So...apparently the debate is not over.

The ice is still melting.

The ice is still melting.

#2 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

You beat me to it. I was going to say that.

Which only dilutes the drink Bob is having.

The ice on the poles it will melt
This is the end we are dealt

Nothing much we can do
Since we are all ________

Something fishier I've never smelt.

"Something fishier I've never smelt."

how bout that 6000 year old earth theory...

sounds pretty fishy AND stupid to me.

#4 | Posted by The_Chapel | Flag: No More For Chumpel, Bartender, He's A Drunk Who Thinks Everyone Else Is Drunk

"Something fishier I've never smelt."

Niceville...uh, 'scuse me, Gnubsy...no, wait a sec...oh, riiiight, Chumpel must've sworn off baking, because his muffin recipes would gag a reasonably broad minded maggot.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-12-08 07:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

You forgot to accuse him of bing gay, you master of projection!

You forgot to accuse him of bing gay, you master of projection!
#9 | Posted by vernon

Actually, for it to be projection, Vermin, you'd have to accuse him of that. Like when you go on one of your drunken rants about my drinking. Or other posters' supposed defects which are, of course, merely expressions of your own feelings of inadequacy and self-loathing. Dictionaries and exactitude really aren't your forte, are they Noodle Boy?

"30K Scientists Will Sue Algore for Global Warming Fraud
~Posted by Vermin"

Translation from Verminese:

"A weather forecaster at San Diegeo's KUSI-TV wants to sue Al Gore."

BFD

who are these 30,000 scientists?

#12 - you can find 400 of them here:

"who are these 30,000 scientists?"

Watch out, Eberly, you might provoke Vermin to drag his snout out of whatever bottle he's draining at the moment to drunkenly accuse you of being "drunk."

There are no "30,000 scientists." It's one weatherman from a t.v. station in San Diego looking for some press.

#12 - you can find 400 of them here:
epw.senate.gov
and, 17,200 signed this petition:
www.digitaljournal.com
this petition project has over 31,000 on it:
www.petitionproject.org
and this one has 70 who made presentations:
www.heartland.org
#13 | Posted by nanc

And how many, exactly, say they're going to sue Al Gore?

Well, doc - first they get a team of lawyers...

Nanc, exactly who -- how many -- agreed to be plaintiffs in this non-existent lawsuit talked up by one weatherguy at the San Diego t.v. station?

I suppose we'll find out. Or not.

this petition project has over 31,000 on it:
www.petitionproject.org

~Nanc.

Ah, the oft refered to and largely debunked Oregon Petition.

In 2001, Scientific American reported:

Scientific American took a random sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition - one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community.[22]

In a 2005 op-ed in the Hawaii Reporter, Todd Shelly wrote:

"In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?[23]

Why? Cos it's mostly bullshit that wants to look like science.

Since the time that the original covering letter by Dr Seitz and it's attendent article were published the consensus and data on AGW has only grown.

Be Well.

Nanc, exactly who -- how many -- agreed to be plaintiffs in this non-existent lawsuit talked up by one weatherguy at the San Diego t.v. station?
#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I suppose we'll find out. Or not.
#18 | Posted by nanc

So, Nanc, you agree that "30K Scientists Will Sue Algore for Global Warming Fraud" is an example of a bullshit headline, yes?

As far as headlines go, yes.

Honest answer.

Newsweek fell in line and did a cover issue warning us of global cooling on April 28, 1975. And The New York Times, Aug. 14, 1976, reported "many signs that Earth may be headed for another ice age."

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an endleading into the next ice age."

in a room of the Smithsonian. One entire wall charted the cooling of our globe over the last 60 million years. This was no straight line. The curve had two steep dips followed by leveling. There were no significant warming periods. Smithsonian scientists inscribed it across some 20 feet of plaster, with timelines.

#23 | Posted by Petrous at 2009-12-08 12:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Global warming will bring on another ice age.

BB, are you saying the science of the 70's was that faulty that none of that age's science could predict the millions of years they studied?

They charted 60 million years. I can't imagine the science was that screwed up.

The 60's science was, but not the 70's. Or, was the stuff still around then...

Obviously that Global cooling science was bad science, this global warming science is good science, even though proponents of it endorsed bad science in the past, they are now unable to do anything but good science.

The wonder and amazement of idiocy.

Gore obviously knows about the lie that is occuring, he downplays the emails saying they were discussions 10 years ago, not once, but three times.......

"The ice is still melting."

Same amount of ice as 1979 when records first started being kept!