Matalin is and always has been nothing but a partisan liar.

Clinton caused the 2008 recession too and assassinated Kennedy.

And President Bush dealt with it.

By appointing Dickless Cheney to head the terrorism cabinet that had 0 meetings prior to 9/11 and shifted counterterrorism funding to SDI.

Bin Laden determined to strike in the US using airplanes.

If by "dealt with it" means clearing brush looking for terrorists in Crawford, then he did a heckuva job.

Due to the extremely high levels of ignorance and stupidity exhibited by Left wing Liberal Hacks, it is only fair to Blame Clinton for everything in the same way Lefttards ALWAYS resort to BUSH'S FAULT...

ALL HAIL OBAMA/GOD...

Chimpy was too busy spitting and polishing Guckert's knob to take care of job number one to protect the nation.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Bill Clinton was busy spraying his DNA all over the oral office and several interns, that is a fact the bullshit you posted is not even a good joke, oh wait I get it you are trying to be like the MSM...

CARRY ON with your BULLSHIT...

Ya know, if Billy had just had Osama taken out and shot life in the U.S. would have been different.

If you press her, I'm sure she would tell you
that she thinks that Bush inherited Katrina
from Clinton too.

Ya know, if Billy had just had Osama taken out and shot life in the U.S. would have been different.

--Chaos Theory

Nothing like Monday Morning Quarterbacking, something BOTH sides are really good at every day.

Too bad we can't peek into the future to peek at the past to make decisions now that would be right for the future.

---------------------

The seminar on Time Travel will be held in Room 14 two weeks ago at 10:00 sharp.

Bubba could have taken him out instead of blowing his load on Monica and then lying about it. He used the WH like Obama is, an excuse for a party.

Yeah life would be a lot different if GHWB hadn't built that air base in Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War.

The devout Saudis were incensed at a permanent base.
Pissed them off and you see what happened.

Blame it on the military.

So DaProf, I guess that means it is all Bush's fault since you keep blaming Clinton. You do realize the more the right cries "Clinton!" you legitimize the calls of "Bush!" There is the actual record, though. I suppose that's why it's necessary for Matalin and others to keep deflecting to Clinton.

Here's a clue, there's a legacy of U.S. involvement, and though I think Ron Paul's a bit of a loon, there are some things he does get correct. If you stir shit up, don't whine about it when you get some on you.

So DaProf, I guess that means it is all Bush's fault since you keep blaming Clinton. You do realize the more the right cries "Clinton!" you legitimize the calls of "Bush!" There is the actual record, though. I suppose that's why it's necessary for Matalin and others to keep deflecting to Clinton.

excellent point. even if Matalin has a legitmate point (arguable at best) it will never stick to Clinton. Bush owns 9-11...period. to what extent you want to blame Bush is going to be a debate for years to come.

But to deflect to Clinton only pulls Bush down further. I don't think that is the result Matalin is trying to get.

I did not know who Mary Matalin was before today. Filing her in the "fool" folder with all the other fuckwits.

Scrumplet you need to get out more. Matalin is married to James Carville, who lives a double life as a Democratic strategist during the day and breaks bread with a Repub at night.

I watched a seminar at GeorgeTown on political strategy given by Carville and he was talking about how it was his job to say anything as well as lie when it came to getting his client elected. He definately lives a double life.

#15 DX

Oh, that's who she is. I've definitely read her name before, then, and since forgotten it. Will remember it now, and associate it with this latest bit of news.

Has Carville been relevant in any way since the '92 Clinton campaign?

Matalin is and always has been nothing but a partisan liar.

#2 | Posted by danni

Come on Danni, you're as partisan as they get so you're comment can't be taken seriously---the recession was beginning when Bush took office--totally obvious to any non-partisan---how Bush and Greenspan handled it was the disaster--again totally obvious to a non-partisan.

Repubs=Bad
Dems =Good

Danni

The economy was a cluster fuck started by Nixon, continued by Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, hidden by Clinton, and blown up by Bush.

9-11 was all Bush's failure and there is no blaming Clinton at all.

As I recall, every time President Clinton called for any military action, all we heard from the right was "Wag The Dog".

"Bubba could have taken him out instead of blowing his load on Monica and then lying about it. He used the WH like Obama is, an excuse for a party."

#10 | Posted by fishpaw

And I suppose you wouldn't of.

As I recall, every time President Clinton called for any military action, all we heard from the right was "Wag The Dog".

You got that right. Republican asswipes were more concerned with where he was putting his pecker and focused on what Ken Star and the rightwing circle jerk during senate hearing.

Lemme see.. Bushhole was in office 9 months having security meetings on the golf course... now watch this swing.

She apparently also forgot Richard Clarke's repeated attempts to warn about impending attacks that were blown off by Condi Rice.

I love how the libs here pick and choose what to respond to, out of context and all.

I was pointing out that it makes no sense to keep blaming backwards (ie, Monday Morning Quarterbacking) and yet you can only glom on the point to make the point you desire, not address the point being made.

But then, libs were never known for their ability to use logic and reason or to recognize logical fallacies.

Good luck with that. It always comes across as your basic kindergarten ploy. "Neener, neener"

IF you want to go back far enough, we can blame Christopher Columbus for discovering the continent.

or would you rather blame the black obelisk? ancient aliens?

Sometimes, shit happens. Just finish up the paperwork, flush and move on. (Funny how moveon.org can't move on, isn't it?)

"Come on Danni, you're as partisan as they get so you're comment can't be taken seriously"

I have never made any comment as partisan as Matilin's ridiculous claim that Bush inherited 9-11.
I freely admit to being a Democrat, and proud of it, but I am not a liar. Matilin quite clearly is.

How does stating an opinion that Bush inherited 9-11 make her a liar?

The failures on 9-11 were on every level of our Government, American and United Airlines. This included Shrub, but not as directly as hundreds of others in the FBI, CIA, NORAD, NSA, Air Traffic Control, NTSB, Air Force, Police & Fire Department communication systems, NY Port Authority and the buildings Architects. Workers in the struck buildings were advised to sit tight. You gotta wonder how many lives would have been saved had everyone evacuated immediately. Fire & Police were real heroes whose well being has been compromised by the powerful incompetent Bush Administration and Mayor Guliani, after promising unlimited post trauma care for rescue and demolition site workers. Those leaders are real scumbags.

The passengers on Flight 92 also performed brilliantly because they understood the stakes. They saved one of our Government buildings and all the people in it, making it clear these types of attacks will never work in the future. Yet our Government wastes more money in more systems to thwart identical attacks than other more likely threats.

#2 | Posted by danni

Funny, that's how we feel about you.

The entire country inherited 9/11 from Clinton & Carter.
They are both responsible for forcing the intelligence agencies to maintain separate "databases" & the lack of communication allowed.
This is not new information, it has just been long ignored.
Carter is probably more responsible for the dismantling of our intelligence networks, but Clinton literally had Bin Laden in the scope & refused to take the shot.
There is no way anyone can say Bush did everything correctly in this matter, but there is also no way anyone can say it was his fault & not the fault of Carter's & Clinton's policies.
It's all there in black & white, people like danni just refuse to do real research & can't get over Bush derangement syndrome.

I loved Mary in The Wizard Of Oz.

Let's see - the Ryder truck bomb in the basement parking of the towers took place under Clinton. It's been acknowledged that the plan to use the aircraft was 1 to 2 years in the planning/making, yes that would make it the Clinton years. Definitely an inheritance.

Just imagine this ignorant BITCH was a high official in the Bush Administration!!!!!!!!! Ignorant C**t, all of these Bastards should be taken to the World Court an tried for Crimes against Humanity, not being given air time to lie to the American people about this shit!!!!!

"Definitely an inheritance."

Gee...it seems the only position in the military where the sentry can blame the guy who got off duty 8 months prior is Commander-In-Chief.

Tracing the root cause of middle east terrorism is simple. Blowback from ill concieved British & US intervention in the region which repeatedly dismantled Democratic movements in favor of easily managed despots. Poverty is widespread in this oil rich region because of the types of Governments we have imposed and supported militarily. Average income in Saudi Arabia is $15,000 per year where 14 of the 19 hi-jackers were sourced by Al Qaida. That poverty is the root cause.

Bush didn't take the threat seriously. But anyone who thinks Clinton wasn't negligent where it came to Al Queda is a brainless partisan drone. They attacked us a half dozen times under his watch and the most he could do was lob a few missiles at an empty base. But when the Euros ordered him to attack the Serbs, who never bothered us, the Serbs felt the full weight of our military. Pathetic.

And I don't want to hear that he "couldn't do more" because the GOP would accuse him of "wagging the dog" when his blowjob story hit. If his blowjob stopped him from defending this country (which I don't believe, I think he just didn't do anything because the public was ignorant about the threat and he could do nothing and remain popular) then it is not the non-issue most Americans think it was, right?

DANFORTH: The subject of the thread is 'Bush inherited 9/11 attacks from Clinton'. Either he did or he did not. Since it started under the Clinton administration I would call that an inheritance.

i suppose if clinton didnt have to spend 8 years fighting the ken starr investigation he certainly could have directed the energy needed to fight OBL. Thanks for pointing that out righties.

SCOTUS'S Rethuglican and Bush Crime Family ties were revealed in the manner they refused to stop the endless litigation against Clinton while still holding that office. All he asked was the case be continued until he finished his term and these assholes refused. It ate into Clinton's time and energy at great expense to this country. Another unprecedented, inconsistent ruling with similar stink on it ignored the actual Florida vote in order to install Shrub against the will of the people.

On every level our Government is corrupt.

Ask yourself why building 7 was demolished and you will have your answers. Rumsfeld and Cheney can explain it all for you. You might also want to talk to Marvin P. Bush and Mr. Silverstein.

Hey Nutcase, ummmmm what the fuck are you smoking? I hope you have a prescription.

"i suppose if clinton didnt have to spend 8 years fighting the ken starr investigation he certainly could have directed the energy needed to fight OBL. Thanks for pointing that out righties."

Like I said, I don't believe the blowjob has anything to do with Clinton's negligence. But just for you, I'll play along. Let's assume the blowjob is the reason Clinton didn't do his job where Al Queda was concerned:

Clinton shouldn't be given a free pass for allowing his infidelities and perjury to hinder his ability to do his job. When he was fucking around in the oval office he knew damn well that if the story ever leaked, his political opponents would grab ahold of it like pit bulls and never let go. He decided that porking a fat chick was more important than being able to run the country with minimal interference. Furthermore, if he actually wanted to do his job and mitigate the threat but felt he couldn't once the story got out, he should have resigned. He held onto the office so he bears the responsibility of failing to meet his obligations to the American people while holding that office. You take a job, you keep the job, its your fault when the job doesn't get done. Period. That's how the real outside your cocoon of partisan nonsense works.

And it would appear Maet inerited an extra pair of chromosones from her parents.

This woman is a rightwing retard. Almost as bad as chickeninoven.

Clinton shouldn't be given a free pass for allowing his infidelities and perjury to hinder his ability to do his job.

he didnt. It was the witchhunt that would have impacted his ability to do his job. It took a few minutes to blow his load. It was the time spent dealing with the investigation that limited his time to respond.

And it would appear Maet inerited an extra pair of chromosones from her parents.

A pair? Nah, just one. I think it was #21.

Furthermore, if he actually wanted to do his job and mitigate the threat but felt he couldn't once the story got out, he should have resigned. He held onto the office so he bears the responsibility of failing to meet his obligations to the American people while holding that office.

hahahaha then I guess 95% of the senators, congressmen, governors should resign. what world do you live in.

He got head. It aint a crime. It is between his wife and himself. it was the hypocritical asshats who wanted to take down his presidency because he committed the unforgivable crime of being a democrat that hindered his job as CiC. A non-partisan hack could admit that.

Due to the extremely high levels of ignorance and stupidity exhibited by Left wing Liberal Hacks, it is only fair to Blame Clinton for everything in the same way Lefttards ALWAYS resort to BUSH'S FAULT...

ALL HAIL OBAMA/GOD...

#5 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-12-28 09:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wouldn't you be happier in a country with no liberal influence? No liberals in congress--no liberals on the Supreme Court--never a liberal President? No welfare--no affirmative action--no gay agenda? Wouldn't you like to live in a country with a President and fellow citizens you could respect? Can you answer?

GOBAMA

You are right that it isn't a crime to get a blow-job in the Oval office but it should be a crime to be so stupid that you as the POTUS don't think you are going to get caught.

#47 Please, please keep going, I'm getting a tingle up my leg.

I'm getting a tingle up my leg.

Right, and that's a puddle of "patriotism" on the floor beneath you.

Why trade sarcastic remarks? This is suppose to be discussions, but nobody backs there words with facts just one upmanship in sarcasm. Sad part is this is how we vote, thus the liars in both parties are nothing more than a reflection of the voters.

Frankly I would rather have a president who enjoys getting his knob polished over one who doesnt.

Old W always struck me as a man seriously in need of a good blow job. He seems to have confused giving one instead of receiving one.

Why trade sarcastic remarks? This is suppose to be discussions, but nobody backs there words with facts just one upmanship in sarcasm. Sad part is this is how we vote, thus the liars in both parties are nothing more than a reflection of the voters.

#52 | Posted by KTeas

Here's a fact-You're a douchebag.

Have a nice day.

Yea KTeas, go screw yourself.

#54 | Posted by clemens at 2009-12-28 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag: Republican

#55 | Posted by fishpaw at 2009-12-28 02:03 PM | Reply | Flag: Republican

"Parties" are evil!

The facts are, Clinton became a conservative after the 1994 elections when the Democrats lost control of congress. Bush just could never get it right and got us into a bad war we cannot afford and sat too quiet when the banks were destroying the the financial system with bad loans. The Dem's in congress were warned to cool this real estate bubble, but told the Republicans they were nuts. If we would spend as much time fixing our own parties and demanding truth instead of choosing sides and defending our own liars, we may start voting responsibly. The mess we are in today is caused by a two party system locked into power by gifts and lobbyist and voters that vote for words and not actions. What you do speaks so loud I don't hear what you say!

That's funny I always considered myself a Readjustor.

Yea right, just what I was saying you don't deal with the facts... Douchebags can't type, they don't have fingers..So there you go I am not a douchebag...BTW who type that for you?

If we would spend as much time fixing our own parties and demanding truth instead of choosing sides and defending our own liars, we may start voting responsibly.

and how exactly could we do that. IIRC in 2008 there was a choice between McSame and McChange. Now it seems that McChange is doing pretty much the same thing as McSame would have done.

Seems that there is not much difference between the parties and we are stuck with them. Well until our nation collapses in revolution

LOL good point TRUTHURTS. MCsame or MSsocialist. What I do love about Obama, is he is going to spend this country into bankruptcy thus putting an end to any spending including social spending..

uss cole
embassies around the world
at golf tournament while military ready to take bin laden and told them to wait and then said NO......

"he didnt. It was the witchhunt that would have impacted his ability to do his job. It took a few minutes to blow his load. It was the time spent dealing with the investigation that limited his time to respond."

He knew the consequences of getting caught for what he did. Melodramatically calling it a "witch hunt" can never change the fact that he did what he did knowing full well the very predictable consequences of gettting caught. He very clearly decided getting a blowjob from a fat chick was worth the risk of compromising his ability to do his job. When he got caught, he held onto the office anyway.

Bottom line: Clinton was Commander in Chief. He failed to respond to numerous attacks on Americans, including the attacks our African embassies which by itself was an act of war. There is no excuse for this. If he couldn't do his job, he should have resigned. He kept the job so he is responsible for what he did or didn't do while in office. You don't get to make excuses when you hold the highest office in the land. That is how real life works.

His inaction, combined with the inaction of his even less competent successor resulted in the deaths of over 3,000 Americans. They failed and people died and no amount of idiotic excuses on the part of any of their partisan fluffers can change this reality.

Sorry Charlie, Matalin is right, and Sandy Berger's day time trip to the Security Archives to remove incriminating materials proves part of it! The rest is common sense.

Clinton, after Hemming and Hawing for months, directed a missile strike on Al Queda in Afganistan after the first Towers attack, a point of fact!

The subsequent attack on the Towers was in retaliation for that event (we were deemed to be weak due to our actions in boogying out of Vietnam, doing nothing in Lebanon, and departing Mogadishu without looking back (Black Hawk Down))!

Plus anyone who really thought the DOT COM events were NOT a bubble waiting to burst, please stand up! That event took us into recession from which Bush extracted us, but tried and failed to change the Financial system in time to mitigate this recession, SOON to be DEPRESSION!

Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush ll are partially responsible for all of this!

But, the biggest culprit of all is OUR CONGRESS! THEY were here through all of this period with very few changes of personnel, passing laws, voting, holding meetings, justifying their individual actions, trying to look intelligent and being re-elected time after time.

It is our fault because WE kept sending these fools back, hoping they'd eventually get it right!

#46 | Posted by truthhurts

Again, a bed-wetter that doesn't get the facts right.
The bj wasn't the crime, lying under oath was though. Amazing how that escapes them still.

Clinton caused the 2008 recession too and assassinated Kennedy.

#3 | Posted by JimmyWallback at 2009-12-28 08:43 AM |

He undoubtedly knows where Hoffa is buried.

Sorry Charlie, Matalin is right, and Sandy Berger's day time trip to the Security Archives to remove incriminating materials proves part of it! The rest is common sense.

DOGEN

thanks for reminding us all of the sandy 'bergler' moment...now LIBS tell us just HOW did those papers AcciDENTLY get down his pants again????

Clinton caused the 2008 recession too and assassinated Kennedy.

#3 | Posted by JimmyWallback at 2009-12-28 08:43 AM |

He undoubtedly knows where Hoffa is buried.

#67 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-12-28 03:15 PM | Repl

the lying sack of shit blow job should be remembered for one thing for sure

or ONE PERSOn anyway

monica???

NOPE

how about the name MARC RICH?????

Bubba could have taken him out instead of blowing his load on Monica and then lying about it. He used the WH like Obama is, an excuse for a party.

#10 | Posted by fishpaw at 2009-12-28 09:53 AM

Sure fishpud, and Duuuhbya didn't have slopovers, err... sleepovers with his boyfriend, ace "reporter" Jeffy Gannon.

Sure fishpud, and Duuuhbya didn't have slopovers, err... sleepovers with his boyfriend, ace "reporter" Jeffy Gannon.

when bush or gannon admits to it then you might have something.

until then, you can swim in the same pool with buffalo bob.

the lying sack of shit blow job should be remembered for one thing for sure

#69 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-12-28 03:18 PM

What's wrong babbles?

Just because you haven't had your pathetic knob polished since St. Ronnie was in office is no excuse to be jealous.

when bush or gannon admits to it then you might have something.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:20 PM |

Oh, oh.

Yet another douche who hasn't had a good blow job in quite a while is defending America's first closeted preznit.

Just because you haven't had your pathetic knob polished

and

Yet another douche who hasn't had a good blow job in quite a while

are you offering? you seem to other poster's sexual habits and desires.....

....along with knowing what goes on in the whitehouse.

I'm not defending anybody but rather shining the light on a class envy boob who wants and needs to believe any story about people they hate to get through the day. I guess it's better than drugs, eh Jerry?

I guess it's better than drugs, eh Jerry?

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:26 PM |

Sorry you need hate to get thru your day, right wing hack.

Sorry you need hate to get thru your day,

I'm not the one who believes outrageous stories about presidents.(I don't hate any of them).

Being that you believe this and, further, being a homosexual yourself you should show a little more compassion for someone who is dealing with their denial.

how long did you deny who you really are?

until then, you can swim in the same pool with buffalo bob.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's hear your hypothesis about why Jeff Gannon had admittance to the Press briefings at the White House and was able to lob loaded questions to Bush. Let's hear your logical explanation as to why He spent several nights at the White House. There have been several reports of Bush's bisexuality---are they all liars?

Waiting on you---to deflect.

;-)

There have been several reports of Bush's bisexuality---are they all liars?

There have been several reports of Obama not being a citizen of the United States. Are they all liars?

#46 | Posted by truthhurts

Again, a bed-wetter that doesn't get the facts right.
The bj wasn't the crime, lying under oath was though. Amazing how that escapes them still.

#66 | Posted by seedeez2

and a lie that would not have occurred if the witch hunt wasnt conducted

Anyway, what would it matter if Bush is bi, boob?

Being that you believe this and, further, being a homosexual yourself you should show a little more compassion for someone who is dealing with their denial.

how long did you deny who you really are?

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:33 PM

Me, gay?

Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble bible thumper but I'm not.

However, I'm sure there are many married, self loathing gay "christian" guys on the DR who you could hook up with.

Let's hear your hypothesis about why Jeff Gannon had admittance to the Press briefings at the White House and was able to lob loaded questions to Bush.

you answered your own question dipshit. all reasonable and sane people see that for what it is....a POTUS trying to control the press through a relationship with a reporter.

you and Jerry are far from reasonable or sane.

Let's hear your logical explanation as to why He spent several nights at the White House. There have been several reports of Bush's bisexuality---are they all liars?

maybe there were favors for Gannon. I have no idea. But you have to assume that GWB is a homo to satisfy your own desires. we all see that.

how long have you denied your sexuality?

Just because you haven't had your pathetic knob polished since St. Ronnie was in office is no excuse to be jealous.

#72 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-12-28 03:21 PM

BRING Up the name marc rich and this is the deflection shit you always get..

Me, gay?

anybody who would rant on and on about someone else's sexuality in such a negative way would suggest they are a homo in denial or a rabid anti-homosexual hateful bigot.

which is it?

you and Jerry are far from reasonable or sane

I've never claimed to be sane.

how long have you denied your sexuality?

#82 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:42 PM

.... he asked, touching himself.

Wow.Punkin!

Did I hit a nerve?

anybody who would rant on and on about someone else's sexuality in such a negative way would suggest they are a homo in denial or a rabid anti-homosexual hateful bigot.

which is it?

#84 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:44 PM |

Love the self retorting retort.

Let's hear your logical explanation as to why He spent several nights at the White House.

maybe he was in on the orphan raping along with Cheney and GWB Sr.

you subscribe to all of that......there HAS to be some truth in it.

:-)

.... he asked, touching himself.

Wow.Punkin!

deflect away Jerry.

but you are one of the 2 and you damn well know it.

but you are one of the 2 and you damn well know it.

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:48 PM

Ummm, I'm not the one with "gaydar".

Lemme guess. You're married, have two kids go to church to talk to Jeeeebus, but you like to smuggle the occasional pickle.

It's OK, your invisible man in the sky still loves you!

Ummm, I'm not the one with "gaydar".

you are the one who insists GWB is bi/gay.

you are INDEED the one with the "gaydar".

you are INDEED the one with the "gaydar".

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:56 PM

Nah. You're ths catholic. Being touched comes with that territory!

Lemme guess. You're married, have two kids go to church to talk to Jeeeebus, but you like to smuggle the occasional pickle.

I love Vlasiks and I eat them out in the open.

You see, as another deflection, you are accusing ME of being gay.

I'm not gay. I have no idea if GWB is gay but Jeff Gannon's relationship with the WH is no proof if it whatsoever. You want and need it to be.

that makes you either gay or a gay hater.

The Clinton administration repeatedly called attention to bin Laden, and in 1998 conducted missile attacks against suspected strongholds in Afghanistan and the Sudan:

I love Vlasiks and I eat them out in the open

So, you're out of the closet then.

It's OK, Gaaaaawd still luvs you.

LOL.

I'm done fucking with you. It's 4:20 time.

( That means I'm gonna go get high )!

Fred Vlasik

#95

FF

Ya know, if Billy had just had Osama taken out and shot life in the U.S. would have been different.

#7 | POSTED BY DAPROF AT 2009-12-28 09:49 AM | REPLY

Yeah sure, and another whackjob would not have taken his place?

Don't be so naive.

did the Bush Administration do prior to 9/11?

Picked out china patterns.
Cleared brush.
Made sweetheart deals with oil cos to divide up Iraq.

Yeah life would be a lot different if GHWB hadn't built that air base in Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War.

And life would have been a lot different if Traitor Reagan hadn't helped Iran stave off Iraq by selling them all those weapons. That way, the first Gulf war would never have happened...

If you are going to refer to Bush as Chimpy then I guess you won't mind Obama being referred to as Chimpy too. Or maybe the Lawn Jockey in Chief or Frozone.

So Aflak, when you going to get that busted key board with the stuck shift key replaced? You cheap ass conservative. You ate one too many hot pockets on that one already.

Would You Buy a Used-Car from this Woman???

Imagine someone having that astounding lack of principals and morals that would allow her to "aid & abet" someone as despicably evil as Dick Cheney...or to marry a reasonable facsimilie like James Car_vile!!! Obviously Evil's Henchmen Won't Indict Themselves...Without a Plea Bargain!!!

Matalin is completely deflecting the real core problem. BUSH IGNORED ALL OF GEORGE TENET'S WARNINGS because he wanted to avenge his daddy's Baghdad shortcomings.

Ashcroft put Teraism and Terraists at the bottom of the shelf.

THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION KNOWINGLY (or unknowingly) IGNORED ALL OF THE WARNINGS GIVEN TO THEM. PERIOD.

FU MATALIN.

Mary Matalin was always round the bend. Now she needs to be institutionalized, and I hope her husband will take care of that.

"The subject of the thread is 'Bush inherited 9/11 attacks from Clinton'. Either he did or he did not. Since it started under the Clinton administration I would call that an inheritance."

No, that would be the planning that was inherited.

Using your logic, if an attack on your group's position was "planned" while you were the guard, they could say they "inherited" the attack from you. Ludicrous.

9/11 was al Quaeda's fault. When will you left and right blame gamers catch on to that?

"9/11 was al Quaeda's fault."

That explains why Mohammad Atta used to rent my Cessna.

Get off the rig on your own.

maybe he was in on the orphan raping along with Cheney and GWB Sr.

you subscribe to all of that......there HAS to be some truth in it.

:-)

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2009-12-28 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, there HAS to be some truth to that---with several different books written by several different authors. With eyewitness and victim accounts---yes, there is some truth to that. But we were talking about W Bush and his bisexuality, and I see you have no logical explanation as to why a male prostitute was given access to the White House press meeting and spent the night several times at the White House. I would bet you would have plenty of ideas if it had been Clinton and Gannon. You are a partisan hack---not an American, and you support Presidents who rape children, and are bisexual. If Bush SR hadn't been so rich. a former President, and above the law, he would be doing life for child rape. If W Bush wasn't so rich, and a former President, he would be working the Houston bus station's mens room for tips, and hoping Senator Craig would give his foot a tap.

Rcade warned you about spouting that lie, bOoB. That's why I'm flagging it when I rarely flag except for ff

Matalin misspoke.

She was trying to use the 'inherited spasms' of Obama to Bush and misspoke about the 9/11.

There was no 'inheritance' by Bush of 9/11--it happened under his term as POTUS.

And Bush dealt with it.

It would be the same as trying to say FDR inherited Pearl Harbor from Hoover.

There is no doubt there were plenty of failures to go around with the gov't and failures to connect the dots is common sense.

She'll correct this statement.

Rcade warned you about spouting that lie, bOoB. That's why I'm flagging it when I rarely flag except for ff

#109 | Posted by pUnk bOy at 2009-12-28 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Flag away pUnk bOy--that's what pUnk bOys do.

;-)

And you continue with outrageous lies and believing tales by drug addicted whores. That's what bOoBs do.

Yes, there HAS to be some truth to that---with several different books written by several different authors. With eyewitness and victim accounts---yes, there is some truth to that.

Following Batshit Bob's logic (I'm using that term loosely) there has to be truth in the allegation that Obama is a shape-shifting Muslim reptile born in Kenya. People have written books about it. Individuals have come forward saying that they saw his Kenyan birth certificate. They have heard him profess, "there is no god but god and Mohammed is his prophet".

As stated---several different books by several different authors---to call a rape victim a drug addicted whore shows you to be a liar in addition to being a pUnk bOy. The woman you are referring to is a true American hero, putting her life on the line to tell the same stories many other people corroborate in their books. She is sitting next to Ted Gunderson, former Senior Special Agent in Charge, FBI Los Angeles. I should add Lying Piece of Shit to your sobriquet of pUnk bOy---you've earned it turd breath.

;-)

As stated---several different books by several different authors---

As zombie stated, several books by several authors, eyewitnesses, etc. So are you going to be consistent and admit that Obama was not born in the US or are you going to continue doing what you always do -- play by a different set of rules that you make for yourself?

I suspect the latter. That's what bOoBs do.

Y'all are wasting time. Bob has been shot to pieces over the 9-11 science long before you guys were members. Entire threads were devoted to this stuff for YEARS.

It didn't stop him repeating the same poop over and over again, then falling back on "i'm just asking questions" when he was beaten.(daily)

Bob is stuck in his ways. He says HW Bush is a pedo, then it is so, and no lack of evidence, use of facts or logic, is going to change how he feels.

In same sense, she has a point. After the terrorist attacks against US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in 1998 Clinton bombed Al Qaeda HQ in Afghanistan, but did not took aditional action to destroy the enemy. Then, as a vengeance, would have decided to strike US soil.

That and car antennaes are better than guns!

Or the country is better split between left and right whatever is decided by BB.

Or smokestacks on the moon....

Or....

There was no 'inheritance' by Bush of 9/11--it happened under his term as POTUS.

And Bush dealt with it.
Posted by MURPHY

I'll say. He dealt with it by starting and losing two wars while presiding over the worst economy since Prescott was getting rich off of his dealings with Hitler. Bravo Chimpy!!

That and car antennaes are better than guns!

Following Batshit Bob's logic (I'm using that term loosely) there has to be truth in the allegation that Obama is a shape-shifting Muslim reptile born in Kenya. People have written books about it. Individuals have come forward saying that they saw his Kenyan birth certificate. They have heard him profess, "there is no god but god and Mohammed is his prophet".

There is even a youtube video providing indisputable video evidence of his demonic possession and reptilian origins! I hear his cells have Satanic Nibiru Orbs of Reptilian Nucleic Acids (snoRNA) in them. Well, I took a bit of license with the acronym, but whatever. It's true. Somebody said so.

Batshit Bob's regular mutilations of logic and reason remind me of a creationist's feeble attempts to writhe out of addressing the evidence for evolution. It borders on comical.

#113 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-12-28 09:50 PM | Reply | Flag: LIAR

LINKS?

Waiting on you.

;-)

Y'all are wasting time. Bob has been shot to pieces over the 9-11 science long before you guys were members. Entire threads were devoted to this stuff for YEARS.

What a load of crap. Nothing has been "shot to pieces"---ever. Yopu simply ignore the facts and claim such nonsense. Kerosene fires don't melt steel. Bush still claims he saw the first plane hit the Towers on 911, as does Ted Olson. Ted Olson lied about his wife calling him on the day she died---such a call was impossible, there is no record of it anywhere, and even the FBI says there was no call. There is srtill no video of the plane that hit the pentagon. There were explosions in the basement of the Towers before the plane hit, and after they hit. Card didn't wait for instructions after informing Bush of the second plane--he wasn't telling Bush anything new--he was simply updating Exactly what was shot to pieces numbskull?

It didn't stop him repeating the same poop over and over again, then falling back on "i'm just asking questions" when he was beaten.(daily)

Beaten on what point little mind?

Bob is stuck in his ways. He says HW Bush is a pedo, then it is so, and no lack of evidence, use of facts or logic, is going to change how he feels.

You call eyewitness and victim accounts a lack of evidence? I would say you would even call videos and fingerprints a lack of evidence also. As stated---books written by several different authors. Several victim and eyewitness accounts. Exactly what kind of evidence would you find compelling?

#116 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2009-12-28 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

That and car antennaes are better than guns!

Post your link, twit. What a moron you are.

Or the country is better split between left and right whatever is decided by BB.

Why do you want liberals running your country---answer up stupid.

Or smokestacks on the moon....

I have said many times that it looks like a smokestack, but that I doubt there is any fire anywhere near it, but it has to be called something. What's you explanation little mind?

Poor bOoB -- played the stupid "what you can't get to the gun game" a little too long, didn't you asswipe? Now you fucking own it and you can't get rid of it. You reap what you sow, bOoB. I think it's hilarious! LOL

Nothing has been "shot to pieces"---ever

Why is it the delusional are so much fun to watch? LOL

Kerosene fires don't melt steel.

No one said they did, bOoB. But there is no doubt that they can weaken it to the point that they can't hold up the weight they were designed to do at regular temperatures.

On December 4 at our annual 2 day safety class in Houston I once again saw the 30 minute video about the piper alpha. If an unrefined petrol fire can weaken a three story structure to the point that it collapses, I'm sure it can do the same to a structure with dozens of stories of concrete above it .

What an idiot. BTW, if you'd like to see the video, let me know. I'll send you a copy. If you'd rather live in a world a delusion, don't watch it.

Waiting on you. LOL

Links

bOoBs way of saying he's got nothing. LOL

Why should anyone provide you links when you never do when asked, bOoB? I agree. They shouldn't. Thanks for admitting defeat with your usual "Link?" retort. LOL

Why should anyone provide you links when you never do when asked, bOoB? I agree. They shouldn't. Thanks for admitting defeat with your usual "Link?" retort. LOL

#127 | Posted by pUnk bOy at 2009-12-29 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag: Mocks women who report rape----calls them drug addicted whores

I always post links when asked, Lying Piece of Shit. I have posted the links to the books describing HW Bushs pedophilia several times. I posted a link to an eyewitness and victim several times. I posted links to the Smokestack several times, and even on this thread. WTF are you talking about pUnk bOy? Just ask, and I'll post them again. It is you that never posts links, and always talks out your ass---not me. Tell us how women who report rape are drug addicted whores again. Then post your link.

No one said they did, bOoB. But there is no doubt that they can weaken it to the point that they can't hold up the weight they were designed to do at regular temperatures.

There was molten steel there, pUnk bOy. What melted it?

I always post links when asked, Lying Piece of Shit

LOL As I said, the delusional are funny to watch. Thanks for being the DR's sideshow freak, bOoB.

There was an explosion that weakened that structure pUnk bOy.

And the structure stood intact for almost three hours after the third explosion. The heat from the fire weakened it to where it fell. I know. I've seen the video. Once a year in fact.

Again, you fail big time.

Or do you want to tell us that invisible sky fairies held it up after the last explosion, then let go almost three hours later? LOL If not, let's hear why it took three hours to fall after the last explosion.

Waiting on you. *&#&^$::) LOL

That link failed--let's try this link that clearly shows the gas was under extremely high pressure, in the open air, the fire was burning directly on the structural points that had been weakened by the EXPLOSION. In contrast, the WTC fire was smoky and oxygen starved--not under a new supply of high pressure fuel---and not burning directly on the steel supports for any length of time, since most of the fuel was burned off in the massive fireballs from the initial impacts.

So the Piper Alpha took three explosions, burned for over three hours after the last explosion under high pressure fuel in the open air--plenty of oxygen and high pressure fuel and three explosions, and burning for over three hours after the last explosion.

You compare that with--a smoky oxygen starved fire with no high pressure fuel---little fuel after the initial fireball---no fuel burning for anywhere near the lenth of time directly on the structural supports like Piper Alpha--and a collapse in little more than an hour?

No molten steel shown at Piper Alpha--plenty of molten steel shown at WTC. See the links.

You are the one living in a delusional world pUnk bOy. Tell us how you think there is such a good chance of aliens that look like human landing on 12/21/2012 that you pUnk out on the bet. BOOOO!!!

LOL

;-)

Show me a link (a credible one -- conspiracy.com is no good) that says the WTC fire burned at a lower temperature than the Piper Alpha. You said you always provide links. (I think I'll quote you next)

Speak up--make a statement---take a stand---be a man for once, and not the pUnk you prove yourself to be every day.

Waiting on you **^()%$):""#%

Remember what you said in post 128:

I always post links when asked, Lying Piece of Shit

I've a feeling you are going to prove yourself a liar yet again. Let's see if I'm right. LOL

Goat will never be satisfied with any links you provide unless they are from a site like breitbart or worldnutdaily.

I've seen the video--I've seen the explosion---have you?

Once again you prove how weak minded you are. In the previous post I declared I saw the video December 4. A few minutes later you ask me if I've seen the video.

Not that we needed further proof your mind doesn't function normally or anything LOL

Bush inherited a recession?

No, he inherited a presidency maybe that's where Mad Mary is getting that from.

Dumbya inherited 9/11?

In the sense that the last thing Clinton told him on the way out the door of the WH was that the AQ were gonna be a problem and to pay attention?

Well, yes, OBL hated America long before Dumbya came along it's true.

That noted saying Dumbya "dealt with it" is like saying the Titanic "dealt with" that iceberg.

But Mary, being who she is, will never stop polishing the turd that was is and forever shall be Bushco.

It's pretty much a reflexive impulse by now.

Plus them cheques are still clearing... Ka-Ching.

Be Well.

HOW DARE PEOPLE QUESTION THE LEADERHIP OF OUR 'WAR PRESIDENT', HERR BUSH!

He's a very decisive man of action.....unless he's being told "The Nation is under attack".......then he just sits there surrounded by children. Never asking a single question as to the nature of the attacks for 7 WHOLE MINUTES.

#134 | Posted by goatman at 2009-12-29 04:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

I have posted several links showing a smoky oxygen starved, fuel starved, fire at the WTC, and I've posted a link to the Piper Alpha, showing a high pressurized fuel fire burning in the open air. Only an idiot such as yourself would even think of comparing the two in temperature.

How about you showing a link that compares the Piper Alpha to the WTC. I post links to my statements. You are the one attempting to compare the Piper Alpha to the WTC. Post your link pUnk bOy. Put your links where your loudmouth is. LOL

Waiting on you

;-)

I have posted several links showing a smoky oxygen starved, fuel starved, fire at the WTC, and I've posted a link to the Piper Alpha, showing a high pressurized fuel fire burning in the open air. Only an idiot such as yourself would even think of comparing the two in temperature.

Show me the link that says the temperature of the WTC fire and one that shows the temperature of the Piper Alpha fire Mr. "I always provide links". Oh, you can't? I guess you lie again! LOL

How about you showing a link that compares the Piper Alpha to the WTC.

Because you said:

I always post links when asked, Lying Piece of Shit.

Are you going to prove me right about your lies again? Waiting on you ^%/"$:#()

Look, the question is about inheritance, and what nobody is saying is "if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander". If Liberals want to say that 9/11 was Bush's fault just 8 months after his taking office, then so be it. That frees Conservatives to say that everything that has happened to America since 9/11/2009 is completely on Obama. Liberals arguing for Bush's complicity on this site are no longer allowed to blame Bush for the crappy economy, devastating unemployment or the wars in the Middle East. Any phraseology along the lines of "inherited economic crisis" are banned by 9/11 conspiracy theorists unless they are also unabashed hypocrites.

Liberals arguing for Bush's complicity on this site are no longer allowed to blame Bush for the crappy economy, devastating unemployment or the wars in the Middle East.

#142 | Posted by MUSTANG

Except all of those things actually happened before Obama took office. 9/11 is a specific event which happened while Bush was in office.
Are you actually saying that the wars in the Middle East were not started by Bush? That the economy didn't tank before Jan. 20th, 2009?

No, I'm saying that 9/11 didn't happen in a vacuum. Policies were set in place, decisions were made (or not made) and funding (or lack thereof) for all varieties of programs from the FAA to the DOD was established in the 3 to 4 years prior to 9/11/01. Bush and Congress can no more be held accountable for the changes to the intelligence community infrastructure and the lack of a cohesive security effort between the USCG, DOD, FBI, CIA, etc.. than Obama and this Congress can be held accountable for the housing slump. As for the wars in the Middle East, yes, they were already happening (although I choose to say the war in Afghanistan was started by the Taliban). The same can be said for an at-the-time undeclared war against terrorism - it was already being fought, and poorly at that, when Bush took office.

RIGHT NOW we are witnessing the OBAMA handover of a terrorist situation

in his words yesterday

he said of the plane incident..
IT was "alleged" attempt to detonate...

uh hey punk...THE man was on FIRE...thats a little more than alleged

and the worse came later when the PRES said it was "isolated extremist".,.

uh no sir he wasnt isolated as we now KNOW...

this dumbass is going to get PEOPLE killed.

9/11

"And Bush dealt with it" - Murphy

I say that is the silliest thing Murphy has yet said on this blog (and that is saying something)

so how many people set themsleves on fire trying to blow up a plane in detroit after 9/11?

and how many 'soldiers' killed 14 people on a base?

RIGHT now we are seeing the NEXT president inheriting something as well..GOD FORBID

so how many people set themsleves on fire trying to blow up a plane in detroit after 9/11?

#146 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-12-29 12:46 PM |

Counting last week?

One.

How many people died on 9/11, Douchebag?

Look, the question is about inheritance, and what nobody is saying is "if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander". If Liberals want to say that 9/11 was Bush's fault just 8 months after his taking office, then so be it. That frees Conservatives to say that everything that has happened to America since 9/11/2009 is completely on Obama.

#141 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2009-12-29 09:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's funny, it didn't stop the conservative shit-heaps from blaimng Obama for EVERYTHING on the Day he took office.

I think your first Tea-Bagger fest was held THREE WEEKS after he took office.

Suddenly, deficits mattered and spending made the Tea-Baggers angry....but not for the previous 8 years, only after "The Magic Negro' was in office for three whole weeks.

p.s. Fuck You Teabaggers.

As for the wars in the Middle East, yes, they were already happening (although I choose to say the war in Afghanistan was started by the Taliban). The same can be said for an at-the-time undeclared war against terrorism - it was already being fought, and poorly at that, when Bush took office.

#143 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2009-12-29 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Are you actually claiming that the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were in effect before Bush took office?

"I have posted several links showing a smoky oxygen starved, fuel starved, fire at the WTC"
boob

Let's see, a 747 smashes into a building, that a pretty big hole. Wasn't it a 100 and something odd stories up too? It's pretty windy that high up. How you can say it was oxygen starved it idiotic.
Also, let's just say for grins that all the fuel in the fully loaded 747 did burn off in the initial impact. You don't take into account all the office furniture, carpet, drywall, paper etc that was on the floors. Did they not burn at all and just the fuel?
How you can make these claims that the fire was oxygen and fuel starved is just stupid. There was plenty of oxygen and fuel.

"a 747 smashes into a building"

Huh?

and wtf is "pUnk bOy"? is that supposed to be some sort of insult?

huh what zat? should i just say an airliner?

Just sayin' it wasn't a 747.

ok but my point was a big plane crashed into a building and created a massive hole. that fire wasn't o2 starved.

btw what kind of plane was it?

767

one more question, wtf is pUnk bOy?

The dr left, what dipshits.

IF this was an inside job, why does eric holder and the zero refuse to release information to that end. Why have all the major papers remainded silent? Why have all the participants remained silent? Why have 5 different attacks with so many details which might come public.

Why be douche bags and just cast out bullshit snippets of accusations, and refuse to consider almost all engineering anaylsis substantiating the 911 commission? Oh that's right because you don't think before you post!

Typical 911 'scholars'. Pray to 'Dr Jones', refuse to use common sense.

SO WHY HAS OBAMA REMAINED SILENT?????????????

dave do you play on bodog?

Answer the question dude

answer what question? why has obama remained silent? about what?

anyway do you play on bodog?

IF this was an inside job, why does eric holder and the zero refuse to release information to that end.

Bodog? No,... why? I do have a friendly 15 year ongoing grudge match 20 buck a weekend card against an NFL scout though....

The dr left, what dipshits.

IF this was an inside job, why does eric holder and the zero refuse to release information to that end. Why have all the major papers remainded silent? Why have all the participants remained silent? Why have 5 different attacks with so many details which might come public.

Why be douche bags and just cast out bullshit snippets of accusations, and refuse to consider almost all engineering anaylsis substantiating the 911 commission? Oh that's right because you don't think before you post!

#158 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-12-29 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dung-heap,

The loons who call themselves 9/11 Truthers come for BOTH sides of the aisle. Sorry to ruin your 'tard rant.

I was raised about 15 miles From James Carville.. always respected his family... He's gotta be smolderin' over this...

well i was playing the other night and someone who called themself "davethewave" from new jersey was at the table. must be a coincidence.

and i don't know why you're asking me that question, i've never claimed that 9/11 was an inside job.