EU Times: Obama Preparing for Civil War

.....it's hard to hold it against the Europeans for thinking that way......

......considering the noises coming from our media........

We need civil war. Repubs and Dems should not be forced to live together.

QUICK! FIND YOURSELF A GOOD MORMON FAMILY TO HANG OUT WITH!

it's hard to hold it against the Europeans for thinking that way

Any foreigner who watches our news channels must think that the US is the most schizophrenic country on Earth.

#2 | Posted by jackass at 2009-12-11 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

At the very least, noboby should be forced to live with you.

Any foreigner who watches our news channels must think that the US is the most schizophrenic country on Earth.

#4 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Hell, I know Americans who believe that as well!
The US media are the biggest bunch of propaganda-promoting, lying, misleading, over-sensationalizing, antagonistic narcissists the world has ever known.

Lucky for them (the media), Americans are stupid enough to believe their lies, and passive enough not to hold them accountable when discover they've lied.

Happy Holidays.

Hell, I know Americans who believe that as well!

I don't think our country is schizophrenic. I think it is politically polarized.

Our media is a different story. They're not schizophrenic, either... they're smoking angel dust.

#7 | Posted by ZombieHunter

AGREED

I didn't appreciate the author's disingenuous slam with the racial overtone.

#9 - si, es verdad.

Although I don't know any who are ready to explode and know even a few "people of color" who realize they've been duped. This is a good lesson for all of U.S.

More pants-pissing from JeffinDenmark's idiot cousin.

Repubs and Dems should not be forced to live together.

#2 | Posted by jackass at 2009-12-11 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Force?

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't like America? Go to Mexico or shut up.

"Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't like America? Go to Taiwan or shut up."
#12 | Posted by vernon

FTFY, you ex-pat douchebag.

Boy, that Obama sure has swung the countries of the world over to our side. Would this void his "yet to be earned" Nobel Peace Prize?

"Vaclav Havel on Obama: Soiling Your Pants Prematurely Will Not Gain You International Respect"
gatewaypundit.firstthings.com

FTFY, you ex-pat douchebag.

#13 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-12-12 12:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm an American with a MAGICAL document called a PASSPORT.

I know it is hard to imagine, but with my MAGICAL PASSPORT I can travel far beyond the mall, Safeway and EVEN Wal-Mart!

Isn't that exciting?!?!?!?!

Someday, Mommy will let you go someplace new, too! Maybe even Home Depot!!!!

Please tell us about your big adventure!

Rand Doc: A Stability Police Force for the US

RAND Corporation is a research arm of the Military-Industrial-Homeland Security Complex.

The SPFOR (to use the inevitable acronym) would be a "hybrid" military/law enforcement unit created within the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS) for use "in a range of tasks such as crowd and riot control, special weapons and tactics (SWAT), and investigations of organized criminal groups" both abroad, in UN-directed multilateral military operations, and at home, as dictated by the needs of the Regime.

Initially as small as 26,000 personnel, the SPFOR's size "could be increased by augmenting it with additional federal, state, or local police from the United States" as necessary.

The study, which was conducted for the U.S. Army's Peacekeeping and Stability Operations Institute, recommended using the Marshals Service rather than the US Army's Military Police as host for the SPFOR in order to avoid conflicts with the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids (albeit in principle more than in practice) the domestic use of the military as a law enforcement body.

"The USMS hybrid option provides an important nondeployed mission for the force: augmenting state and local agencies, many of which currently suffer from severe personnel shortages," states the report without explaining how the SPFOR could at once "augment" those under-manned agencies while at the same time being "augmented" by them if necessary.

Building the SPFOR within the Marshals Service "would place it where its members can develop the needed skills under the hybrid staffing option. Furthermore, the USMS has the broadest law enforcement mandate of any U.S. law enforcement agency. This model provides significant domestic policing and homeland security benefits by providing thousands of additional police officers across the United States."

Back in 1961, the U.S. Government produced a document entitled "Freedom From War" that envisioned the creation of a globe-spanning United Nations "Peace Force" that would work in collaboration with a militarized "internal security" force in each country.

PDF is 213 pages

Here is the Table of Contents:

Preface. . . . . iii
Figures. . . . . ix
Tables. . . . . xi
Summary. . . . . xiii
Acknowledgments. . . . xxv
Glossary. . . . . xxvii
chapt er one
Introduction. . . . . 1
Need for a High-End Policing Capacity. . . 3
Inescapable Reality. . . . 4
Primacy of Security. . . . 5
Mixed U.S. Record. . . . 9
How Would an SPF Be Used?. . . . 16
Research Design. . . . . 17
chapt er two
Objectives and Tasks. . . . 21
Objectives. . . . . 21
Tasks. . . . . 23
High-End Policing. . . . 24
Building Indigenous Police Capacity. . . 31
Security Operations. . . . 34
Cross-Cutting Issues. . . . 37
Conclusion. . . . . 38
vi A Stability Police Force for the United States
chapt er three
Size and Speed of Deployment. . . 41
Sizing. . . . . 42
Speed of Deployment. . . . 50
Conclusion. . . . . 58
chapt er four
Institutional Capabilities. . . . 61
Doctrine. . . . . 63
Organization. . . . . 64
Training. . . . . 65
Materiel. . . . . 67
Leader Development and Education. . . 68
Personnel. . . . . 70
Facilities. . . . . 72
Other Institutional Issues. . . . 72
Authorities. . . . . 73
Proposed SPF Structure. . . . 76
Permanent Headquarters. . . . 76
Stability Police Units. . . . 78
chapt er fi ve
Which Agency Should Create and Maintain an SPF?. . 83
Evaluating Options. . . . 83
Tactical Suitability. . . . 84
Institutional Suitability. . . . 85
Overall Suitability. . . . 86
Headquarters Options. . . . 87
U.S. Marshals Service. . . . 89
Background. . . . . 89
Assessment. . . . . 94
U.S. Secret Service. . . . 99
Background. . . . . 100
Assessment. . . . . 101
State INL. . . . . 104
Background. . . . . 105
Assessment. . . . . 106
Contents vii
U.S. Army Military Police. . . . 112
Background. . . . . 112
Assessment. . . . . 114
Conclusion. . . . . 122
chapt er si x
Staffing: Standing or Reserve?. . . 125
Criteria for Evaluating Options. . . 126
Standing Force Option. . . . 128
Evaluation of Standing Force Option. . . 128
Reserve Force Option. . . . 130
Evaluation of Reserve Option. . . 131
Hybrid Option. . . . . 134
Evaluation of Hybrid Force Option. . . 137
Discussion of Options. . . . 141
chapt er seven
Costing. . . . . 145
Personnel Costs. . . . . 146
Training Costs. . . . . 148
Facilities Costs. . . . . 149
Equipment Costs. . . . 150
Operations and Maintenance Costs. . . 151
Administrative and Other Costs. . . 152
Total Costs. . . . . 152
chapt er eig ht
Conclusions. . . . . 155
The Need for a Stability Force. . . . 156
Building an SPF. . . . . 157
Objectives and Tasks. . . . 157
Sizing an SPF. . . . . 157
Deployment Speed. . . . 158
Headquarters in the U.S. Government. . . 159
Staffing. . . . . 161
Cost. . . . . 162
Summary. . . . . 163
viii A Stability Police Force for the United States
app endix
Other Headquarters Options. . . 167
Bibliography. . . . . 173

You asked in another discussion whether EU Times is a credible source. It's an online newspaper founded in October 2009 and the source that it cites for this story is American Resistance Radio, which appears to be a one-man operation.

So, no, I don't regard this story as credible.

LOL--and people call ME a nutcase. At least the Smokestack on the moon has credible sources and video to back it up.

However, to protect yourself, I suggest purchasing all the weapons and ammunition you can, and keep them with you at all times. Especially in your car. Also, get to wherever you are going as quickly as possible. The police will understand your reasoning when they pull you over for speeding, your expenditures will help boost the economy, you will keep those weapons out of the hands of bad guys, and be protecting your family and America. Also, buy a flag to wave so other people know you are a good guy.

#19 boobie
LOL--and people call ME a nutcase. At least the Smokestack on the moon has credible sources and video to back it up.

First of all, your statement is completely brainless and anti-productive. You discredit the role of the logical skeptic as we would tend to agree on issues as the 911 Commission Report mythology.

The story has been up for over 24 hrs. Boob had no comment until rCade comes in here and suggests only that the source is not verifiable. Can't wait until all your lefty buddies jump on your bandwagon.

Really, the question is whether there was such an order to Northcom. The rest of the story is simply a first-hand anecdote of what we have all been witnessing.

Look at it logically. Is Barack Obama really worried about civil war? He very well could be. Washington politicians and bureaucrats are the most paranoid people on the planet. The problem is--as with most power-hungry Machiavellians--their paranoia often translates into more oppression and less liberty for the citizenry.

You also ignore the massive Rand Corporation's 'A Stability Police Force for the US: Justification and Options for Creating US Capabilities' document that would provide some evidentiary credibility to the notion.

You're not so intelligent there with the smokestacks on the moon inference which I do not subscribe to, boob.

Ass kisser or not #19 wss funi imho

"I suggest purchasing all the weapons and ammunition you can"

Why?

I'm assuming your car has an antenna on it.

"At least the Smokestack on the moon has credible sources and video to back it up."

I'd ask you for some of the shit you're smoking, but I'm afraid it would kill me.

I have a friend in Ireland that echos the pretence of the article. I'm not sure we're even close to that extreme yet. I seriously doubt Obama would trust the military to follow his orders if it were ordered to go against the American people.

"I seriously doubt Obama would trust the military to follow his orders if it were ordered to go against the American people."

That's why he said he wanted to form a civilian force that is as well funded and as well financed as the military. SEIU, anyone?

www.youtube.com

I seriously doubt Obama would trust the military to follow his orders if it were ordered to go against the American people.

I don't have that doubt. The military wouldn't see itself as going against the American people. They would see themselves as quashing rebellion against authority.

Of course this is all in the rumor stage. I do know that the FDIC is running out of means to keep up with failing banks. A rumor from another source says that they don't plan on insuring deposits starting in January. If this turns out to be true, as soon as word spreads, there would be a run on banks.

The banking panic of 1933 has similar origins. Near the eve of Roosevelt's election, rumors of his plans to shut down the banks precipitated the run on the banks. Roosevelt denied it all the way to the day he declared a banking holiday.

Do not keep more money in the banking system than you need for regular expenses.

#26 | Posted by Ray at 2009-12-13 10:49 AM |

Shoe box, refrigerator, or mattress. Which is your pick, Ray?

I'm not telling, Washboard.