matter what. Which of fifty pieces of evidence would you like to see that shows the exact same pattern as the Underwear Bomber of false rhetoric and incompetence "not connecting the dots" for 911 in foreknowledge of the 9-11 event?

Poor ol' contrarian.

Maybe he is skidmark.

Maybe he is skidmark.

Nah, skidmark got too close to the truth and spontaneously combusted while the CIA was trying out an experimental beam to scramble his memories.

whatza matter Z? Sour grapes over being put into your place once again -- even worse on your shillness!

relegated to trolling around my posts AGAIN???

put into your place once again

Yeah, your latest schizophrenic rant really showed me.

Call it what you want. It's twice in two days. Keep trolling, too. Gotta love the show of weakness.

It's twice in two days.

Yes, twice in two days you have posted conspiracist fantasies substantiated only by the incoherent yammering of fools and lunatics. Is there a load of irrational bullshit you won't mindlessly swallow? If so, you apparently haven't found it yet.

#40 z

What? More adhominem BS to coverup two major slip-ups of the last two days!? Tell me it isn't so.

For all your pathetic whimpering about ad hominem arguments, LR, you seem to be full of them. Along with your rather obnoxious delusions, ad hominems compose most of your posts.

My only mistake was to believe that you are capable of understanding or formulating a rational argument. Now get back to doing what you do best... inundating the Retort with your rejected sci-fi screenplays.

#31 | Posted by L_RContrarian

Obviously you can't produce the goods to support your assertion.

I will, however, grant that you have a couple of advantages on many of the rest of us.

First, while your conspiracy theories don't hold water they don't have to. Lack of evidence for a conspiracy is, for your type of credulous soma sucker, simply additional proof for the vast nature and incredibly successful cover-up abilities of those participating in whatever your conspiracy du jour happens to be.

Second, you're sufficiently ignorant and gullible to actually believe that sort of crap.

Just one last thing Looneytarian: Do you folks need passports when -- if ever -- exiting Fool's Paradise and entering the parallel universe of the real world?

#44 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2010-01-07 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lack of evidence for a conspiracy

Was the two minute video beyond your attention span?

First, where's the lack of evidence? The video comes from the horses' mouths.

Second, what is a conspiracy theory? It isn't defined by your politically convenient definition.

To conspire means "to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or to use such means to accomplish a lawful end." The term "conspiracy theory" is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at stealing power, money, or freedom, from "the people".

What, exactly, are you yammernig on about now? I was referring to your ill-concieved notions about a 9/11 conspiracy involving rogue intel organizations. If that's it, then what "two minute video" are you referring to? If the video in question is the one I reference and link above, then you clearly aren't keeping up to speed with your own thread.

#46 doc

It's #42: Short and sweet, Doc.

No comment by the Docster? If no comment, you need to retract your predictions and flimsy ad hominems.