Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Sunday, November 22, 2009

China claims some 90,000 square kilometers of Indian territory. And most of those claims are tangled up with Tibet. Large swaths of India's northern mountains were once part of Tibet. Other stretches belonged to semi-independent kingdoms that paid fealty to Lhasa. Because Beijing now claims Tibet as part of China, it has by extension sought to claim parts of India that it sees as historically Tibetan, a claim that has become increasingly flammable in recent months.

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China scares me too...

All those people.
If they ever once all line up-and fart in the same direction-at the same time-they'll strip the atmosphere off the planet....

A month ago, Chinese choppers came into India and spray pained "China was here" around one of the Indian army bases (Indian army was too scared to come out and engage).

They also airdropped a ton of expired/spoiled canned food. (WTF?)

Some kind of Chinese sense of humor.

Indian sense of humor


Pakistan just got their new Chineses fighter planes and sent a squadron of pilots there for training.
"Ok, this one is easy to fly", said the Chinese trainer, "Even you fools should be able to operate it! You press this button

to go up, this one to go left and this one for turning right!"
"But how do we come down?" asked Capt. Arfath Pasha.
"Oh," said the Chinese "leave that to the Indian Air Force!"

The first of our own new fighter planes rolled off the assembly lines last Monday.

Joint-Fighter-17 "Thunder", is made by both Pak and China.

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

India doesn't make any plane to match it's BVR (Beyond Visual Range) capability that will kill anything in a radius of a 100 miles.

I was just teasing,Tosser

I was just teasing,Tosser


I know.

My point was, India can't do shit to Pakistan (even though they make much noise).... what the hell do they imagine they can do against China?

China comes and goes into India as and when it pleases, dropping spoiled cans of food all over the place.

All the Indians can do is watch.

BTW, has anyone tried "Mai Ling" canned foods? Very popular Chinese brand.

I love their mushrooms.

US' supercop role for China gets India's goat

NEW DELHI: India on Wednesday said that it was not comfortable with a policing role for China in South Asia. A day after US President Barack Obama encouraged China to play a more stronger international role and asked it to work with the US for bringing stability in Indo-Pak relations, New Delhi said that it will not countenance any move that will provide Beijing a wider footprint in the region.

In a statement, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said that it was against the US giving China a greater role in South Asian affairs.

But strategic experts think the US-China joint statement was indicative of an increasing convergence of interests between the US and China.

"The interests of US and China have converged. There is a new cooperation between the US and China on Pakistan and Afghanistan. They encourage China to be the cop," said strategic affairs expert Brahma Chellaney. He further maintained that India came very low in the Obama administration's list of priority. "He doesn't have India in his policy. India is only marginally present."

Even in the US, there has been strong criticism of Mr Obama's visit to China. Critics have pointed out that Mr Obama bent over backwards to please Beijing on every count from currency to climate change.

So Obama has sold India in the bazaar for cheap. LOL

There is a new cooperation between the US and China on Pakistan and Afghanistan. They encourage China to be the cop,"

Why certainly,and the chinese love it.
They have a muslim population that they feel needs crushing.Cop isn't necessarily a good thing.

Meanwhile,CIA drones visit Pakistan regularly.Obama policy.So what if he doesn't mention India.

Meanwhile,CIA drones visit Pakistan regularly.


Under Pakistan's full control.

We do the mission tasking not the US.... LOL

Pakistan wanted American Predator technology.

Now we have full access and the extended loiter-time engine tech will be incorporated into the Pak UQAB drones. LOL

Meanwhile,CIA drones visit Pakistan regularly

We can't control the CIA,you think you do,hehe

One thing you ought to know about your "Dems"... they may appear to make themselves important and they may appear to be American super patriots.... however they are the first to sell American technology to China (Clinton and cryogenic rocket engines) and now to Pakistan. hahahahahahahahahaha

This is the Age of the Messiah! No joke!

OK

news.yahoo.com

We can't control the CIA,you think you do


You think I'm lying?

OK...

the Pakistanis like to have control of the hunt. Any spying was done by local Pashtuns, and under the watchful eye of the Pakistani authorities.

"Our role in the hunt was done entirely from in front of a computer inside the base," Mr Keller says. When he wanted to follow up a lead, he would get in touch with a local Pashtun proxy to ask him to travel to a certain area to glean information.

As you can see, the CIA can't even take a shit without our permission. LOL

When a senior al-Qaeda figure was identified and located Mr Keller said that it would take weeks, often months, to build a case for an airstrike by a US Predator drone and even if the go-ahead was finally given by CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, the Pakistanis still had to approve. "Since 9/11, with 99 per cent of these strikes, the Pakistanis were consulted and they have to approve them," he said.

We can't control the CIA,you think you do,hehe


So.

You were saying?

hahahahahahahahahahaha

#17,#18

bold letters are cool,but who are you quoting

,but who are you quoting

www.timesonline.co.uk

Art Keller, a blond, blue-eyed CIA agent, sits inside a decrepit building deep inside al-Qaeda territory, staring at his computer screen. He is forbidden by his Pakistani minders from venturing out into the badlands of Waziristan to help to find and kill the world's most wanted man.

He is sick and exhausted, and suffering from food poisoning. Back home in the US his father is dying of cancer. The plumbing is basic, the heat intense the generator has failed again. He pores over cables looking for any scrap of information an intercepted phone call, an aerial photograph that might finally end the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

The fruitless search has essentially been outsourced by the US to a network of Pashtun spies run by the Pakistani intelligence services.

Fair enough

BTW,Mug works for Mr. Keller,lol

China can destroy Indian capital using rocket artillery alone! LOL

A new type rocket artillery had been depolyed among China-India border.
This rocket artillery developed based on Chinese long range rocket artillery WS-2.
And the new type number is WS-2D.It has a amazing range of 400KM Max.
That means if it fired in Chinese border,most of North India cities are covered by its power,the capital of New dehli included.
Compare with traditional tactical missile,the rocket artillery has low costs in economic and high efficiency in firepower.
Although the precision is just 600M,it can be used for assault the cities,military center and some other area targets.
Terminal guidance:GPS.

image.cqvip.com

image.cqvip.com

image.cqvip.com

image.cqvip.com

tianjin.wsxq.com

BTW,Mug works for Mr. Keller,lol


I asked him.

He gave no sign of recognizing the name. Total poker face.

He gave no sign of recognizing the name. Total poker face.

His training has paid off.My cat probably works for you guys,she's been acting suspicious lately

A confidential defence document accessed by PTI shows that Chinese helicopters entered into the Indian air space along the Damchok area and Trig Heights in Ladakh and air-dropped canned food containing frozen pork and brinjal, which had passed the expiry date.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Brinjal?How was your eggplant today?

The Indian border has again been compromised by the Chinese. They have shown to have done incursions crossing beyond their limit at the Line of Actual Control. This has been noticed at the north and east of India.

chinese-copters-violate-
indian-airspace

Brig (retd) Arun Sehgal says, "It appears that New Delhi has decided to not push the issue militarily though we have the capability."

Two Chinese helicopters have violated Indian Air space near Jammu & Kashmir. This lead defense to rush Cheetah and Chetak helicopters to the area after getting reports from the residents. The Chinese helicopters dropped canned food items at Chumar the Himalayan town on 21st July 09.

There seems to have differences in perception by Indian govt. as well as the Chinese govt. and even maps have not yet been exchanged.

Even the Chinese patrols not only encroached Indian border 26 times but also took away petrol and kerosene, which was meant for Indian Army.

Brig Sehgal says "If they can show that they have marked their presence in these areas, that would enhance their claim". This in bare terms means, those areas which have not been negotiated are vulnerable to Chinese patrolling, which would further assert their claim in those areas.

Brinjal?How was your eggplant today?

Excellent!

So the Chinese came into India and stole the Indians' fuel supplies. hahahahahahahahaha

Two Chinese helicopters have reportedly violated the Indian air space in recent months in the Leh area of Jammu and Kashmir during which they air-dropped some canned food in barren land at Chumar, northeast of this Himalayan town, along the border.

The MI series helicopters were reported to the nearby defence post by residents in this high altitude area living along Pangong lake, located in the lap of majestic hills, prompting the Army Aviation Corps to rush its Cheetah and Chetak helicopters.

However, they could only find tell-tale signs left by the helicopters, which hovered over the Indian territory for nearly five minutes dropping the food material on June 21, this year, sources said.

When contacted, Army spokesperson for the Udhampur-based Northern Command said: "There was a report of a helicopter flying in the area south of Chumar, where India and China have differences in perception on the Line of Actual Control (LAC). It was reported by grazers."

A confidential defence document accessed by PTI shows that Chinese helicopters entered into the Indian air space along the Damchok area and Trig Heights in Ladakh and air-dropped canned food containing frozen pork and brinjal, which had passed the expiry date.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army has been crossing over into the Indian side in this region quite frequently with the maximum number of incursions reported in August.
Trig Heights, also known as Trade Junction, which connected Ladakh with Tibet in earlier days, is an area where Chinese patrols have frequented this year in June, July and August.

Twenty-six sorties
The Chinese army patrols have made 26 sorties in June, including two incursions by helicopters, and 21 in July. Chinese patrols entered the Indian Territory 26 times this month and walked away with petrol and kerosene meant for jawans of the border guarding forces. The Chinese army had made 223 attempts last year and left tell-tale signs.

The Army spokesperson, however, tried to downplay incursion attempts, saying "there are a few areas along the border where India and China have different perceptions of the LAC. Both sides patrol up to their respective perceptions of LAC."

He added: "Due to perceived differences in the alignment of LAC, the Chinese patrol does transgress beyond our perception of LAC in a few areas. The pattern of transgression has remained similar over a long period of time."

Incursions have taken place in eastern Ladakh and on the northern bank of Pangong Tso Lake, located 168 km from here. The Chinese patrols come frequently on the north and south of this lake, whose 45 km are on the Indian side, while another 90 km on the Chinese side.

LAC talks
India and China have been engaged in talks over the Line of Actual Control and had exchanged maps in 2002. In the western sector (East Jammu and Kashmir), the Samar Lungpa area, between the Karakoram Pass and the Chipchap river, is contentious, with Chinese maps showing the LAC to be south of the Samar Lungpa.

This is the northernmost part of the border, far to the north of Leh. But while the Indo-Tibetan Border Police operates north of the line the Chinese claim to be the border, they remain south of the Lungpa. South of the Chipchap River are the Trig Heights, comprising points 5495 and 5459.

The Chinese troops frequently enter the area and, in fact, they have a name for Point 5459Manshen Hill. The area, southeast of the Trig Heights, called Depsang Ridge, is also contentious. Differences were found when Chinese small-scale maps were interposed on large-scaled Indian ones.

And there wasn't shit India could do about it.

All fine and good Tosser,but I wouldn't coddle up to close with the Han,Pakistan is not immune.
I had fun,got to go to bed, see you later

but I wouldn't coddle up to close with the Han


Why not?

They are cousins. Many of us are related ethnically.

China is the mother-country.

Many of us are related ethnically,you say the same of the afghan Pashtuns,yet you seem to hate them.Hey but we're all brothers right.

you say the same of the afghan Pashtuns

Yes. I am part Afghan.


yet you seem to hate them


Because Afghans are anti-Pak scum.

"Since 9/11, with 99 per cent of these strikes, the Pakistanis were consulted and they have to approve them," he said. -- #18 | Posted by Tosser

Tosser, do you know anything about the 1% that did not get Paki approval? (I'm curious about the circumstances under which the U.S. is willing to violate international law.)

population problem solved.. china v india in a smack down.

at least 2 billion vaporized.

India doesn't make any plane to match it's BVR (Beyond Visual Range) capability that will kill anything in a radius of a 100 miles.

#4 | POSTED BY TOSSER

it doesn't have to dumb fuck..

www.eurofighter.com

and denigrating their capabilities is hubris..

the bomb has made everyone equal.

The Chinese military likes to posture and threat when dealing with foreigners. But the Chinese military really exists to be used against the Chinese people.

The Americans are trying to get the Chinese Army into Afghanistan. Just wait and see. They need someone to take the burden off the US. Since no other country is willing to put additional troops in Afghanistan, Obama facing domestic pressure at home to bring home troops, he needs help. He is so desperate he is turning to the Chinese - hence the new supercop status. Its a joke.

The Indian Army is also decades away from being a full strength. But they better hurry up. If Pakistan falls into a full blown civil war, lots of crap is going to cross into the Indian border. Which can only mean trouble. China - on the other hand - wants instability in the region. Keeps India distracted while the Chinese continue to buy all of South Asia's natural resources. That is also why the Indians are scared, China has more influence with India's neighbors than does India.

it doesn't have to dumb fuck..

www.eurofighter.com

and denigrating their capabilities is hubris..


India doesn't have the Eurofighter... dumbfuck. LOL

The best they got, is the SU-30-MKI. And that is in the hanger most of the time, getting repaired for micro-stress-fractures in their main turbines. LOL

Tosser, do you know anything about the 1% that did not get Paki approval? (I'm curious about the circumstances under which the U.S. is willing to violate international law.)


You can already guess the answer, luv.

It was during the Age of The Chimp.... before the Age of The Messiah.

If Pakistan falls into a full blown civil war, lots of crap is going to cross into the Indian border.


My dear Hindoo.... you keep insisting that Pakistan is in a "civil war" or is going to be in one.

Don't hold your breath.

Worry about your own India and their Maoist rebellion which has put one-third of India out of Govt. control!

news.bbc.co.uk

Believe me, China can and will exploit the situation and tear your Bha-rat (India) from the inside out. LOL

Tosser - suicide bombings occur everyday in Pakistan. The Taliban has declared war against the ISI. American special forces are guarding the Chinese nukes in Pakistan. Doesnt sound like a very stable situation .... As far as I can see in press reports, I dont see American troops with boots down in India nor have I read that they are guarding Indian nukes.

A civil war: Obama's gift to Pakistan

aljazeera.com

A civil war is brewing in Pakistan. Thanks to President Barack Obama, who is shifting the American war from Iraq to "the real enemies" operating from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Cash-strapped Pakistan could not defy Obama persuasion and decided to wage a war against its own people, the Pashtuns inhabiting the Northern Province and the tribal areas of Waziristan. Decades ago, Pakistan waged a similar war against its own people, the Bengalis in East Pakistan. In 1971, the Pakistani military charged to wipe out Mukti Bahini, a Bengali resistance force, paved the way for the nation's dismemberment. In 2009, the military is charged to eliminate the Taliban, a Pashtun resistance force. History is repeating itself in Pakistanas it frequently does for nations that do not learn from past mistakes.

American special forces are guarding the Chinese nukes in Pakistan.


hahahahahahahahaha

Good one!


I dont see American troops with boots down in India nor have I read that they are guarding Indian nukes.


And where and when did this happen in Pakistan?

Did it come to you in a dream?

Hindoo... you have far greater problems than imaginary Americans and your nukes (which don't work according to your chief scientist).

I can see the Chinese are not impressed with you lot at all.

Which is why they come and take your fuel when they like leaving rotten food in return. LOL

And keep your Al-Jizz to yourself. They are not a credible source of info.

If they had been, I would've linked to them all the time... which I never do.

If only all countries were as stable as Pakistan.

www.bloomberg.com

Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Taliban fleeing a Pakistani offensive are regrouping in the country's northwest, threatening to spread and prolong a conflict that has strained the nation's economy and may hamper efforts to attract foreign investment.

While Pakistan says its month-old offensive in South Waziristan has destroyed the largest Taliban sanctuary, some militants are falling back to Orakzai, a mountain region less than 16 kilometers (10 miles) south of Peshawar, the capital of North West Frontier Province, said Talat Masood, an independent military analyst in Islamabad.

Rising violence in the region last year prompted London- based Tullow Oil Plc to give up operational control of drilling operations near Orakzai. A wider conflict may make it harder to attract companies like Mol Nyrt., Hungary's largest oil refiner, which this month started natural gas production in the province.

"Naturally, this violence is not good for the investment climate, but the government's decision this year to tackle the Taliban is a good one for the long term," said Habib-ur-Rehman, who manages $48 million of stocks and bonds at Karachi-based Atlas Asset Management Ltd.

Peshawar, Pakistan's eighth-largest city, suffered 11 major terrorist attacks this year, including a Nov. 19 suicide bombing at the main courthouse that killed 18 people. The city has a U.S. consulate and straddles the truck route for supplies from the port of Karachi to U.S. troops in landlocked Afghanistan.

www.bloomberg.com

Mountainous Trails

South of Peshawar, guerrillas are escaping over trails that snake through the mountains, military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said in a Nov. 13 interview. While "sealing off the footpaths is not realistic," the army is "preventing the militants from moving vehicles or heavy weapons," he said.

Some escaped militants will abandon the Taliban movement and others will continue, making Orakzai the army's possible next target, Abbas said. Pakistani paramilitary troops fought Taliban in Orakzai yesterday, destroying an FM radio station of the guerrillas, Akhlaq Khan, a spokesman for Orakzai's political agent, said by telephone.

Yesterday's clash continued an escalation of violence in Orakzai, where air force jets have bombed suspected Taliban strongholds this month, killing scores of people, Pakistani news media have reported.

Anemic' Economy

The fighting is hurting what the International Monetary Fund has called an "anemic" economy. Foreign aid and loans financed 40 percent of Pakistan's $10 billion current account deficit in the year ended June 30, said Asad Farid, an economist at AKD Securities in Karachi. This year such assistance will entirely cover a deficit of $6 billion, he said.

The war against the Taliban has been costing the government $8.5 billion a year, Finance Minister Shaukat Tarin said July 15. This year's figure is higher, Tarin told reporters Nov. 16, declining to give details.

Successes in South Waziristan, where the army has captured militant strongholds and main roads, may revive an argument with the Obama administration over which Taliban factions Pakistan's forces should strike next. U.S. National Security Adviser James Jones has renewed pressure for Pakistan to hit the groups that attack U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, the New York Times reported Nov. 15, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

Pakistani Response

"The Pakistani response to any new U.S. demand will be the same as before: that they have no resources to open a new front," said Shuja Nawaz, director of the South Asia Center of the Atlantic Council in Washington.

The army's current offensive targets a Taliban faction in South Waziristan that opposes Pakistan's government, which blames it for 80 percent of Islamic attacks in the country. While Taliban groups that fight in Afghanistan are based nearby in North Waziristan, Abbas said the army has no plans to expand its assault there.

"Cost and security reasons" led oil developer Tullow to hand over control of a drilling project at Kohat, near Orakzai, to its local partner, spokesman George Cazenove said in an e- mail. "Because they are no longer the operator, the number of Tullow employees in Pakistan has been reduced significantly," although Tullow retains a 40 percent stake in the project, Cazenove said.

Budapest-based Mol, Hungary's largest oil refiner, began production at its Manzalai field last week after an initial investment of $500 million. Initial output of 250 million cubic feet of gas a day will be increased 40 percent to 350 million cubic feet by 2013, Mol Chief Executive Officer Gyorgy Mosonyi told a press conference in Islamabad on Nov. 11.

Stocks Fall

"We are reducing risk to the possible minimum," the company said in a statement in response to questions about security. "Operations at both the office in Islamabad and at the countryside facilities are continuous and uninterrupted."

The Karachi Stock Exchange 100 Index fell 2.1 percent last month, the most since January, as bombings and assaults in major cities eroded confidence.

The South Waziristan campaign will improve Pakistan's security because it has disrupted the country's largest Taliban sanctuary, said Mahmood Shah, an analyst who once served as security chief for the border zone.

"We should see a reduction in the attacks within as little as two weeks," Shah said.

On Oct. 17, the army sent 28,000 troops into the lands of the ethnic Pashtun Mehsud tribe, which has about 5,000 to 8,000 Taliban fighters, Abbas said. The battlefield is a forested, mountainous zone of 2,200 square kilometers, about half the size of the U.S. state of Rhode Island.

To contact the reporter on this story: James Rupert in Islamabad at jrupert3@bloomberg.net.

Bumbaiya - welcome back! You havent posted in a couple of days. Were you locked up in a Pakistani jail stitching soccer balls and making roadside bombs? Nonetheless, you are back, and that is all that matters. I can rest now knowing that there is someone else to take on Tosser.

Hahahahahahahahahaha...

One more Indian!

You folks really breed like rats don't you?

Listen, Hindoo.... rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated.

Now take yourself and this new clown.... I don't know what else to call him.... and do something to protect your home and family against the Chinese. LOL

However, seeing they can come in and shit on your army base, with you guys hiding it out until they went back, I don't see much hope for you lot. LOL

Bumbaiya - use the following in your lyrical war against Tosser -- and dont forget --- you dont have to spell like you earned your degree from a top Pakistani university.

Pakistan Bombing Raises the Specter of a Civil War

www.theatlanticwire.com

A powerful car bomb killed 80 in the Pakistani city of Peshawar today, just hours after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in the capital, Islamabad, less than 100 miles away. Islamabad is considered less dangerous than Peshawar, which lies closer to the lawless region bordering Afghanistan. With a population of nearly three million, Peshawar could be a bellwether of the troubled nation's future as battles between official forces and the Taliban escalates. As Pakistan's military continues its assault on Taliban forces in the Western tribal areas, was today's bombing an inevitable instance of retaliation? Or is it a sign that fighting could spill into the rest of the country, launching a full-blown civil war?

Hahahahahahah!!! Please dont say its so - Pakistan is going to take help from Sri Lanka in fighting terrorism? Hahahahahahaha!!! Im trying to remember when a nuclear power needed Sri Lanka's help for anything ... but then again - its Pakistan. I feel like I should whistling the Andy Griffin theme song when reading this article.

www.thenews.com.pk

Sri Lanka offers help to Pakistan in terror fight
Monday, November 23, 2009
By Salman Siddiqui

COLOMBO: Sri Lankan Prime Minister Ratnasiri Wickramanayake has offered help, assistance and expertise to Pakistan for eliminating terrorism.

He was speaking here at the inaugural session of the Third Saarc Business Leaders Conclave under the theme "Regional Cooperation: A Catalyst for Socioeconomic Growth in South Asia" on Sunday. The two-day meeting is being organised by Saarc Chambers of Commerce & Industry (Saarc CCI) in collaboration with the Federation of Chambers of Commerce & Industry Sri Lanka (FCCISL).

When asked to suggest a strategy or the way out to get rid of terrorism in Pakistan in the light of its own experience of ending the two-decade-long civil war in Sri Lanka, Wickramanayake abruptly said this was Pakistan's internal matter and he would recommend nothing to its friend Pakistan in this particular regard. He, however, offered his country's full support to Pakistan in dismantling the terrorists' network.

A powerful car bomb killed 80 in the Pakistani city of Peshawar today


Got anything new? This particular incident is old news.

As the taliban start getting wrapped up, such incidents, which are now only confined to Peshawar (full of Afghans) will trickle down to nothing.

The war against the Indian-funded TTP is going as planned. The Indians agents are dying and running off to Afghanistan, with the Indian Prime Minister begging Obama to intervene (today's news).

However, as we have seen, Obama is too into China to do anything for India. hahahahahahahahahaha

Pakistan is going to take help from Sri Lanka in fighting terrorism?


Thanks to Sri Lanka buying Pakistani weaponry, they defeated the Indian funded Tamil Tigers in the bitch-slapping of the century.

The news you quote is again, old news. We do know there was some information exchanged on India... but that was all.

And why are you making fun of Sri Lanka? They gave the Indian Tamils the thrashing of their lives.

If they can defeat India, they must have picked up a few good tricks, no? LOL

Point is, if Sri Lanka can thrash India and it's Tamils, then what chance has India got against Pakistan?

What chance does India have against China??? LOL

Are you going to look to the US to save you? hahahahahahahahaha

Tosser - I cannot understand why Obama suggested that China police the region. I am sure that Holbrooke and others warned him about Indian oversensitivity. South Asia watchers know that India is not capable of policing the region. But to call India out - that was tough. It appears that India is finally going to get its nuclear fuel - so maybe that will pacify them.

Btw - did you know Headley?

And congrats on moving up the corruption index. I assume that some of your people fired their guns in the air to celebrate.

Corruption in Pakistan increases: Transparency International

* Pakistan climbs 5 places to become 42nd most corrupt country in 2009 * Watchdog says positive effects of good governance measures to show by
next year

Staff Report

LAHORE: Pakistan has climbed five places to number 42 in an annual list of the world's most corrupt countries, Transparency International said in a report on Tuesday.

In its annual Corruption Perceptions Index, the TI said Pakistan's 2009 Corruption Perceptions Index Score is 2.4, and of the 180 countries and in its ranking as the most corrupt country, it has slipped five ranks, from 47 in 2008 to the 42nd most corrupt country in 2009.

The Corruption Perceptions Index looks at perceptions of public sector corruption in 180 countries and territories, - and is a composite index that draws on 13 expert opinion surveys.

It scores countries on a scale from zero to ten, with zero indicating high levels of perceived corruption and ten indicating low levels of perceived corruption.

Majority of the 180 countries included in the 2009 index score below five on a scale from 0 (perceived to be highly corrupt) to 10 (perceived to have low levels of corruption).

Tosser - I dont think the Indians would ever ask the US for military help. And to be honest, I dont think the Indians want to invade Pakistan. What would they get out of it - tasty kebobs and lots of dirt.

you also bastard? you may be indian but tosser is right about everything.

Hahahahahahaha!

Look, two Indian dogs fighting! LOL


And to be honest, I dont think the Indians want to invade Pakistan. What would they get out of it - tasty kebobs and lots of dirt.


Hindoo... whatever shit we give you to eat, has GOT TO BE better than the rotten food the Chinese left on your doorstep. LOL

Tosser - I mean Bumbaiya - India needs to help itself if it wants to be the dominate power that it inspires to be. With a huge population living in poverty, and taxes on the rise, and food prices creeping up, India cannot help its people on US money. Only Pakistan and Afghanistan have the privilege of sucking US money into the region. But keep posting and continue to work on your English.

Tosser - how fast does your child servant have to peddle so that you can operate your two Commodores 64? Is Bumbaiya your imaginary friend? Are you nervous about bringing him/her/it into the public?

Are you saying I am a filthy Indian called "Bumbaiya"???

Just because a real Indian (who is an older member than you) thinks you are full of shit, you turn around and accuse him of being me? hahahahahahahahahahaha

Indians and their logic. LOL

Listen dumroo....there are no secrets in this world. Not any more. We all know you won't be able to do shit if China slaps you on the face... which they did.

you pig bastard DCSTRESSFREE. why you say me like tosser bastard?

yes what he say is true. that why you say i am tosser?

i am no paki you pig.


HAhahahahahahahha.... Go get 'im boy!

Woof woof!

LOL... this is too good.

Man o man.... I got tears running down me face.... LOL

One billion people in India and we get the clowns. LOL

(I'm curious about the circumstances under which the U.S. is willing to violate international law.) -- #38 | Posted by Phoenix

It was during the Age of The Chimp.... before the Age of The Messiah. -- #45 | Posted by Tosser

Ah. During the time that the Bush Administration insisted all strikes were coordinated with Pakistan, while candidate Obama was telling people he'd go into Paki territory without Paki permission.

It all makes sense now.

Ah. During the time that the Bush Administration insisted all strikes were coordinated with Pakistan


They were (and are) since all the flights took off from the 4th undisclosed Pak airbase called "Bandari".

This base was not part of the original 3 airbases leased to the US by Pak after 9-11.

The original 3 airbases, are for "rescue and logistics" only. Bandari is purely for offensive operations and was added later.

The Chimp tried to take more than he was authorized to do.... more than once.... and the pact nearly broke down. A plane was sent up to shoot down the drones, once. Only then Bush got it.

Obama is very well behaved by comparison in this regard.

He sticks to the agreements and doesn't go right or left. In public at least.

while candidate Obama was telling people he'd go into Paki territory without Paki permission.


American boots on the ground inside Pakistan? LOL

They tried that once, killed a few people and ran off. After that, we started firing on American choppers and patrols and it never happened again.

President Zardari was in the US at that time on a visit and was asked about the Pak border guards firing on American choppers.

He said "Oh, the flares, you mean?... We are only firing flares." LOL

Anyway, this thread is about the miserable Indians who got rotten food tossed at them by the Chinese, who then took their fuel away. LOL

China makes border incursions into India at will... whenever they feel like it.

India has NEVER challenged them. Not even once.

tosser; my lot came late to cross border flame wars. have any of your generation walked into a complete Indian den like bharat-rakshit.com. Or if you want to be really hilaious (I checked this when i was a kid years ago) the bajrang dal youth forum?

btw hope your old email works, I have a doozy of a lead to hand over to you.

And yeah; don't the bhindians have any uranium mines in their God-for-saken lands or are they dependent on the West for their nuclear raw material needs?

news.newamericamedia.org

www.mbendi.com

news.bbc.co.uk

www.google.com

Hmmm...apparently the bhindians do have uraniu deposits. Its just that their country is so chock full of people that they can't afford to mine anything lest they want nine fingered kids to be born in such a large number, they'ld have to create an entire new caste for them ;-)

So that explains why they're so insistent on imorting uranium. At least imported uranium hasn't radiated whole villages.

India has NEVER challenged them. Not even once

I have some info regarding that - but yeah if you start a post on PDF I'll expand it - I can't seem to start posts.

have any of your generation


I'm not THAT old....


walked into a complete Indian den like bharat-rakshit.com.


PDF made that whole website collapse. LOL

We even got their posts, which the fools had archived in a ZIP file.

It turns out, most these Indians work in call centers and go net surfing when their work-load is light. They also share passwords and names.... there can be a up to a dozen people behind one name.

Anyway... I've never been to bahrat-rakshak... I cut my teeth long long time ago when ISP's here used to give out USENET feeds.... soc-culture-pakistan and such places. One big non-stop spittoon. LOL

I can't seem to start posts.


Just click on new topic...

So that explains why they're so insistent on imorting uranium.


I don't know what their problem is.... they claim to have uranium but for some reason, they just can't get to it.

In real terms, they have less fissile material than Pakistan does, most of it being Plutonium, not Uranium.

I think all their claims are bullshit. I think they are at the end of their supply.

They claim lots of stuff, but when you analyze their claims, it all falls apart.

Obama is very well behaved by comparison in this regard. He sticks to the agreements... -- #74 | Posted by Tosser

...candidate Obama was telling people he'd go into Paki territory without Paki permission. -- Phoenix

American boots on the ground inside Pakistan? LOL -- #75 | Posted by Tosser

Glad you're laughing. I was getting apoplectic listening to his contradictory campaign promises (will respect international law, will hit Bin Laden in Pakistan with or without Paki permission) while smart friends were drunk on the kool-aid.

Good to know he has chosen the right side on this one.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh should learn to "wok" like a man amd stop trying to "curry" favor with Chinese.

#84 | Your PUNishment will be severe!

Good to know he has chosen the right side on this one.


Only because he can't ignore ground realities.

If he steps out of line, if he tries to bring American troops into Pakistan, Americans will start getting killed like never before. And we will make sure, he gets the blame.

Of course, Obama is behaving himself. Otherwise, the man is a snake.

Oh and this news just in, about India's useless missile. LOL


Agni-II missile fails to clear night trial

BALASORE: India's nuclear-capable intermediate range Agni-II missile, test-fired for the first time after sunset on Monday, reportedly failed to get the desired results.

The Army test-fired the surface-to-surface Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) from the Integrated Test Range (ITR) from Wheeler's Island, Bhadrak district, around 7.50pm.The liftoff and the first stage separation was smooth. But it faltered just before the second stage separation and behaved erratically, deviating from its coordinated path. Further analysis is on to ascertain the cause,'' said a source.

The launch, originally scheduled in the first week of this month, was deferred due to some technical snags in its pneumatic system. Though the snags were rectified, another glitch surfaced during Monday's test, leading to the fiasco, the source claimed.

Times of India
timesofindia.indiatimes.com


www.csmonitor.com

Chinese weather

Even in Leh, residents mostly shrug off the Chinese incursions, speaking about them as if they were a cyclic part of the weather.

Others express some concern about creeping militarization. "There might be more armies transferred to the border to protect [it]," says Rigzin Dhonup, a university student from Ladakh. He says that while the Army is disciplined and well-behaved, more troops would raise tensions and perhaps provoke China or Pakistan into responding.

Leh already houses the entire 14th Corps of the Indian Army, as well as an indigenous force called the Ladakh Scouts. Soldiers are frequently seen walking through the bazaars. Active and former soldiers and Scouts who have patrolled the Chinese border describe it as mostly a relaxed affair, with handwaves exchanged at times across the river. However, the Hindustan Times newspaper reports that along the border at Pangong Lake, Indian soldiers who used to patrol unarmed now carry weapons.

A colonel currently serving in the 14th Corps, who says he is not authorized to speak, describes regular monthly meetings involving the exchange of gifts and discussions between the two patrolling forces on parts of the border.

The recent activity from the Chinese he says is "normal" and "it's just to keep busy." When asked which country Pakistan or China is more threatening to India, he says "both are equally."

Over time, however, that view has been shifting. Chellaney agrees with India's former Air Force chief Fali Homi, who says China is now the greater threat. Chellaney points out that China has delivered military assistance to Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Burma, and Nepal.

Some of those Chinese partnerships can be seen as gaining footholds in the Indian Ocean and its shipping lanes from the oil-rich Middle East. But these countries also encircle the Indian mainland.

"The idea is to constrain India's strategic options," Chellaney says. "The idea is not to actually use force but to create a situation where India stays on good behavior."

Could emerging competition between India and China lead to conflict?

Indian gunnery practice.

Good luck fighting Pakistan and extra good luck fighting China.

www.youtube.com

OUCH!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Could emerging competition between India and China lead to conflict?


There will be no conflict, you call center Hindoo.

You will take the cans of rotten food they toss at you, say "thank you" and you will let them take your fuel back to China. hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Too funny.

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