The sword cuts deep for another reason. There's something smug and better-than-thou about people who purport to live perfect lives, and profit from it through power or money from that construction. No one likes someone who thinks she or he is superior. People I've talked to about the Woods case have told me they feel he deserves the criticism, that it's a kind of justice for his sin of pride and interestingly, "Celebrity Justice" is the section the Woods' stories are filed under on the TMZ gossip blog.

There's such appetite for justice right now that I doubt even Woods' "profound apology" will deflect the spotlight. Most reports suggest he'll keep his endorsements, and the acclaim he's earned from the heights he's reached in golf, but he's permanently lost the moral high ground. It was as fake as the chemically fertilized grass he plays on.

Jesus Nullli,

Do you go to some sort of training to be this pissed off at people?

Can you show us where Tiger "purported to live a perfect life"? what moral highground is he proclaiming to have?

Scrutinize him all you want. He lives on a stage, he can get tomatoes thrown at him.

BTW, that grass isn't "fake".

Celebrity Rule #1: The media will build you up and will tear you down.

Celebrity Rule #2: Don't give the media any reason to tear you down.

Celebrity Rule #3: Don't forget rule #1.

WTF do you care, Eberly? Is he a "hero" to you? Did he do some ads for the insurance industry?

"BTW, that grass isn't "fake"."

True, but it's also fertilized with shit. Which is how one should regard any pronouncement by sweatshop apologist Tiger Woods, Inc.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian

I am going to guess that your lawn looks like shit. Wait, I doubt you have a lawn in your parents basement.

What Tiger did is none of my business.

I doubt you have a lawn in your parents basement.

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#6 | Posted by chickenrancher

Oh, man. The wit!

What you think of Tiger's sponsors has nothing to do with his fidelity in marriage.

"What you think of Tiger's sponsors has nothing to do with his fidelity in marriage."

Fidelity in marriage is a non-issue, unless you're using a squeaky clean family man image to sell the products--including sweatshops--of corporate America.

It's the height of hypocrisy that an admitted and proud thief of other people's property is complaining that Tiger isn't "clean-living".

There's something smug and better-than-thou about people who purport to live perfect lives, and profit from it through power or money from that construction. -- #1 | Posted by nullifidian

Do you know how much of his branding was his doing, and how much was pro golf's?

Kinda looked to me like he single-handedly saved the sport's commercial viability, but possibly I was jaded by being force-fed too much golf-on-tv as a child.

#10 | Posted by Danforth

lol. One corporate shill defending another corporate shill.

"One corporate shill defending another corporate shill."

Versus the guy who rails against the corporations, and for the artists, but who's business model is giving the artist less than the corporations do.

Like I said...hypocrisy.

"Kinda looked to me like he single-handedly saved the sport's commercial viability,"

A huge contribution to human society, I'm sure. Saved hundreds of greens keeper jobs.

One corporate shill defending another corporate shill
#12 | Posted by nullifidian

How pathetic.... sounds like a disgruntled french fry cook to me.

#13 | Posted by Danforth

Given the thousands of words of Hollywood media-cartel propaganda you've posted in the last day or two, I hope you're getting adequately compensated, shill.

#11 | Posted by Phoenix

I do not think he "saved" the sports commercial viability. I think he enhanced it greatly, but saved it, no.

"Given the thousands of words of Hollywood media-cartel propaganda you've posted in the last day or two, I hope you're getting adequately compensated, shill."

Have you ever sent a dime to those artist you pretend to stand for, while you're ripping them off by illegally downloading their songs?

Tell us, Mr. Clean Living.

Many decades ago, Danforth's great-grandfather was a lobbyist for the buggy-whip industry, and wanted restrictions on those awful horseless carriages.

Whereas Nullifidian's grandfather was a horse thief. Null is just carrying on the proud family tradition.

Nulli,

Tiger lives a public life and he can deal with the media scrutiny. His problem...not mine.

But you skirted the question.....where did Tiger purport to live some perfect life?

Your hatred of some companies and their labor practices have nothing to do with Tiger's marital fidelity.

Leave the "holier than though" shit to assholes who actually proclaim to be better than others.

#21 | Posted by eberly

AGREED

A huge contribution to human society, I'm sure. -- #14 | Posted by nullifidian#14 | Posted by nullifidian

Lol. Yeah, I'm with you there.

Maybe people are right -- that anyone who rakes in a billion dollars as a commodity has no right to complain about how he's commodified.

And it's certainly, uh, interesting to see how differently many people react to his fall as opposed to, say, that of Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan -- neither of whom were old enough to consent to being sold.

But there's something seedy about manipulating someone's public identity for profit.

"But you skirted the question.....where did Tiger purport to live some perfect life?"

Don't play dumb, Eberly. He had a carefully cultivated squeaky-clean family-man image before this, and you know it.

Whereas Nullifidian's grandfather was a horse thief. Null is just carrying on the proud family tradition.

good thing for Nulli that we have "eased" our penalties on horse thievery.

The man has all the money and sex he wants. And he reportedly well endowed. Nulli is insanely jealous.

Maybe people are right -- that anyone who rakes in a billion dollars as a commodity has no right to complain about how he's commodified. "

Exactly. And if the product gets bad press, well, that's the beauty of the free market. We can give our allegiance to another sports "hero".

"#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-12-07 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag: "

This thread is about Tiger Woods. Take your shilling for Hollywood elsewhere, hack.

He had a carefully cultivated squeaky-clean family-man image before this, and you know it.

another view would be that he was the world's greatest golfer taking the game to new heights who wasn't a drug addict, wife beater or a thug. He isn't perfect and I am still waiting for you to show me where he claimed to be.

Your only problem is that he accepted the millions of dollars from sponsors and that they sponsors aren't going to pull the plug on him which you so desparately desire (for whatever reason).

Just stick to hating corporations.

His endorsement empire was built on him being a once in a century talent from a very young age. The image that Tiger and his father cultivated for him was golf phenom. It was his handlers that transitioned him to this "family man" image.

Furthermore, has the author of this article ever seen Tiger around the media, ever? You can't get a straight answer out of the guy regarding his putt on #13 or how his surgically repaired knee feels, let alone his family life.

This article is nonsense.

If Tiger starts playing lousy golf--he will lose sponsors.

That is the only measure the sponsors have on Tiger.

"world's greatest golfer taking the game to new heights"

lol. Did you hear about the amazing streak of the current world dart board champion?

"Nulli [...]you skirted the question.

He always skirts direct questions he can't answer. All he has is ad hominem.

Holly Sampson PICTURES: Photos Of Porn Star, Tiger Woods' Alleged Mistress (NSFW, VIDEO)

Did you hear about the amazing streak of the current world dart board champion?

No. But I'm sure that if the squeaky clean mother fucker cheats on his wife you'll let us know.

LOL

lol. Did you hear about the amazing streak of the current world dart board champion?

Seriously?

Tiger has single handedly TRIPLED the golf purses on the PGA Tour.

Tiger has brought more people to golf (especially minorities) than anyone has brought to any sport...ever.

Tiger is at least a 30 percent ratings boost to any event he is a part.

Sorry Nulfy, you're simply out of your area of self-perceived expertise.

"This thread is about Tiger Woods. Take your shilling for Hollywood elsewhere, hack."

Who's shilling for Hollywood? All I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of a thief slamming someone for not living a squeaky clean life.

Nice pictures Nulli.

My opinion of the Huffington Post just went up.

All he has is ad hominem.

#33 | Posted by Danforth

Great. Now you can go to your next Hollywood cocktail party and tell all those studio execs how you stick up for them on the Drudge Retort. Hoorah!

"Now you can go to your next Hollywood cocktail party and tell all those studio execs how you stick up for them on the Drudge Retort."

It's the artists I stick up for. You know, the ones you proudly rip off while pretending to support. The ones who you complain about only getting 15% in accordance with the contract they voluntarily signed, instead of the 0% you send them.

Tiger has single handedly TRIPLED the golf purses on the PGA Tour.

Tiger has brought more people to golf (especially minorities) than anyone has brought to any sport...ever.

Tiger is at least a 30 percent ratings boost to any event he is a part.

Sorry Nulfy, you're simply out of your area of self-perceived expertise.

#36 | Posted by IraqiBukkake

I am not usre about the 30% idea, all sports salaries have risen, but it is possible.

As to the rest, I would have to agree.

The ones who you complain about only getting 15% in accordance with the contract they voluntarily signed, instead of the 0% you send them.

#40 | Posted by Danforth

Hey Danforth, when you artists/spokesmen come up with an arrangement that guarantees the consumer's dollar goes into the artist's pocket, get back to me.

Until then, you're just a shill, co-conspiring with the media cartel for a few crumbs off the table.

I am not usre about the 30% idea, all sports salaries have risen, but it is possible.

he is referring to the events he plays in versus the events he doesn't.

"when you artists/spokesmen come up with an arrangement that guarantees the consumer's dollar goes into the artist's pocket, get back to me."

I already did. I asked you if you ever sent any money directly to the artists you were ripping off while pretending to support, and you admitted you never sent them a dime.

It seems the only thing you're willing to pay is lip service.

Steve Dennis, the PGA Tour's senior director of communications, recently told the L.A. Times that when Woods plays in the bigger tournaments and finishes in the top five, Sunday afternoon television ratings average 4.3. Without him, ratings fall 26% to 3.4.

"you're just a shill, co-conspiring with the media cartel for a few crumbs off the table."

The artists voluntarily signed the contract. Some negotiate for higher percentages. Who are you to tell them to do otherwise? You believe you should be able to dictate what they do...or at least you pretend to; your viewpoint is worth about as much as your contribution. If you really cared, you'd be sending money to the artists; instead, you hide behind the "nasty corporation" meme while ripping off the creators worse than any corporation ever did.

"It seems the only thing you're willing to pay is lip service."

I've given thousands of dollars to artists in ticket purchases, lp purchases, tape cassette purchases, cd purchases, etc.

So fuck off, corporate hack.

Nulli hates anybody with more money than him. Which is over 90% of the American population.

"I've given thousands of dollars to artists in ticket purchases, lp purchases, tape cassette purchases, cd purchases, etc"

And then you went home and ripped them off. And admit it: you only purchased those tickets, LPs, CDs, & tapes because you knew if you stole them you'd have to face the consequences.

Oh, and don't get me started on what percentage of those buys went to the artist. So back then, you didn't care how much went to the artist. Now, you only pretend, since your business model pays them nothing. How does the world look behind that skirt?

"Who are you to tell them to do otherwise? "

They can do any fucking thing they want. But I'm not going to fork over a dollar to some corporate bitch so the original artist can get 5 cents! That's reality. And if artists want to get compensated they are going to have to adapt to the new reality. They certainly aren't helped by status-quo, reactionary corporate bitches, like Danforth, that fight every technology that threatens corporate control and empowers consumers.

"But I'm not going to fork over a dollar to some corporate bitch so the original artist can get 5 cents! That's reality."

No, it's not, idiot-thief.

"if artists want to get compensated they are going to have to adapt to the new reality."

Yeah. The "new reality" that you're ripping them off at every opportunity. And your pretense for caring for them is total bullshit. Again...when was the last time you sent money directly to the artist?

"technology that threatens corporate control and empowers consumers."

But you're not a "consumer", your a thief. You want the artists to embrace the fact you're stealing from them.

Go ahead, dumforth, live in fantasy land. The gig is up. You corporatists have lost control.

And yet, these dumb, greedy, reactionary fucks will probably unwittingly profit anyway, like the way they did with the VCR, the "agent of the devil", which grossed billions for Hollywood in tape rentals and sales.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-12-07 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Gets paid by the word

"live in fantasy land."

Posts the guy who used to pretend he cared for the artist. Now we know that's bullshit.

"You corporatists have lost control."

I give less than a fuck about the corporations. I'm defending the artists, who would rather get a percentage of a sale than NOTHING, which is what your business model offers. Again, bypass the corporation if you want and send the cash directly to the artists. But you're not going to do that, are you? That might actually take some balls.

"Gets paid by the word"

Really? I've never received a cent. You must be the guy in charge of paying me.

Back on topic,

Nulli, I think you are reading into the advertising and image. I have never seen an image of him and his family together, much less an advertisement.

Even after this much ado about none of our business, I have yet to see an image of him, his children, and wife together.

Perhaps those that see him as a black man wanted to believe he was more than he was, this cultivated the image. But I have never seen him promote it. Also perhaps golfs tame image also influenced your belief system.

I think your posting of this thread, shows the confirmational bias that exists. Because there were reports that Tiger was a jerk. But those people were called racists.... imagine...

I wish he would lose all his endorsements except those exclusively about golf stuff. Then he would have to concentrate only on his game. Nike should spread the money around more anyway and give us some more different other people.

"I think your posting of this thread, shows the confirmational bias that exists."

Yeah, I have a bias, against hypocritical corporate whores.

>Nike should spread the money around more anyway and give us some more different other people.

Here's a suggestion. Stop buying Nike. Then you won't have some made-up sports hero to be jealous over when they don;t live up to your made-up convictions.

"a holier-than-though public image based on lies"

Seriously?!?!

Tiger Woods is hardly a puritanical Christian, never claimed to be.

He has good taste in women. You notice there all white. Dont think Tiger is attracted to Black Beauties. Is he racist too???

How many extra holes did tiger play?

From now on he will be brutalized by the galleries. What will "it's in the hole" mean now????

I've never seen Woods talk about his personal life - ever.

He is famously private about his family life. Whatever image we have of him was created in our minds and by the media to begin with. He is to blame for any infidelity. But, to say that Woods cultivated the image I don't think is fair. I guess he could've come out before this and said "I'm Tiger Woods, and I like to bang hot ladies out of wedlock" - but I'm not sure that's realistic.

I've never seen Woods talk about his personal life - ever.

He is famously private about his family life. Whatever image we have of him was created in our minds and by the media to begin with. He is to blame for any infidelity. But, to say that Woods cultivated the image I don't think is fair. I guess he could've come out before this and said "I'm Tiger Woods, and I like to bang hot ladies out of wedlock" - but I'm not sure that's realistic.

#63 | Posted by somoco at 2009-12-09 12:48 PM

that endorsement empire is built on the image of a hardworking, clean-living family man with wife, kids, dogs, and "values"

I have never seen a Tiger Woods endorsement that projected him to be someone holier than anyone else. My impression was always that he is the best golfer in the world, so he is getting paid to pretend like he drives a Buick. I don't think I ever saw his wife, kids, dogs, or alleged "values" put on display in any of his endorsements. Sounds like the author is just making shit up so he has a reason to be angry.

Interesting thread Nulli. But I think the bottom line here is that one of the coolest (as in Iceman cool) and greatest alpha males walking this planet succumbed to his purient urges while married to a smokin hot gal. Who are you or I to judge without walking in his shoes? He probably married too young and gave into temptations.

But I will say this-the porno actress looks like she has been rode hard and put away wet one time too many. I hope he used a condom.