Baby Boomers made a mess out of what was once the most productive economy in human history. Rather than atoning for our errant ways by paying our own bills, we seem determined to use Congress to squeeze every last bit of cash out of anyone we can get our hands on before we shuffle off this mortal coil.

"Rather than atoning for our errant ways by paying our own bills"

Who are you, and what have you done with RightisRight?

That was predictable. The rightwing bible thumpers hate the baby boomers. Things got out of control. They hate the liberal politics, lifestyle, music, and most of all, that they missed out on all the fun. Hahahahaha.

It is called the indoctrination of our youth.

In the schools, on TV.....

So, they deserve what they are bamboozled by.

And so do we. Unless we do something about it.

Now.

Who are you, and what have you done with RightisRight?

#2 | Posted by Danforth
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It's from the article. I'm not a boomer.

Of course, Social Security wouldn't be broke today if the Baby Boomers hadn't slaughtered 40 million of their babies.

But it would be too much to ask of the feel-good-do-it ME generation. Oh well. The Baby Boomers became the Baby Vacuumers.

"Of course, Social Security wouldn't be broke today if the Baby Boomers hadn't slaughtered 40 million of their babies. "

Using that "logic" we'd also have over 20% unemployment.

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-12-07 11:01 PM

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-12-07 11:03 PM

"It's from the article."

Well, that explains a lot. I knew RightisRight would never suggest actually paying for what we spend.

No, of course not. I'm an Obama voter.

Oops. Forgot.

Gobama!

"Rather than atoning for our errant ways by paying our own bills"

#1 | Posted by rightisright

And you did that by asking for a trillion dollar war and a trillion dollar tax cut for the rich. What a fraud.

Are you two lovers or something?

#8 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-12-07 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag

What rightwingers like RubeIsRube really hate about the baby boomers is not this red herring about economics but the fact they threw off all that creepy, segregrated, patriarchal, conformist culture of the 50s where white heterosexual males ruled and women and Negroes knew their place.

Here's what Thomas Sowell said about Social Security:

"Social Security has been a pyramid scheme from the beginning. Those who paid in first received money from those who paid in second and so on, generation after generation. This was great so long as the small generation when Social Security began was being supported by larger generations resulting from the baby boom."

"But, like all pyramid schemes, the whole thing is in big trouble once the pyramid stops growing. When the baby boomers retire, that will be the moment of truth or of more artful lies. Just like Enron."

So if Social Security is indeed a ponzi scheme (aka: pyramid scheme), then it's fair to say that currently the pyramid is currently configured with the large Baby Boomer population making up the top (receiving Social Security) and the present generation (paying into it) at the bottom, making the pyramid upside down.

And if Sowell is right, when the largest generation (baby boomers) are gone the pyramid suddenly gets turned rightside up, making the program sustainable in spite of its rigid characterization by Sowell.

Of course the trick is making Social Security sustainable until the Baby Boomers are gone. And the correct argument to be made in order for that to happen (in a steady and coherent fashion) is to raise taxes. Once the Baby Boomers are gone and the pyramid is rightside up again (the way it's supposed to be), taxes can be lowered.

What rightwingers like RubeIsRube really hate about the baby boomers is not this red herring about economics but the fact they threw off all that creepy, segregrated, patriarchal, conformist culture of the 50s where white heterosexual males ruled and women and Negroes knew their place.

30 years later and you are still pissed.

go figure.

"30 years later and you are still pissed."

Dude, I'm not the one posting articles bashing a particular generation, moron. What a partisan hack you are.

Dude, I'm not the one posting articles bashing a particular generation, moron. What a partisan hack you are.

this isn't about partisanship (other than yours).

I don't have a problem with babyboomers. In fact, I agree with the enormous contributions they have made to our country and I have less respect for my own generation (X) than I have for the baby boomers.

What is hilarious is that because of the large number of them, they can get a lot accomplished and have but, regardless, here you are, 30 years later, still an angry peasant being put down by the man. LOL

Whats more, I remember you ragging on people for having "pride" in their country or team or hometown. You asserted that is all bullshit because you don't choose much of that and you are just lucky and shouldn't have the right to be "proud".

Let me guess......you are a boomer......right?

#18 | Posted by eberly

The only ones pissed off at baby boomers are rightwingers upset at the diminishment of their former straight-white-male privilege. That's why they post threads like this.

And far as RubeisRube, well, Mr. Responsibility voted for trillions in tax cuts and a trillion dollar war.

The only ones pissed off at baby boomers are rightwingers upset at the diminishment of their former straight-white-male privilege.

I'm a gen x. I never had a "straight while male privilege".

you have me confused with someone 40 years older than me.

#18 | Posted by eberly

p.s. GenX sucks. :)

"I'm a gen x. I never had a "straight while male privilege". "

That's cool, man, but irrelevant. I was addressing the OP. I didn't accuse you of anything. So relax.

Of course the trick is making Social Security sustainable until the Baby Boomers are gone. And the correct argument to be made in order for that to happen (in a steady and coherent fashion) is to raise taxes. Once the Baby Boomers are gone and the pyramid is rightside up again (the way it's supposed to be), taxes can be lowered.

#15 | Posted by PinchALoaf
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That's one way. Or we can do what Legio suggested last week: pull the plug on them, and save all that money.

In fact, I'm sure the boomers will understand. The generation that brought us abortion on demand, and sacrificing children for career, should be able to relate perfectly. Sorry, pops.

What rightwingers like RubeIsRube really hate about the baby boomers is not this red herring about economics but the fact they threw off all that creepy, segregrated, patriarchal, conformist culture of the 50s where white heterosexual males ruled and women and Negroes knew their place.

#14 | Posted by nullifidian
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You're on to me. It was that conformist culture I want to go back to, you know, where blacks were poor and lived in ghettoes. Where gays couldn't get married, even in places like New York. And where lily-white Wall Street investment banks ran the Democratic Congresses.

Ah, what could have been. If it weren't for you darn kids!

" The generation that brought us abortion on demand, and sacrificing children for career"
...
#23 | Posted by rightisright

Translation: women should be barefoot and in the kitchen

Like I said, loss of white male privilege.

Don't like social security? Start your own country. Don't like liberals? Start your own country. Don't like abortion rights? Start your own country. Don't like affirmative action? Start your own country. Don't like welfare? Start your own country. Don't like libs on the Supreme Court? Start your own country. See a pattern here? Start your own country. Simple isn't it.

The only thing holding you back is a lack of courage. You want others to do your fighting for you.

We'll get this country back, when you die. That's when things will get better.

Like I said, loss of white male privilege.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian
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Right. Except that abortion on demand didn't do much to liberate women. But it sure did liberate men. Gotta love that part of it. Right? It's so annoying to let something like an unwanted pregnancy force you to remain in a relationship you hoped would only last a night or two. Now, just leave a check for $250 in her mailbox, and put it out of your mind.

Thanks, Boomers! Sex without consequences! Oh--and thanks for the fax machine. Still can't get over that. It means I can "work", without really working at all.

We'll get this country back, when you die. That's when things will get better.

#27 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-12-08 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

You'll never get this country back. That's what you don't understand. All the things you want--this country once was. It didn't work---that's why it changed. You'll have the streets burning agasin, just like the sixties. You are just too dim to realize it. Start your own country---no one will oppose the Southern States leaving. The key is to just not shoot anyone when the troops come and just make up your own laws.

Had the South just ignored the troops in the Civil War---welcomed them in fact--treated them cordially---and followed their own laws and Constitution, there would have been very little killing, and the South would have won. The same holds true today--fight for the country you want without shooting anyone. If you have to go to jail for failure to pay taxes, know that millions of other Southerners are supporting you and not paying taxes either, and the 50k it takes to keep you incarcerated will weaken your enemy. Soon, the US will understand, and release you, and you will be a hero to the South--and free to form the country you've always wanted. All it takes is courage and leadership. Too bad you don't have any.

"Except that abortion on demand didn't do much to liberate women."
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#28 | Posted by rightisright

Well, women can decide for themselves how liberating it was and really don't need the opinion of "oppressed" white males.

"Except that abortion on demand didn't do much to liberate women."
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#28 | Posted by rightisright

Women were having abortions long before it was legal. Abortion on demand saved millions of lives, and kept women out of prison. Pisses you off doesn't it. Know what the solution is? Guess.

;-)

Saved MILLIONS of lives!

You're funny.

And I just got through reading BB's 1:20 post. You know--you should really dole out your crazy in smaller doses.

Gotta send some faxes. You and Nulli can carry on.

You know--you should really dole out your crazy in smaller doses.

Gotta send some faxes. You and Nulli can carry on.

#33 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-12-08 01:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

The South didn't think it was so crazy in 1861. Millions of Southerners don't think it is crazy today.

My way's easier. Find where the plug is, and pull it out. Repeat 30 million times.

"My 26 year old son got the most extraordinary letter from the Social Security Administration last week. In plain English it admitted that the system was a Ponzi scheme destined for bankruptcy more than a decade before he reaches retirement age. It warned that if he is to have any hope of retiring he'd better start saving on his own. Anyone who wasn't personally hypnotized by FDR knows this to be true. Yet I was still surprised that such a frank government confession didn't make national news. "

B U L L S H I T.

My way's easier. Find where the plug is, and pull it out. Repeat 30 million times.

#35 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-12-08 02:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know--you should really dole out your crazy in smaller doses.

There only conclusion I can come to is that we Baby Boomers have infantilized our children into idiocy.
Posted by rightisright

Which tells us nothing about how you fell into that category.

Anyone born before 1964 and after WW2 are baby boomers - I highly doubt it's the entire fault of baby boomers who have worked and paid their debts to the evil SS. People who've NEVER paid into the system yet collect are the culprits - there are sometimes two to three generations in one family.

There only conclusion I can come to is that we Baby Boomers have infantilized our children into idiocy.
Posted by rightisright

Which tells us nothing about how you fell into that category.

#38 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis
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Ummm . . . that's a quote from the article, which you didn't read. Which is fine. I'm sure you're busy, with your two classes a week.

Does the phrase "There only conclusion I can come to is that we Baby Boomers have infantilized our children into idiocy" appear at the top of the page? Yes, it does.

Does "Posted by rightisright" appear below that phrase? Why, yes, it does.

Is there anything in the phrase "Which tells us nothing about how you fell into that category" to indicate an assetion on the part of its creator that "Posted by rightisright" is necessarily the author of the phrase cited above? Nope.

So how do you explain how you fell into that category?

"Ahumma-ahummma-ahummma-
ahummmmmmmmmm. Snark, burrrrrrp, yelp."
~RightisWrong

Is that you trying to sing the "Praise O-BAH-MAH" song? What is that?

How's your boy-in-chief doing today, anyway?

That's not a deflection.

No, because you say so.
Thanks for the chuckle.

I recieved that letter too, I'm 24. It basically said, don't depend on this, we don't have enough money as it is for the boomers.

Nothing I already knew. But hey, what does it matter? Maybe they'll figure out immortality before too long.

I thought a "deflection" was akin to an article being posted about Obama's profligacy, then Danni ringing in to say that Reagan started it all.

A "retort" is when a certain fully-tenured professor starts one of his usual rain dances that nobody has any idea about, then another poster asks what he's doing. But whatever. Impressionable young minds await! They're anxious to hear your take on Obamanomics, even though it's Western Civ.

"That was predictable. The rightwing bible thumpers hate the baby boomers. Things got out of control. They hate the liberal politics, lifestyle, music, and most of all, that they missed out on all the fun. Hahahahaha."

You think the people who are in charge of government and business are about those things? Ludicrous. And make no mistake, that is who were are talking about when we talk about baby boomers.

I'm not rightwing or a bible thumper and to me the boomers' short sighted selfishness is what they will be remembered for when assessing their time running things. Quite frankly, I'd think you'd have to be insane to think an intelligent arguement can be made to the contrary.

"And make no mistake, that is who were are talking about when we talk about baby boomers."

I wasn't talking to you or about you. I was talking about rtards who claim it's about economics when what they really hate is the liberal social and cultural changes brought up by the boomers. RubeisRube's comments about "abortion on demand" tell you what the real agenda here is.

Of course, Social Security wouldn't be broke today if the Baby Boomers hadn't slaughtered 40 million of their babies.

But then our crime rate would be exponentially higher.

How do you know?

Never mind--I think I know. It's because so many of the abortions have been blacks?

Well, maybe that's true. That was one of the points of Freakonomics.

It's because so many of the abortions have been blacks?

Not black necessarily, but poor, uneducated and lacking parental support/supervision.

Yeah. Because nobody can be expected to succeed under such circumstances. Especially if they're minorities.

Well, congratulations for . . . umm . . . keeping the crime rate below what it otherwise would have been. Good work!

LOL

You old fucks.

This place is like a Goldan Corral on a Sunday afternoon.

Keep on gumming at each other while I enjoy youth and virility!

You'll never get this country back.

#29 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

It would take American men acting like men again.
Most American males are sissified ass-kissers who let feminists walk all over them daily.

Baby boomers are self-indulgent narcisists.
They'd sacrifice their children's financial future for their own comfort.

Baby boomers are self-indulgent narcisists.

They'd sacrifice their children's financial future for their own comfort.

Posted by Sluggo at 2009-12-08 03:04 PM

Can't wait for the GenXers' next "Whhhaaaaaa, those big, bad baby boomers" thread to show up.

What's this, like three threads in one week?

Maybe if y'all spent more time working than blogging....

Maybe if you baby boomers spent more working than going on about the good ole days, how they don't make things like they used to, and about walking through 5 feet of snow up hill both ways to and from school...

It would take American men acting like men again.
Most American males are sissified ass-kissers who let feminists walk all over them daily.

Baby boomers are self-indulgent narcisists.
They'd sacrifice their children's financial future for their own comfort.

#56 | Posted by Sluggo at 2009-12-08 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't you he-man women haters start your own country? much easier than getting us sissified ass kissers on your side. All you lack is courage.

The article was the typical trickle down ass hole who whines about the Social Security system's long term viability but who would be one of the first to scream bloody murder if we did just like Ronald Reagan did....raise the amount of income subject to SS tax. All the pretend concern for our kids generation by those who applauded Reagan and Bush when they slashed taxes for the rich is just hypocritical dishonesty and fortunately most of the younger generation know it. Most under 30 year old folks realize their generation has been robbed by the corporate CEO class who cut taxes, outsource jobs and start wars for profit. I do agree with him on one thing, they really should be out in the street dragging the CEOs out of their office towers and....well, I'll leave that up to them.

Most under 30 year old folks realize their generation has been robbed by the corporate CEO class who cut taxes, outsource jobs and start wars for profit. I do agree with him on one thing, they really should be out in the street dragging the CEOs out of their office towers and....well, I'll leave that up to them.

#60 | Posted by danni

It's sad isn't it? I'm in my 20's, working hard, and doing my best and I have Boomers around me who dislike me for my work ethic, for my education, and the fact that they've worked all their lives to get where I just started.

Main difference is, they spent all this time, I spent all this money I didn't have.

My rent is about the same amount as my student loans, and my parents keep pressuring me to buy a home when I can barely afford what I got now. I'm comfortable and not worried, but there isn't much play.

It's easy to accept that I'll probably work for the rest of my life. I've accepted that. I just hope I'll always love what I do. I certainly enjoy my work in IT as it stands now.

"I was talking about rtards who claim it's about economics when what they really hate is the liberal social and cultural changes brought up by the boomers."

Well if they are hated for the things you mention then they are hated over a myth. As the boomers took over the reigns from the generation before them, the more everything in this country has become about money.

"As the boomers took over the reigns from the generation before them, the more everything in this country has become about money."

just google "greed is good" and it will explain much about the boomer generation. Our kids will live in the world we leave for them and we should be ashamed. I remember when tuition to California State Universities was FREE! Reagan fixed that and everything since has been based on "greed is good., Deficits don't matter."

"People who've NEVER paid into the system yet collect are the culprits - there are sometimes two to three generations in one family."

I didn't think that was possible. As far as I can tell only two generations can receive benefits at the same time (while not having paid into the system). That would require a divorce of a marriage of at least 10 years and a child along with it who both claim the other persons social security. Or a death of the payor into SS. What I was unable to tell is was it still one allocation now broken into three pieces or each allocation treated as a whole. Can you cite/expalin how the third generation would be involved?

LM

It boils down tho this, there are more boomers than youths, and those boomers do/did not want to tax themselves to the level that is/was necessary to cover SS. They have passed the buck on this one to their children and future generations, just like the national debt. It is very hard for me to hear people claim they have paid their share when they accumulated the largest debt!! Either the younger generations will have to change the taxed amount or do away with SS all together, thanks to the ineptness of earlier generations we will have to decide, time will guarantee that.

LM