Also from Bunch's essay:

But what if that 26 percent has influence beyond the trivial world of ACORN and presidential bowing? Check out where else these 26 percenters turn up:

When asked what kind of health care bill Congress should pass, 51 percent of Americans said a bill that contains a government-run health insurance plan, or "public option." Sixteen percent said a bill without a public option, while only 26 percent said they want no bill at all. Seven percent did not know or had no answer.
Now that's actually important. By the way, look who else is at 26 percent:

Just 11 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents believe Palin could be an effective president. Overall, 26 percent of Americans say she could be effective in the job.

Of course, you could argue that the 26 Percenters have been around for a few years, going back to the Bush administration:

Six in 10 Americans say the United States should join the Kyoto treaty on global warming, rejecting President Bush's economic arguments against the accord....However, in an ABCNEWS.com poll conducted a week ahead of Earth Day, 61 percent said the United States should join the treaty, while just 26 percent opposed it.
Which may explain this:

"President George W. Bush's approval rating dropped to a record low, making him the least popular president since Richard Nixon, according to a new Newsweek poll... Twenty-six percent of Americans approve of the job Bush is doing, while a record 65 percent disapprove, including almost a third of Republicans, Newsweek said.

Now, I happen to think that 52 million Americans are people who ought to be heard, who have a right to make their views known and to stage protests if they need to. But too often -- aided by a media that tends to give a lot of extra weight to the 26 Percenters, especially when they make for a good story -- we're allowing the tail to wag the dog in these United States of America. This week, for example, we may learn that a handful of senators thwarts the electorate's expressed desire for a health care bill, because of fear of this 26 percent.

It's true -- as more and more conservatives started pointing out around, oh, around 2006 or so, that this nation is a republic and not a straight democracy. Legislators are elected to weigh what's most popular along with what is legal and also with what they think is morally right.

But when all is said and done, we need leaders who will fight like hell for the dreams of the 74 percent of America, not ones who kowtow to the sometimes paranoid fears of the 26 percent. That would be what I would call our 26 Percent Solution.

"Al Gore empirically won the national popular vote in 2000, and lost in a disputed recount process in Florida."

Only disputed by a bunch of delusional psychotics

If you build it, they will come.

26%?

That's a number that's been bouncing around opinion polls for a couple of years now. Sounds like this article is just stating what most already suspected.

The 26% delusion should be the percentage of the American population who believe Congress is doing a good job.

35% of Democrats believe George Bush had inside knowledge of 9/11. That's psychotic.

#6 | Posted by rightisright

Interesting point. Too bad you weren't able to wheel out any higher caliber firepower than that, since you've countered the view that 52% of Republicans buy an utterly crap story by tell us only 35% of Democrats buy another story, also crap.

"That's psychotic."

Of course it is because we all know "no one could ever have imagined terrorists using airplanes....."

B-O-J-I-N-K-A

The Democrats believe that Obama is doing a good job, and that the stimulus actually worked. My observations are only anecdotal, but stupid voters are something the Dems seem to have the market cornered on.

And last I checked, 35 is bigger than 26, and there's more truth to the fact of ACORN stealing votes--though not enough to make a difference--than Bush having advance knowledge of 9/11.

How many jobs has Obama's stimulus created, Doc?

Do you believe that George Bush had advance knowledge of 9/11, Doc?

-How many jobs has Obama's stimulus created, Doc?

Not as many as Bush's Recession caused.

Not as many as Bush's Recession LOST... I mean.

Actually, according to your little poll, 9% of Democrats believe that ACORN stole it for Obama too. So a third of the people who believe that Obama had the election stolen for him, are actually Democrats.

Which is fine. A lot of Democrats are looking pretty stupid these days.

Bush's recession, Obama's depression. We could have been on our way out of it by now.

But no.

"35% of Democrats believe George Bush had inside knowledge of 9/11. That's psychotic."

I think that you are confusing "inside knowledge" with "foreknowledge".

I say confusing rather than conflating in order to give you the benefit of the doubt that you would know the difference.

And last I checked, 35 is bigger than 26, and there's more truth to the fact of ACORN stealing votes--though not enough to make a difference--than Bush having advance knowledge of 9/11.
#10 | Posted by rightisright

First, you've no proof ACORN stole the election for Obama. Or do you believe the GOP just rolled over and played dead, clutching compelling evidence to support that contention but for some unexplained reason unwilling to contest his election?

Second, 35% is indeed more than 26%. But what's being talked about here on one hand is 35% of the Democratic population; on the other 26% of the total population.

That calculator you found? I think it's Vermin's.

-We could have been on our way out of it by now.

Ah yes, if only we had sat on our hands instead.... you'd likely be selling pencils on the street corner.

What's so f-ing funny is that all these Tighties learned from a disaster caused by deregulated financial products is that we need more.... deregulation.

Quite amazing, actually.

"Quite amazing, actually."

For for the Twenty-Six Percenters.

I don't believe ACORN stole the election for Obama. They did steal votes, but not nearly enough to have made a difference. I didn't vote for McCain--he was the worst candidate in years, and I can't stand him.

But you hold on to you little libbie delusions with just as much desperation as the right-wing knuckle draggers. You put on the pompoms for your boy Obama every day, even though he's lied to you about everything.

"...even though he's lied to you about everything."

See, that's where you drop off into the abyss of your psychosis.

Ah yes, if only we had sat on our hands instead.... you'd likely be selling pencils on the street corner.

What's so f-ing funny is that all these Tighties learned from a disaster caused by deregulated financial products is that we need more.... deregulation.

Quite amazing, actually.

#18 | Posted by Corky
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Why bother? When the Democratic Senators are bought and paid for, and the Wall Street firms will be rewarded for incompetence, it doesn't matter what you do. Regulate away. Or not. You have the majorities, and the White House. But the douchebags who pick up campaign checks from Goldman and AIG aren't about to start writing regulations that reel them in.

Let me know when your own party decides to stop being part of the problem. Until then, I'm sure the 4 million more Americans who have lost jobs since the bailouts of Wall Street are happy that the Dems and Obama decided to help out hedge fund managers and money center banks, instead of them. We'll see next year.

"Until then, I'm sure the 4 million more Americans who have lost jobs since the bailouts of Wall Street are happy that the Dems and Obama decided to help out hedge fund managers and money center banks, instead of them. "

And I'm sure all 4 million are convinced if only the Republicans had been elected, the banks and Wall Street would have been shunned in favor of the little guy.

Just like the Republicans have always done.

See, that's where you drop off into the abyss of your psychosis.

#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis
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His campaign ads said that he would stop the war. He claimed that he would close Gitmo in the first 6 months, then moved it to Jan 2010, then changed his mind again. He said that we needed the stimulus to prevent unemployment from going to 8%; it's now over 10%. The jobs he claims to have saved or created are in areas that don't exist at all.

But by all means, call his detractors the psychos. I find it all kind of funny, and I find you funny. It's actually amusing to watch his dwindling number of supporters who still believe that a community organizer from Chicago who is invested in his own celebrity, actually has a clue as to what he's doing. So, please, party on.

And I'm sure all 4 million are convinced if only the Republicans had been elected, the banks and Wall Street would have been shunned in favor of the little guy.

Just like the Republicans have always done.

#24 | Posted by Danforth
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Maybe they do, maybe they don't. The Republicans voted against the bailout of Wall Street, and the Democrats voted for it. And that's what happens when New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Rhode Island are run by Democrats. That's where Wall Street lives, and where the campaign dollars go.

We'll see in 2010. New Jersey and Virginia may have been harbingers, or maybe not. Time will tell.

I fail to see any significant differences between either party. It's like a choice between Protestants and Catholics. They all worship the same god, the State in this case.

"Maybe they do, maybe they don't. "

Are you joking, or are you a joke? When in history have Republicans been the party against Wall Street and for Main Street?

"The Republicans voted against the bailout of Wall Street"

That's misleading: had the Congress been 100% Republican, the bailout would have passed. Bush, Paulson, & Bernanke left no other choice, and you'd have to be an idiot to believe the Rs would have let the economy crash down a few weeks before a national election.

It was only when passage was guaranteed that members of both parties went scurrying to hide behind their skirts, especially those up for re-election.

"But by all means, call his detractors the psychos. I find it all kind of funny, and I find you funny.
#25 | Posted by rightisright"

I didn't call his detractors en masse psychotic. There's plenty of room for criticism of any political figure, and Obama's no different. But statements like the one you made -- "even though he's lied to you about everything" -- are, at best, assinine.

This thread's about the Twenty-Six Percenter phenomenon and how, as I ventured above, their "expressed thoughts seem to reflect an excursion into a state consciousness that lies well beyond conventional norms, a journey into the realm of an alternate reality [that] could even be described as psychotic." I don't know if "even though he's lied to you about everything" qualfies for inclusion into the canon of Twenty-Six Percenter Delusions, but its inclusion certainly merits consideration.

As for making you laugh, that's a good thing. I'm sure you're familiar with the old proverb, "Laughter is the best medicine." So I'm happy to have been of some assistance.

That's misleading: had the Congress been 100% Republican, the bailout would have passed. Bush, Paulson, & Bernanke left no other choice, and you'd have to be an idiot to believe the Rs would have let the economy crash down a few weeks before a national election.

#28 | Posted by Danforth
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You assume a lot. Don't forget, the first bailout did NOT pass. I had little use for the Congressional Republicans, but I have even less for the Democrats.

The Democrats are the party of Wall Street and the uber-wealthy. That's why they STILL won't do anything about the Goldman or AIG bonuses. So maybe you're right--maybe the Republicans would have been just as useless--but you don't really know. What we DO know is that the Democrats thought that bailing out Wall Street banks would lead to a recovery, and they were wrong, with a price tag, thus far, of nearly $3 trillion.

But you'll vote for them anyway. They can't do anything that would cost them YOUR vote.

I didn't call his detractors en masse psychotic. There's plenty of room for criticism of any political figure, and Obama's no different. But statements like the one you made -- "even though he's lied to you about everything" -- are, at best, assinine.
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Give me a few examples, then, of his making good on his promises. Should be easy enough.

-Why bother? When the Democratic Senators are bought and paid for,
Let me know when your own party decides to stop being part of the problem

My Party will put up a system of public financing for campaigns and strict bribery laws on officials if yours will go along with it..... but they will not.

Dems may be franchised by monied interests in some cases, but the GOP is a wholly-owned subsidiary.

Would expect R's to be in denial about our president, but who are the 14% of dems that don't believe he won? That's odd.

Perhaps its Ergot's?

"The Democrats are the party of Wall Street and the uber-wealthy."

Of course.

The whole country believes that as well, and believes Republicans are the party of Main Street and the little guy.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Maybe "psychotic" wasn't far off the mark.

My Party will put up a system of public financing for campaigns and strict bribery laws on officials if yours will go along with it..... but they will not.

you are delusional with certainty with that bullshit post.

Unless "your party" is one that I am not aware of.

"But you'll vote for them anyway. They can't do anything that would cost them YOUR vote."

Well, when my only alternative is a group who wants to make gays into sub-citizens, and tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, what real choice to I have? McCain said he wanted to nominate another Scalia. Not Acceptable.

But nominate Jack Danforth, and you've got my vote. Too bad you won't.

32 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-20 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:can't come up with any examples

"can't come up with any examples"

I can.

Sotomayor, and engaging countries instead of invading them.

Well, when my only alternative is a group who wants to make gays into sub-citizens,

and the dems will reverse that. You know, the one's saying "marriage is between a man and woman" LOL

and tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies,

oh please, get back under your bed you wimp.

"oh please, get back under your bed you wimp."

Flag: / Feels the Need to Tell Women What They Can and Can't Do

"and the dems will reverse that. You know, the one's saying "marriage is between a man and woman""

You're confusing legalizing gay marriage with trying to write a Constitutional Amendment codifying one subset as second-class citizens.

You know...what the Republicans tried to do waaaaaay back in the...oh wait; that was this decade....

"oh please, get back under your bed you wimp."

Flag: / Feels the Need to Tell Women What They Can and Can't Do

#40 | Posted by Danforth

Danforth is a woman? Sorry mam, I didn't know.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2009-11-20 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag: Missed entire campaign reform debate of the 90's and Dem proposals for public financing of campaigns

Also missed puberty, but that's another story...

Dems may be franchised by monied interests in some cases, but the GOP is a wholly-owned subsidiary.

#32 | Posted by Corky at

GEESH BRO

have you not paid any attention at all to the slave masters called seiu.......
most visits to white house???

andy stern...head of seiu....and he wasnt there to shoot some hoops with the pres

and moveon.org...

Sotomayor, and engaging countries instead of invading them.

FF

Feels the Need to Tell Women What They Can and Can't Do

another example of you needing to stay under your bed. your back must hurt from posting under that damn thing all day. You should know that you can come out anytime.

But I guess it is too much to expect you to stop being afraid of the big bad republicans on abortion rights.

Ah yes, declining unions and moveon constitute a comparable counterbalance to wall street and the MI complex.

Have you checked the air quality in that library?

Missed entire campaign reform debate of the 90's and Dem proposals for public financing of campaigns

what a crock. is there anything you understand?

I understand that most Dems would vote for public financing of campaigns, given a good Bill at a good time.

And that most of your ilk would make "holy war" to defeat it.

I understand that most Dems would vote for public financing of campaigns, given a good Bill at a good time.

no. you "believe" that.

which makes you a sheep.

You know...what the Republicans tried to do waaaaaay back in the...oh wait; that was this decade....

#41 | Posted by Danforth
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Uh huh. It's always the Republicans fault.

Just a couple of weeks ago the gay-marriage crowd had their big chance in Maine. Fact is, if about 60% of the people who voted to send Obama to the White House had felt the same way about gay equality, gays would have gay marriage in Maine.

But they didn't, so you don't. Face it. If liberals and Dems believed in gay marriage, it would be legal in half the country. So quit pretending that it's only right-wingers who are homophobic. It must suck to know that the Democrat leadership prefers Wall Street over Main, and that the Democrat rank-and-file are as turned off to the idea of gays marrying each other as the Republican. But there ya go.

I understand that most Dems would vote for public financing of campaigns, given a good Bill at a good time.

And that most of your ilk would make "holy war" to defeat it.

#48 | Posted by Corky a
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Then go ahead. Big majorities in both houses.

I love your deflection, though. The reason you have to take money from Wall Street banks and do their bidding is because the taxpayers don't think we should pay for your campaigns out of our own pockets.

Maybe the answer is that when you crawl into bed for money, you're a whore. And being a whore for Goldman Sachs pays better than being one for Ed's Muffler Shop. And we could do without the whores, even if they're Democrats. But CorkyDocForth will vote for them anyway, every time, forever.

Excellent study. Confirms what I have believe and been posting about for some time now. A bizarrely high percentage of rightwingers are hate filled psychos.

"But I guess it is too much to expect you to stop being afraid of the big bad republicans on abortion rights."

Oh, that's right...the Republicans don't really want abortion to become illegal, they just want to keep pretending they do to rile up the votes.

Oh, that's right...the Republicans don't really want abortion to become illegal, they just want to keep pretending they do to rile up the votes.

exactly.

"quit pretending that it's only right-wingers who are homophobic."

It's not.

It's all of them, and the idiots they can scare with the pretense that homosexuality will be "taught" in grade school.

But not to worry. 'Phobes like you are dying out, and the votes are getting more sensible every time. I'll see equality in my lifetime.

-no. you "believe" that.

Remember what Mark Twain said about opening your mouth an proving right people who thought you must be a fool.

The biggest industry money whores in Congress have always been Repubes, hysterical historical revisionism aside.

Have you checked the air quality in that library?

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2009-

not in about ten mins since I farted

not to worry though

it was SBD

But not to worry. 'Phobes like you are dying out, and the votes are getting more sensible every time. I'll see equality in my lifetime.

#55 | Posted by Danforth
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I couldn't care less about gay marriage. Seems, though, that a whole lot of Obama voters still recoil at the idea of two men shacking up in a loving embrace, and having rice thrown at them in their local church.

Maybe there's only so much affirmative action that even libbies can stomach every election cycle. This was the black president's turn. The gay-marriage crowd might have their shot in twenty years, assuming Chelsea Clinton doesn't step up to the plate before then.

The biggest industry money whores in Congress have always been Repubes, hysterical historical revisionism aside.

#56 | Posted by Corky
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Maybe was true once, but no more. The Buffett/Gates/Jobs/
Rockefeller/Kennedy/Heinz/
Kerry fortunes, along with a torrent of AIGGoldmanSachsCitiJPMorgan money are all headed the Dems' way. Which is why they don't mind screwing over America, to save themselves. Which is why those guys all got bailouts, while CIT--the world's primary lender to small business--did not.

The biggest industry money whores in Congress have always been Repubes, hysterical historical revisionism aside.

agreed. but the dems are a close second.....and currently accepting more than the repubes.

I can't believe you would even suggest that the dems would even consider a bill

#61

sorry that should be "consider a bill that would restrict campaign financing to public funds."

out till later today....

"I couldn't care less about gay marriage."

Except, of course, as a wedge issue.

Not even then. I just don't care.

I don't believe ACORN stole the election for Obama. They did steal votes, but not nearly enough to have made a difference. I didn't vote for McCain--he was the worst candidate in years, and I can't stand him.

#21 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-20 11:01 AM | Reply |

They didn't steal votes.

Do you really steal a vote, or is it more like fabrication of one that wouldn't otherwise exist...

When I read the headline, I laughed so hard I nearly shat myself. For eight long years and over the course of two election cycles, we were told by the right - long, loud and often - that there was NO. FUCKING. WAY. the office of the Presidency could be stolen in a national election.

What is it with righties - do they come with some sort of automatic tune-changing mechanism built in for use when circumstances are no longer favorable to them?

Bwah-hah-hah-hah!

There were probably a good number of illicit votes supplied by ACORN but it's ridiculous to think there were the nunbers that could make an appreciable difference in the national election. However, in Minnesota, ACORN delivered thousands of votes for Franken and it wouldn't surprise me if there were a large number that were illigitimate.

55% of Republicans believe ACORN and Elvis are hiding Saddam's WMD.

Mary, I don't beleive anyone ever said that........provide a link to "NO. FUCKING. WAY. the office of the Presidency could be stolen in a national election."

Seriously. Some of you wonder why I have come to the conclusion that rightwingers are stupid?

The only national election ever stolen was possibly the JFK/Nixon election of 1960----the Chicago vote delivered it and the irregularities were huge--- Richard Daley's crew had a habit of delivering votes of voters that didn't exist.

Seriously. Some of you wonder why I have come to the conclusion that rightwingers are stupid?

Who cares? By using a broad brush, you paint yourself as stupid and no one gives much credence to what a stupid person thinks.

#73: ******** Troll Alert ******* Troll Alert *******

Poll: 54% of Repubs Think ACORN Stole Election.

In a CNN/Opinion Research poll released last Monday another 54% of Republicans thought that Sarah Palin is qualified to be president.

This presents a dilemma for the GOP. Do they rebuild their party from the 46% who are not paranoid and stupid or do they go with the 54% who clearly are?

In overly simple terms, Glenn Beck or Mitt Romney. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't really.

#73: ******** Troll Alert ******* Troll Alert *******

#74 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-20 06:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Has no problem with broad brushing

It is hardly "broad brushing" when the observation relates to 54% of all Republicans. LOL.

This presents a dilemma for the GOP. Do they rebuild their party from the 46% who are not paranoid and stupid or do they go with the 54% who clearly are?

In overly simple terms, Glenn Beck or Mitt Romney. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't really.

#75 | Posted by brock

Heck, if an unqualified guy like Obama can be elected, why not Palin?

Heck, if an unqualified guy like Obama can be elected, why not Palin?
Posted by matsop

I didn't vote for the President, but you can't be serious comparing the two.

"Heck, if an unqualified guy like Obama can be elected, why not Palin?
Posted by matsop

I didn't vote for the President, but you can't be serious comparing the two.
#79 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-11-20 06:50 PM"

If they are part of the above mentioned GOP 54%, they are.

"Seriously. Some of you wonder why I have come to the conclusion that rightwingers are stupid?"

I tell you what, true or no, statements like that don't exactly sew the seeds of bipartisanship.

didn't vote for the President, but you can't be serious comparing the two.

#79 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Yeah, you're right, he wrote 2 books and she ran a state government.

Problem is, rightwingers (at least 54% of them) are so angry and so stupid that there can't be bipartisanship with them in the first place.

"The only national election ever stolen was possibly the JFK/Nixon election of 1960...

#72 | Posted by matsop"

Kennedy won with 303 electoral votes to Nixon's 209. No doubt that Daley was corrupt and both the Chicago vote and the state vote was very close so Nixon should have won Illinois but its 27 electoral votes were not enough to change the national result. It has been suggested that the Illinois vote influenced the vote on the west coast but even if it did Nixon won there anyway.

How times have changed. Republicans took the west coast and the Democrats won the South.

It's quite normal, simply put losers need excuses!

Yeah, you're right, he wrote 2 books and she ran a state government.
correction:
Yeah, you're right, he wrote 2 books and she ran away from a state government.

and she ran a state government.

#82 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-20 06:58 PM |

No, Idiot.

She quit.

I'll bet you'd vote for the stupid fuck.

How times have changed. Republicans took the west coast and the Democrats won the South.

#84 | Posted by brock

They could again-- it appears a large number of the population is leaving California.

I'll bet you'd vote for the stupid fuck.

#86 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

Just pointing out hypocrisy---based on your infantile language you probably voted for the current disaster in the W.H. Jerry, try growing up.

#87: It seems that the population fleeing the State tends to be Republican. (Yay)

#87: It seems that the population fleeing the State tends to be Republican. (Yay)

#89 | Posted by moder8

Who's going to be left to pay for all the entitlement programs then?

"... it appears a large number of the population is leaving California."

#87 | Posted by matsop

I know a lot of Californians, dissatisfied with the way things were there, had left some years back for Colorado. This was supposed to consolidate Colorado as a Republican state and it seems it did. For a while.

You'd think that any further exodus from CA would again be predominantly by right leaning voters, so you'd assume this would consolidate CA as Democrat if anything.

Whatever. One thing we can all be sure of. The South ain't turning Democrat any time soon.

Problem is, rightwingers (at least 54% of them) are so angry and so stupid that there can't be bipartisanship with them in the first place.

Link?

You know, leftwingers aren't bi-partisan either. That's why they call them left wingers.

You're really on top of your game tonight!

It is hardly "broad brushing" when the observation relates to 54% of all Republicans.

Whose observations? Yours? LOL Pardon me if I scoff at your observations.

You know, m'8, you are one of the most hateful and ignorant people here yet you make these broad brush statements as if you were tolerant and had some common sense.

Seriously, dude, how do you expect to be taken seriously when spewing such hatred? No one takes celery seriously for the same reason.

#91--- I watch what's happening in that state and just wonder where it's going to land---what a mess, but not surprising--we've had very few adults running the country or many of these states.

I like painting with a broad brush too. And so when I see an Obama rally with the pom-pom bearers bused in from the North America's inner city's, I say to myself--wow. There's a smart looking bunch. I especially love the praise-and-worship songs written and performed by future rap artists, now only 12.

Gobama! Hmmmmmmmm.

Since Doc here is so enamored with this polling data here is a little bit more that he conveniently left out. Ouch!

"Hurting Obama's overall reviews is that for the first time in our polling we find a majority of Americans opposed to his heath care plan. 40% say they support it with 52% opposed. Including 58% of independents." Public Policy Polling November 19, 2009

I don't believe that Acorn stole the election. I think Obama would have won by a narrower margin. I do believe that liberals feel they have to cheat in order to win. They are the champions of getting the dead and the imaginary to vote

America is at a fork in the road. Either it will choose to put the Republicans, as disorganized, clueless and mean-spirited as they are, back in power or it will wait until they get their act together as a credible alternative government before it considers handing them power again.

To me this is a no-brainer as tuning in to Jon Stewart or FOX News any day will make clear but I am fully aware that the Republicans' current nihilistic behavior in attempting to make the country ungovernable by its elected leadership may be rewarded.

Seriously, what on earth do they think they will inherit should their course of action be successful?

"what on earth do they think"

Not much, obviously.

Five times, Shrub's victories did not match exit polls, thanks to Roves dirty tricks. Not the case with Obama, even though the popular vote was barely victorious.

what a bunch of stupid bastards.

I fail to see any significant differences between either party. It's like a choice between Protestants and Catholics. They all worship the same god, the State in this case.

#27 | Posted by Ray

ditto

100% know Oborrow printed $1 Trillion to buy the next election.

#103 | Posted by aclusux

It's all going to back fire if they pass this HC bill.

The taxes would start right now--that promise out the window--and no benefits until 2013.

Pass dem toast.

This whole discussion is a waste of time. Nobody saw anything. Nobody did anything. You can't prove anything. Money doesn't always buy you an alibi.

79% of all Republicans are fart sniffing whores.

#105 You say that like it's a bad thing

oh, boy, how ignorant are you? it was the IMMORAL policies of bushco and the GOP that led us to the edge of the cliff. Thank GOD for Mr. Obama and his impressive team. They single-handedly kept the economy from going over the ledge and we're now seeing the results of their impressive plans.

ROCK ON President Obama. Keep on fighting all those immoral and traitorous fundamentalists.

Me thinks buckeyenutlover has a few issues.
Either that or he's/she's really really stoned.
want to share some of that stuff dude?

Democrats steal many elections...

...local, state, and national.

Republicans do it too.

It has always been the best way to get "elected".

THIS IS WHY WE NEED ELECTION REFORM - CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS...

...or die.

Wow, did ACORN have Obama's daddy's cronys stop a legal recount approved by state's rights and APPOINT him potus, while he garnered half a million less votes than McCain?

I didn't know that.

oh, boy, how ignorant are you? it was the IMMORAL policies of bushco and the GOP that led us to the edge of the cliff. Thank GOD for Mr. Obama and his impressive team. They single-handedly kept the economy from going over the ledge and we're now seeing the results of their impressive plans.

ROCK ON President Obama. Keep on fighting all those immoral and traitorous fundamentalists.

#108 | Posted by buckeyenutlover
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Funniest post of the day. Keep believing! Gobama!

O BAH MAH O BAH MAH Hmmmmmmmmmm

ACORN stole the election?

Any proof?

Didn't think so. But then yet again, reality apparently has a liberal bias.

The "Conservatives" have finally become the party of the lunatic fringe; ironic, since they have accused Democrats of the same thing for years.

#108 | Posted by buckeyenutlover
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O BAH MAH O BAH MAH Hmmmmmmmmmm

#112 | POSTED BY RIGHTISRIGHT AT 2009-11-21 12:18 PM

I believe it's O-H-I-O

Go Buckeyes, Beat Blue!

I beleive the whole Democratic party along with Acorn, along with others in high financial positions STOLE the election. There was News that said Acorn was padding democratic votes and I believe it and always will whether it's ever defiantly proved or not, Acron has been proved unreliable in many things, and their reputation has gone down the sewer.

I know for sure it was a set-up, and Nan
Pelosi knew he was NOT a legally qualified Citizen as well as others, and should have never been allowed to even run in a Presidential race of the U.S..

His school and college records and actual long form birth certificte was never questioned, or been publically made available, because he as his grandmother said was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya, while McCain's records and Palin's were highly scrutinized and hashed over and over with a fine tooth comb, while every piece of dirt that could be made up or out-right lied about was broadcast on every national scum-cast that news media could spue out, against McCain and Palin...

No the election was NOT an honest and fair election at all and was extremely biased, and was set up...

No the election was NOT an honest and fair election at all
But bush 2000 A-OK

100% of the U.S. population believes they tried to steal the election.

Did they succeed? Some people think they did.

So what?

woke, you must have been asleep during the 2000 election. which recount was stopped? the state recounted 2-3 times. the last recounts were in JUST DEMOCRATIC COUNTIES, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO RECOUNT IN REPULICAN COUNTIES.

also, what count or recount of a recount of a recount was AlGore ever ahead?

What was the percentage of people that believed Cheney was involved in Haliburton during the Bush2 Admin.? Who cares?

ACORN is proven to be corrupt and I'm appalled that AG Holder has not initiated an investigation. The people deserve a resignation over this and the lack of extreme punishment in the Black Panthers @ Voting Site case.

Maybe the contest wasn't stolen by ACORN, but it was the Organization's (who was giving out ciggies and cash) use of federal moneys which contributed to the President's rise and their own demise. And, the new underground journalism by BREITBART and Co. are exposing the type of community activism that Mr. Obama was once associated with, during his professional career.

ACORN has stolen something from us all, but what has it given? Whining about an '08 election hypothetical and a pointless poll are not gonna do jack when it comes to saving/creating jobs or congressional seats. But hey, I think any press exposing the ACORN "conspiracy" is positive and this piece, at the very least, (Hoffman NY-23) does just that.

"Al Gore empirically won the national popular vote in 2000, and lost in a disputed recount process in Florida."

Only disputed by a bunch of delusional psychotics
#3 | Posted by vernon at 2009-11-20 09:34 AM

Right. Well, the data might prove something repetitious about that..

Since when is registering voters about stealing an election? Anyone can make up a name and put it on the ACORN list. The registrar has a responsibility to check these registrations, for Mickey Mouse and everyone else.

ACORN has been indicted for deliberatly registering non-persons and more people have voted in districts than there are persons. Does that seem illogical to anyone in the Registrar's office or in the courts? Do we live in the most corrupt voting system ever dreamed up? WHY IS IT THAT THE DEMOCRATS SYSTEMATICALLY FIGHT VOTER REGISTRATION AND VOTING WITH PERSONAL GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION, IE, DRIVER'S LICENSES, SUCH AS WE HAVE TO USE TO CASH A CHECK AT THE GROCERY STORE?????

It is self-evided that ACORN and Dems have been under-the-radar stealing elections for years. It is well accepted that the Dems stole the Kennedy election by voting the dead in Chicago, and that was in the realtively innocent 1960's.

Makes you wonder if the Dems could REALLY win a legitimate election, or if they have to pull together a cooked up vote count to win: for instance, Norm Coleman's loss in Minnesota to that dunderhead who now holds his seat. Votes found by a true miracle! in the trunk of a car; more votes in a precinct that there are people????

As I heard one talking head democrat say, "It's not in the voting, its in the counting..." WOW.