The video is in the link as well.

You know you are in trouble when the liberals are against the bill.

And Dean is right to call this politics versus doing what is right for the country.

I agree with his statement and, of course, for different reasons.

Hahahaha I love the addition of the scream.

I wish I could flag a headline.

Perfect.

I think I spelled it right. lol

Nice job, Murph. I hope Howard prevails.

Democrat Civil War

Yeah, all us racists. Get ready for that horseshit.

#5 | Posted by vernon at

Yeah, we will all continue to be ass raped by the richest corporations in history. Win/win, right? Riiight.

Those without insurance will HAVE to be ass-raped by corporations who make 1 dime per dollar instead of 2 dimes per dollar. More customers for the rich corporations!

CHANGE!

#7 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-12-17 05:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Has never crossed a state border, let alone witnessed or experienced what happens when the 'government is only trying to help' Can't wait for the DMV-caliber public servants to decide on his medical care

"When all of this health care 'reform' nonsense goes down in flames the winner will be the American people"

Nothing could be further from the truth. Health costs for workers rose 4X the rate of inflation over the last decade. They'll continue to do that, or worse, without some type of public counterpoint. We're in desperate need of health reform in this country, and this isn't it.

Kill it, start over, and this time, address the real problems: stemming medical inflation, covering everyone, wellness, and an unprecedented emphasis on personal responsibility.

Yeah, we will all continue to be ass raped by the richest corporations in history. Win/win, right? Riiight.

#7 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-12-17 05:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

BTW, what the fuck are you even talking about when you say "the richest corporations in history"?????

Insurance companies don't come close to that. Nor do hospital companies. Even BigPharm is a distant runner.

You are so completely stupid about everything you say that your posts are not relevant .... well. except to simple minded twits like Danni, ModerHate. and Let-U-Spray

But hey, it's really, really fun to write 'Riight'

ehh?

Kill it, start over, and this time, address the real problems:

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-12-17 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

There you go!

Politics is messy and inefficient, but in a crude way it works. It has stopped this horrific slop from being passed.

Perhaps in the next Congress we will see a series of small bills that address SPECIFIC problems of a system that otherwise works -- instead of some 1937-style Soviet takeover of 17 percent of the economy.

Let's hope for change

You are so completely stupid about everything you say that your posts are not relevant ....
#11 | Posted by vernon at

#13 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-12-17 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Funny, many of the words were 'english' but not a coherent thought, comment or question

You must be trying to say something?

You likely lay around in your own shit a lot of the time with socks taped over your hands so you can't gouge your eyes out of your head, riiight?

Hey, stop me if this sounds familiar,

#13 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-12-17 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

You have apparently put a lot of thought into fantasizing it

riiiiiight?

Kill it, start over, and this time, address the real problems: stemming medical inflation, covering everyone, wellness, and an unprecedented emphasis on personal responsibility.

#10 | Posted by Danforth

Shocked Dan !!

And Harry 'the body' Reid is hiding the bill--the 'Manager's Amendment'.

No one knows what's in it or how much it costs.

But hey--vote on it anyway!

I cant believe that you guys still hold this over this wonderfull spokesman for american ideals

well unless you drive a truck in the south or you sweep a floor in some highrise..

I mean come on...who hasnt gotten thier shorts caught up in their crack before?

"Politics is messy and inefficient, but in a crude way it works. It has stopped this horrific slop from being passed."

We don't know if it has prevented this from passing but we do know that politics is why the proposal isn't a clear, clean simple bill which would actually serve the needs of the people.
Lobbyists make sure nothing good will be passed and simpletons like Vernon thinks that is good.

ah danni
before I go you just HAVE to let us in on your thoughts about all of the democrats who have told all of us that they care much more about the BIGPHARMA corporate BIG SHOTS now that they have denied cheaper drugs for YOU AND ME..

cant wait for your answer ...

ah but I here is my prediction of your answer.

you DONT LIKE IT at all but you will continue to support them....close.......??????????
????

"you just HAVE to let us in on your thoughts about all of the democrats who have told all of us that they care much more about the BIGPHARMA corporate BIG SHOTS now that they have denied cheaper drugs for YOU AND ME.."

Fuck 'em.

Better yet...make them use our health care. They talk about "Cadillac" plans, all they while there's is a "Limo" plan.

"you DONT LIKE IT at all but you will continue to support them....close.......?"

Wrong. I'm against any "reform" that doesn't address the problems I listed above, as well as tort reform, portability, and large risk pools. The worst thing that could happen is this crap is passed and they call it "health reform". It's nothing of the sort.

Sorry...I didn't comment specifically on the Pharma subject:

Fuck 'em. It was lousy when the Republicans screwed the public, but that's to be expected. For the Dems to do it is inexcusable.

The worst thing that could happen is this crap is passed and they call it "health reform". It's nothing of the sort.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-12-17 01:42 PM

"and we'll still be the football."

No wonder I feel like I've been kicked around toward some obscure goal.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer

five years after diagnosis:

U.S.. 65%

England 46%

Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who

received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received

it within six months:

U.S. 90%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one

within one month:

U.S. 77%

England 40%

Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per

million people:

U.S. 71

England 14

Canada 18

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I did not verify these statistics, but it doesn't matter, I'm a Libertarian and I want less government.

So for once in my life I agree with Howard Dean.