I hope this progresses just so we can watch Obama squirm. He can't ratify such a treaty. But he's too milquetoast to speak even a word of truth about why.

Hey, wait a fucking second...there's a shortage of Virginians? Crap.

i assume, however, that they are excluding the jews from protection. or, maybe you can't mock the jewish religion, but you can make statements about pushing Israel into the sea.

Oh, I'm sorry, was that considered mocking statement?

LMBO

Man oh man!!!

This is a hoot!

And of course this blasphemy they want to ban only covers their religion right??

It wouldn't stop them from blaspheming anyone elses religion.

Uh oh Kirk!!

You are NOT allowed to speak the truth about Mohammed!!

Prepare yourself for a dump!

Sad, but that's the way it is.

"And of course this blasphemy they want to ban only covers their religion right??

It wouldn't stop them from blaspheming anyone elses religion."

I am beginning to become convinced that Muslims and Baptists are the same group operating under two different names.

The prophet ate bacon for breakfast !!! Whew. Glad I got that in before the ban.

If the UN ends up endorsing such an international treaty it will only serve to make more people realize that the UN has gone WAY beyond their original mandate

I can't wait until they invent a genetic, chemical, biological weapon that singles out religious fanatics. Islamic, Christian doesn't much matter. Maybe at the same time they could invent a "common sense" pill. ah well I'm just thinkin out loud.

It is a waste of time to apply reason to an un-reasonable or non-reasoning people in an attempt to second guess religious motives for instituting this ban. There is no "why" because it is the nature of such to rob, rape and murder the infidel when prey is available and vulnerable.

As long as people subscribe to the belief that all cultures, religions and people are created equal, prey will be plentiful.

When the Muslims start respecting the right of every other religion to exist without being blown to pieces by some radical pieces of s--t, then perhaps I would have a shred of respect for them.

When Muslims rise up against the so-called radicals, fight them, shut them up, close them down and not just "denounce" them, I will believe they REALLY don't support the murderous actions of their so-called religious "minority" who think this way. Actions, Actions, Actions. Words are so very cheap. As they say, "Money talks and bulls--t walks. Muslims need to walk the walk, not just talk the b.s. talk.

Then, and only then, will I believe they do not support every single act of terror that has happened since Jimmy Carter started the ball rolling by not bombing the crap out of Tehran when our diplomats were held hostage for 444 days during his unbelievable economic and foreign policy failure of a presidential administration.

I am beginning to become convinced that Muslims and Baptists are the same group operating under two different names.

Taliban afghanistan was only one messiah short of being a baptist's wet dream.

Good luck with that, fools.

Tosser! I thought Pakistan was so enlightened this sort of thing couldn't happen there!

Buddha, Mohammad and Moses were traveling together when their car broke down. They were unable to get any help, so they walked to a nearby farm and asked the farmer if they could stay the night.

The farmer was happy to put them up, but he only had one extra bed, a double bed as it were, so one of the three would have to stay in the barn. Buddha quickly volunteered, and so Moses and Mohammad made themselves comfortable. It wasn't long, however, before a knock came at the door.

There stood Buddha.

"I'm sorry, there is a cow in the barn, and it's my mother in law so...." So, with a shrug Moses made his way to the barn. It wasn't too much longer before there was another knock at the door.

There stood Moses.

"I'm sorry, there is a pig in the barn. Pigs are, of course, unclean animals so..." With a sigh of resignation, Mohammad made his way to the barn. It wasn't much longer that another knock came at the door.

There stood the cow and the pig.

When the Muslims start respecting the right of every other religion to exist without being blown to pieces by some radical pieces of s--t, then perhaps I would have a shred of respect for them.

So you miss Saddam's Iraq, the only muslim country with synagogues? We support ther saudis who outlaw prayer meetings and abet the mad ayatollahs shiafying Iraq. And then we bitch about them....

Tosser! I thought Pakistan was so enlightened this sort of thing couldn't happen there!

What sort of thing? A push for world political correctness?

I think it's a good thing. And they will get what they want too. LOL

Hey, wait a fucking second...there's a shortage of Virginians? Crap.

#3 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-19 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

There's only a shortage of Virginian Slims. You can go down to the Wal-Mart in Roanoke and find all the fats one you want

"This proposal creates 'special rights' for organized religion at the expense of the First Amendment,"

"If the UN ends up endorsing such an international treaty it will only serve to make more people realize that the UN has gone WAY beyond their original mandate"

Good grief, first thing on a Friday morning and I' agreeing with Gimme.

What next?

This will be made into a world-law.

Welcome to a new tomorrow. A bright tomorrow of manners and political correctness.

The new UN ruling will give me power .... eventually.... to shut down websites if I complain to the proper authorities. LOL

You know Tosser I don't want to hear Your BULLSHIT about manners when You ridicule and name call Christians while at the SAME EXACT TIME want respect shown towards Muslims. Either You respect both or You respect neither. You obviously do not.

Larry

Well... Larry... however hard it might be for you to swallow.... the world is going to be the way I see it should be.

If you don't like it, you can.... well... there isn't much you can do about, now is there? LOL

Now let the UN do it's job.

You ridicule and name call Christians

And when did I do that?

Larry...Ignore him.

Pray for him instead.

Yeah Larry... pray for me. hahahahahahahahahaha

"You are NOT allowed to speak the truth about Mohammed!!"

Lisa... what truth?

i don't see any truth.

And when did I do that?

#27 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-20 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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"So you miss Saddam's Iraq, the only muslim country with synagogues? We support ther saudis who outlaw prayer meetings and abet the mad ayatollahs shiafying Iraq. And then we bitch about them...."

The old Iraq wasn't a "muslim" country. It was a secular country that had actually sucessfully integrated all religions. As I understand it, Saddam was kind of a Tito in that respect, using his power to unite groups that were constatntly at odds elsewhere in the world. In fact, Tariq Aziz, his foreign minister, was a Christian...

"Iraq, the only muslim country with synagogues?"

Somebody needs to do a little research.

"It was a secular country that had actually sucessfully integrated all religions"

I disagree.

I believe that on some level these people know their religion is big turd in the melting pot that is the world and that is why they want to ban criticism. They know the critics are right about alot of things. There's no other logical explanation for their hyper-sensitivity.

Lisa, the Hadith is a compilation of things people overheard or were witness to in the prophets life.

some of those things have been proven false

others are unverifiable..

All references to Aisha's age as 6 is from a single guy who was proven false and also a insane.

There are other references in the hadith that say she was in her teens, and there are more sources for those ones.

So again, what truth?

Lisa, I'm not going into it again.

If you continue to believe what you want regardless of what i say.. then so be it.

thats your peragotive.

Wow, my historical facts, easily researched and attested to about Mohammad's young wife were censored.

Interesting.

As has been discussed numerous times, Muslims are a protected class here. You can rail against jews and christians all you want, but just leave the muslims out of it.

I've personally flagged a ton of the "priest/pedo" comments (that I myself have made quite often), and a couple of them were deleted, but not all. None were dumped.
So, as usual, a double standard.

Wow, my historical facts, easily researched and attested to about Mohammad's young wife were censored.
Interesting.
#38 | Posted by kirk

Maybe you'd have better luck -- and avoid a dump -- if you indicated the credible (repeat: credible) source or sources from which you obtained your information. There's a world of difference between facts and interpretations. The former are difficult to establish; the latter, oh, a bucket of them a nanosecond.

I can't wait until they invent a genetic, chemical, biological weapon that singles out religious fanatics. Islamic, Christian doesn't much matter. Maybe at the same time they could invent a "common sense" pill. ah well I'm just thinkin out loud.#9 | Posted by Tedly at 2009-11-19 10:02 PM | Reply |

Only 9 posts until the murder of Christians and others is promoted.

Classic Drudge Retort tyranny flag.

when i google anything islam

i get two types of information

extremely anti muslim propaganda

or extremely pro muslim propaganda

there is no objective sources that i've seen.

Thanks, Doc Sarvis.

False horse dung about Jesus, the Bible is posted weekly here and I've NEVER seen a similar standard for those.

So for all the self-righteous antichrist types here that try to foolishly compare Islam and Christianity, the double standard testifies against you here.

I just want to know WHY the censorship. Someone scared of reprisals? Someone secretlu reveres Islam and Mohammed?
It's certainly not a "place-nice-be-respectful-
toward-religion" ethic...

"Only 9 posts until the murder of Christians and others is promoted."

haha why are the christians crying about being hated on with one breath, and in the next spilling hatred out their own mouth against other religions.

Did Jesus really teach this kind of hypocracy or is it something yall christians morphed into over the last 2000 years?

2000 years ago, the average life expectancy was 33.8 years for males, 27.3 for females.
Female prime child bearing years were 12-17 years of age.
Christian, jew , muslim, hindi, and every other society bread them very young.
Also, researchers tracking the beleived life of jesus, have strong evidence that he was a cruel and murderous little fuck.
Claiming only muslims break their treaty/social contracts is absurd. The native population of this country would take serious issue with that, you might also ask the ancient egyptians about that as well. Or the now dead indiginous tribes of europe.
The U.S. breaks them all the time, and, to add insult to injury, have ratified many that violate the U.S. Constitution.
Doesnt matter, christian, jew, muslim, lying, thieving, murderous sub human shit.

"the double standard testifies against you here."

are you fucking kidding me.

people bash islam on here everyday as well.

why do religious fundo's play the martyr card?

lately muslims have taken that card to the next level by blowing themselves up into martyrs.

i'm sure soon enough your going to see christian "martyrs" all over the place as islam's population starts overtaking the christian numbers

I can't wait until they invent a genetic, chemical, biological weapon that singles out religious fanatics. Islamic, Christian doesn't much matter. Maybe at the same time they could invent a "common sense" pill. ah well I'm just thinkin out loud.#9 |

Well if you could find a way to spike their "Holy" water with LSD, that would do the job of blowing up their cults.

"Christian, jew , muslim, hindi, and every other society bread them very young."

gitmoboy

i've tried to use that logic on these idiots for a long time.

comparing that time period to today's standards is the m.o. of morons... but they continue to do it.

logic escapes them.

Gitmboy -

I think I understand and sympathize with your feeling that no single religion has a monopoly on either positive or negative attributes. But when you write, "Also, researchers tracking the beleived life of jesus, have strong evidence that he was a cruel and murderous little fuck" what, exactly, are you referencing?

Here's my real point:
We religionists should be big enough to hear the worst out there that can be said.

I am NOT(!) saying that every mean thing said about Jesus or the Bible should be censored.
This is America, and this is the internet, we can handle the free exchange of ideas. In fact, often Christianity thrives in that atmosphere.

Apparently, Muslims can't/won't tolerate the free exchange of ideas.

#49 I'd like to hear the answer to that one.

Something tells me it will be a link at www.gitmboysass.com.

Well if you could find a way to spike their "Holy" water with LSD, that would do the job of blowing up their cults.
Posted by nullifidian

I can't believe nobody has ever tried that before.

Yeah, why indeed?

This Sister Lisa person said... and I quote... "I will get the truth about Mohamed from the Koran".

OK....

And now she ran out of ammo and started quoting discredited "Hadiths". LOL

What happened? Couldn't find any stuff in the Koran, eh?

These Fundi types are always lying, never consistent.

Anywho... When Pakistan starts a campaign in the UN, it usually has an effect.

We will have a better world, soon enough.

Post 53 was in response to Klifferd, btw.

-I can't believe nobody has ever tried that before.

We tried it on the government in the late 60's.

Mixed results.

comparing that time period to today's standards is the m.o. of morons... but they continue to do it.logic escapes them.#48 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-11-20 10:24 AM |

Yes, the logic of marrying 6 year olds DOES escape my logic.

Can you show evidence of some ANCIENT religious leader in Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Quezacoatlism, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster that acted similarly? Go back beyond 1,500 years if you have to.

#49 I'd like to hear the answer to that one.

Something tells me it will be a link at www.gitmboysass.com.
#51 | Posted by Corky

I have a feeling you can take that one to the bank.

people bash islam on here everyday as well.why do religious fundo's play the martyr card?
#46 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-11-20 10:21 AM | Reply

Klifferd,
Is bringing up historical facts "bashing?"

Is bringing up quotes from the sacred texts of any religion "bashing?"

I don't consider them so, and I don't bitch when people do it about Christianity, I NEVER flag them, and I WOULD NEVER censor them!!!!

As a Christian, I know and acknowledge there are some uncomfortable and non-humanistic Bible passages that are quite offensive...and I know 2,000 years of history since Jesus shows some awful shit done "in the name of."

But I *welcome* the discussion.

Hold Christianity (and every other religion) up to the standard of history.

Is bringing up historical facts "bashing?"
#58 | Posted by kirk

Can you answer #40 above?

sacred texts?

you haven't quoted the koran once.

what sacred text?

right you have no clue what you are talking about.

btw... how am i censuring you?

by me trying to correct you is considered censuring..

deluded.

Tosser, Kliff, question for either of you.

The first section of the Quran, as I read it, and it has been awhile, gives a brief history of both Judaism and Christianity. It spends a fair amount of time discussing the old testament, not so much the new.

The 2 distinct things I recall, are that it clearly states that 1. Jesus was a prophet and we all should listen to his words-good stuff (it kind of ties with what Thomas Jefferson said, that if you distill the New Testament down to just what Jesus said, you have the most sublime moral code ever written by man) and 2. That Jesus did not die on the cross.

Now given that Mohammad was born hundreds of years after Christ, and about 200 years after the institution of the Roman Catholic church and the establishment of the Nicean Creed, living the nomadic life, how the heck did he know that Jesus WASNT crucified??? Was this in one of his dreams???

Interested in your thoughts.

Also, researchers tracking the beleived life of jesus, have strong evidence that he was a cruel and murderous little fuck.

This doesn't get censored or deleted...Now I'm really curious as to what Kirk posted that got it dropped.

"how the heck did he know that Jesus WASNT crucified???"

booji

according to islam, gabriel came to Mohammad and told him that God replaced Jesus with a dummy and took his soul to Heaven before he died.

Because Jesus never died, he has the ability to return later and lead humanity against the Anti-christ. (Dajal)

The fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam is:

a) Jesus is not God's one true begotten Son. God can't have children. He's not a creature of this Universe. He's beyond our understanding... Giving him human attributes lowers God.

b) There is no concept of original Sin. We do not rely on Jesus dying on the cross to save us. God decides who is saved as he is the judge. Saving only 1/5th of humanity while allowing the other 4/5th to suffer hell is not a Just God in Islam.

Most merciful would then be a lie.

We save our selves by living simple peaceful lives.

Those who aren't like al qaeda, don't understand islam.

those who aren't (leading simple lives), like al qaeda, don't understand islam.

*****

i wrote it out wrong.

Freudian slip.

freudian slips deal with sex ;)

i make those on purpose

So it was Gabriel.

Very good, it always puzzled me how he got his info.

booji, by the way, Mohammad had a lot of respect for Christianity as it understood the concept of oneness of man.

meaning all men(woman) are equal in God's eyes. He as Jesus was very opposed to the "chosen" people idea.

I recommend reading "Islamic Jihad" written by M.A. Khan.

Okay, what about the clause, I believe in book V that states you cannot befriend either a Christian or a Jew???

Why not???

Christianity does not make a 'chosen' distinction either.

In the early church there was much argument about that. Paul made it clear that Christianity is for everyone, Jews, Gentiles etc. In other words, those who are and are not circumcised. Peter and Paul had a few arguments about that one.

ok so that is a mistranslated, or better yet... the words are translated correctly but have a slightly different meaning in arabic.

its definately NOT saying do not make friends with christans and jews.

what it is saying is if islam is under attack (sorta like judaism durring ww2)

don't hide amongst the christian and jews and pretend to be one of them... stand up for your principles.

"ok so that is a mistranslated, or better yet... the words are translated correctly but have a slightly different meaning in arabic."

Not a no-biggie.

"All references to Aisha's age as 6 is from a single guy who was proven false and also a insane."

So this guy is insane but the same "scholars" who reacheed this conclusion hundreds of years after the fact have no problem believing that Mohammed was wrestling and conversing with an angel?

Somehow it doesn't seem that these conclusions were reached by objective individuals.

when i google anything islam

i get two types of information

extremely anti muslim propaganda

or extremely pro muslim propaganda

there is no objective sources that i've seen.

#42 | Posted by klifferd

That's why you must research multiple sources and extract the facts, and only the facts, from each to ascertain the truth. Extract the consistent information and apply it to answer your query. Yes, that takes time and effort and that is why so many sheeple allow priests, imams, rabbis and monks to do the thinking for them.

"So this guy is insane but the same "scholars" who reacheed this conclusion hundreds of years after the fact have no problem believing that Mohammed was wrestling and conversing with an angel?"

sully

i agree but that is the problem with all religions :)

"so many sheeple allow priests, imams, rabbis and monks to do the thinking for them"

agreed... thats why i don't believe in clergy.

agreed... thats why i don't believe in clergy.

#79 | Posted by klifferd

Ok...but do you believe that blasphemy should be banned as far as this proposed UN treaty is concerned?

UPL8

i believe that governments and corporations should be politically correct, but the citizens should be allowed to say whatever they want.

Maybe not at work but on their own time.

What sort of thing? A push for world political correctness?

I think it's a good thing. And they will get what they want too. LOL

Of course it is a good thing when people aren't going about acting like assholes and trying to verbally provoke others. Mandating this legislatively is not the way to go, though.

Blasphemy laws and other restrictions of free speech have a chilling effect on legitimate criticism, and they do nothing about the assholes that are already milling around in society. All they do is make them criminals in addition to assholes.

No religious ideology deserves to have its critics pull any punches. Blasphemy laws may work for other countries, but they are un-American to the core.

thats why they call it "politically" correct

cause its for politics and politicians.

not for the citizens.

"i agree but that is the problem with all religions :)"

Pretty much all of them were started by people who would be institutionalized for acting the same way in the present.

Also, researchers tracking the beleived life of jesus, have strong evidence that he was a cruel and murderous little fuck.

Source?

As far as I know, the only account of Jesus being violent is the Biblical account of when he went into the temple and smashed a bunch of stuff because it was being used as a marketplace.

thats why they call it "politically" correct

cause its for politics and politicians.

For sure. When you are responsible for representing your nation, company, or organization you should probably avoid being a prick. If people want to be jackasses on their own time, let them.

UPL8

i believe that governments and corporations should be politically correct, but the citizens should be allowed to say whatever they want.

Maybe not at work but on their own time.

#81 | Posted by klifferd

But, do you believe that blasphemy should be banned as far as this proposed UN treaty is concerned? Yes, or no?

As far as I know, the only account of Jesus being violent is the Biblical account of when he went into the temple and smashed a bunch of stuff because it was being used as a marketplace.

Pretty much all of them were started by people who would be institutionalized for acting the same way in the present.

#84 | Posted by Sully

So true.

Passion of the Christ 2: Judgment Day

#88 | Posted by ZombieHunter

LMHO...thanks, I needed that.

"Watch this movie. It may change your outlook on things a bit. Probably by making you laugh hysterically."

That's great. FF.

Kliff, Tosser,
There is a saying out there floating around these days:

Not all Moslems are jihadists, but all jihadists are Moslems.

Given that that so much damage and misery is being perpetrated out there by a small percentage of Moslems out there who do perceive that they are correct in fighting the 'great satan' of the Western world, why would you want to put something as subjective as a 'blasphemy ban' out there for them to latch onto?

Those are the same cooks (Afghan taliban)who back in the 2000's were blowing up the Buddhist shrines see link below). And the same cooks who flew planes into buildings, and the same cooks who see fit to shoot up a bunch of unarmed soldiers.

Zombie,
That is reaaaaallly bad.

But I was laughing!!

"Blasphemy laws may work for other countries, but they are un-American to the core."

That's why my first thought was "Obama literally can't ratify this here as it would violate the US Constitution. So IF the UN were to persue this, how would Obama dance around the issue?"

We know he wouldn't just tell them to screw off, even though they are taking it upon themselves to try and limit our freedoms. So how would he say no while still sending out sufficiently submissive vibes? I think it would be kind of funny to watch.

i'm for free speech personally

personally i think muslims should be worrying about those that are perpetrating inhumanity in their own peoples then worrying about cartoons and blasphemy..

waste of time and money.

Kliff:

#36

Odd that soooo many negative aspects written about Mohammed are much later ruled as "false"

It appears that people are just changing what they want to in orfer to keep the faithful, faithful.

And also odd is that some Muslims will admit to it being truth.

But I love ya no matter what you believe!

lisa, they were false at the time. they are false now.

with no official clergy, lies have room to spread and though of as true. If people like al qaeda and such continue to say suicide bombing is allowed, then a thousand years from now people will think its cannon even though its not.

many of the so called "experts" are self proclaimed.

but there has been a massive propaganda war against all religions since their inceptions

what is odd is that you don't see that...

you can love me all you want... but if you take the word of others over the word of those you claim you love... love ain't worth much then is it?

And all Muslims that commit crimes against Americans should be included in the hate crime bill, no shit, You wait till I become President, THEN THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE HATE CRIME BILL, the playing field needs to be evened up...>

Let's hate the crime, not the criminals.....

{facepalm}

Entrance exam to military service: Three months of pork products for all three meals....

Tell Obuma that he is the one who signed "Hate Bill into law" mostly against White Americans...

Entrance exam to military service: Three months of pork products for all three meals....

#100 | Posted by daprof

Nah...exclusion based upon if you have to drop to your knees and pray towards Mecca five times a day. I'd call that soldier unsuitable for service.

To me Tosser, as a civilized enlightened Moslem, you would see the folly of such a UN resolution.

I don't see the "folly" of it at all.

I think it's a good effort.

When Pakistan gets behind a UN resolution, it usually passes. We have a good history at the UN, being the nation that contributes the most (along with Canada) and being part of the Security Council most of the time.

Point is, we make things happen.

And this will happen.

If somebody like the Taliban try and take advantage, then worry not, this will protect Buddhist stuff too, for example.

Under this resolution, it would be very easy to attack the Taliban when they destroyed the statues.

The blasphemy resolution is not Islam-specific, if that is what you thought.

UN resolutions are irrelevant unless a member country ratifies them and passes laws in compliance. The chances of that happening in a Western country: EXACTLY ZERO, with the possible exception of the UK.

This is against our First Amendment Free Speech--Obama can't sign it.

UN resolutions are irrelevant unless a member country ratifies them and passes laws in compliance. The chances of that happening in a Western country: EXACTLY ZERO

Sure about that?

With Obama and his Nobel Prize, bowing all over the place?

He'll sign it. LOL

And even if it doesn't, most of the world will sign it. That puts American publications under threat in those countries, reducing circulation to a trickle.

Tosser,Do you really think you'll get respect for your viewpoints on any thread when you post an obvious fraud, sheepishly declare multiple times it's true then duck away?

You probably thought you were cute. You'll swear up and down people have no sense of humor. Guess again. That actually backfires because now instead of any respect, your DR legacy is officially that you have proven yourself to be a fraud.

Tosser,Do you really think you'll get respect for your viewpoints on any thread when you post an obvious fraud

What are you talking about?

If you are talking about that Christian game thingy, then know this that when I posted it, everyone in the blog-world was wondering if this was true or not.

I never swore that it was true. I just posted it for your consideration as news.

It is my job to bring you news, hot off the press. No more, no less.

As for respect... what am I supposed to do with the respect of an American.. a people I have no respect for? LOL

Please keep your respect.

LR:

Don't forget patholigical liar.

Don't forget patholigical liar.

No sweetie... YOU are the pathological liar. And the dump you earned proves it. LOL

#108 | Posted by Lisa
#109 | Posted by Tosser

Excellent! Another round of "my prophet's dick is bigger than your prophet's dick". Time for popcorn...or suicide.

hey tosser who cares

hey tosser who cares

You do, obviously.

Me? I don't care at all. I know what will happen. This thing has been in the works, behind the scenes, for some time now.

Tosser--it flys against our Constitution and won't be signed.

This is a step towards implementing sharia law and the other fascist laws that muslims want for the world.

Why don't the muslims have their own reformation of their religion and step into the 21st century and stop jihading against the world?

me not at all not religious sorry and your group of crazie's will get nowhere

it flys against our Constitution and won't be signed.

Any miracle is possible in The Age of The Messiah.

His first miracle was getting elected (he sez).

Second was, getting a Nobel Prize for doing shit.

This just might be his third miracle.

However, like I said, even if the US doesn't ratify this resolution, it will be in a minority. And it will be passed in most of the world, allowing us... legally... to impound anything American that we deem to be blasphemous.

This also allows Arab countries to put on oil-sanctions on certain countries in certain conditions.

You WILL comply.

One way or another.

Not lying at all!

You're a coward who can't stand to hear the truth about your leader even when it comes from your own teachings.

We know the truth about him....one day, you will know it too.

You are a sad pathetic creature who hides behind Rcade.

I can't imagine why he let's you pull the crap you do here....most everyone else sees the same thing I do.

Have you threatened Rcade like your threat in #116???

Don't answer.

I couldn't care less about your opinion.

You have proven beyond a doubt what you are.

If I were you...I'd pack light, SWEETIE!!

LOL

You're a coward who can't stand ....

Yap yap yap yap....

Have you threatened Rcade like your threat in #116???

More Christian drama from Sister Fundalina.

I couldn't care less about your opinion.

"I will not talk to Tosser again".... and then she does it again... and again. hahahahahahahahaha

I think you need more fiber in your diet.

your leader

MY leader?

Asif Ali Zardari?

Everyone knows President Zardari is a cockroach. LOL

your own teachings.

The only "teachings" that are considered the truth are those in the Koran.

I find nothing wrong in there.

He happens to be correct on his stance on-issue; just a religious biggot. Tosser, why can't you take a more pragmatic look at religion like you do other topics?

Your statement "If you are talking about that Christian game thingy, then know this that when I posted it, everyone in the blog-world was wondering if this was true or not" does not have any credibility. You stood behind it as absolutely true at least three times [that I saw: I didn't read 260 lines].

If I don't know if something is true, and it's very inflammatory, no way in hell I'd post it.

Don't you see my point? You would like credibility, but you pull a ridiculous stunt like that.

Murph, I've been trying for a week to get you to see through all your naivety on this as well as Obama's long-standing viewpoint toward gun rights. I posted much proof of the trend toward gun limitations and illegal color of law actions, not to mention pending legislations.

You stood behind it as absolutely true at least three times

I never swore that it was true.

I thought it must be true, but that is a different thing.

And it was true in the sense that it was part of a marketing campaign for a real game.

Don't you see my point?

No, I don't.

(on topic: not this latest little religion-spat happening while I was crafting #121)

and it's very inflammatory

How was I to know, poor Sister Fundalina will have her faith tested and shaken down to the roots?

Let's not parse words, tosser.

You didn't swear, but you made an affirmation of its truth. There is no excuse for that, after posting it also and "not knowing if its true"

#122
Come on. Now you're getting ridiculous. You know enough about Catholicism/Christianity that you also know the creation had to be anti-Christian. If you pass yourself off as intelligent on other issues, you cannot deny this one.

#124
Nobody's faith was shaken. People are rightly offended, as you would be, tables turned [as you said, keep muhammad out of it]

Enlighten us what was dumped tosser, so we can all judge what is a lie.

but you made an affirmation of its truth.

Well, like I said, it was true in a way. It was a marketing campaign for a game.

That was how they chose to market it.

as you said, keep muhammad out of it

And I kept Jesus out of it.

It is the Church and the people who believe in it's nonsense, who might feel offended.

If that is the case, go write to the game company who made that video.

Real Christians (who can't be found in America) who really believe in Jesus would not be offended.

This is all crocodile tears, nothing more.

so we can all judge what is a lie.

I don't think a Christian-Fundo is capable of judging a lie from a truth.

My Invisible Man in the Sky is better than yours!

Religion.

The joke that keeps on giving.

My Invisible Man in the Sky is better than yours!

Hey, I have no problem talking with the atheists and agnostics here. Zero problems in our interaction.

It's these Fundi-Dundi types who keep throwing a fit. LOL

I can't believe nobody has ever tried that before.

#50 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-11-20 10:27 AM

You're either young or have a failing memory.

JIM JONES

You're either young or have a failing memory.

JIM JONES

#132 | Posted by Washboard

Or maybe you're just a moron.

Those who aren't like al qaeda, don't understand islam.

#63 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-11-20 11:19 AM

WOW! Just WOW!

#116 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-20 10:59 PM
***"You WILL comply. One way or another."

Then you follow it by writing:

#122 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-20 11:31 PM
***"I never swore that it was true. I thought it must be true, but that is a different thing. And it was true in the sense that it was part of a marketing campaign for a real game."

So, I can only assume that your insistence that Moslems will get this "law" through the UN, and that American's will actually give two shits in a rusty bucket about it are something you "think is true", but actually just a marketing campaign

#131 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 03:17 AM
***"Hey, I have no problem talking with the atheists and agnostics here. Zero problems in our interaction. It's these Fundi-Dundi types who keep throwing a fit. LOL"

And, you somehow dodge the "Fundi-Dundi" moniker while endorsing a global law to end free speech in regards to your personal name brand of religion?

That is rich my friend, even for you...

First, the US cannot ever adopt such a mandate, as it would violate our constitution on a number of levels...

Second, trying to word such a law, for it to actually be effective, would have to endow the same rights/protections to Atheists and Agnostics whose religious beliefs are being maligned and blasphemed by "Fundi-Dundi" types, (like you), insisting that your imaginary friend in the sky actually exists in the first place...

Third, America will do what it always does when it disagrees with the UN; ignore them. And, if some country, like say Pakistan (for instance) puts up a stink, America will do what it always does; ignore them and deny them the financial aid that is holding their insignificant and impotent government's ruling elite in place. A ruling elite which has America's stamp of approval...

America has never been afraid to go it alone, yet the rest of the world has always feared America going it alone: no more handouts, no more propping up what little security and liberty most of the world enjoys. The world needs America one hell of a lot more than America needs the world...

Though, I would have to agree with you that most American Christians are neither. And, though I have always believed that Moslems are, for the most part, good people getting a bad rap for the actions of a very extreme, and agenda driven few, I would have to say either you are not representative the religion of Islam, nor Moslems as a whole. Or, I would have to be of the belief that Islam, just like Christianity, has been hi-jacked by a pious self serving majority that has no real interest in their God, only a need to repackage their hate, intolerance and insecurity as an acceptable "lifestyle choice", which is probably fairly accurate...

I don't have a problem with all the Gods floating around. I just have a problem with all the folks who have aborted the meaning and spirit of their religion, diluting it into the fragile insecure shadows that we see today.

I don't know about Islam or Jesus, but my God isn't afraid of a few jokes or misquotes. And, I really have nothing against Moslems, but what a bunch of self righteous pussies...

#135 Good post, cap'n

Or maybe you're just a moron.

#133 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-11-21 07:33 AM

Awwwww. Do you need some attention?

So, I can only assume that your insistence that Moslems will get this "law" through the UN, and that American's will actually give two shits in a rusty bucket about it are something you "think is true", but actually just a marketing campaign

No, my dear idiot.

You are mixing two different things totally. I was talking about something that happened on another thread.

America has never been afraid to go it alone

There is a fine line between "brave" and "idiot"... a line you Americans have crossed long ago. LOL

Everytime you "go it alone" you end up with egg on your face.

would have to endow the same rights/protections to Atheists and Agnostics whose religious beliefs are being maligned and blasphemed

I don't think Atheists and Agnostics will be covered by this resolution. That would be just silly since they have no recognized "religious" symbolism.

A ruling elite which has America's stamp of approval...

LOL... you still think America can do stuff?

It will dawn on you ... ok, maybe it won't.... but it will be obvious to your kids, that America is all hot air.

As for the Govt. of Pakistan, we keep changing them faster than you can blink. hahahahahahahahahaha

And if you think you can "ignore" a UN resolution... fine. Ignore it.

But if we impound your stuff and ban your publications, we will have the weight of international law behind it.

Wait for China to fall on Google like a ton of bricks. LOL

I would have to say either you are not representative the religion of Islam, nor Moslems as a whole.

I never claimed to be.

However, when I see a stupido American, I can believe he/she is representative of the whole caboodle.

I don't have a problem with all the Gods floating around.

We will make sure you don't have a problem. LOL

The Jewish people had to overcome massive racism and bigotry in the US to get to where they are today.

Now it is our turn.

Remember, I once said here "think of Pakistan as Israel on steroids".

Now you can think of Muslims as "Jews on steroids". LOL

You will learn to behave yourselves.

Eventually.

#126

You are right LR. My faith has not been shaken, it's actually strengthened.

Every time Tosser does what he does, every time Rcade ignores it and censors people when we prove what mohmmed did and was, it proves the prophecy in the Bible to be true.

And you are correct again in regards to Tosser knowing what he did.

He insults those who are Christians calling them loons most recently and since Christianity are believers of Jesus, he insults Him.as well.
Yet, nothing he says gets dumped. Nor has anything else that has been said negatively about Jesus except for Manypaths post. Yet Rcade has posted that he isn't going to allow anyone to insult someones Savior/prophet.

The last time Tossers baiting was discussed here, rcade jumped in and told us that he had told Tosser to stop. And I point blank asked if posting quotes right from their teachings would be dumped and got no response.

This time Tosser baited by putting up a thread ridiculing Catholics with insulting their practices and claimed it was Christianity as a whole, which is not true. It was pointed out that it was ficticious and the reasons why. Yet, because his intent was to insult our Savior, all he did was laugh and deny.

And not only did the thread remain, Rcade ignored it completely. But commented several times on a thread where the actions of some Christians was wrong.

For months, Christian bashing has been furious on this site.with people taking quotes from our teachings and posted them. Myself and others have defended our beliefs with quotes from our teachings as well. Yet Tosser wants to hide his by flagging and censoring what is said. And Rcade has allowed that to happen.

I never used to flag those who insultingly disagreed with my beliefs but lately I have been when they were really bad, to see if they would get dumped. None were.

And this is my issue. Why is Rcade protecting the beliefs of Muslims by not even allowing Muslims very own teachings to be posted when in a discussion about it, yet allow Christian bashers to insult our beliefs by lying about or misrepresenting actual quotes from our teachings?

Seems to me the policy here is that it's ok to claim that the Christian God/Savior is a fake, a liar, hateful, etc...but it's not ok to do the same about the Muslim God/prophet.

IMO there should be fairness and if fairness isn't allowed for all sides, then the discussions about religion shouldn't be allowed at all.

Tosser seems to think he has upset me with his arrogance and lack of intelligence but he doesn't see me laughing at him.

My issue is not about Tosser, my issue is with the unfairness and double standards regarding religions here.

And all I am asking for is an explanation as to the reasons why.

Christianity are believers of Jesus

Wrong.

Muslims believe in Jesus.

I don't know who YOU believe in, but it ain't Jesus.

For months, Christian bashing has been furious on this site.

"I want the moon! No, I WANT THE MOON! And I shall have it!"

The rules are there for everyone.

Just understand, you will no longer have special treatment.

Why is Rcade protecting the beliefs of Muslims by not even allowing Muslims very own teachings to be posted when in a discussion about it

You are welcome to quote as much as you like from the Koran.

But everything else you would like to quote is pure bullshit and not part of our "teachings".

Nobody has stopped you from quoting the Koran.

Just because YOU are too stupid to tell our holy book apart from your regular propaganda taught to you by your Church, is no fault of mine. LOL

LMBO

You"re baiting again with your lies and stupidity, Tosser.

Unfortunately, you're allowed to get away with it so I will not be responding with proof again which will result in a dump.

I'm going to just wait for an explanation from Rcade.

Tosser seems to think he has upset me

Oooooo... you're upset alright! LOL

Since last two days, you only have me and me alone on your mind.... "Toser this, Tosser that!" and you keep telling us that "your faith is strong".

It would be stronger if you switch to a high fiber diet... that much I am sure of. LOL

I am asking for is an explanation as to the reasons why.

What arrogance! "I want an explanation!"

Well... Sister.... the explanation is "welcome to the wider world. This is no longer your Church. This is the commons."

The quotes I used were directly from two ex Muslims who were taught exactly what I had quoted.

It was a small part of their reasoning on why they left your religion.

THEY used it to show how Mohammed was not a true prophet.

No propaganda...simply the truth.

But as someone once stated "you can't handle the truth", so you flag me and others.

You"re baiting again with your lies and stupidity, Tosser.

"I will not talk to you! I am done with you!"

Your words... Sister. LOL

What happened? Why can't you stop talking to me?

LOL

You are a fool!

LOL

I'm going to just wait for an explanation from Rcade.

RCADE will be along right after Jesus shows up.

I think you're in for a long wait.

I'm going to just wait for an explanation from Rcade.

#148 | Posted by Lisa

I suppose it's too much to hope that that means you are finally going to stop your endless whining.

The quotes I used were directly from two ex Muslims

Ah yes.... your Church-made propaganda movie with two "ex muslims" acting in it....

The movie without a name. LOL

What was the name again???

You are a fool!

Why? Because I have your number?

You belong in a Church. You don't belong here.

You whine too much.

" This is no longer your Church. This is the commons"

LOL

That said AFTER he said this:

"You WILL comply. One way or another."

Seek help Tosser. Something just ain't right with you.

I think it's a reasonable request to have the moderation policy explained in this instance when it's obviously gone amok.

Nonbelievers have even stood up and commented on what has been going on with you Tosser.

Lol

It wasn't a "movie"...nice lie!

It was more of a documentary.

It was taped in two parts. I have the second on right here and it's called "what do Muslims Believe" by Dr. Emir Caner and Dr. Ergun Caner.

Very enlightening.

Lisa got a dump at last heheheheheheh!

Entrance exam to military service: Three months of pork products for all three meals....

#100 | Posted by daprof

Nah...exclusion based upon if you have to drop to your knees and pray towards Mecca five times a day. I'd call that soldier unsuitable for service.

#100 | Posted by UpL8 at 2009-11-20 05:57 PM | Reply | Flag Good Idea...I defer ;)

It's sad to see so many, who profess to be from love-based beliefs, going so hard at each other.
I'll bet your deities are laughing their non-existent behinds off...however,
the reality is that the leaders of these cults, here on earth, are the ones having the last laugh. Oh, the inhumanity of it all.

My point is regarding fairness and censorship, Up.

What anyone believes or doesn't believe is up to them...and God.

But when one can spew insults and not get dumped and another uses their own teachings and truth to counterpoint and THAT gets dumped....that's an issue.

I take a stand on fairness.

I don't like Bush/Cheney. I think they are evil. But when people here said they wished the granade would have gone off by Bush and people said they hoped Chaney would die during his heart procedure...I stood up against that.

When people here who I normally disagree with are getting unjustly critixized, I stand up against it.

It's all about right and wrong.

so how long before the goddamn democrats will have a anti obama ban

OOPS.

its already in the bill being shoved up our ass.

section 66 something...

prohibition of false statements...of course who decides if its false or not.

guess...

Lisa, I agree. Censorship is wrong and fairness can't be regulated. There exists no law mandating fairness. Consider the nature of the sight on which you are posting. It is a conservative sight, and in all reality the owners of this sight have a perfect right to 'dump' any comments they want. Not meaning to be argumentative here, but part of the problem today with social interaction is that so many feel the need to defend, as opposed to simply expressing their views. A verbal denial from another party only threatens your views if you allow it.

Up?

Do you know what sight you are on?

I think you refere to Drudge REPORT as being conservative. This is Drudge RETORT....liberal.

Secondly, the rules for modification were given.

It appears they have changed for some people and I'm just trying to verify them.

Baa baa black sheep
have you any wool?

Yes sir, yes sir, 3 bags full!

One for my master
one for my dame
and one for the little boy
who lives down the lane!

Up?

Do you know what sight you are on?

I think you refere to Drudge REPORT as being conservative. This is Drudge RETORT....liberal.

Secondly, the rules for modification were given.

It appears they have changed for some people and I'm just trying to verify them.

#166 | Posted by Lisa

I'm quite aware of the original intent of this site...and as I believe censorship of speech is a 'conservative' value...I reiterate my comment about its nature.

Ok, just wanted to clarify. Your post just reminded me of so many republicans who stumbled on to this site thinking it was DR Report.

Ok, just wanted to clarify. Your post just reminded me of so many republicans who stumbled on to this site thinking it was DR Report.

#169 | Posted by Lisa

Not a problem. :0)

Murph, I've been trying for a week to get you to see through all your naivety on this as well as Obama's long-standing viewpoint toward gun rights. I posted much proof of the trend toward gun limitations and illegal color of law actions, not to mention pending legislations.

#121 | Posted by L_RContrarian

LR--

Yes Obama is anti guns.

But he won't get to sign any anti gun bills because congress won't pass them.

Color of Law actions are treated thru the justice system.

Again pending legislation--is jut that--pending.

The dems wont go there and the repubs won't allow it.

censorship of speech is a 'conservative' value...I

WHAT???

surely you jest,
being sarcastic maybe...

how about dems having LIES as a value.
should I even mention the democrat LOVEAFFIAR with a lying, adultuours, DIsbaRRED piece of shit ex president?

or how about this chronology of statements

"these reports have been reviewed for weeks, errors have been spotted and corrected, and additional layers of review by state and local officials and local governments have further improved the date quality" a white house release

WHAT ABOUT...jobs created by T.A.R.P.

lets move to LAST THURSDAY from spokeswoman Elizabeth Oxhorn

"we have been clear from the beginning that the date would not be 100% perfect, but would provide meaningful indication of recovery act job impact"

HORSESHIT..

the goddamn democrats were lying and got caught.

Greetings Infidels!!

LMBO

Greetings fellow infidel!!

I second that Emoticon.

I don't CAIR what you say.

Cannot wait until TMZ gets the pix of Obama Mecca Lecca hidie ho bowing.

censorship of speech is a 'conservative' value...I

WHAT???

surely you jest,
being sarcastic maybe..

#172 | Posted by afkabl2

No, not sarcastic at all.

Censorship, enacted by any party, in this case a moderator(s) of a website, is conservative in nature as it limits free speech.

I don't think Atheists and Agnostics will be covered by this resolution. That would be just silly since they have no recognized "religious" symbolism.

#139 | Posted by Tosser

So they can blasephize something or someone and no one else??

I mean since yoouuu think it would be silly to cover them.

Uplater--

Can you go further in your thoughts of free speech being a conservative value?

ex muslims

hahahahhaha

so you believe two ex muslims vs two actual muslims

i guarantee a million times that i'm smarter, more educated, and understand islam better then your two ex muslims.

but whatever feel how you will.

"Can you go further in your thoughts of free speech being a conservative value?"

Save your breath. That's bullshit. Freedom of speech is a liberal value, always has, and has always been opposed by conservatives and reactionary institutions like the Church.

many christians are taught that dinasour bones were put here to test our faith..

apparently you don't understand the reality that some people are taught bullshit and think it cannon.

but hypocracy is one thing thats very common amongst the ultra religious regardless of religion.

"many christians are taught that dinasour bones were put here to test our faith.."

Since I am one I will have to use the God approved Donkey Dung for that one.

Maybe the T-Rexian cults...

LOL.

I'd like to build the world a home
and furnish it with love
grow apple trees and honey bees
and snow white turtle doves

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms
and keep it company

I'd like to see the world for once
all standing hand in hand
and hear them echo through the hills
for peace throughout the land

that's the song I hear
Let the world sing today
a song of peace
that echoes on
and never goes away

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony

I'd like to build the world a home
and furnish it with love
grow apple trees and honey bees
and snow white turtle doves

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms
and keep it company

One of the BIGGEST hypocrites at this time is Obama himself.

Lies about his past religious faith and beliefs constantly.

"Since I am one I will have to use the God approved Donkey Dung for that one"

thats why no body takes you seriously..

you are delusional and if even God is conspiring to trick humanity, then everyone is.

mental deficiancy flag.

many christians are taught that dinasour bones were put here to test our faith..

apparently you don't understand the reality that some people are taught bullshit and think it cannon.

Hmmmmmmm...

no chapel

one of the biggest hypocritical things in our country is your version of christianity.

bringing christian sharia to america.

be proud of being stupid.

Dinosaurs and Fundies.

mental deficiancy flag.

#185 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-11-21 12:26 PM | Reply | Flag: SELF FLAGELLATION

Yeah Kliffy, we took a vote and you were the most taken seriouslt winner just a head of Tossed.

Get it, just a head.

LOL.

Might try Hook Ed On Puh Honics for Christmas.

mental deficiancy flag.

Sez someone who thinks he's a Church. LOL

"The Chapel".

Censorship, enacted by any party, in this case a moderator(s) of a website, is conservative in nature as it limits free speech.

#176 | Posted by UpL8 at 2009-

the comment was meant to ask you if you have been unaware of the white house push to silence any and all critics. beginning with anita dunn.

even the pres says that there is too much info going around..

I doubt a people who think the Earth is 6000 years old can ever take anything seriously. LOL

tosser

while its understandable that libs attack with comedians is about all they have...(although hicks was always funny)...

I wonder why this story has been stiffled by staterun media

believing that science is vast conspiracy against christianity is what most of us consider self flaggellation.

oh and who took a vote?
you and a bunch of other 6000 year old earth believers... please.

a real vote would prove to you that no one takes your "theory's" seriously outside of your own personal circle jerk.

once again being proud of being stupid.

Given by: Al-Gharib.

LIFE STYLE AS A MUSLIM:

Behavior: I was always irresponsible, selfish and self-centered. I rarely admitted to making any mistakes. I always had excuses to justify my actions and to easily blame any misconduct on others. When the time came where I had serious problems, I would just run away and leave the problem for others to take care of. Out my immature behavior in tough times, I caused trouble and harm to several people.

Morality: Regardless of my countless sins, I often felt proud of my self-righteousness. Whenever I compared my short-comings with those of others' around me, especially the religious ones, I always thought I was better than most or at least not worst than the majority. As a Muslim and according to Islam and tradition, I used to believe that each good work I perform has the power to cancel ten of my sins. My religiousness never bothered me or caused me to feel that I owed God anything. Instead it led me to be proud of myself and of my deeds.

Religiousness: My faith and belief in Islam looked quiet strong and firm. Islam wasn't just a religion for me, it was a part of my culture, identity, pride and being. As with most Muslims, I enjoyed discussing and to arguing about spiritual matters but was also skeptical, and didn't just believe things naively. There were times where I leaned toward fundamentalism and there were also times where I leaned toward atheism. When I settled overseas, I had a chance to interact with people from different religions and backgrounds. I often thought that I was a person who seeks to know the truth. But actually, I was just trying to prove myself as being right. Whenever, I noticed that truth wasn't on my side, I would quickly run to the other direction and hide behind an excuse. I was also driven by fear in my heart: I was afraid of Allah's curse and wrath if I tried to search beyond what Islam allows. I was also afraid to give up my pride.

So Tosser--in the Koran--how old is the Earth?

Or is it silent?

EARLY CHRISTIAN IMPACTS:

The wise nun: When I was a baby I got a dangerous sickness and my mother had to leave me in hospital for three days in the intensive care unit. The nurse who was in charge of me was a Catholic nun. When I became a boy my father told me several times: "That nun saved your life." I never understood what he said and why until years later. When I became a Christian, the story came back to my memory and I understood what my father's message was. When I was struggling between life and death in that nun's hands, she prayed for me and the Lord answered her. I owe that nun my life and I am so thankful for her gift of prayer and love.

The foolish nun: When I was a teenager, my mother got very sick and had to stay in the hospital (another one) which was under the supervision of a Catholic nun. Technically, she was a hard working nun but had what seemed to be little compassion or respect toward anyone. Everybody hated her because of her meanness. Regardless of her many good works, I believe that her lack of love toward people destroyed her true ministry and she misrepresented Christ. I still have a bad memory of her and I find it hard to forgive her still.

Muslim Christian debate: Once, a friend invited me to watch a videotape with him, it was a debate between the famous Muslim scholar Ahmed Deedat and a Christian apologetic. The topic, I still remember, was about which one is God's genuine Word: Is it the Bible or the Koran? The debate was an entertainment for me just like any of the WWC matches, as opposed to a debate to find the Truth. At the end of the debate, I noticed that none of the debaters won and I benefited nothing from any of the two.

First challenge: During my first journey overseas I lived with two foreigners, one was an Arab (outwardly religious) and the other was a Western (worldly Christian). We, the Muslims, planned to convert the Christian. We tried very hard to convince him to renounce Christ and follow Muhammad but he was 'stubborn'. During my last debate with him about Christianity, especially the deity of Jesus, we ended up our conversation something like this:

- He asked me: "Do you believe that God is all powerful and nothing is impossible for Him?"

- I replied: "Yes, of course!"

- Then He said: "Would it then be impossible for Him then to come to earth and to take a human form?"

Before answering his challenge, somebody came suddenly, so we had to change the subject. Later on, I tried to find an answer to prove him wrong but I couldn't. To avoid embarrassment, I simply ignored the matter, since it went against my Islamic belief. We never raised that topic again, but deep in my heart a first seed was sown.

honeslty afkababble

nothing you have ever said has made me upset.

annoyed by the consistent whining and crying maybe.

"outside of your own personal circle jerk."

How Muslim of you.

LOL

Do you believe that God is all powerful and nothing is impossible for Him?"

this person didn't understand the concept of God

god is NOT all powerful.

thats a christian concept... not an islamic

for example, God can make you not exist, but he can't kick you out of his domain.

All powerful is a paradox. one of many in your version of christianity.

"How Muslim of you."

my rational side takes precedent to my muslim side.

otherwise i'd be a moron fundie like you.

Fundies have some really active imaginations, I must say.

They can whip a sob-story out of their butts faster than I can blink.

God can't create another God..

another paradox.

honeslty afkababble

nothing you have ever said has made me upset.

annoyed by the consistent whining and crying maybe.

#199 | Posted by klifferd at 2009

well shit

I guess I will have to just keep trying.

lol adda boy afka... i respect that attitude.

maybe i've changed my opinion about you :)

I guess I will have to just keep trying.

To make ME upset, I'll have to figure out what you are saying in the first place.... and believe me, that ain't easy. LOL

Uplater--

Can you go further in your thoughts of free speech being a conservative value?

#178 | Posted by MURPHY

I never said free speech is a conservative value.

the comment was meant to ask you if you have been unaware of the white house push to silence any and all critics. beginning with anita dunn.

even the pres says that there is too much info going around..

#192 | Posted by afkabl2

Respectfully asking; why didn't you just ask that?

If you are referring to current administration, then yes, I am well aware of their actions in seeking to render our 1st Amendment rights useless. I'm also aware of those critics who allow them to do so.

"Morality: Regardless of my countless sins, I often felt proud of my self-righteousness. Whenever I compared my short-comings with those of others' around me, especially the religious ones, I always thought I was better than most or at least not worst than the majority. "

The issue of Islam vs. Christianity is all about works. Grace vs. Earning.... And then they still do not know if their works have been good enough.

That is why many go off the deep end of radicalism and think the only way in is to become a martyr.

"Whenever, I noticed that truth wasn't on my side, I would quickly run to the other direction and hide behind an excuse. I was also driven by fear in my heart: I was afraid of Allah's curse and wrath if I tried to search beyond what Islam allows. I was also afraid to give up my pride"

Another common thread for Muslims is this one.

"Sez someone who thinks he's a Church."

Umm, not that the meaning is close to that BUT yes, as a Christian, I am the church.

Good inadvertant call. Might be hope for you in grace yet.

Another common thread for Muslims is this one.

That's what you think, Churchy.

as a Christian, I am the church.

Flag: Delusions of being Pope

The image of Bentover wiping his arse with a page from a holy book while watching O'Reilly says it all.

THIS is what the Republican base has evolved into.

RIP Republicans. Your only hope for a majority is in an Alabama klan meeting and even that is getting iffy.

The image of Bentover wiping his arse with a page from a holy book while watching O'Reilly says it all.

THIS is what the Republican base has evolved into.

RIP Republicans. Your only hope for a majority is in an Alabama klan meeting and even that is getting iffy.

#216 | Posted by axe

I'm not Republican. I'm also not Religious (in any sense of the word).

It's funny though, swap the word Koran with the word Bible and I'll bet you wouldn't have posted at all?

Now why is that?

#179

Yes Kliff, I do.

And this is why:

They were raised Muslim and believed in it. They were presented with questions about their faith that they could not reasonably respond to which made them think honestly about what they were taught,

I asked you and the other one the exact same things, presented the exact same reasons why the two men changed their beliefs and both you and Tosser both responded with denial. In fact, Tosser tried and ended up contradicting himself several times because his answers were not ones of truth and he had to keep back pedaling.

These men I mentioned both have doctorial degrees. They are not morons.

You and tosser are taught that you must never leave your faith or you will be killed.

By all rights of following their faith, these two men took that chance and their father showed mercy to them and spares their lives. But they were not allowed to ever speak to him again.

So when the only answers that you and tosser respond with is "that's not true" or "that was changed" and offer no proof to back yourselves up and then compare it to the answers given by the two men who backed up their reasons for leaving that faith with the actual teachings....I'm believing them.

It's hard to believe how the words or events of a prophet can possibly change if he was so righteous in the first place.

I've asked that question, but you never responded to it.

The fact that anyone dares question Muslims on their beliefs or their propjet and it gets flagged, tells me there is something to hide.

Sorry Kliff, I love you but in this area, I don't believe you.

They were raised Muslim

That is what YOU claim.

Knowing the depth of your sick imagination, I am sure you believe it too. LOL

These men I mentioned both have doctorial degrees.

Doctoral degrees from a Christian "University".... they hand those out like candy. LOL

In fact, Tosser tried and ended up contradicting himself

I did not contradict myself even once. YOU of course were not capable of stomaching the answers.

and it gets flagged

Yes... funny that, no? LOL

What makes you think they are teaching in Christian Universities????

LOL

You most certainly did contradict yourself. But if you want to believe you didn't, then do so. I'm sure its the only way you handle defeat and failure....deny, deny, deny!!!

Those two men stated they were raised Muslim.

What you believe means nothing.

as a Christian, I am the church.

More accurately, people like you are the pair of cement shoes dragging the Church further into the inky abyss of obsolescence.

Doctoral degrees from a Christian "University".... they hand those out like candy.

Depends on which ones, but yeah many of them are cesspools of stupidity.

LOL

I'm not capable of stomaching answers????

LMBO

Who flaggs the postings of actual things written by your very own faith???

OMGosh....LMBO

That's funny!!!

LOL

Well thanks for the laughs Tosser!

What makes you think they are teaching in Christian Universities????

Google for it, silly girl.

actual things written by your very own faith???

YOU write those. They are not part of MY faith, sorry.

But I guess, if you are silly enough to be taken in by the president of a Christian "university", you can think any crap is part of my "teachings". LOL

We don't believe everything thrown at us, my dear. We aren't fundos.

yeah many of them are cesspools of stupidity.

They were presented with questions about their faith that they could not reasonably respond to which made them think honestly about what they were taught

If that statement is true why wouldn't they end up as atheists? Many do. You ignore their existence because they aren't swapping myths with your buddies.

In the study of religions, one of the first things anybody will tell you is to be very cautious of the words apostates and converts. Only rarely do they provide accurate information about their old religion. The act of denigrating their former beliefs (and those who follow them) is a way of justifying their decision to convert and demonstrating their loyalty to a new faith.

It's hard to believe how the words or events of a prophet can possibly change if he was so righteous in the first place.

Much as the teachings of Christ and the revelation of God through other prophets (the ones you do believe in) have both changed substantially over the years. Nothing you have said of Islam does not pertain to Christianity as well.

Which is why this days-old argument is particularly silly.

Doctoral degrees from a Christian "University".... they hand those out like candy. LOL

#220 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 02:29 PM

Almost as fast as ya'll pass out suicide vests.

The "ex Muslim" you are naming, is the president of your fraud Christian "university".

From the site:

At TMC, we are blessed with the highest caliber of faculty who also consider themselves missionaries. Our professors excel academically, having their doctoral degrees from respected secular universities... and numerous Southern Baptist seminaries. They are widely known and highly respected scholars, having published books that have sold hundreds of thousands of copies. But most importantly, they are devoted believers in Christ who have dedicated their lives helping students find the place to which God is calling them and to which He is equipping them.

Almost as fast as ya'll pass out suicide vests.

Tasteless joke, but no, they do it a lot faster. LOL

Have you ever been in one of those places?

"Earth is 6000 years old!"

You got your PHD!

Okay, it's looking more like a cesspool.

I know.

That is why Sister Lisa was so coy and not giving us the name of her idiot "ex-muslim" fakes.

Tasteless joke

The best kind...

"Earth is 6000 years old!"

You got your PHD!

Nah, they can't just pass out PhD's to any bible-thumping idiot that strolls their way. You have to demonstrate both your own exceptional stupidity and your ability to push it on other people before you get to call yourself Dr. Fundie.

You have to demonstrate both your own exceptional stupidity and your ability to push it on other people before you get to call yourself Dr. Fundie.

Is this is how they start off? LOL

"Nah, they can't just pass out PhD's to any bible-thumping idiot that strolls their way. "

and there is that matter of the big check they have to write.

More from Fundi Uni.

Here is more for your consideration.

Goddamnit tosser, that bit about "super evolution" made me shoot orange juice out of my nose. I couldn't even finish it it was so painful to read about those nuts. Nice music, too.

The earth has to be more than 6,000 years old. How else to explain that what passes for civilization in Muslim countries haven't moved forward in the last 10,000?

Tosser, where do you get this shit? Fundie science kit? Hilarious.

Tosser, where do you get this shit?

Firefox Youtube search engine. LOL

More from Fundi Uni.

www.youtube.com

#239 | Posted by Tosser

LMHO! Thanks, I needed that...

Oh, simple enough. I've never done searches for fundies beyond crazy rednecks who toss around snakes, speak in gibberish, and drink strychnine.

#245 | Posted by ZombieHunter

LMHO, again! Except for seeing the little guy...not a good place for babies around all those snakes.

One of the best precise quotes you can hear on the subject:
"Man shall not be free until the last general is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

There is no special place of any religion! None.

These people are empowered by the ignorance and superstitious clap trap religions create and they know it.

They also know millions of people have had it with them so they need legislation to guarantee their status.

#138 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:00 AM
***"You are mixing two different things totally. I was talking about something that happened on another thread"

Yeah, I know that. I was simply pointing out that with your admitted history of being sure of things, only to find that you are completely incorrect after all is said and done, could lead some to suspect that, once again, you are just spouting off about things that you are incorrectly sure of

I thought that you'd have picked up on that, sorry if it was too vague

Oh well there goes my bible, torah, quoran novelty toilet paper idea.....

#140 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:06 AM
***"LOL... you still think America can do stuff?"
Yes...

***"It will dawn on you ... ok, maybe it won't.... but it will be obvious to your kids, that America is all hot air."

It probably won't, as America has been through huge costly wars, massive financial devastation, horrific natural disasters, all while assisting the rest of the world with their own turmoil and struggles. So, I think that assuming America will be anything but a global powerhouse for the far foreseeable future is nothing more than the wishful thinking of small minds...

***"As for the Govt. of Pakistan, we keep changing them faster than you can blink. hahahahahahahahahaha"

Yes you do. And, every one of those "Governments" is provided to you courtesy of the very entities that you so despise...

Good luck with that...

#139 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:03 AM
***"There is a fine line between "brave" and "idiot"... a line you Americans have crossed long ago. LOL"

We "Americans" have crossed that line many times, for good and bad reasons. However, we have done so, historically speaking, with very little backlash...

***"Everytime you "go it alone" you end up with egg on your face."

Life's a tough uphill battle, one can't expect to go through it without getting a little "egg on your face"...

***"I don't think Atheists and Agnostics will be covered by this resolution. That would be just silly since they have no recognized "religious" symbolism."

And, and your religious symbolism would be an offensive affront to their spiritual belief of "shit happens"...

#141 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:08 AM

***"But if we impound your stuff and ban your publications, we will have the weight of international law behind it"

Well, maybe for a while, until America gets sick of it. Then we nicely tell your "leaders" to get in line, and then they will get in line, like they always do. Take their obedience in the Afghanistan conflict for example: brothers against brothers, Muslims against Muslims, fathers against sons...

BTW, thanks for that on behalf of all the American people...

***"Wait for China to fall on Google like a ton of bricks. LOL"

Yeah, you may want to think that through a bit further; China isn't going to do ANYTHING to hurt the American economy, as we are its biggest debtor...

#142 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:12 AM

***"I never claimed to be. However, when I see a stupido American, I can believe he/she is representative of the whole caboodle."

Yes, and with that kind of logic I am sure that you make your whole ethno-genetic pool very proud...

#143 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:13 AM
***"We will make sure you don't have a problem. LOL"

Since I already said I didn't have a problem with that, I guess your pomp and bravado are wasted on me???

#144 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 09:16 AM

***"The Jewish people had to overcome massive racism and bigotry in the US to get to where they are today."

The Jewish people still have to "overcome massive racism and bigotry in the US".

***"Now it is our turn."

Given the Global sentiment toward Muslims; good luck with that.

***"Remember, I once said here "think of Pakistan as Israel on steroids". Now you can think of Muslims as "Jews on steroids". LOL"

Except that "Jews" were actually persecuted, remember the "Holocaust"? Thus they had the sympathy factor going for them, (as oppose to utter disdain)...

Also, the Jews had something to offer America, with a large and extremely wealthy base here...

Right now, in this Global climate, I think that with the Islamic nation in one breath whining about their right to have everyone respect them and their religion, and in the next screeching death chants to the rest of the world's population; the very people they want the respect from, they will ultimately accomplish neither objective.

***"You will learn to behave yourselves. Eventually."

Maybe, and I can only hope and pray that the same is true for the Islamic Nation...

screeching death chants to the rest of the world's population

Who does that?

Iran?

Well, that's Iran for ya.

Take their obedience in the Afghanistan conflict for example: brothers against brothers, Muslims against Muslims, fathers against sons...

LOL... you just don't get it, do you? Pakistan always wanted Afghanistan in the gutter.

Thanks to you doing our job us, they are well and truly into the gutter without Pakistan having to lift a finger.

the very people they want the respect from, they will ultimately accomplish neither objective.

Respect is never earned. It is taken and grabbed.

We are in no need of your respect. All we need is your compliance.

And that we shall have. One way or another.

for the Islamic Nation...

There is no "Islamic Nation" just like there is no "Christian nation".

We are far too diverse for small minds like yourself to understand.

#254 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 11:56 PM
***"Who does that? Iran? Well, that's Iran for ya."

#257

Ahhhhh...so peaceful!!

#254 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 11:56 PM
***"LOL... you just don't get it, do you? Pakistan always wanted Afghanistan in the gutter. Thanks to you doing our job us, they are well and truly into the gutter without Pakistan having to lift a finger."

Yeah, "without lifting a finger".

#255 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-21 11:57 PM
***"Respect is never earned. It is taken and grabbed. We are in no need of your respect. All we need is your compliance. And that we shall have. One way or another."

Yeah, how is that working out for you so far? And, for the rest of the "Islamic Nation"???

#256 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-11-22 12:33 AM
***"There is no "Islamic Nation" just like there is no "Christian nation". We are far too diverse for small minds like yourself to understand."

Just as most Muslims generalize the West as the "Great Satan", most of the rest of the civilized world "generalize" Muslims as "mid-evil psychotic zealots" on a "crusade" or "Jihad". So, whether or not you realize that you are all, (generally speaking), judged by the more radical factions in your chosen brand of religious zealotry; you are.

And as for the "diversity" of the Muslim Nation see the above posted articles; sort of dispels any misconceptions, aye?

Like I said, I hope and pray that, at some point, the Islamic Nation and all Muslims, will learn to "behave" themselves (within the International community) as opposed to demanding that they and their beliefs be treated with kid's gloves (so as to avoid rocking the faith of their followers) while in the next sentence demanding death to those from whom they seek this very quarter.

In summation, Americans will tolerate a lot of bullshit, however when the bullshit gets absurdly deep; as in a global ban against religious criticism, Americans will tell you to go f*^k yourselves And, you will dutifully do so

BTW thanks to you and yours in advance for that...