Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, November 20, 2009

Bruce Bartlett: The human capacity for self-delusion never ceases to amaze me, so it shouldn't surprise me that so many Republicans seem to genuinely believe that they are the party of fiscal responsibility. Perhaps at one time they were, but those days are long gone. This fact became blindingly obvious to me six years ago this month when a Republican president and a Republican Congress enacted the Medicare drug benefit, which former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker has called "the most fiscally irresponsible piece of legislation since the 1960s."

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Fucking Duh! Nobody has claimed the Bush administration were spendthrifts, just the opposite. The Federal Government, and most state governments, need to cut the crap. If you ain't got the money, don't buy the toy. That said, while the Bush years saw some outlandish spending, the Obama years will make them seem like a stingy grandma recycling aluminum foil and toothpaste.

What would that make Obama and other Democrats on their talk about fiscal responsibility next year?

That's a fun topic - "We promise to spend less NEXT year. After healthcare, cap and trade, stimulus, bailouts........ We promise, really....."

who will pay for the 13,000,000 that will still be uninsured ?

Oh right the Fuck tards say Bush spent too much, lets double down, yea thats smart

Those are the illegal aliens, and after next year's amnesty legislation they can then get free health care, too.

Then there's that new tax to pay for BHO's war in Afghanistan :

Nov. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said higher-income Americans should be taxed to pay for additional troops sent to Afghanistan.

Change we can believe in right Mr. Presidebt....
.

$200 billion in leftover bailout money money that Republicans think should simply be returned to taxpayers.

The Treasury Department is pushing for fiscal prudence and wants to use the money to pay down the deficit and keep a small rainy-day fund in case of economic catastrophe.

But Democrats are salivating over the possibility of $200 billion in unspent money.

How in the hell is a part of $200 B going to help advert an "economic catastrophe?" They needed $1T and more to assist the current recession with little to no help as of yet. Nothing but a lot of spend-happy crap to make themselves more important and more powerful.

Author is right. The Republicans were a disaster on spending. The Democrats are a catastrophe. God help us.

Fisacl responsibility, like morality, is only important for the other guys.

The GOP

"Then there's that new tax to pay for BHO's war in Afghanistan"

Oh really?

Why limit it to spending? Let's be honest about it. Republicans are hypocrites on just about every single major policy issue.

Seems funny to me to hear this shit now! Looks as if the whole house of cards is falling down around us and we STILL are talking about Bush and his spending! He REDUCED the scheduled increases in the budget, with the Democrats bitching ALL THE WAY.

Where are the JOBS, where is the money to PAY FOR THIS SHIT, really, no REALLY. There is not a rich man left who will pay the freight for this monstrosity.

Hell, there isn't a RICH MAN left!

You really DO think this won't affect you? REALLY? There is to much over reaction in what is going on, jobs will be lost, businesses fold, and so many more people end on welfare - for which there will be no one to pay into!

SS recipients will not get an increase this year, or next, be taxed on some MEDICARE payments for the NEXT FOUR years before the NEW Medical Plan goes into effect.

Yeah Gramms, FOUR YEARS of taxes before you see a dime of benefit from this Bovine Scatt Bill, and then comes Climate Change Legislation, the capper of all caps!

We'll close down in order to allow China, India, indonesia and a few other countries an advantage.

But what the HELL! Let's bitch out BUSH, and then we can learn Chinese, or French, or possibly German, even Canadian - after all - thats where we'll be headed as a country!

The end result of all this action inour Congress is to create a dependant population, dependant upon the Government for ALL things! If it were clearly thought out, there is NO OTHER CONCLUSION to be reached.

Sadly, very few politicians can resist the urge to buy votes with our tax dollars. The best way to reduce spending is to have split power in D.C.--Repubs controlling one branch and the Dems controlling the other. Then they can only spend on things they agree on and how often do they agree?

So what does this article say?

Bush was Obama lite? Or Obama is Bush on steroids?

So what does this article say?
#16 | Posted by Mato

It says you are a moron.

Placing yourself on moral high ground raises the bar.

Republicans have consistantly named themselves as the party of responsability.

Lets see what else..

Family forum

protectors of marriage between man and woman

The higher you place yourself on moral ground, the longer the fall and harder the crash at the bottom

The higher you place yourself on moral ground, the longer the fall and harder the crash at the bottom.

True that.

"The Higher the Leap... the Harder the Ground"

Just ask Icarus.

KK, 'nuff blog-fun fer now.

TTYL.

Be Well.

/As a tater do
stage left.

Just dump 'em all out of office.

Then:
Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution. (Income Tax & direct election of Senators.)

Replicate the 22nd Amendment for Senators and Representatives. (Term limits for President extended to Congress.)

Require Senators and Representatives to be subject to any laws they pass...no longer exempted from laws they pass on the "rest of us."

republicans may be but conservatives arent.

unfortunately the GOp is the conservative voice.

so when does todays enstallment of the buttfucking of seniors and doctors start in the senate????

So what does this article say?
Bush was Obama lite? Or Obama is Bush on steroids?

#16 | Posted by Mato at 2009-11-20 11:59 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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So what does this article say?
#16 | Posted by Mato

It says you are a moron.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian

He's a moron because he said Bush spent too much and the little o is spending even more?

Who is the moron?

"unfortunately the GOp is the conservative voice."

Ridiculous. "Deficits don't matter" is hardly a conservative opinion, "bring it on" is the opposite of a conservative statement. The Republican Party represented Conservatives in the era of Eisenhower, Nixon and Goldwater. They forfeited that role with REagan who claimed the Dems "tax and spend" and beat them at that game with the much worse "borrow and spend."

"Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution. (Income Tax & direct election of Senators.)"

In other words, tell our creditors to go fuck themselves. I can only say, what an idiot!

"He REDUCED the scheduled increases in the budget, with the Democrats bitching ALL THE WAY."

Pulled straight from your arse. Completely untrue, a blatant lie.

"Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said higher-income Americans should be taxed to pay for additional troops sent to Afghanistan.

Change we can believe in right Mr. Presidebt...."

Yeah, change back to the responsible funding of our wars like we have done during every conflict America has ever fought until GWB and the Republicans turned that on its head and passed ridiculous tax cuts during two seperate wars.
I am beginning to see a trend, Republicans are the opposite of patriots, no patriot would favor tax cuts during a war.

damn young lady

wake up with a 'hard on' or something?????

go out and enjoy the day....
smell some fuckin roses..lol

AND OUT

They are all hypocrits.

Deficits...
The Dems justify creating 10 trillion dollar deficits by pointing out that Bush and the Repubs created a 3 trillion dollar deficit.

National Debt...

In 2001 $5.6T
2009 $10.6T... Increase of $5T
Current $12T... So in 10 Months Obama and the Dems have increased the Debt by $1.4T or 28% of what Bush generated in 8 years. If the trend continues in 8 years the Dems will generate $13.4T national debt. This does not include the second stimulus people are talking about or what the HC bill will add to the deficit and national debt.

So by whatever number you want to use, Obama and the Dems are on track to do far more damage to our contry tham Bush and the Repubs.

If the medicare drug benefit is "the most fiscally irresponsible piece of legislation since the 1960s" what does that say about what the Dems are doing? Might they be the most irresponsible (hypocritical) group in history?

As I have said many times, in the end history will show that Obama and the Dems did far more harm to our country than Bush and the Repubs.

"The Dems justify creating 10 trillion dollar deficits by pointing out that Bush and the Repubs created a 3 trillion dollar deficit."

Except that Bush and the Repubs created much more than 3 trillion of debt when you factor in the long term cost of his war of choice. And, never mind that Obama's spending has been used to try and stave off the unemployment that the great Bush economy had created. The stimulus did cost money, is costing money, will cost money but without it unemployment would already be much higher and recovery much farther away. It seems so hypocritical when the right attacks Obama for the spending it is going to take to come out of the economic disaster Bush and the Republicans created.
After virtually every such post of theirs I ask myself, dishonest or stupid. In Sawdust's case I come done completely on the side of dishonest. He's just not that stupid.

And Obama will do 2 trillion worth of new debt before the end of his first year. For someone who pretends to hate Reagan's trickle-down economy, you sure don't mind Obama trying it with Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. At least Reagan's tax cuts were over the whole country; in order to believe in Obama's trickle-down, you have to think that Goldman's going to be sending you some of their bonus money.

Keep telling yourself whatever you have to, Danni. Most of the rest of us have already figured it all out.

News?? More like common sense.

Obama's spending is orders of magnitude beyond anything in human history.

All past parallels aren't.

Demorcrats now own an estimated $24 trillion dollar debt all by themselves.

How does it feel?

When Bush was sworn in on January 20, 2001, the national debt was $5,727,776,738,304.64.
When "W" left office on January 20, 2009, the national debt was $10,626,877,048,913.08.
The growth in the national debt during his eight years in office: $4,899,100,310,608.44.
The average yearly growth in the national debt during Bush's presidency: $612,387,538,826.05.
During much of Bush's tenure, he had a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate.
He claimed that tax cuts would pay for themselves - they did not. He claimed that tax cuts would result in growth - we are in the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

agonist.org

Let's take a look at those fiscally responsible repugs...the last =/- number is the increase/decrease in the gross national debt.

Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 +0.1%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 -3.2%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 +9.2%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 +13.1%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 -0.6%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 -8.2%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 +6.9%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 +3.9% projection

www.absoluteastronomy.com

Suffice it to say lilaWol EXCEEDED the projection.

Yep, it's all Carter/Clinton's fault, eh?

#34 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-22 10:01 AM

and oh, yeah, if you got nuthin new to say, stfu...eh?

#62 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-03 04:00 PM |

Good advice. Take it, hypocrite, eh? LOL

Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 +0.1%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 -3.2%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 +9.2%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 +13.1%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 -0.6%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 -8.2%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 +6.9%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 +3.9% projection

www.absoluteastronomy.com

Suffice it to say lilaWol EXCEEDED the projection.

Yep, it's all Carter/Clinton's fault, eh?

#34 | Posted by woke

Here, let me help you out...

Barack H. Obama 2004-2008 +347% projection.

Like I said, orders of magnitude.

Own it.

Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 +0.1%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 -3.2%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 +9.2%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 +13.1%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 -0.6%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 -8.2%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 +6.9%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 +3.9% projection

www.absoluteastronomy.com

Suffice it to say lilaWol EXCEEDED the projection.

Yep, it's all Carter/Clinton's fault, eh?

#34 | Posted by woke

Here, let me help you out...

Barack H. Obama 2008-2024 +347% projection.

Like I said, orders of magnitude.

Own it.

(sorry, forgot to fix the dates before posting).

As I have been pointing out here on DR, the difference between projections and actualities is informative for anyone desiring FACTS to guide their opinions.

The data speaks for itself. The "beloved" repug champions, reagan/bush 41 QUADTRUPLED the national debt and aWol/hallichainy DOUBLED it. Conservatives my ass.

Furthermore, it is also instructive to see how the party over country repugs continue to PROJECT failure onto Obama, BEFORE it has occurred, while IGNORING the failures of the last regime AND continue to shill for FAILED neocon/repug policies.

Finally, perhaps they would do well to note how 90% of the country rallied behind aWol after 911, despite his being APPOINTED by his daddy's scotus cronys and allowing 911 to occur on his watch.
Those numbers stayed the same until he screwed the pooch further by invading/occupying a country that did not attack the usa and ignored Katrina victims for 5 days.

What has changed?

Are our troops still in harm's way?

Do we face a bigger deficit now, (10 trillion on 1/20/09) than we did in 2001?

Oh, a dem is now potus, eh?

What happened to all that repug patriotism?

All based on party politics and not country, eh?

At least wait until failure occurs before denigrating the potus.

Or continue to do so, showing Americans what the true nature of the "small tent" party is.....party over country.

At least wait until failure occurs before denigrating the potus.

Or continue to do so, showing Americans what the true nature of the "small tent" party is.....party over country.

#38 | Posted by woke

Orders of Magnitude.

There is no comparison that can be made.

Obama surpasses even Rome in his plunder of the national treasure.

...party over country.

#38 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-22 10:31 AM

and oh, yeah, if you got nuthin new to say, stfu...eh?

#62 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-03 04:00 PM |

Good advice. Take it, hypocrite, eh? LOL

39

You are posting simply projections, based on politics, vs realities that have yet to occur.

Look over the historical record of our national debts.

Which party has proved repeatedly it says one thing and does another.

The repugs love to spew misinformation/lies like "spend and tax" dems.....yet, it is pretty obvious that repug administrations have spent like drunken sailors while cutting taxes for the richest 1% (141,000 people who avg. $7.4 million a year) and not paying for the debts they create.

Those who ignore the mistakes of history (voting repug) are doomed to repeat them. You can thank the rest of us for insuring that we did not "stay the course" and continue to embrace the "status quo" you seem to support.....which has been interminable debt from repug administrations.

The historical record is clear.

Aren't you ignoring it based on your partisanship?

You might want to jump off a sinking ship at some point, eh?

Aren't you ignoring it based on your partisanship?

You might want to jump off a sinking ship at some point, eh?

#41 | Posted by woke

You mean move out of the U.S.?

I already have.

Good riddance to those who place politics over country.

What was it the right used to say?

America: Love it or leave it.

...politics over country.

#43 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-22 11:29 AM

and oh, yeah, if you got nuthin new to say, stfu...eh?

#62 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-03 04:00 PM |

Good advice. Take it, hypocrite, eh? LOL

On a thread about repug hypocrites, it would behoove you to take the log out of your own eye, in order to see the mote in your brother's eye, eh?

It certainly would.

Any of you boys want to show where any of the info about GOP=party over country is wrong, I'd love to see it. But that is not the record of the smaller tent party, is it?

If it was, instead of PROJECTING and cheering for failure from Obama, they would at least wait until it occurs, before denigrating our potus.

Again, 90% of Americans supported aWol after he allowed 911 to occur on his watch.

The pathetic partisan repugs cannot even allow themselves to support a dem potus who inherited the repug foreign policy and economic failures.

It is pretty clear.

GOP=party over country

On a thread about repug hypocrites, it would behoove you to take the log out of your own eye, in order to see the mote in your brother's eye, eh?

Feel free to post any of my alleged hypocrisies, as I post yours. Oh, you can't find any? Well, what are you talking about then, joke?

GOP=party over country

#47 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-22 11:56 AM

and oh, yeah, if you got nuthin new to say, stfu...eh?

#62 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-03 04:00 PM |

Good advice. Take it, hypocrite, eh? LOL

Good riddance to those who place politics over country.

What was it the right used to say?

America: Love it or leave it.

#43 | Posted by woke

Correct!

I followed freedom away from my country of birth.

Just like my forefathers did.

Have a blast on your sinking ship...

...you're going to need it.

No problem Bendor, enjoy your exile from the greatest country and govt that ever existed in the history of the world.

Does the country you now reside in have presumption of innocence?

How about a govt health insurance option?

Followed freedom? Were you in jeopardy of losing your freedom here had you stayed? Under indictment? Fleeing prosecution?

No problem Bendor, enjoy your exile from the greatest country and govt that ever existed in the history of the world.

Does the country you now reside in have presumption of innocence?

How about a govt health insurance option?

Followed freedom? Were you in jeopardy of losing your freedom here had you stayed? Under indictment? Fleeing prosecution?

#51 | Posted by woke

My...

...your view of the world outside your own borders is pretty jaundiced.

Perhaps you might consider traveling a bit?

I fine liberal like yourself would probably love it in a place like Ecuador. I know I do.

Especially if you surf.

By the way, why do you think all the rich Democrats hide their assets in places like Switzerland, Panama, and Ecuador? And, why do many of them hold dual citizenship's and multiple passports?

Never listen to what politicians say. Always watch what they do.

Perhaps you might consider traveling a bit?
Never listen to what politicians say. Always watch what they do.
#52 | POSTED BY BENDOR AT 2009-11-22 04:51 PM

Oh, I've done plenty of travelling in my 60 yrs.
All around this world.

Enough to know where the greatest country and govt in the history of the world is.....,.

And i believe i've already demonstrated on this thread that I value actions of politicians over their words when i posted this above

Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 +0.1%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 -3.2%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 +9.2%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 +13.1%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 -0.6%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 -8.2%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 +6.9%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 +3.9% projection
www.absoluteastronomy.com

Enough to know where the greatest country and govt in the history of the world is.....,.

#53 | Posted by woke

My friend, then you must be as saddened as I am at the hopeless cesspool Washington D.C. has become.

What you once held to be true, no longer is.

Can't be.

Not with the systematic, intractable corruption we now have at all levels of Government.

Freedom, true freedom, is not a place.

And never was.

Ecuador, eh?

Do the laws in Ecuador include due process or presumption of innocence?

Here are a "few" pages of safety guidelines for living/travelling in Ecuador, my friend.

ecuador.usembassy.gov

LIVING IN ECUADOR

Laws

Narcotics

It is illegal in Ecuador to cultivate, process, sell, possess, use, or export narcotics. This includes hashish, marijuana, opium, heroin, and cocaine. The maximum penalty for such violations is 16 years in jail.

Traffic

Motorist, beware. If you are driving a vehicle and are involved in an accident in which someone is injured or killed, you will be arrested, regardless of whether you think you are guilty or innocent of causing the accident. The Embassy cannot get you out of jail in such situations. We suggest that you be extra defensive in your driving, or to avoid driving unless it is absolutely necessary.

ecuador.usembassy.gov

Infant Mortality Rate in Ecuador=20.9 (USA=6.3)

Large disparities between rich and poor are a persistent fact of life in Ecuador. Indigenous and Afro-Ecuadorian children are more likely to grow up in poverty and face difficulties in access to education. Concerted government efforts to address disparities have shown some significant results, but with much of its budget earmarked for debt repayment, it is difficult for Ecuador to fund levels of social spending that might improve the quality of life for the most vulnerable families.

Issues facing children in Ecuador

Stunting from chronic malnutrition affects 26 per cent of children under 5. Rates are markedly worse for indigenous children.
Ecuador's constitution guarantees free basic education for all children. But in practice, schools operate on such limited budgets that families must cover the cost of books, teaching materials and utilities. These fees hinder poor families from sending their children to school.
Net primary school enrolment rates are above 97 per cent, but only about half of all students enrol in secondary school. Between the ages of 12 and 17, 16 per cent of students drop out in order to work.
The HIV prevalence rate among persons aged 15-49 is 0.3 per cent.

www.unicef.org

I also understand the DEA is quite operative there and not only in interdiction and money laundering work, but also defoliating the environment, etc.

jeremybigwood.net

Enjoy your surfing, don't give up your US citizenship.

God Bless

And btw, I'm saddened enough about the money that interfere's with our govt focusing on the PEOPLE, but my answer is to work to make it better, not run away from it.

And the river opens for the righteous, someday

I was walking with my brother
And he wondered what was on my mind
I said what I believe in my soul
It ain't what I see with my eyes
And we can't turn our backs this time

I am a patriot and I love my country
Because my country is all I know
I want to be with my family
With people who understand me
I got nowhere else to go
I am a patriot

And the river opens for the righteous, someday

I was talking with my sister
She looked so fine
I said baby what's on your mind
She said I want to run like the lion
Released from the cages
Released from the rages
Burning in my heart tonight

I am a patriot and I love my country
Because my country is all I know

And I ain't no communist, and I ain't no capitalist
And I ain't no socialist
and I sure ain't no imperialist
And I ain't no democrat
And I ain't no republican either
And I only know one party
and its name is freedom
I am a patriot

And the river opens for the righteous, someday

Steve Van Zant

Enjoy your surfing, don't give up your US citizenship.

God Bless

#55 | Posted by woke

I did my part for the great American experiment...

...like those before me have done since our family's patriarch came across the Atlantic onboard the Mayflower.

Members of my family have fought in every war beginning with the Revolution.

Me, I'm a partially disabled combat veteran with 22 years of active duty.

Jousting at windmills (trying to change a hopelessly corrupt U.S. Government) is not to be found on my bucket lit.

Why?

I am now of the opinion that the majority of Americans no longer want to be free...

...for how could they when they demand corrupt politicians craft 2,000+ page laws so they can get things they want for free?

I no longer recognize my own country.

Take care.

Lost faith in America and now live in a small third world country that depends on America for it's survival, doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but to each his own.

I honor your service. Thank you.

I have been reading: "The Heart of a Patriot: How I Survived Vietnam, Politics and Karl Rove" by Max Cleland and i highly recommend it.

I agree that unless and until we get special interest money out of our elections and politician's pockets, America is not as great as it should and could be, but I haven't given up yet.

Lost faith in America and now live in a small third world country that depends on America for it's survival, doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but to each his own.

I honor your service. Thank you.

I have been reading: "The Heart of a Patriot: How I Survived Vietnam, Politics and Karl Rove" by Max Cleland and i highly recommend it.

I agree that unless and until we get special interest money out of our elections and politician's pockets, America is not as great as it should and could be, but I haven't given up yet.

#58 | Posted by woke

I'm getting old, and I'm growing tired.

I bear the memories of some very ugly things my friend.

I am often left questioning my own actions in the past, all the time believing I was defending a country that yearned to be free...

...how wrong I was.

I'm the one that has to live with that.

By the way, it's astonishing to be around people who REALLY desire their freedom...

...believe me, America no longer has a monopoly on the idea.

I'm only 60 yrs old, and raising a 4 yr old granddaughter, so perhaps that is keeping me young.

I've travelled through every state in the union, Guam, Phillipines, Japan, Vietnam, Greenland, Iceland, and much of Canada.

I did my tour in VN in 69-70, so I've seen a little "shit" myself.

Returned and graduated college on gi bill while beginning my family.
Married for 38 yrs, raised 5 kids-all grown, 7 grandkids from 2 yrs-18yrs old. Taught public schools/special education for 30 yrs and retired 5 years ago.

"Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose, and nothin ain't worth nothin, but it's free"
Kris Kristofferson

As you said, freedom is not a place. Freedom is a state of mind, so how would being in another country matter?

All due respect to each their own.

God Bless and keep you.

Lost faith in America and now live in a small third world country that depends on America for it's survival, doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but to each his own.

where?

READ the thread, buddy, you'll figure out who and where I was talking about.

Or just throw out your usual adhominem, off topic attack on me.

LOL

Oh, I see, it is too much to ask for you to reference what someone else said to distinguish it from your words.

got it.

If you'd bother to read the thread genius, it is quite clear that Bendor is the one living in Ecuador.......

Just like a neocon/repug to expect someone else to do everything for them.....

Just like a neocon/repug to expect someone else to do everything for them.....

Sure. Like I am the one crying like a pussy over health insurance. You are the one who needs it and you need ME to pay for it.

which I will do for you.

Your welcome.

I'm not crying over health insurance, mine does fine, tho the costs have risen every year since repugs shouted it down in 1993.

Seems to me it is the repugs who are crying and whining like little bitches since their party of NO hasn't stopped the healthcare reform juggernaut, eh?

And, btw, you don't pay shit for me boy.....I've paid my own way since i was 15 years old and began to work to buy my own clothes and school lunches. And you know what? I don't mind paying for those who cannot afford it. Most of them are working poor Americans, and I sure would rather pay for ALL Americans to have health insurance, than to fill the pockets of giant global war/oil profiteers and the richest 1% like your bought and sold heroes did in the last 8 years, eh?

Go WHINE to someone else sonnyboy.

And, btw, you don't pay shit for me boy.....I've paid my own way since i was 15 years old

I pay at least triple in income taxes than you do (school teacher) yet we probably absorb the same amount of govt resources.

Some of us are paying your way, Uncle Fester

again, your welcome.

Hey Eberly,

Go cry to someone who gives a crap about it....crybaby becky or rush addict....they'll listen....ya whiny ass.....you din't have no problem when your neocon heroes doubled our national debt to over 10 TRILLION, which is where it was on Jan 20, so stfu about it.

I can tell yor fancy I can tell you plain
You give something up for ev`rything you gain
Since ev`ry pleasure`s got an edge of pain
Pay for your ticket and don`t complain.

Bob Dylan from Silvio

not even a good try Woke. Pathetic and weak.

you are the one whining to me about what I haven't done for you.

Aren't you even going to thank me?

Eberly, Eberly,

I believe we both know you've never served anyone but yourself,
don't we?

I haven't been in the military.

I just pay my taxes, give to charity etc.... and go about my business.

Do you think you pay less in taxes because you were in the military?

This is about spending and how much you want from me, remember???

Whatever you say freeloader.

Freedom isn't free.

You seem to think some of us owe you something.

We don't, but you are benefitting anyhow, eh?

Here's where I'm coming from:

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

Mat 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

Mat 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal

Where are you coming from? I'm open enough to hear what you have to say.

I can't hear you EB, sound off like you got a pair!

LOL

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