This is cause for celebration.

What a cheapskate.

That's a shame.

Well crap...it looks like the ACLU will have to slow down removing all religions except Islam from the public eye for awhile.

Don't get your hopes up nit wits, the ACLU will be with us for a very long time. I'll make sure to make a small contribution this weekend. I sure hope Rush Limbaugh expresses his appreciation in a monetary way too.

#5 | Posted by wisgod

Absolutely appropriate.

I'll make sure to make a small contribution this weekend.
Posted by danni

When the postage is more than the contribution, is it really worth it?

I sure hope Rush Limbaugh expresses his appreciation in a monetary way too.

Well of course he will Danni. Air America was another beneficiary of LRUSHBO.

I'm on a whiskey drunk tonight and tonight's word is symbiotic

Limbaugh and the Left are symbiotic

Now who they gonna sue?

p.s. I was under the impression that "rethuglicans" had all the money...isn't that what y'all have been telling U.S. for years?

I'm on a whiskey drunk tonight and tonight's word is symbiotic

That drink should come with bail money.

Now who they gonna sue?

Ghostbusters?

That drink should come with bail money.

Fucking liberal....Whiskey is for MEN.

Whiskey is for MEN.

Tequila is for men. Whiskey is for rednecks. Though I am not above draining a bit of wild turkey 101 if the night calls for it.

#14 | Posted by wurster

AND Woman too, but not ones like Zombiehunter.

Tequila is for southerners.

Whiskey is for rednecks.

You did call that shit right.

Tequila is for men. Whiskey is for rednecks. Though I am not above draining a bit of wild turkey 101 if the night calls for it.

#15 | Posted by ZombieHunter
And Mom and Dad are at the movies.....

BEST.

HOLIDAY.

DRINK.

OF THE SEASON:

In a blender combine:

1 shot tequila
3/4 cup+- eggnog
ice

blend until of a consistency you like. drink. have another.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

You forgot the dash of nutmeg, nanc!

#22 - yes, you must throw it over your shoulder for good luck!

IF you can find it - here's a good recipe for the Wild Turkey:

Dig up a sassafras root as big around as your thumb and approximately six inches long (a foot long in the case of those with high aspirations...) - peel the outside of the root off with a potato peeler - slice into one inch sections and put into about 2-3 cups of water to simmer on low for a couple of hours, adding water as needed to keep the deep red color.

Remove from heat and cool to a drinkable temperature. Add a tablespoon of sugar or other sweetener and a half cup of Wild Turkey - place into thermal mugs.

Find something to burn down, torch it and stare at it until you can't stand it anymore.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

#24 | Posted by nanc

Jack Daniel's if you please

Jack, Jim...

Jack Daniel's if you please.

#25 | Posted by wurster

Maybe they will take him to court and sue him!

Its seems to have worked for ACORN.

If the ACLU still carries any of the Roger Baldwin Legacy, they should have no problem getting support from someone like Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro.

You obviously don't know much about Roger Baldwin.

Only what I've read... first that he was a communist "small c." That in his own words he supported the communist cause:

"Therefore, I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of property, the abolition of the properted class and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of the system of dog-eat-dog under which we live, and the substitution by the most effective non-violence possible of a system of cooperative ownership and use of all wealth." (Baldwin, 1935, at Harvard)

And despite his profession of the need for "civil rights," those rights would always be subordinate to the greater good, represented by a "dictatorship of the proletariat:"

"When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever. Dictatorship is the obvious means in a world of enemies at home and abroad. I dislike it in principle as dangerous to its own objects. But the Soviet Union has already created liberties far greater than exist elsewhere in the world. They are liberties that most closely affect the lives of the people power in the trade unions, in peasant organizations, in the cultural life of nationalities, freedom of women in public and private life, and a tremendous development of education for adults and children." (Baldwin, "Soviet Russia Today, 1934)

Anyway, all I know is what I've read, and to me he sounds like one more idealogue who knew what was best for us. Even moreso that we ourselves. Claiming that the Soviet Union, at that time under Stalin and already seeing massive show trials and executions, was freer than anywhere else? Really? Maybe in Potemkin village.

What is it that I don't know about him?

Guess those California taxes are starting to be a little too much?

You obviously don't know much about Roger Baldwin.
#30 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Only what I've read... first that he was a communist "small c." That in his own words he supported the communist cause...
#31 | Posted by madbomber

Baldwin was a pacifist who spent a year in the slammer during World War I for being a conscientious objector; led the ACLU when it was involved in the Scopes, Sacco-Vanzetti, and Ulysses contoveries; went to Japan after WW2 at MacArthur's invitation to assist in the development of civil liberties; and recieved the Medal of Freedom.

Like so many in the wake of the Russian Revolution, Baldwin flirted with Communism and visited the Soviet Union in the 1920s. Later, he wrote of "the inhuman comunist police state tyranny" and led a purge of CPUSA members from the ACLU.

I guess the investments he's made in the green sector aren't paying off. Wind and solar farms have crappy ROI.

I guess the investments he's made in the green sector aren't paying off. Wind and solar farms are expensive to implement and maintain and have crappy ROI.

Doh! DD post!

"Like so many in the wake of the Russian Revolution, Baldwin flirted with Communism and visited the Soviet Union in the 1920s. Later, he wrote of "the inhuman comunist police state tyranny" and led a purge of CPUSA members from the ACLU."

I don't think Baldwin was ever a member of the CPUSA, and he later in life he did become critical of the Soviet government, but that really doesn't change the fact that he supported a detestable ideology, one where human rights, the very thing he claimed to be in support of, would be subordinate to some greater cause. Of that there can be no doubt. It is possible that, later in life, he changed his mind on that too. If so, then it can truthfully be stated that the ACLU no longer carries the Roger Baldwin legacy, leaving no real reason for any current Marxist to offer up support.

#5 | Posted by wisgod

Just goes to show that it doesn't matter who you are or where you live ------ some group of crazy, foamy mouthed bastards will ululate in the streets to most asinine things.

Anyway, I wonder how this plays into the wingdings long running meme that George Soros is funding everything in the liberal universe.
I'm sure the Wingdings didn't consider this when they started masturbating to this --- they never do (that whole time/reality is a "conservatives" worst enemy thing)!

"guess the investments he's made in the green sector aren't paying off. Wind and solar farms are expensive to implement and maintain and have crappy ROI."
#35 | Posted by OUR_ZERO at 2009-12-11 10:34 AM | Reply | Flag: doesn't know there are half a dozen permits out there for new Nuclear Power Plants, but no one will commit to the construction costs due to a long ROI.

Now that's news that brings a tear to my eye.

Ha ha, and one of the Aclu rats blew his cover. He wanted to stay anonymous but was ratted out. Shows the "caliber" of the turdcans working for that group. This is the way libs are, all nicey nice until you tick them off a little, then watch out.

Don't get your hopes up nit wits, the ACLU will be with us for a very long time. I'll make sure to make a small contribution this weekend. I sure hope Rush Limbaugh expresses his appreciation in a monetary way too.

#6 | Posted by danni
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Don't hold your breath danni, I wouldn't give the ACLU any money whatsoever and well I don't think Rush is going to go out his way to give them any money either. Just think you are so excited about Obama's election, you probably don't see this as a product of the liberal messiah's economy but indeed it is.

However, I am sending Linda McMahon money because I'd love to see Chris Dodd receive a smackdown in his re-election bid.

Lonnie

Don't hold your breath danni, I wouldn't give the ACLU any money whatsoever and well I don't think Rush is going to go out his way to give them any money either.
#42 | Posted by lwalk17

How do you uncover these newsworthy scoops?

"and about $50 million a year that he's been giving to an organization serving veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan."

This is cause for celebration.

#1 | Posted by wurster Flag: Another America hater

It's funny how the ACLU is perhaps the largest organized advocate for freedom of speech in the U.S., yet the ACLU's main detractors are almost all on the right side of the spectrum.

Why does the right hate the ACLU so much? The ACLU has protected the liberties of all Americans. Does the right believe that only their opinion/ideology deserves protection, and so demonizes the ACLU because it tries to protect the rights of all?

You'd think some of our posters would appreciate what the ACLU did for them in Skokie. But that was a long time ago (33 years) and memories are short. So it goes.

"and well I don't think Rush is going to go out his way to give them any money either."

You're probably right, he probably really is a free loader. He sure accepted their help when he needed it though didn't he????
Kind of makes me think more of the ACLU and less of him...if it were even possible to think less of him.

"Why does the right hate the ACLU so much?"

Because they are too simple minded to understand that defending the rights of those who you find objectionable is the only way to insure that our rights will endure.

"Why does the right hate the ACLU so much?"

Same reason they hate everyone else. The ACLU represents people of all color and creed, not just Christians with money.

I sure hope Rush Limbaugh expresses his appreciation in a monetary way too.

We can always hope, but with Rush, the only thing we can hope for a massive heart failure do to eating one too many babies.

"It's funny how the ACLU is perhaps the largest organized advocate for freedom of speech in the U.S., yet the ACLU's main detractors are almost all on the right side of the spectrum."

I suspect it is because of the long standing association between the left and the ACLU. The the International Committee for the Red Cross is in a similar position. Of course the facts show that the ACLU has a history of defending a myriad of fringe casues, from socialists and anarchists, to Nazis, to pedophiles. Had the founder not himself been associated with radical groups, I suspect the perception would be much different.

The ICRC on the other hand, openly supported revolutionary leftist militants. They neglectd to do the same for those in support of European national socialism. I think that there the bias is clear.

"Because they are too simple minded to understand that defending the rights of those who you find objectionable is the only way to insure that our rights will endure."

Noam Chomsky is credited with saying something very similar. May have been the smartest thing to ever come out of Chomsky's mouth. It's very true.

Same reason they hate everyone else. The ACLU represents people of all color and creed, not just Christians with money.

#49 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-12-11 12:15 PM

Which is why you condone your donation going to the ACLU so they can defend NAMBLA?

Which is why you condone your donation going to the ACLU so they can defend NAMBLA?

What I love about the ACLU is that even though they will defend scum like NAMBLA, they will also defend the rights of the people who maintain NAMBLA's servers to out the group's members.

If they came to me to host their website, that's exactly what I would do. I'll take their filthy pedo-money and give it to a victim support group. Then I'll post their IP, name, and address for all to see.

The ACLU at least stands by their principles. That's more than you can say for most bloodsucking politicians.

RINGLICKER is a MASTER of cryptoblogging. There must be hidden meanings or messages in his posts because they are completelt nonsensical.

The NAMBLA case was about the right to free speech, not pedophilia. As the majority of porn viewers are right wing Christians, it protects their rights as much as anyone's rights. It's up the the justice system to prosecute the pedophiles, not those who write about the legality or illegality of it.

Fuck Wad Thom is a master of foul mouth ring wing rhetoric. Hence the name.

"the majority of porn viewers are right wing Christians"

Link?

Oh wait, that post was by Cinnamon-Ring Master. Carry on with your typical bullshit.

The NAMBLA case was about the right to free speech, not pedophilia.
#56 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-12-11 01:12 PM

So, their free speech trumps the little boys they are trying have sex with? Free speech means to end the oppression of consensual sex between men and little boys?

What the hell do you think the acronym Man-Boy-Love-Association means?

YEAH....HOO HOO...We're in the money ...we're in the money.....ding dong the LU is dead - which old LU?...The AC-LU!

So the economy catches up to the American Communist Lawyers Association.

They succeeded in getting one of their own in the Whitehouse...lets hope that is the high water mark for them...Like Gettysburg for the South!

So, their free speech trumps the little boys they are trying have sex with?

I believe the court ruled there is a line between thought and action and that thoughts are never illegal. To bar someone from saying they want to change a law, any law, is to bar them from free speech.

If the ACLU is so left wing as you righties say, what about Bob Barr?

"Ousted Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., is heading over to the American Civil Liberties Union to work on informational and data privacy issues, the organization announced Monday.

The firebrand conservative -- a gun rights advocate, anti-gay rights activist and prosecutor in the impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton -- told Fox News on Tuesday that the collaboration is not as strange as it might appear at first blush...

...Both opposed a national ID, the Justice Department's Carnivore Internet snooping system, the proposed "Know Your Customer" banking regulation, and the controversial Operation TIPS citizen-spy program, which was legislated out of existence earlier this month."

Crispee - Ring is just like Obama's "Education Security Czar" They both believe that there is no butt to young to put your dinky-do in.

#61...
The "oppression" line is straight from NAMBLA. They seem to want it to be legal for more "action" and less "thought"... Not sure how there is a free speech implication, as someone posted earlier.

They seem to want it to be legal for more "action" and less "thought"... Not sure how there is a free speech implication, as someone posted earlier.

Their "wants" are the free speech. They are not doing it (per say), but simply want it to be legal. No different than NORML for example- an organization pushing to make legal something not legal.

Fucking little boys= illegal
Wanting to fuck little boys= sick, but legal

I'll bet the Reverend Jackasson will be raising holy hell on the Sunday talk shows.

The ACLU doesn't take on cases that are not in direct violation of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

When foul mouths like FW Thom and FOShaffer (possible the same poster) want to libel people over the internet with sick and immoral insinuations, they can, with a fair degree of safety that myself or someone else less tolerant won't try to have them prosecuted.

As they can see this works both ways. Now, should the do gooders and holy rollers succeed in destroying the first amendment as these two clowns would be the first to endorse, they too would be muzzled and no longer allowed to cry foul about the very people trying to take away their freedom to express themselves with a toilet mouth.

"They were among the only legal groups to challenge many provisions of the illegal and unconstitutional Patriot Act."

They also filed some silly lawsuit siding with journalists, who "assumed" they would be targeted because of the new FISA laws. Much like many others that have wasted the courts time and taxpayer money....

Why does the right hate the ACLU so much?

Because they are incapable of making the distinction between defending a person's right to say or think about doing something others would find offensive or illegal versus actually committing the act.

They also filed some silly lawsuit siding with journalists, who "assumed" they would be targeted because of the new FISA laws. Much like many others that have wasted the courts time and taxpayer money....

Don't be so stupid crispee, it worked, didn't it? You call that a waste of taxpayer's money, I say your ignorant remark is just another sniveling pubbie who's only concern is his wallet.

So, their free speech trumps the little boys they are trying have sex with? Free speech means to end the oppression of consensual sex between men and little boys?

Pretty much as the American nazis free speech trumps the jews they wanted to gas.

Righties hate the ACLU (except when they need them) because righties don't believe anybody but Republicans should say anything.

You don't see them bitching about this stuff:

The ACLU and the ACLU of New Jersey (2009) filed a successful lawsuit on behalf of a New Jersey prisoner an ordained Pentecostal minister to restore his fundamental right to preach to other inmates. The minister had preached at weekly Christian worship services at the New Jersey State Prison in Trenton, NJ for more than a decade when prison officials suddenly banned that activity without any justification. As a result of the ACLU lawsuit, state officials agreed to allow the minister to resume preaching and teaching Bible study classes under the supervision of prison staff.
www.aclu.org/religion-belief/ ordained-pentecostal-minister- can-preach-prison-after-aclu- lawsuit

The ACLU of Michigan (2009) filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of the First Baptist Church of Ferndale after local residents cited a zoning ordinance to prevent the church from providing social services to the poor and homeless on church property. The ACLU argued that zoning boards may not burden the free exercise of religion simply because neighbors object.
www.dailytribune.com/articles/ 2009/09/25/news/ srv0000006478506.txt

The ACLU of Tennessee (2009) came to the defense of a group of student teachers who conduct church services with the homeless in a public park. The ACLU successfully negotiated with the Metro Board of Parks and Recreation to revise a policy that had unfairly blocked religious groups' regular use of park space.
www.aclu.org/religion-belief/ aclu-tn-successfully- advocates-behalf-student- preachers

The ACLU and the ACLU of Virginia (2009) argued against the censorship of religious materials being sent to detainees in the Rappahannock Regional Jail. The ACLU wrote a letter to the superintendent of the jail, asking that the jail cease the removal of Christian-themed materials and biblical passages from letters written to detainees. As a result of ACLU involvement, the prison agreed to change its policies and allow religious mail.
www.aclu.org/prison/restrict/ 40258prs20090709.html

The ACLU of Louisiana (2009) argued for the right of Christian preachers to distribute pamphlets at the Breaux Bridge Crawfish Festival. The ACLU wrote a letter to the mayor in support of the preachers, who had been ordered to stop handing out religious material.
content.usatoday.net/dist/ custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx? cId=thetowntalk&sParam=30796437.story

The ACLU of Louisiana (2009) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of Donald Leger, a devout Catholic and prisoner on death row at Angola State Prison. The lawsuit challenged the prison's policy mandating that all televisions on death row be tuned to predominately Baptist programming on Sunday mornings. Under the terms of a settlement in the case, Mr. Leger was able to view Catholic Mass regularly and was permitted private confessional visits with a priest.
www.laaclu.org/ newsArchive.php?id=342#n342

The ACLU of Texas (2009) filed a friend-of-the-court brief in support of a Christian pastor and his faith-based rehabilitation facility in Sinton, Texas. The ACLU urged the court to reverse a decision that had prohibited the pastor from operating his rehabilitation program near his church and also had sharply limited the reach of the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act. In June 2009, the Texas Supreme Court agreed and ruled in favor of the pastor.
aclutx.org/article.php? aid=726

#70...

What worked? The case was thrown out. They tried some end around and lost. Much like they try and circumvent courts. Which is a waste of time and money.

The fact you feel NAMBLA is on their priority list, speaks volumes.

halting ... about $50 million a year that he's been giving to an organization serving veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now that's news that brings a tear to my eye.

#40 | Posted by Sniper

Another America hater, pissing on the troops.

#71...

No different in my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble. You know, the blanketed line all cons defend anything invloving religion or the church.

"Now, should the do gooders and holy rollers succeed in destroying the first amendment as these two clowns would be the first to endorse, they too would be muzzled and no longer allowed to cry foul about the very people trying to take away their freedom to express themselves with a toilet mouth."

One area where the ACLU has fallen down is in attempting to remove Islamic religious symbology from the public life. They are well known for fighting against Christian regalia or practices from being presented in public places, but to my knowledge they haven't really touched on any Islamic issues.

Of course with the Muslims there can eb consequences for insulting the religion...up to and including death. Perhaps the ACLU is more concerned with self-preservation than rights preservation

One area where the ACLU has fallen down is in attempting to remove Islamic religious symbology from the public life.

The ACLU has to have a case to work with. What case are you talking about madbomber?

One area where the ACLU has fallen down is in attempting to remove Islamic religious symbology from the public life.

I wasn't aware that there was any. Is some Alabama courthouse now sporting the 99 names of allah?

"When foul mouths like FW Thom and FOShaffer (possible the same poster) want to libel people over the internet with sick and immoral insinuations, they can, with a fair degree of safety that myself or someone else less tolerant won't try to have them prosecuted."

#67 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-12-11 01:55 PM

Ring - Talk about LIBEL - What Sick and Immoral insinuations are you referring to? All your posts are about supporting NAMBLA?! Which one of us is Sick and Immoral?

PS FW Thom and I ARE NOT the same person.

What worked? The case was thrown out.

The hell it was. It was amended to limit such surveillance to only cases where suspected Al Qaeda suspects were involved. The debate isn't over yet.

"On January 18, 2007, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee "Court orders issued last week by a Judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court will enable the government to conduct electronic surveillance very specifically, surveillance into or out of the United States where there is probable cause to believe that one of the communicants is a member or agent of al Qaeda or an associated terrorist organization subject to the approval of the FISA Court."

The key words are "probable cause", which the Bush administration claimed was never necessary.

This was a big win for American rights and the only reason for the change was the work of the ACLU. .

I sure hope Rush Limbaugh expresses his appreciation in a monetary way too.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2009-12-10 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag

Danni you are simply an ignorant twit, the ACLU did not defend Rush Limbaugh, you are just too stupid to understand that writing an amicus brief on their position of the law is not he same thing as defending someone. Go back to cleaning the bathroom, something you can truly understand

Thabks a pant load ACLU for making our country less safe from Muslims and hastening the day when a mushroom cloud appears over an American city. I hope you will be having your annual convention in that city.

The point is Thom boy is that the ACLU does not cherry pick issues like you do and they don't care what you think, thank God.

ACLU does not cherry pick issues
#82 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-12-11 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag

BULL SHIT!

"The point is Thom boy is that the ACLU does not cherry pick issues like you do and they don't care what you think, thank God."

How does NAMBLA rank on the scale of important issues they could be fighting? Or kicking the Boy Scouts out of a park they took care of for decades?

ACLU doesn't cherry pick issues? Looks like Ring must have fell off his mountain and hit his head. Or maybe it's the toxic CO2. That is the entire intent of the ACLU. How else could they possibly get involved?

#85...
I am thinking ringmaster is a big Gloria Allred fan as well. lol

Has the ACLU jumped on the protect ACORN bandwagon yet? Probably most of the same people, anyway. Or maybe they're still too busy killing Christmas and trying to get rid of those pesky flags and pledges in school classrooms.

ACLU does not cherry pick issues
#82 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-12-11 03:40 PM

I guess they don't cherry pick their venues or judges when they file cases either.

Hey Spokane, don't forget the ACLU is also rushing to protect terrorists, murderers, and NAMBLA.

Hah! That got 'em miffed. You want cherry pickers you need to look at all the republicans discussing some hacked emails from England.

Oh! Lest I forget, There's that little matter of Rush Limbaugh who denies his drug abuse.

"In a motion filed today, the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida said state law enforcement officers violated Rush Limbaugh's privacy rights by seizing the conservative radio talk show host's medical records as part of a criminal investigation involving alleged ""doctor-shopping."

...and 777 is not cherry picking?

FWThom,you are simply an ignorant twit, the ACLU did not defend NAMBLA, you are just too stupid to understand that writing an amicus brief on their position of the law is not he same thing as defending someone. Go back to cleaning the bathroom, something you can truly understand

well put 777.

777 seems to have a hardon for Danni. Which whiny righty was he before December 1?

Writing an amicus brief is by definition supporting the cause. Duh.

very happy for the aclu, just wish more group's or people will add to the list.

I'll wholeheartedly add my (non)support to the ACLU, as long as they keep attacking my fellow countrymen.....

post#95...you are not funny. This is what half the spineless assholes in the country are doing.

HaHaHa! What do you want to bet he fell for that?

post#95...you are not funny. This is what half the spineless assholes in the country are doing.

Sorry...should have been post #96.

The ACLU does not attack people. They help them maintain their rights. If that happens to go against your sick philosophy, then you are the one who is on the attack.

Could one of you rightwingers who hate the ACLU tell me what organization of lawyers you would prefer to protect your rights in the instead or would you prefer no organization did?

Hey Spokane, don't forget the ACLU is also rushing to protect terrorists, murderers, and NAMBLA.

*head-desk*

The ACLU are one of the aspects of America that are still worth admiring.

People like Fuck-Wit Thom, Frogshafter and Spooky Jim are not.

That is all.

Be Well.

#100 | Posted by RingMaster

I wouldn't expect an answer to that. I doubt if their pundits have ever suggested a fair alternative.

#100

I'll answer that. NO lawyer group should be necessary. We have the Constitution of the US. WE have the justice system. We have separation of powers. We have the right of the accused to a fair trial. We have an entire bill of rights. I do not need a self serving legal group.

What we have the ACLU doing is MAKING laws by twisting and perverting the statutes that are already in place. The collusion between the ACLU and various liberal judges that PERSONALLY do not like this law or that - using cases that they select to basically create legislation from the bench. We were not established to have a series of legal despots putting their personal agendas ahead of the will of the populace. But that is what we have with the ACLU

If I need a lawyer I will get my own.

There are many environmentalists (me included) who believe that stabilization of population growth in the USA is the only solution to maintaining our quality of life and a healthy environment.

David Gelbaum told the head of the Sierra Club that they must never oppose immigration illegal or otherwise.

To quote: Then, on Oct. 27, 2004, the Los Angeles Times revealed the answer: David Gelbaum, a super rich donor, had demanded this position from the Sierra Club in return for huge donations! Kenneth Weiss, author of the LA Times article that broke the story, quoted what David Gelbaum said to Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope:

"I did tell Carl Pope in 1994 or 1995 that if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me."

What we have the ACLU doing is MAKING laws by twisting and perverting the statutes that are already in place.

#103 | Posted by foshaffer

What we have is a multitude of entities "MAKING laws by twisting and perverting the statutes" for their own agenda. It has little to do with liberal/conservative. The ACLU in part exists to help all against civil injustice, by leveling the field against stronger, wealthier, or more powerful influences, in accordance with our Bill of Rights.

If I need a lawyer I will get my own.

Not everyone can afford their own lawyer to fight civil injustice or inequity.

Writing an amicus brief is by definition supporting the cause. Duh.

#94 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-12-11 10:33 PM | Reply | Flag

yes dumb fuck the cause not the person

777 seems to have a hardon for Danni. Which whiny righty was he before December 1?

#93 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-12-11 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag

why is it that lustful lefties always couch their words in terms of penis performance?